I miss those "did I get ripped off" posts edition>Why Gold & Silver?https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo >Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitablehttps://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos >Bullion dealershttps://libertycoin.com/(US)https://www.chards.co.uk/(EU/UK)https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/(Ancient)https://www.luciteria.com/(Other rare metals)https://www.ma-shops.com/ (Numismatics)https://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/ (US)https://stoutgold.co/ (US)https://www.aydincoins.com/ (US)https://prospectorsgoldandgems.com/ (US)more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE>Numismatic searchhttps://en.numista.com/catalogue/https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/>News and graphshttps://numismag.com/en/home-en/https://silverseek.com/https://www.silverdoctors.com/https://www.mining.com/https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silverhttps://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-countryhttps://wtfhappenedin1971.com/>Comparehttps://findbullionprices.com/(US)https://eu.compare.pm/(EU)https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/(DE/EU)>Resourceshttps://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/https://www.coinflation.com/http://coinapps.com/https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK>Prospectinghttps://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM [Embed]https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/sciencehttps://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-mineralshttps://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping testhttps://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-databasePrevious Thread: >>60937255
>>60940122these threads are such shit now
>>60940133Have you considered contributing something worthwhile
>>60940133The more the price increases the more the dalit shill seethes
>>60940145not yet
why the fuck was anon in last bread posting trannies?had 97 posts>what the fuck nigger!?
>>60940122beautiful
>>60939131>bu-metallic.
>>60940133Yeah, the entire last thread was brown / eurpean seethe.Europeans get mad they can't buy silver because of their communist government and make 300 nonsensical posts about how ackshually they didn't want silver anyway and they're glad the government makes it financially non-viable for them.
>>60940166Checked and lmao at le>1,500 oz is and absurd amount, you only need 500!!!!That was pure Au
>>60940191That's very nice. Check out mine
I'm accumulated 1:120 gold to silver ratio, because I had the idea silver is undervalued and will rebound to 1:8After studying the history of bimetallic standard, I'm no longer convinced this will happen. All central banks have settled on gold as the monometallic standard, and the ratio is unlikely to fall below 1:40 so long as banks only hold gold and no silver.Now how much gold should one stack before it's too late?
>>60940226oy vey
>>60940226where did you get that demon?
>>60940208As if we didn't get enough low energy trolling ITT, just leave this bread dude.
>>60940264the kvetching when it went up for sale was wild>>60940290see picrel
>>60940258>I'm accumulated You haven't accumulated anything except piles of cow dung, you ESL nigger.
>>60940328>Grotesque faceAntisemitism on the rise.
>>60940258They have to settle on gold because silver is far too important to industry and especially the defense sector. If central banks started buying silver, it would cause a huge collapse. Silver is both a monetary metal as well as an industrial metal. Gold is pure monetary and if central banks didn’t buy, gold would flood the market.
>>60940328>Est. 2-3K£how much did you end up paying for it? I never thought a fellow pmg fren would end up winning the auction kek!
>>60940328>>60940226Glad to know that you got the amulet instead of some seething Jew who'd've just melted it down.
>>60940329You have the gall to call yourself a patriot with Swiss gold displayed front and center
>>60940335little over $4k USD at the time and totally worth it. >>60940338kikes ruin everything
>>60940333Didn't Saudi Arabia's central bank ended up adding silver to their balance 2 months ago? After Russia and Uzbekistan (iirc?) that's already 3 central bankers who openly admitted to slurp this year. How many more are doing it in secrecy for now?That's not much for the moment, but that's a pretty bullish trend imho. It was zero back 2 years ago i mean..
>>60940328kek i bet
>>60940346>totally worth it.definitely, i'd buy it at that price with zero second thought.
>>60940348House of Saud invested in SLV ETFWhich means they purchased hot air, which goes to $0 when COMEX force majeure
>>60940353I nicknamed it "Noseferatu" for the lulz
>>60940122the holy trinityin other news, my proof ladies showed up. they charged me for two of each, so i sent the extras back. going to have to trim up this local pasture raised bœuf because the butcher is a lazy fuck apparently.
>>60940367Doesn't mean shit, how do you think big players purchase large amounts of silver OTC? They ask for delivery on their LMBA & SLV positions.Saudi Arabia isn't your average retail brokie with $200 worth of SLV in their poorfolio who can't convert.
>>60940258uhh sorry sweetie but the Russian central bank is now including purchasing silver for state reserves. The first of many.
Hello frens, haven't been in /pmg/ in a bit. I bet everyone's feeling great about their stacks nowadays. Cheers
i have a kilo silver bar coming
>>60940415Indeed feeling gud, but i'll only feel great after $50/oz (before EOY).
>>60940415>a rare coaeven more based is the wholesome /pmg/ k/rossover
Imagine shilling silver since the fucking 70's and then giving up for Bitcoin at the last possible second before the big move, Kiyosaki is a fucking hack and a retard.
>>60940500anybody got that pic of Kiyosaki doing the illuminati hand sign?
>>60940500He's not a retard, he's a Judas goat.Bullion banks paid him off to convince silverbugs to let go of their acummulated stashes right before run-up. It's all going to plan.
>>60940500>>60940519found it
>>60940208Nah it just makes it easier to see what has more and better value. 1/10 iz tiny gold coin is 10, oh no I'm sorry wait 8 oz silver.Look if you're going to be a dick about it I can too. Gold is superior.Prove me wrong.Oh wait you can't.Now starts the real seething:) You see noones ever felt bad, insecure, unsure or afraid of owning some gold:)You sure seem like you need to get emotional over silver and us in Europe buying less of it. Unlike your banks.Fuck off homo
>>609402581,3,10 and then more oz:)
>>60940526>A paid actorI thought he was just a snake oil salesman.
>those 5 min candles on the silver futures chartThe struggle is real!
Just saw this. Not sure what-all it means, but I think /pmg/ will have a field day with it.
>>60940500Robert Kiyosaki is not an ideologue. I wouldn't doubt it for a second he has one of the largest private stacks of silver in the world and he would still tell you to sell silver to buy bitcoin if someone offered him a few million to say so. The idiot got himself into like a billion dollars worth of debt which is an insurmountable amount for one individual. If someone paid him any amount of money to say anything he'd do it. No one paid him a dime to shill silver. And no one could look at anything he said and prove he was lying, either.Everyone should be running from Crypto as fast as they can
Bros I’ve only been stacking modern buffalos but want to get into pre 1933. What is best? Love the look of the quarter and half eagle Indian heads. I can stack a couple quarters but only one half. Anyone else stacking these? Any advice?
>>60940615Those are the emergency corpo-bonds issued during the (((coof))) lockdowns to keep big corps afloat, correct? Iirc they only were issued with short term maturity and banks were basically forced at gunpoint by the gubment to slurp them (at least enough of it so large companies could keep signing the paychecks for the workforce and roll over their leases & debts).Thing is.. as far as i'm aware, companies aren't in a hurry to pay back the banks lol.
>>60940655>Anyone else stacking these? Any advice?First you need it to be clear in your mind : is it for numismatic purposes or for weight stacking?I'm asking because currently spot is climbing faster than numis value on most coins w/ low numis premiums.
For those looking at close to spot deals
>>60940679Mostly for weight stacking - though the appeal to me is historical value. Can’t afford a $10k pristine coin but I’ve heard these are close to spot price. >currently spot is climbing faster than numis value on most coins w/ low numis premiumsDoes this mean it’s a good time to be buying such coins or bad timing?
>>60940500This dudes a faggot but where’s the source you nigger? His most recent videos are him being super bullish on silver
>>60940457Any concern about unloading that weight?I’ve been wanting to grab a kilo or 100 oz bar to save on spot but JewPT is saying to stick to rounds and ten ounce bars cause of the reduced price LCS would pay for larger quants/having to pay the insurance to ship to a bullion to sell
>>60940705>Does this mean it’s a good time to be buying such coins or bad timing?Very good time, because the numismatic premium got "absorbed" by the spot price.For example, i own a little shop on ebay, with silver & gold coins i listed a while back and never bothered to change the pricetags on. I put them for sale at let say x2 spot back then, but now spot did a x2, it's just good deals' chasers who scroll down my oldest listings to slurp numis for spot!What i'm trying to say is numismatics is pretty slow paced, so it rarely react fast enough when spot is rising. Ofc it wont change anything if you go after x50-100 spot antique didrachms or staters. But for pre-1933 that will definitely have an impact.Do like the slurpers looting my shop : go after the oldest listings and find something near spot. Eventually the numismatic premium on those will sling back.
feeling buyer's remorse over a 1kg silver bar. am i retarded?
>5 more days until Silver changes forever.https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Ux-jeg4Go&pp=ygUMU2lsdmVyIGhlaXN0
crypto nerds will seethe
>>60940808most useless video of 2025
>>60940808I can't wait. It will be an exciting week. Markets open soon
>>60940329Love that buffalo design, I'll need one someday.
>>60940775I see eBay listings of Olympic commemorative silver sets at or below spot, nicely clear holder encased in velvet padded wood caseCrazy stuff with numismatic silver these days
>>60940258awesome shot
>>60940683>For those looking at close to spot dealsJunk is available at spot.
>>60940938nta but I only buy junk when it's below spot.
>>60940813This.>Play with chalk board>Babble on>Play with chalkboard againI understand what he's talking about because I already know, but it's not some breakaway event and it could be summarized in 5 words. Dropped it part way through.
>>60940774Sars? Please do advise. Currently at 3.75 Oz and 110 Oz silver
>>60940958>nta but I only buy junk when it's below spot.
>>60940808why?
>>60940774>>60940970Rounds probably are significantly more liquid than the kilo bars - my LCS sold me a kilo coin for 5% over spot - they just had it laying in a safe in case anyone asked and they don't even bother to display any kilos because they sell so rarely.My advice is that if you have no kilos go ahead and pick up one, don't make them a major part of your stack. Easy-ish to unload one kilo, and if it's harder to unload who cares, it's only one.You should just have an "acceptable price" point in your head of a premium and stick to that, if you're paying an extra 50 cents or something an ounce for 10,000 times the liquidity it's probably a good tradeoff, although I like the way my kilo coin looks.(australia 2017 koala)
>>60940970>Sars? Please do advise. Currently at 3.75 Oz and 110 Oz silverIf you are planning on holding for the long term, silver will likely go up several multiples from where it is now. If you feel you may need liquidity in the shorter term, generic 1oz rounds may be right for you. Look around for the best deals, you may be able to get them for less than $1.00 over spot, and they have good resale prices, and are easy to sell.https://youtu.be/QTO9LzYaowI
>>60940992>Rounds probably are significantly more liquid than the kilo barsIf you can get generic rounds for the lowest price above spot, it's absolutely a no-brainer.I only bought bars because they were the lowest premiums at the time of purchase. Other times generic rounds were competitive with bar prices and I bought the rounds. It's good to have at least a couple hundred oz in rounds in case of emergencies.
>>60940988Silver has caused too much strife. It is best we put ALL of the worlds silver on to a rocket ship and blast it into the sun. It's only fair.
>>60940992Thanks. I think I’m just gonna grab another ounce of gold rn, maybe 20 more rounds of silver.>>60941001LLM slop but thanks for trying
>>60940988TLDW; FOMC meeting will likely lower interest rates, effectively turning on money printers. Expect long bond yields to GO UP!
>>60941024Fiat is more liquid and pays 4% interest,,,lmao and you don't lose 10% every time you buy and sell,,,,rocks are for idiots
>>60941024>It's good to have a couple hundred ounces of rounds in case of emergenciesYeah, basically. Out of stacking silver if it's the cheapest it's literally number one and can't be beat, infinite liquidity - even more than junk - and without the premiums of other things. If you're just going for pure weight of silver rounds are easily the way to go. You won't have any emotional connection to them and they'll never have numismatic value probably.I don't really like buying them because they're ugly compared to junk and coins, but I buy some every time I buy anyway because of how easy they would be to resell.
>>60940208>Yeah, the entire last thread was brown / eurpean seethe.We can't get gold Eagles, gold Krugerrands or gold Sovereigns in Canada because the government charges a tax on anything that isn't pure gold or silver coins or bullion.In Europe there's a 20% tax on silver and gold bullion, but sovereign mint coins are exempt. The best value per dollar in some European countries is gold Philharmonics, (Austria) gold Britannias and other sovereign mint gold coins like Maples.
>>60940258Anyone recognize those red capped tubes? I know Eagles have green caps and Maples have yellow.
>>60940992>>60941024>>60941039Yeah, the main thing to think is from a coin shop owner's perspective. Most of their customers are are only interested in buying a coin or two at a time. They can't afford an entire kilo or just don't want it because its not very attractive versus a lot of coin designs.I think if you are going to stack for weight then 10z bars would better serve you anyways. There's a lot of good designs like the Asahi bars and they'd definitely be easier to unload at a coin shop.
>>60940333>They have to settle on gold because silver is far too important to industry and especially the defense sector.Digits, and yes, silver has been strongly discouraged for use in money and for investment in order to keep prices down for industrial and military use.
>>60941061theyre eagleshes the current king of pmg
>>60940346Make a mold from and sell copies. Make smaller versions to sell as pendants. It's too good not to share.
>>60940348>Didn't Saudi Arabia's central bank ended up adding silver to their balance 2 months ago?>>60940367>Which means they purchased hot air, which goes to $0 when COMEX force majeureEven worse, buying SLV shares, the ETF buys silver, then SHORTS THE SAME SILVER BACK ONTO THE MARKET!https://youtu.be/oGSKiprbZHcSLV was created to assist in silver price suppression.
>>60940415Been feeling pretty good about it. I did an audit of mine last night and was pleasantly surprised it was higher than I remembered.
here's my stack, only been in it for about a month. worst of times to get in but whatever, I'm expecting the dollar to do worse
>>60940392>Saudi Arabia isn't your average retail brokie with $200 worth of SLV in their poorfolio who can't convert.If they stand for delivery, excellent. China is building a Shanghai Gold Exchange regional vault in Saudi Arabia for Yuan/gold redemptions.
>>60940983Bullion Exchanges has bags of silver junk for below spot right now.
>>60940400>uhh sorry sweetie but the Russian central bank is now including purchasing silver for state reserves. The first of many.
>>60941116>t.leaf
>>60940457Hell yeah!
>>60940400>RussiaLel, remember 5 years ago when the entire palladium market shitted itself and did a 5x because of them?Man, good times.
>>60941088Wouldn't it be advantageous to buy up the silver so your enemy can't make advanced weapons? How many missiles did Iran and Israel exchange in their last conflict? Are they building more for the next war?
>>60941108>worst of times to get in but whatever, I'm expecting the dollar to do worseIt's not the worst time to get in. Peak of 2011 would have sucked. Peak of 1980 would have sucked worse. Buying silver today is like buying bitcoin at $700. You didn't catch the bottom, but you haven't seen the top.Silver will hit three digits, possibly within 12 months. The US government isn't going to stop running multi trillion dollar deficits anytime soon.
>>60941148>Wouldn't it be advantageous to buy up the silver so your enemy can't make advanced weapons?If you can trick the goyim into thinking silver is just a worthless rock, unworthy of investment, and certainly undesirable to own, then you can leave the silver in the bullion vaults.If governments start buying silver, the price will skyrocket. Silver is an example of a "Giffen good". As the price rises, demand for it increases.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffen_goodKeeping silver boring, uninteresting with painful downside volatility worked pretty well to discourage investment and keep the price low for the last 40 years. it's not working anymore.
>>60941146Palladium is a nice example of a metal with essential industrial uses that are not price sensitive. Silver also has essential industrial uses that are not price sensitive.There's 500 oz (15kg) of silver in a Tomahawk cruise missile.
>>60941157Is that a quote by Trump?
Which one of you bought this?
>>60941171Based. Buy $1000 worth of silver to add to my 120 oz stack or throw that in juniors? Undecided
>>60941174>Spherical coinIt feels haram, but then you look back and there have been plenty of square and hexagonal coins. You could make a gun and if the government declared it a coin it would be one.
>>60941186>Buy $1000 worth of silver to add to my 120 oz stack or throw that in juniors?If you buy the RIGHT juniors, you'll get a 10-20 bagger. The wrong ones and your money is gone. There is a couple Jr miner ETFs. They will level out the risk.I won't give investment advice, but my ratio is 90% physical, 10% miners.
>>60941166This 60kg figure seems clownishly high.., since silver wars tends to post quite dubious infos on silver sometimes (i think the dude's honest, but he seems a bit overwhelmed/blinded by his bullishness, rather than be impartial) i did differents maths using others sources.Ended up with the same figure : a Type DM2A1 batteries' core weights 402kg for 173 cells, and Ag-O cells are in average either 10 or 20% silver, since this info isn't open to the public, i picked a 15% middle ground, so 402x.15 = 60kgNot that it has any meaningful impact on the silver demand (worldwide we probably produce few hundreds torpedoes at best annually, Xray medical photos in Belgium alone must dwarf this figure by 10 fold annually), but still, that's pretty impressive to say the least.
>>60941171>Is that a quote by Trump?Vince Lancihttps://youtu.be/zmTIf8UU_1k
>>60941166making weapons to stockpile them for 50 years is such 1970's thinking tbqhanduril and others are trying to shift the paradigm to building scalable factories that can ramp up production in days, and if you use what you produce next week - you might as well use much better li-po batteriestorpedoes will still needs tons of silver due to how rarely they're used, but I'd expect that cruise missiles will stop using silver batteries by 2050
>>60941200Now multiply that by all the weapons systems, fro sonobuoys to patriot missiles, and unlke x-ray film, weapons systems silver only gets recycled if the weapon is demilled before use.Once they get used, the silver is atomized and irretrievably dispersed. A key factor with military use is that unlike for example solar panels, the military is not price sensitive. If silver goes up 10 fold, the weapons must still flow.
>>60941220>but I'd expect that cruise missiles will stop using silver batteries by 2050You are almost certainly correct. What you are describing is a technical problem, and humans are very good at engineering solutions to difficult technical problems.High price for silver will be the catalyst however.
>>60940988They're saying don't do it...
>>60940122Kek, this is one of the most poorly aged takes on gold I’ve seen. Boomer Jew faggot calls gold a shiny rock and a horrible investment. Says he doesn’t like gold an investment. Urges people not to by physical. Gold is now up 150% since
>>60941222checked fren
>>60941261>Gold is now up 150% sincehistorically this is very unusual. Gold usually crabs along doing nothing for 20 years straight.
>>60940655imo the indian head (all denoms) and Saint Gaudens double eagle are the primo gold coins. the older coins have a sickly eagle that looks as if its ready to give a blowjob…>no offense meant or impliedliberty gold coins look awkward a/f to meand the premium is a fuckton more!
>>60941268Silver is oligodynamic, so inherently disease resistant.
>>60941277
>>60941272>historically this is very unusual.It's nothing unusual to see in a dying fiat currency.
>>60941286>It's nothing unusual to see in a dying fiat currency.something the US has never seen before
>>60941281What's the story behind these poop flinging monkeys?
>>60941272Thing is the "stock markets are always the best investment and 200% super safe and everyone will be rich" is literally just a marketing thing that popped up fairly recently - like the last 50 years recent.Read any old book and they literally just called it "speculating" and it was a way to potentially make a lot of money, but potentially lose a lot - and you wouldn't expect to retire off it unless you made good debts.The stock market historically has its ups and downs, and gold does historically perform worse than it. That never, at any point, makes gold a bad investment because there are frequently years when gold will outperform the stock market by 10%Of the past 13 years, 13 of them (nearly half) gold outperforms the stock market.https://curvo.eu/backtest/en/compare-indexes/gold-bullion-vs-sp-500?currency=eurBasically the difference between gold and the stock market historically is that the stock market has 10% growth vs gold's 7%. You're losing out on 3% growth, but bad bear markets can last a decade and OOPS, if you held no gold now you can't retire, whereas if you held gold you could sell it off without touching your stocks - this is historically what people did, you can see the dips in gold's price where they did it after a crash.Basically it's two assets, stocks and gold, and any decent financial advisor will tell someone to put 10% of their investments into gold for insurance.
>>60941297*of the past 30 years, oopsJust look at the chart, gold performs better consistently in many situations. It's basically a savings account that pays 7% annual interest.
>>60941056>We can't get gold Eagles, gold Krugerrands or gold Sovereigns in Canada because the government charges a tax on anything that isn't pure gold or silver coins or bullion.That's fine. Buffalos are superior.
>>60941297>like the last 50 years recent.oh it's much more recent than that.something like 70% of the stock market's performance has been in the last 20 years.when both gold and stocks are breaking historical records it's what this guy said>>60941286>a dying fiat currency.People aren't getting rich, the dollar is just dying.
>>60940333>Gold is pure monetaryIt's not. Gold is an industrial metal, too.
>>60940457I got a fold for this.
>>60941290>something the US has never seen beforeIt was largely hidden by the US having the world reserve currency where everyone else always needed to keep their currencies below the USA to ensure a net trade surplus to get those needed greenbacks to engage in world trade.You didn't see much of the inflation previously, but the other countries did. Now the turn tables. Shithole countries never trusted their currency, but Americans have been living in a bubble. This will be a terrible wake up call for NPC boomers.In reality, USA has been inflating the currency supply since LBJ.
>>60941297>Thing is the "stock markets are always the best investment and 200% super safe and everyone will be rich" is literally just a marketing thing that popped up fairly recently - like the last 50 years recent.This is correct. The Federal Reserve has been protecting and pumping the markets since "Black Monday" in 1987 when Greenspan was the chairman.Greenspan did a terrific bait and switch, being a gold advocate in the 60s, to becoming the evil central banker himself in the 1980s. Shows just how deep his convictions really were.
>>60941316>This will be a terrible wake up call for NPC boomers.We're still in that happy stage where we think a million dollars is as valuable as it was when we were kids, and now we're all millionaires. Honestly I expect boomer to be dead or senile before this situation becomes dire. A significant chunk of them are already cashed out or moved on.
>>60941316This guy gets it. You know, I panic and feel unprepared with a 14 month old and another on the way next year, but the fact that 90+% of people have no idea about the Jews or anything about monetary policy, the federal reserve, and how fucked we really are… the fact that they don’t even realize the government isn’t going to help you… in fact they want you exterminated if you’re white. Need to remind myself I’m in better shape than most. Any chance Powell doesn’t cut rates this week? I could see it, just debating if I hold off on slurping another ounce of gold or some more silver.
>>60941326Speaking of the (((stock market))), I have a strong feeling my retirement accounts won’t exist in 30 years and was considering converting to self-directed IRAs (Roth and non roth). Any other anons do this?
>>60941297>but bad bear markets can last a decade and OOPSMuch worse. If you bought at the peak in 1929, the market took until 1954 to get back to the NOMINAL high. Inflation adjusted, it didn't get back to where it was until the 1980s.THAT WAS JUST TO BREAK EVEN! The longest market correction was 90 years, in the UK if memory serves.The Nekkei market crashed in 1989, returned to it's nominal high in 2024, (35 years) but is still under water inflation adjusted.You can do well in the market after a crash if you have the life expectancy of a vampire.
>>60941290Nobody has ever seen me die either, but it is absolutely certain to happen.
>>60941306>That's fine. Buffalos are superIt's sad seeing Sovereigns and Krugerrands going to the refiner. They're 22kt so are more durable for actual carry.
>>60941337I've chatted with several anons on here who figured out the game was rigged a long time ago and cashed out their 401ks to buy gold and silver
>>60941311>Gold is an industrial metalFor nice uses, yes.
>>60941354yes, but having never seen it, it's not something people will quickly recognize when it starts to happen. Americans have enormous confidence in the dollar even when it's very obviously dying.
>>60941333>the fact that 90+% of people have no idea about the Jews or anything about monetary policy, the federal reserve, and how fucked we really areLiterally lambs to the slaughter.I vote Amish.
>>60941310Yeah, I don't know the exact time frame, I just read old books and connect the dots on what I see today - how many people have been investing their whole lives and still aren't rich.>>60941297Adding onto this post to point something fun out, here are all of the years since 1993 where gold has outperformed the stock market by more than 10%>2002 gold outperforms the stock market 4% to 35%>2005 gold outperforms the stock market 35% to 21%>2007 gold outperforms the stock market 18% to -6%>2008 9% to -33%>2010 38% to 24%>2011 15% to 5%>No overperformance to such an extent since thenOut of the 13 years of the past 30 where gold outperformed the stock market 6 years have been greater than a 10% performance difference - 2008 saw a 42% difference. Notice something here? All of the years where gold outperformed were clumped together and basically during that recession gold completely BTFO the stock market, the entire difference between gold and the S&P growth rate was eliminated. The stock market started declining in 2000, reached parity with gold in 2009, and started beating it again in 2012. It was effectively a 12 year slump in the market, and during that entire time period you were better off investing in gold. The stock market only stayed ahead during said period if you got in earlier.This was all spurred pretty much by one single year - 2002 - that changed gold into the dominant investment medium for a decade and made people lose faith in the stock market.When the stock market goes down it happens for literally 10-12 years at a time, the stock market actually HASN'T been a better form of investment if you started investing at Y2k, gold was the better investment until 2012, when the stock market started doing better, and now gold has outperformed the stock market in 2024 and 2025. We could easily be entering another 10 year cycle, it's entirely fictional that the stock market just always performs better, a basic chart of growth shows the lie.
>>60941337>I have a strong feeling my retirement accounts won’t exist in 30 years and was considering converting to self-directed IRAs (Roth and non roth). Any other anons do this?My understanding is you can put physical gold and silver in your IRA, just avoid the scam companies that advertise in conservative circles.>t.not American, but have seen discussions on IRA gold storage, you cannot do self custody however, so there is some counterparty risk.
>>60941371>how many people have been investing their whole lives and still aren't rich.Yep, I recall when mutual funds got popular in the 90's and that was a decent run for a little while. But the vast majority of growth has been since 2008 to my recollection. Everyone putting their retirement into stocks is a very new thing. Very recent. Back in the day most people had nothing to invest, and their entire retirement was social security.
>>60941349OK, I didn't realize it was that bad. I always heard that a crash can last a decade, but 30 years is insane.
>>60941382Silver is still down 70% from 1980, gold is flat,,,,,lmao pmg baggies bought a lifetime of suffering and poverty
>>60941397>Silver is still down 70% from 1980That makes it thee absolutely best buy>gold is flatNope. You're just a lying retard
>>60941174is this being sold and marketed to niggers?>do not want…stupd coin, silver withstanding
>this triggers the anti-silver dalitsI got rich by buying silver
>>60941414How you like them Roos? ASEs have a steep premium and I only buy sovereign minted metals. Was thinking about some silver Lunar Dragons but the Roos are even cheaper. And I don't like Maples because Fuck Canada and all Canadian People.
>>60941382People are used to V bounces, but that was because the Federal Reserve was wind beneath their wings. All it did was pump the bubble even bigger.The coming correction will be worse than 1929.
>>60941428>I don't like Maples because Fuck Canada and all Canadian People.Agree 100%
>>60941414
>>60941414Very fine Asahi 10 ounces. That's my next buy once I get moved in to my new house.
>>60941441I like both that bar and those rounds
>>60941380>Everyone putting their retirement into stocks is a very new thing.Bad enough to put all your retirement into the stock market. Some boomers have put all their retirement money into ONE stock (Tesla).
>>60941441Skeleman! Skeleman! Does whatever Skeleman does!
>>60941444Nice tripsWould recommend Asahi
>>60941456Sometimes I do wish they had an inverse style. Matte lettering with shiny surfaces. Its for that reason I'm not a big fan of their rounds. Maybe I like their 10 ounces because they have a good design compared to so many other 10 ounce bars.
>>60941453spooky
>>60941444I don't know why people like asahobso much. I got some asahi rounds but I prefer sunshine mint and silver town more. Visually speaking.
>>60941458I just wish they made a 5toz bar or round>>60941462spook
>>60940791>feeling buyer's remorse over a 1kg silver bar. am i retarded?Yes. Nothing wrong with a kilo. Next time buy the lowest price generic rounds. Then you'll have both. A kilo is only 32 rounds.
>>60941466I've had anons say Asahi is too sterile for their liking. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I appreciate the efficiency of Asahi, but Sunshine and Silver Towne are also nice looking.
Anons, the markets are open and silver climbing again.
>>60941092>theyre eagles>hes the current king of pmg
>>60941471>SterileYeah, it's going for some "futuristic" look or something, I like to have something nice to look at. I like classical looks, I have a wide variety of designs I like, but asahis remind me of just some corporate logo.I get how weebs like it, but real men like silver with boobs on it.
>>60941472Buying the rumor. Two days left.
>>60941356Idk how severe the tax penalty is, I’d imagine it counts towards your income for the year when filing and we’re high up there so I don’t wanna eat shit that hard. I’d imagine theres additional penalties. I was drowning in debt through my 20s and early 30s so I’m way behind. Only 50k rollover ira and 23k roth. Pretty much whole folio rn Is gold silver miners and commodities
>>60941477fugggg, they're stacked
Silver is staying above $42 in overnight trading. If the previous pattern holds true, just before NY open, there will be an attempt to slam the price in order to set a downward momentum to carry over into the NY open.They tried it Thursday and Friday and it didn't work.
>>60941471
Feels gross bros. Gonna grab the ounce of gold but better price for silver elsewhere? Get 2% back
>>60941477I count 52 boxes, 26,000 oz total. Dragon tier.
>>60941502I don't know if this is the same guy.
>>60941485I'm not telling what to do but they are going to make your retirement worthless through inflation or they will steal it. The anons I talked to just bit the bullet and paid the tax penalty when they cashed out. Yeah, it sucks but it's better than losing everything was there a reasoning. One guy bought like 50 gold eagles.
>>60941510Whole reason I asked, I fully believe it. Just gotta read more about how hard they hit ya
>>60941508both pics were from a federal money laundering case a few years back. Someone posted them here larping. The actual owners are in prison.
>>60941510>>60941517To add, from my understanding converting to a self directed Roth IRA I could just stack some physical gold and it’s all tax free gains. I’ll probably be dead or in the Goylag in less than ten years the way things are going
>>60941520Kek. I own exactly ONE Eagle (with milk spots).
>>60941522I have one I melted down to make art. I think I paid $9 for it back in the day. I'm not a huge fan of iggles. I don't think they're worth the premium and I don't like them as collectables.
>>60941521IIRC they cant be held by you and have to be placed in their custody which defeats the whole purpose. Alot of influencers are scamming people by offering the IRA gold schemes. Make sure you do your research.
>>60941485I'd do it without a second thought in this market, partial withdrawal of maybe half of it if your plan allows it - you'll still get hit with penalties and taxes, but not as much taxes as a full withdrawal - and I'd buy physical PM's with it.I frankly wouldn't trust said accounts to be safe if other ones failed no matter what you're invested in - even if you're in miners and up 20,000% what stops them from saying>We're bankrupt, we just sold it off to cover our debtsBut it's really up to you, and also you'll face like a 10% penalty of whatever you withdraw before taxes probably, or more. You're talking an upfront 20-30% loss here just to hold onto physical metals, so judge for yourself if it's worth it or if it's better to use other assets / just work more hours and slowly stack instead.
Stop buying American gold and silver, ((they)) fucking control (In 2 ways) the price of your gold and silver.
>>60941472>Saturday night I wasn't thinking clearly and bought some ugly Silver Jewelry on Ebay for slightly above spot>Was regretting it earlier, but now that it's worth more than what I paid for it I no longer careI love this price movement.
How high does gold and silver need to get before this guy switches gears and tells boomers to invest in PMs.
>>60941547It may be ok to take some profits at some point if you have bills etc. But I'm not selling a damn thing until I see terrible shit happen in the bond market. Spiking interest rates, collapsing DXY etc.,
>>60941552That's what it feels like to buy gold every time.
>>60941467seeing in the dark is fun
>>60941553He's a BlackRock/State Street/Vanguard meat puppet. He never will.
>>60941527>I don't think they're worth the premium and I don't like them as collectables.Eagles have some tax advantages for Americans. They have a $10 premium here in Canada, and in my opinion, they're classically attractive, but dated. The Britannias are one of the most modern sovereign mint coins with all the new bells and whistles, and very attractive in my opinion. Libertads are another classically beautiful, but dated coin in my opinion. I have a thing for boobs and ladies on the obverse of coins.
>>60941553>How high does gold and silver need to get before this guy switches gears and tells boomers to invest in PMs.When he does, it's time to sell.
>>60941554>It may be ok to take some profits at some point if you have bills etc.Concur, but my main game plan is to wait for the gold silver ratio to close up and convert SOME of our silver to gold, or alternately real estate.If silver follows historical patterns, it WILL overshoot its natural price level at the peak and it's important to have an exit strategy to harvest some of those gains, and not just let them go out with the tide.
>>60941565It's nice to know who farted.
>>60941587>the fart changing colors as it cools offkek thats neat
The Central Bank of Thailand freezes 3 Million Bank Accounts and begins setting Daily Limits. Reportedly this is being done to fight an epidemic of scammers.
>>60941568I love 'tads but they're like 50/oz lmfao. What a joke. Their low mintages don't make them numismatic and yet they demand a numismatic premium.
>>60941568>I have a thing for boobs and ladies on the obverse of coins.Enjoy!
>>60941629Ohhh! Noice!
Should I pay $306 after shipping for $10 of Walkers? Walkers are my jam but I don't really like paying over spot after shipping.
10 years of pmg and no one has made it,,,,,lmao these losers convinced theyselves rocks were magic and they would cure poverty and terminal incelism
>>60941631Thanks!I enjoy the fairer sex too.
>>60941566>BlackRock/State Street/Vanguard They helped me get rich, lmao stacktards love to sabotage theyselves
>>60941534>>60941539Not having to have it in my custody and worry about being robbed no matter how unlikely it is sounds nice. I don’t think not being able to get it is something I’d have to worry about, or if it were the case it probably would be the least of my worries. Buying land was the other thought. still don’t have a primary residence and we move around a lot, already spooked about driving my safe across the country in 2 months. I’d obviously do my research and I heard you gotta be careful. Not scrounging for money, will prob wait til early next year to decide. Been slowly converting our HYSA to PMs, gonna grab another ounce of gold tonight. Figured things are so bad and the agendas accelerating I feel the need to convert fiat even though we’re saving for a down payment for a house just a year out. Feels much safer then convert the gold when we buy (hopefully not have to sell all). Honestly should really be much more aggressive. I have pm and crypto split to hedge my bet. I just am certain sitting in dollars is a death sentence
>>60941520>>60941510>The anons I talked to just bit the bullet and paid the tax penalty when they cashed out>hurrdurr the gooberment is gonna steal my money so i will just give them 50% of my savings plus pay huge taxes in the future on whats left and ensure i will always be a broke wagieLmao, nothing dumber or broker than a stacktard
>>60941568>Eagles have some tax advantages for AmericansPill me. Does it cancel out not only the higher premium but also the .92 or whatever vs .999 differential?
Watching pmg baggies convince each other to make stupid financial decisions and lose money is great entertainment
My dad has an MBA in fiancé from one of the best business schools in the world and he told me gold is a speculative asset kek.
>>60941649They did not
>>60941659The tax advantage is if you sell it for a profit you get taxed at your marginal federal tax rate even if your gains are only inflation
>>60941642>Spot for a Walker is $15.30 according to Coinflation>$306 for 20 Walkers puts each coin almost exactly at spotUnless the coins are all slicks, I see no reason not to buy them.
>>60941669Word salad
>>60940683Lmao remember five years ago y'all were convinced 40% premiums were smart because that's what it cost to cut the rocks up ?
>>60941715Hey remember when you still don't own a car? Because your actually poor?
>>60941671Rule of thumb is do the opposite of stacktards,,that's how I got rich
>>60941725>how I got richSo what is your portfolio value? What do you have in terms of investments?This is an easy question to answer by the way.
Stacktards, who don't own their own time, cope by buying rocks because peter Schiff said to
iqbal delete got rich by eating out of trash cans and not buying a car his rise to wealth is legendary on 4chan. He is the wealthiest indian we have. Sometimes he has even left a dollar on a table as a tip but he probably went back to get it after taking a picture because you don't get rich in india by leaving dollars on tables. He owns multiple properties constructed of cardboard, plywood, and some of tin. There are no wealthier indians than he is. He's had a three cent coin in his pocket for three years and has never once had to dip into this savings account to help a friend or family member. He will likely never reproduce, but his use of mcdonalds wifi guarantees he will leave his tika masala tinged wisdom all around the world for the poor suckers who need his advice. When he inevitably dies of leprosy he will become a saint for all the help he gave to poor ignorant stacktards who bought into the silver scam. He's the hero we don't deserve. The schizophrenic hate-bot that gets a new ulcer every time a newfag buys silver. Someday he will inevitably be lit on fire in a favela gutter, but his words will live on punctuated with far too many commas and an inexplicable need to show off other people's breakfasts
>>60941659>Pill me.A good reference is here:>https://atlantagoldandcoin.com/do-i-have-to-report-my-gold-and-silver-coin-sales-to-irs/tl;dr, Any sold amount of silver or gold Eagles does not need to be reported, either on Schedule D or form 1099-B. This implies there is no CGT at all on Eagles.All other generic silver sales are exempt up to $1k or one kilo (whichever comes first).US constitutional is exempt up to $1k *face* value.But I am not a tax expert. This is just my read.
Instead of buying more silver I bought my second Rooster this month.
>>60941776If you have a use for one it seems like it would be a good investment.
>>60941789I feel like he may have been talking about the frogcoin rather than the poultry
>>60941761Thanks anon, now I’m seething at the IRS. I’m literally not reporting it. Fuck them
>>60941801>>60941789I got both at spot. It's so easy and addictive compared to buying 1oz with premiums.
>>60941801>>60941808Lol yeah I was thinking anon had a chicken coop and wanted more.
>>60941277>>60941281LOL.Is this Law's Mississippi bubble of 1720?
There are more people joining silver bandwagon in my country (Indonesia), I hope it catches on even more. Cringe text though.
>>60941826I want some Engrish silver, holy moly.
nvm treaty of Utrecht
>>60941802Lmao, you will never make a profit so don't sweat it baggie
>>60941826>ESL text>metric denominationskys my man
>>60941862you gonna mention how it's AI too?
>>60941918Everyone shilling silver here is a coin merchant or paid shill
>>60941857Why do you care what other people do with their money? What do you suggest instead of fiat? Is there nothing more productive you could be doing with your time to improve yourself? I hope your investments bring you immense wealth btw
>>60941973I want yall to be rich like me instead of bitter, broke losers praying for the end of the world because you read on an incel blog that you could buy a virgin for a Roosevelt dime. I posted all these trades in real time in the last 20 months, compounding gain after gain so of course the coin merchant shills here attack meWhy do you care what other people for with their money or time? Why are you asking advice from broke losers and foin merchants etc etc
>>60941148Welcome to the New World Order where stupid ideas that undermine the national security of nations are more important than the nations themselves. https://www.silverwars.com/strategic-minerals-and-the-new-world-order-the-hidden-war-for-silver/
>>60942022Welcome to /pmgbaggie/ where silly propaganda from coin merchants that undermines the wealth of formerly healthy young men is instantly believed and acted on .
>>60942009I’m married with a 14 month old and another on the way. I’m not praying for the end of the world, it’s accepting reality. If you ever read and did deep research into our history you’d understand how sick and fucking twisted things are, and what is planned and has been an agenda for well over a century. Last (you) you’ll get from me, you brainwashed fucking NPC. Go watch more television.
>>60942009I also have stocks and crypto too, 50+% of my Roth is in gold/silver miners and juniors. What’s wrong with both?
>>60942031Found the shill. Hows Rothschild's ass taste?
>>60942060trans women aren't allowed to do anything
>>60941311Opulence is not useless. Jewelry gets recycled back to the surplus supply -- it is not consumed uneconomically -- it is always required unless hot into space or blown up which is tiny because...The amount of gold needed to pass along its only useful property -- anti corrosion -- is less than the weight of a piece of gold foil which can blow away in the wind. A single atom thick layer is all that is required. This means all the gold produced in human history -- and accelerated recently with the high price of gold is adding to the surpluses we already. If all the gold production shut off tomorrow, and we only used what we had -- we would never run out. Thats how industrially useless gold is and also abundant. Above ground -- in ready to use form is all that matters to industry who consume. Silver has beecome consumed and not recycled since the advent of photography. The supply is fucked. Take advantage before the manipulation is over. Enemies of the US have figured it out.
>>60942060You're allowed to KYS.
>>60942060the trannie was always my favorite low-effort /pmg/ troll. just post some metals next to estrogen vials and watch everyone lose their fucking minds.
>>60942060Yes. Silver gives anyone that holds the physical form, leverage. Also, silver would make the best anti-microbial dildo or chastity that would never have to be cleaned -- technically. I predict Jews will figure this out and make them now that I gave them this horrible idea. Enjoy!
>>60942036Lmao, why are you so angry? The anger from you npcs that someone is trying to help you,,,,,. But go ahead ask the coin merchants for investment advice .....not my problem I'm rich just trying to pay it forward and while pmg baggies won't listen your hate is fueling massive gains for me
>>60942073>just post some metals next to estrogen vials and watch everyone lose their fucking minds.it's so easy
Don't forget baggies there's enough already mined silver for 100 years of industrial use
so uh why is the janny deleting posts
>>60942101someone accidentally posted something he didn't mean to reveal about himself is all.
test
>>60941629What country? Looks like a french colony?
>>60941646We are hardwired to find the female form beautiful. Otherwise we would never put up with their bullshit.
>>60941534>Alot of influencers are scamming people by offering the IRA gold schemes.Most of the people here ITT will be immune from one of the worst types of scams, the "numismatic premium coin" scam.These scammers haunt conservative websites and YT celebrities like Judge Napolitano. They talk about using your IRA to hold physical precious metals. So far, so good. You call them and talk to a boiler room operater. They will ask you a series of questions like: >Do you have at least $25,000 to invest.If you meet the criteria for a juicy mark, they hand you off to a professional "closer" who locks you in. These companies pay otherwise respectable mints to create custom gold medallions exclusive to the scammer.These medallions are often in oddball weights. They aren't sold on the open marketplace, so you cannot look them up and find a market price. The closer truthfully assures you these are limited run coins, which he then lies about saying that they have serious collector value because of their limited edition.The mark pays 25%-50% ABOVE spot, the scammers make bank, and another conservative boomer gets fleeced. There's an example of this kind of company advertised at the beginning of this video.https://youtu.be/uxaBNRuydgwYour IRA should contain US gold or silver Eagles, Buffaloes, or some other approved sovereign mint, legal tender coin with a low premium over spot. Maximum weight, minimum overhead. You will be paying for storage because they don't own self custody, so you need to select a vaulting company likely to not rip you off. (which has happened)https://www.justice.gov/usao-de/pr/precious-metals-depository-owner-sentenced-65-years-federal-prison-76-million-fraud
>>60942184Just buy an ETF or better yet no pm. Lmao all the tards pushing here like you have to buy buy buy. I got rich by not buying silver or gold, get a better investment and don't forget to go outside rather than reading pmg baggies 24/7 because they are written by shills and scam victims there's more to life than money once you get rich
>60942100There's been a silver production defict for the last several years. Silver is a Giffen good. As soon as people in the west start buying investment silver to protect themselves from inflation, it's game over for the price suppression. We're talking about three digit silver.
>60942209
>>60942050>Found the shill. Hows Rothschild's ass taste?Jeets like poop, but the worst punishment of all is to be forced to live among their own kind.
People on here crying about 2% inflation will go out and pay a 20% premium on a round or a 439% premiums on goldcucks note and brag about it
>>60942068>If all the gold production shut off tomorrow, and we only used what we had -- we would never run out. Thats how industrially useless gold is and also abundant.True. Silver is the true industrial workhorse, and it's used everywhere around you from the solder in your smartphone to the bearings in then engines of the commercial jet you fly to vacation on.Commercial grade RF connectors are silver plated for performance. Microwave communication hardware (cell towers) has thick silver plating inside.Swagelok connectors are silver plated to prevent galling. Medical dressings are treated with silver to be inherently anti-microbial.Many aircraft electrical wires are copper with a silver plating.>The electronics and electrical sector represents silver's largest industrial application, consuming 445.1 million ounces in 2023—a remarkable 20% year-over-year increase(((They))) don't want you stacking silver because they don't want a competitor to gold, which they DO control. Silver has enormous intrinsic, practical value.
>60942254
>>60941364True. You are correct. It is going to take the majority of Americans totally by surprise. Recent immigrants will be like "This again?"
>>60942299>True. You are correct. It is going to take the majority of Americans totally by surprise. Recent immigrants will be like "This again?"Look at WHO is buying gold and silver at Costco.
Silver is only used in industry because there's a huge glut,,,,lmao everyone who is smart knows that. Theres already substitutes but then how would big Silver get rid of all that garbage
Lmao
>60942308The only things there is a huge, unfortunate glut of on this planet are subcontinentals.
>>60940122Is now a bad time to start investing silver? Looks to me like we're at the peak, and in 5 years it'll drop again.Even if not at the peak, it surely has only a few more years of rise?
>>60941746KEKTOP!
central bankers tongue my anus
>>60942348The market has inflated 3x since said "peak" of last time, and the currency has inflated 2x.It's not even the same "peak", 2011's peak was caused by a literally 10 year bull market that gold had where it outperformed the stock market because the economy was so shit.see here (the link in this post) >>60941297 for more information on that.Basically we haven't even entered in the "bad stock market performance" growth for silver or gold, and the last time we did enter that period it triggered a 10 year bull market.It could have literally 10 more years of rise because the price depends on what all other assets and fiat are doing at the time.
>>60942348>Is now a bad time to start investing silver? Looks to me like we're at the peak, and in 5 years it'll drop again.Your question contains an implicit premise that the dollar is stable.Do you expect that the US government will elimiate their deficit, run a budget surplus and pay off their national debt?If not, the only alternative is printing. Over time the number of dollars approaches infinity, the value of dollars approaches zero. The value of the US Federal Reserve Note (what you might call a dollar) has dropped more than 10% so far THIS YEAR.
>>60941571What do you mean by "sell"? Exchange for dollars? That's like jumping from the lifeboat back into the sinking ship.
>>60942387>the currency has inflated 2x
>>60942414I'm riffing off Cramer always being wrong. My exit strategy involves swapping silver for gold when the ratio tightens, and/or buying productive land.
>>60942348What you're seeing is not strictly a change in the value of silver, but primarily a debasement of your currency.You can observe this by comparing the value of your currency against other commodities, not applicable to all of course, but you'll notice an overall trend with enough information.I don't think it's ever a bad time to buy at least a hedge amount of gold or silver in such an inflationary environment.Even if the supply of silver doubled tomorrow, the price would inevitably catch up due to the steady increase in currency supply alone.So potential downside is quite limited in my opinion, and ultimately the dollar value of the asset is irrelevantOnly silver surfers may ride the Kali Yuga
>>60942414Lmao, pmg baggies were told to never sell, wage,,,,buy rocks,,,,die,,,,,kektop!
>>60942387I get the logic that dollars are worth less so the $-Ag ratio must climb higher, but what caused the 1980's Ag price to get close to the 2008 bubble?
>>60941662He's not exactly wrong. What he doesn't realize is that the entire world economy is speculative and that PMs are the LEAST speculative asset available. Once upon a time, long ago, investing your money in stocks and bonds was putting capital into a pool to be used for increasing the production of useful goods and services. This was not speculative and made everyone a little wealthier in increments. But over time, under the corrupting influence of banks and government, the market became a casino. Instead of accumulating capital and reaping a modest dividend from increased productivity, America began playing a gigantic game of "greater fools" to the profit of the insiders. Great will be the lamenting when the bubble pops.
>>60942448Lmao stackturds don't even look at inflation adjusted despite crying about inflation nonstop
>>60942448>>>>>Are you new here or something? The hunt brother's run.And it's not really "close", it's significantly more. That's 200 dollars in today's currency.
>>60942464>Are you new here or something?Yes.
>>60942464>>60942448The silver spike in 1980 was due to the Hunt brothers recognizing that silver was at an artificially low price, so they started buying silver which resulted in a short squeeze which started to drive the price up.The (((market administrators))) stepped in, STOPPED allowing silver purchases, then they raised margin requirements significantly, crushing the Hunt brothers.Something similar happened during the Gamestop shortsqueeze, the Robinhood app stopped allowing purchases of GME, only sales, to protect Citadel from a billion dollar shortsqueeze.The 1980 spike wasn't a normal market clearing price, it was a temporary anomaly from a market dysfunction, just like when a Chinese nickel producer sold a massive amount of nickel short, and was caught in a squeeze that caused the price of nickel to shoot up to $100,000 per ton.
>>60941096great idea! I'll come up with something. :D
>>60941746Top zozzle
>>60942488Disgusting how our rulers act. Hope they get lynched eventually.
>>60942068Money is the single most useful economic good the world has ever known. It is half of nearly every trade transaction on the planet. And gold makes the best money. That makes gold the most useful substance on earth. Only by hook and crook was it diverted from its natural purpose. I stack plenty of silver and highly recommend it. But to try and paint gold as somehow useless is to display a fundamental misunderstanding of economics.
>>60942305I don't know. Do you have a fact to share?
>>60942409An inflationary collapse has been baked into the pie since 1913. There is no turning back now. We seem to have turned the corner on the hockey stick.
>>60942428Onward!
Inflation is the worst possible outcome for the stacktard
>>60942474Welcome! Ignore the psycho troll. Many people here will share useful information with you.
>>60942348Anyways, if you were wondering if this was the top?No, central banks still have to accumulate and they'll be accumulating as much as they can. The COMEX is also doing so. Trust in the dollar and US government is lost.
>>60942108what was isdid anyone get a screencap
>>60941746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USv57Pi4IcAsnagged
>>60941337>>60941379Your “retirement account” has been fungibilized and pooled into a massive crossboarder collateral lending system. People don’t realize that their so called nest eggs are already gone, hypothecated away by some euro banker to bail out some nigger refuge in the other side of the world. It’s all in BIS documents. Those fucking Jews love writing about their “innovations” ie crimes against humanity.
>>60942848
Why don't smart people buy retard rocks?
>>60942849Another example of stacktards becoming dumber and dumber the more they read incel blogs
>>60941613Capital controls are not going to accelerate in number and scale as the system’s end of life approaches. Does it matter if the lines keep going up if it’s illegal to access the funds? First worlders are going to very blindsided by this in particular.
Another all time high
>>60941746KekOne for the record books
>>60942448>>60942488> The silver spike in 1980 was due to the Hunt brothers recognizing that silver was at an artificially low priceThe hunt brothers only was part of the story but not the underlying current. Look at gold in the same time period, it showed the exact same spike following the closing of the gold window in 1971, peaking in 1980. Hunt brothers didnt try to squeeze gold so why would it behave in the same exponential fashion in the same time period? They were opportunists that believed the debt-based monetary system was being rejected and would fail, which it was. Few people realize how close the FED dollar system was to death in 1980. Hunt brothers drew attention to things that they weren’t suppose to, and were summarily executed and used as a scope goat. It was not market distinction, it was monetary disintegration, and it is happening again. But this time the FED cannot save its system by jacking rates to 20%.
> I'm tall and very good looking and every country i go to I'm stalked by females maybe they can sense my wealth. There being a strong correlation between height and good looks and wealth. I would encourage yall to become rich like me by not buying garbage rocks if you are short and ugly> I was talking to a youtuber one time in a foreign country about the many scam attempts i get by looking like i have money, tall white good looking no jewelry or fancy clothes. And he didn't believe me because he had no one scamming him being short and greasy looking 25 yearold. While we were talking several scammers came over and targeted me the guy was shocked. You are just inexperienced so you never had a female pursue you . Doesn't mean you can't get rich but you have to do more than getting scammed on silver
>>60942989>debt-based monetary system was being rejected and would fail, which it was.Lmao, nothing broker or dumber than a stacktard, 45 years later everyone around the world still wants $, goldtards broke even, silvertards down 70%
>>60943058You are better off letting my posts slide by street shiter. I’ve spent years of my life obsessing over monetary history, entice me. Which mechanic would you like to know about next.
>>60943100Kektop, your imaginary degree and schizo rantings aren't impressive you write paragraphs of bs, to scare incels into buying your garbage rocks ,,,,,,,the returns on stocks are 78 times higher
Choosing your own name to be IQELITE while having sub-normal analytical, introspective, and interactive intelligence is actually very fitting. The reason dalit spends his time here is that he has a form of Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD). The sufferer seeks out arguments as it is the only way they are able to get the attention of others, as they are often chronically lonely. ODD is primarily a childhood disorder, where a child is neglected by their parents and is unable to make friends. This dalit is an adult that has formed a parasocial relationship with /pmg/. He spends all his time here because this is all he has, and he bizarely sees posters as his friends. We all remember the compulsive liars at school that would say anything for attention.
>>60943223Stock market hasn’t represented any real wealth growth since at least 2008. It’s not returns, it’s monetary debasement.
>>60943265>monetary debasementWe had 500% inflation since 2008? Quit saying dumb shit moron I'm not a stacktard
>>60943355>I'm not a stacktardAnd that's why you're poor.
>>60943377Yall complain about not being able to afford vegetables,,,lmao, wage, buy rocks, die thats yall l8fe
>>60943355>500% inflation since 2008More actually, pic rel is out of date. It’s more than $5000 leafbucks/oz now. That at least 600%
>>60942535>I don't know. Do you have a fact to share?I don't have the specific demographic breakdown, I just know that the average white North American has no interest whatsoever in gold and silver, but the eyes light up on every foreign born third worlder (not just Indian) I've shown gold and silver to.They've all been rugpulled on their fiat in living memory and it's a cultural tradition for generations to store physical metal savings outside the system.At the LCS 90%+ of the white people I've seen are boomers (or their heirs) selling, it's the browns/foreigners buying. Costco gets sold out, sometimes minutes after their delivery. I go to Costco and it's very brown inside.Call it inductive reasoning, but I have no hard data.
>>60943466It's literally not, plus you don't eat rocks
>>60943441>posts onions and single dollar billswhat in the actual fuck. 1oz of silver is worth more than that entire picture.
>>60942541>An inflationary collapse has been baked into the pie since 1913. There is no turning back now. We seem to have turned the corner on the hockey stick.Agree 100%. Bad shit (not just monetary) will accelerate going forward. Only a few can see it right now.
>>60943647Lmao so you are saying the silver scammers of pmg are jeets? No wonder they gave ro many pics,,,its their families >>60942358>>60942325>>60942305Kek6op my captcga is hynd0
>>60943675>inflationary collapse2% is a collapse chicken little, lmao you instantly lose 20% on garbage rocks
the dalit is running Overtime to make up for the fact it missed out on solid gains; again. Imagine being so fucking pathetic, glad I get to laugh at the dipshit from the comfort of HVAC living
>>60943670If you ever make it on garbage rocks <you wont> that's a cool park of thousands of 500 year old olive trees in Lima, great for birding etc
>>6094370028 posts. Why you mad. We wish you luck with your 1s and 0s, and our rocks (it’s a metal). Please come back when your zeros are worth zeros though. We like a good laugh.
>60942557>Inflation is the worst possible outcome for the stacktard>t.Jimeet Crameresh
>>60940212Apparently platinum is 10-30x more scarce than gold so why shouldn't everyone buy a bunch of platinum instead?
>>60943355Gold wins again.
>>60943737I want to get the horse platinum coin
>>60943466>>60943265I got banned for both of these posts. Jannie’s are not liking my charts, why bully? I want to keep talking to my friend IQTHEJEET
>>60942989If you compare the underlying strength of the American economy in 1980 to 2025, you can see why it could survive a 20% interest rate (although with pain). Back then we were still the manufacturing King of the world by a huge margin. Now, we are a paper lantern and the typhoon is coming.
>>60943647Fair enough. What you are reporting makes sense. I was wondering if anyone had actually counted.
>>60943765> If you compare the underlying strength of the American economy in 1980 to 2025, you can see why it could survive a 20% interest rateThat’s right, a 30% debt/GDP ratio compared to a 130% today. The Volcker solution is. It an option this time around.
>>60943779*not an option
>>60943765An expert on economics but still a broke loser,,,,,why?
>>60943737Remember, the price equation includes supply AND demand. The demand for platinum is very different from gold. Platinum is almost entirely industrial with a little jewelry. Gold is almost entirely monetary with a little industrial and a little jewelry. Silver is in the middle, with industrial, monetary and jewelry demand. A diverse PM portfolio will have all three, depending on budget and tax considerations.
>>60943748Stackturd omits dividends because gold yields 0%
>60943789Price action so far today. We are pricing the entire Indian subcontinent out of the silver market.https://www.kitco.com/charts/silver
>>60943805Lmao but you losers claim they are the only ones buying
Bidding opened up>>60943817I wish the Patrick coin wasn't so expensive.
>>60943793>Silver is in the middle, with industrial, monetary and jewelry demand.Good point. When times are good, silver rides industrial demand. When times are uncertain, people stack silver and buy silver jewelry because they can't afford gold. War is also good for silver. Platinum and paladium consumption is driven by niche demand. (catalytic converters) Silver is going up so fast our memes can't even keep up.
>>60943846When a recession happens price collapses,,, lmao baggies learn the hard way
>>60943784>>60943779There are ONLY two realistic options, and both of them crash the "dollar" and cause hyperinflation1. Default on the debt. 2. PrintUnrealistic options would be:1.cutting entitlements, firing half or more of the federal government employees, severe austerity while simultaneously gutting the regulatory state to allow anyone and everyone to get to work producing actual value.2. Declassifying advanced energy tech (if it actually exists) thus, reducing the cost of electricity to near zero for people and industry. Can't happen because the USA doesn't have enough transformers, and there is a 3 year backorder on new ones.
>>60943826Most likely won't win any of these but I want this too
>60943864Gold and silver did VERY well from 1929 going forward. Prices dropped. The value of the MONEY did not drop.
>>60943892That's right. There is insufficient political will to make the drastic cuts and impose the painful austerity needed to turn the ship. And defaulting on the debt would cause an immediate crash that no politician wants to own. So that leaves inflation. It postpones the pain and allows for shifting the blame. In other words, the coward's way. And since the US government consists of 98% cowards, that is the predictable route.
>>60943760jannies are trannies, can only gibs (useless) bannies!
it would be really funny if one of us became a jannie in /biz/>no jeets needed!
>>60943938>So that leaves inflation. ItLmao 2% cry more brokie
>>60943957Lmao pmg baggies always demand other people work for free
nigger!
>>60943793Rhodium is currently like 7k down from 30k a few years ago. I think it has good potential
>>60943892Good summary. There’s a lot of flip flop between hyperinflation and hyper deflation (default). I always come back to the former, my reasoning is quite simple; the bankers have self preservation and they don’t want to be lynched. Deflation is relatively easy for the common man to understand. He will not understand the underlying mechanics of why it happening but it will feel like he’s being stolen from, which he is. And that will make people very angry when it happens at scale. Hyperinflation on the other hand is very esoteric, even having studied it for years the exact whys and hows are so complex and routinely lead to “animal spirits” type of conclusions. The common man will have no idea what to feel in this scenario besides panic. The bankers will still probably get lynched in the end, but that’s besides the point.
>>60943938>That's right. There is insufficient political will to make the drastic cuts and impose the painful austerity needed to turn the ship.I would phrase it as a political suicide mission. Nobody who turns off the boomers unearned entitlements will survive politically. Here is a link (with timestamp) to one youtubers political prediction for the future in America. (it was recorded before Charlie Kirk was assassinated)https://youtu.be/8aSOf31fZ68?t=3718
>>60943954>jannies are trannies, can only gibs (useless) bannies!Fact.
>>60943979Why? Because it lost money? >>60943982Ai slop salad
>>60943995Yeah, all the metals seem to have a very similar chart. Platinum was crabbing at 1k for years, theyre all having an uptick now
>>60943982>Good summary. There’s a lot of flip flop between hyperinflation and hyper deflation (default)The default would cause an economic crash that would necessitate spinning up the money printers. US Banks hold a large amount (trillions) in US debt. That printing would trigger the hyperinflationThey will do ANYTHING to stretch this out as long as they can until the inevitable happens. Or at least that's the safest bet in peacetime. IF WW3 breaks out, all bets are off and gold and silver STILL go to the moon.
>>60943989>BilyeuThis is one of those guys that randomly would pop up on my feed once in a while over the years, talking about peripherally relate things. I remember seeing a clip of him and thinking this guy is totally unaware, I think he was talking crypto or something. Then a few months ago he has video about the Creature from Jekyl Island and doom posting about the end of the world.Somewhere along the way he did what we all did, fell down the right hole and accidentally gazed into the abyss.Guy is for sure jewpilled at this point,
Forgot I ordered some Peacies a while ago, guess they're coming today
>>60943629Neat;)
>>60942658it was >>60942101 posting tranny shit. gone from the archive too
>>60944020Correct. Its like an undulating cavitation bubble. Competing forces of implosion-explosion. As the implosion progresses the temperatures and pressure rise, forcing the bubble to expand again, but to a larger than previous state before the crushing pressure forces overcome the inflation. Therefore the next implosion is more violent than the last.
https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/wirtschaft/Darum-praegt-Grossbritannien-jetzt-Monopoly-Muenzen-article26033333.html UK made a "Monopoly" themed coin for the 90th anniversary of this game. Start: Today. Zinc/Nickel/Alu(?), and Gold (For 2000 Dollar) or Siver variants aviable. Too expensive to me, and I not prefare paint applications, if so, on coins.
Futures broke 43, feels good to be a silverchad right now.
>>60944156>bought in at $17 spotMy question is, will coin shops to sell shinies even exist in a few years? I bet if it gets too high most of them will just retire.
>>60944156>Futures broke 43, feels good to be a silverchad right now.This may be the reason why silver is going up like crazy the last week.>The India silver delivery demand triggered exactly as predicted - COMEX just declared force majeure on September contracts while three major bullion banks scrambled to locate physical metal.source:https://x.com/agent_mock/status/1962291906466976240It's probably why IQJeet is working so hard in vain to shill against silver. He's trying to help his family get their silver at a price they can afford.
>>60944174>I bet if it gets too high most of them will just retire.Not if they are Jews. Money is better than sex for a Jew.
>>60944174If you run a coin shop, you mostly hedge so you aren’t exposed to price going up or down.
>>60943737Who is a stacker going to sell platinum to (an industrial metal mind you) when things go sideways?
>>60944177>force majeureQrd?
>go to coin shop to sell 10 silver rounds >jew owner asks if I want $30 each>Laugh and tell him I'd take $40 >He says $38>Walk away What a jew
>>60944215Why are you trying to sell now, the bull run's barely begun?
>>60944156$50 waiting room in October?
>>60944063my first non-anime prospector :)
>>60944207force majeure is a common clause in contracts which essentially frees both parties from liability or obligation when an extraordinary event or circumstance beyond the controltl/dr its a (((trick))) to get out of contract obligations
>>60944240Really just swapping some rounds for a different design I bought in bulk
>>60944207Force Majeure:>unforeseeable circumstances that prevent someone from fulfilling a contract.COMEX has a force majeure clause that will prevent a short squeeze. Say someone sells short 1 million oz of silver, AND THERE IS NO AVAILABLE silver for them to buy to cover their short position.Normally this is called a short squeeze, and the short seller MUST BUY SILVER AT ANY PRICE to cover his short position. This is what caused the nickel price to go up to $100,000 per ton.COMEX rules say:>There's no silver, the short seller only has to pay cash in the value of the silver price at the close of that trading day.Heads they win, tails you lose. The lie is that this is NOT unforeseen. The naked short sellers were gambling that no one would call them on their bullshit. The COMEX rules allow naked short selling without risk of a short squeeze.Naked short selling is where you sell something that YOU DO NOT HAVE. Normally, short sellers "buy" the right something BEFORE they can sell it short. Bullion banks and large hedge funds are apparently allowed to do naked shorting of silver.
>>60943989Hell, people are screaming and marching when ANY government handouts are even slightly reduced. They cut back a tiny bit on ridiculous University subsidies and you would think they were burning scholars at the stake. Elon's crew barely touched the budget and he instantly became America's most hated man.
>>60944251>>60944269Interesting thanks. I think I've only heard the phrase before as a supervillain from the Venture Bros.
>>60944394>Venture BrosWhere is African America? I don't see it on the map.
New thread:>>60944419>>60944419>>60944419
>>60944205This is a valid point. Demand for platinum depends on a sustained level of industrial output globally. When the American economy goes under, world industrial activity will tank as well. But it will recover. And platinum has a vital role in hydrogen production and use as fuel. Fission and hydrogen will eventually power the world, but it could be delayed by decades when the bubble pops. So platinum may be a long term play.
An note about gold, silver and liquidity. Gold is too valuable for use in everyday small transactions. Gold is still very liquid if you go to a dealer and are willing to accept local currency. There may be a (((haircut))) however.Silver rounds, or 1 oz coins on the other hand, are highly amenable to small transactions with local merchants. See the following example of failed attempts at using a gold Eagle for transacting in Argentina, back when they had 50% per month inflation.https://youtu.be/3s4Fx9U_kAEFor those (like me) who didn't already know, Argentina is named after the latin name for silver: argentum
>>60944386>Elon's crew barely touched the budget and he instantly became America's most hated man.It was shocking to me (and Elon) that even blatantly wasteful expenditures were protected by the geriatric and corrupt US Senators. Expenditures that nobody could justify, like funding a transgender opera in Columbia. I think that's what caused Elon to throw up his hands in disgust. That is WHY I know there is zero chance of the USA pulling out of the dive before a controlled flight into terrain.
>>60944506US Aid exists because of the Executive Branch. US Aid is used to bribe and incentivize foreign countries to do what the US wants. The New World Order causes problems to offers its own solutions!
is there a way to order physical gold and silver without having ur address in some database anons? It sounds like an open invitation for thieves in the future.
>>60945058Theres no way to trace PMS after you buy them -- you could lose them, trade them, etc at anytime -- the ol boat accident happens constantly. Think like a pirate. Hide like a pirate.
>>60945058> address in some databasejust go buy from a local coin store. pay cash.
