>>60950741
NIGGERS

>>60950757
Please keep /xsg/ a safe and inclusive space for everyone (except those I do not agree with)

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Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage

>>60950796
Nice to see you again Gaylord Focker

Today is the day guys... I can feel it... Big meeting coming up.. Jerome Powell is gonna drop the case and we will moon

WAGMI

I'm so tired bros.. when can I retire?

Jesus Christ is King.

>>60950886
Jewish religion is the superior religion

>>60950886
*never existed

>>60950888
Checked

It's decided guys. There is no going back now.

I'm sorry guys for everything

>>60947813
>>60947824
>>60947836
Zoroastrianism concepts like ethical dualism, the final judgment, the resurrection of the dead, and a future savior (Saoshyant) appear in pre-Christian texts like the Gathas, they're attributed to Zarathustra himself you retard. These show up in Jewish and Christian apocalyptic texts like Daniel, 1 Enoch, and Revelation.

So Zoroastrian; being as righteous and true as it is; managed to influence even the Jews during the Babylonian exile and Persian rule (6 - 4th centuries BCE). Which accepted by scholars of religion. Concepts such as angels, Satan as a cosmic enemy, the messianic age, and bodily resurrection aren’t present in earlier layers of Judaism but become prominent afterward. Btw, where did Christianity come from? Oh right, a Jew.

The whole “virgin births” or “dying and rising gods,” aren't pushed by serious Zoroastrians. That shit (like Zarathushtra's miraculous birth) only appears in Pahlavi texts centuries after Jesus, and we don't consider that 'canon'. Just like how your Gospel of Mary isn't considered canon (otherwise the Christian God is a pedo)
The Saoshyant isn't crucified, ain't resurrected, and he's not divine. He’s a human who helps complete the world’s final renewal (Frashokereti), which involves the resurrection of all souls, not just one.

>"Hey, Zarathustra I forgot to do my homework, can I copy yours?"
>"Of course Jesus, just don't copy it exactly."
Ahura Mazda
God the Father
>Angra Mainyu (Ahriman)
>Satan
Asha vs. Druj
Good vs. Evil, Light vs. Darkness
>Final Judgment
>Judgment Day
Frashokereti
New Heaven & New Earth in Revelation
>Heaven & Hell
>Christian Heaven & Hell
Saoshyant
Messiah / Christ
>Angels (Amesha Spentas, Yazatas)
>Angels and Archangels

>XRP price action is so boring people are larping as religious fanatics

kek baggies, LMAO even

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Guys, since you've all been nice to me, I'm going to share my xrp price prediction with you. It's €1984 on Nov 21. Ripple blatantly tells us this in their Twitter / x page banner. See picture. The street sign on the left says Wall Street 11-21. The receipt in the middle shows various prices (€1.98, €3.99) then the total they add up to is €1984. There's even a clock saying this will happen at exactly 3:22. Not clear which time zone. So this means the price will be surpressed sub $5 until boom November 21 (iso20022). The only thing I'm not clear on in the montage are the three Euro fiat coins. You're welcome.

https://x.com/Ripple

>>60950961
Not 3:22 - 3:29:22 timestamp

>>60950757
guys can we cool it with the racism and keep XSG friendly for our brown, black and jew-rat brethren?

>>60950961
>It's €1984 on Nov 21

2021?

>>60950961
>https://x.com/Ripple

Did they always have this banner or is it new? That bull is kinda bearish and unprofessional.

I think it's a reference to October 1984

That movie that talked about XRP which was it

>>60950940
You literally didn't respond to a single critique I gave other than to mention you don't specifically observe the modern reformations. I specifically said in >>60947824 that the only existing parallels are archetypal. There being a good and bad and eschatology is not when literally everything outside the basically formal structure of a religion is completely different. YOu admit Saoshyant is not God incarnate here to deliver his spirit of salvation unto man and that he was not resurrected, nor is he messianic. He is not salvific or annointed/tied to a royal lineage and the restoration is worldly not divinely ordained and structure. Zoroastrianism emphasizes collective moral effort, not a messiah’s atoning work. He is a human, non-divine figure who aids cosmic renewal, lacking the redemptive, anointed, or divine qualities of a messiah. Zoroastrian eschatology shares broad themes (judgment, resurrection), but these are ARCHETYPAL, not evidence of a messianic framework influencing Judaism or Christianity. The Gathas’ vagueness and late codification of detailed Saoshyant narratives (post-Christian) further show this.

The Gathas are philosophically abstract, emphasizing ethical choice (asha vs. druj) without detailed eschatology or a defined Saoshyant figure. Specific apocalyptic elements like Frashokereti (world renewal), bodily resurrection, and a savior emerge in later Avestan texts (Yashts, Vendidad) and Pahlavi works (Bundahishn, 9th century CE), post-dating Christianity. Daniel derives from pre-exilic prophets like Isiaih 26:19 (resurrection) and Ezekiel 37 (c. 587 BC), predating clear Zoroastrian parallels.
Gathas’ “proto-eschatology” lacks the specificity of early Jewish texts, and no pre-539 BC Zoroastrian sources lend any credence to influence on the religion. The absence of Zoroastrian motifs in early Jewish texts (pre-exilic Torah) further undermines your claim of foundational impact.

>>60950940
You claim angels, Satan, messianism, and resurrection emerged in Judaism post-exile due to Zoroastrianism, but pre-exilic Hebrew texts contain precursors: angels (mal’akh) in Genesis 16:7 (c. 8th century BC), Satan as an adversary in Job 1-2 (c. 7th-6th century BC), and messianic prophecy in Isaiah 9:6-7 (8th century BC (which portion of the Bible GOOD LUCK getting a jew to read or teach in temple)). Resurrection imagery appears in Ezekiel 37:1-14 (6th century BC), before significant Persian contact.1 Enoch (c. 3rd-2nd century BC) in so far as it should even be considered (very good reason it should not (ironically see the Wes Huff/Billy Carson debate mentioned lol)) reflects Hellenistic, not Persian, influences, building on Jewish traditions like Daniel. Christianity’s Messiah (Jesus) fulfills Jewish prophecies (Isaiah 53, Daniel 7), not Zoroastrian models. The Saoshyant, as a human renovator that lacks divinity, crucifixion, or resurrection. These differences are not arbitrary or superficial variations on a theme. They are FOUNDATIONAL, and incompatible and highlight Christianity’s Jewish roots over Zoroastrian borrowing.

You equate Ahura Mazda with God, Angra Mainyu with Satan, and asha/druj with good/evil. Zoroastrianism’s ethical dualism, where Angra Mainyu is a co-eternal force opposing Ahura Mazda, fundamentally clashes with Christianity’s strict monotheism and sin as separation from God and vacuum of good. In Christianity, God is the sole creator (as told by Isaiah), and Satan is created, not an eternal Yin adversary. Dualistic ontology is completely incompatible with Christian monotheism, where evil stems from free will, not a cosmic rival. This theological divergence makes claims of direct borrowing 100% retarded. Christianity’s framework aligns with (is fulfillment of) Jewish monotheism, not Zoroastrian dualism.

goddamnit this SUCKS

>>60951003
>>60951014
wtf kind of schizo are you and what does this have to do with citadel housing market?

3,01870

>>60951003
>>60951003
>>60951014
You concede that virgin birth and detailed Saoshyant narratives appear in late Pahlavi texts (like Bundahishn, 9th century CE), dismissing them as non-canonical. Props to you but these texts are the meat that Zeitgeist-style claims rely on for parallels. Zoroastrian eschatology crystallized during the Sassanid era (3rd-7th centuries CE), after Christian contact, suggesting potential reverse influence via syncretic movements like Manichaeism. No Dead Sea Scrolls or early Church fathers reference Zoroastrian motifs nor do the ritualistically derive from it.

Your claim of “accepted by scholars” is complete stretching BULLSHIT. Some, like Geo Widengren, suggest Persian influence on Jewish angelology/eschatology, others, however, like Yamauchi and Collins, argue for limited and impact via cultural contact, not doctrine. Literally all of your claims are ahistorical fabrications of you not understanding your own corny as fuck religion and believing shitty anti-Christian propaganda films popularized as conspiracy theory themed that are about as rooted in actuality as the 1619 Project or Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code (which, like all of his books, are suspense drenched slop and complete nonsense fabrication I unironically enjoyed reading). You need to do better if you actually care but I know that you don't.

>>60951021
I am a follower and humble servant of Jesus Christ from whom all goodness flows.

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>>60951045
You're also a believer in ChatGPT.
Here, let me try.

You’re trying to dismiss Zoroastrian influence by cherry-picking vague Hebrew passages and pretending they’re fully formed doctrines. They’re not.

Satan in Job isn’t a cosmic enemy. He works for God. Angels in Genesis are just messengers, not organized celestial hierarchies. Ezekiel 37 is about Israel’s national restoration, not individual resurrection. Daniel 12 is the first clear doctrine of bodily resurrection — and it's from the 2nd century BCE, when Persian influence had already reshaped Jewish thought for centuries.

Isaiah 9’s “messiah” is about an earthly king, not a divine savior. The Christian Messiah doesn’t fulfill Isaiah 53 either — that’s a suffering nation, not a prediction of Jesus. These retrofits come later, after Christianity borrows from Jewish apocalypticism, which had already absorbed Zoroastrian eschatology during the exile and Achaemenid rule.

As for 1 Enoch: yes, it’s got Hellenistic flavor — but its angelic warfare, final judgment, dualism, and cosmic corruption are straight out of Zoroastrianism’s playbook. Persian empire = Persian influence. This isn’t complicated.

On theology: Zoroastrianism’s dualism isn’t polytheism. Ahura Mazda is the uncreated, wise Lord. Angra Mainyu isn’t “equal” — he’s the force of deception and destruction, destined to be destroyed in Frashokereti. Meanwhile, Christianity ends up with a Satan who corrupts the world, tempts God’s son, rules the air, and gets thrown into a pit at the end. That’s functionally dualistic, no matter how you slice the metaphysics.

Christianity inherits ideas it didn’t originate: judgment, resurrection, eschatological renewal, angel/demon cosmology. Zoroastrianism had all of it centuries earlier. You’re not arguing history — you’re just doing apologetics in denial.

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Eat thine shite heathens.

Cant wait to buy back under 2$

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>>60951045
There is only one lord and savior. Repent and join us brother!

>>60951056
You being wrong and saying "no actually you proving me wrong in a comprehensive and total way is that is worded well is what actually matters!" is not the strong argument you think it is. Nothing you are saying is new or profound and all of it is extreme cope you are pretending makes sense because you are a literal rebel without a cause petulantly defiant to any concept of conventional traditionalism (or (less likely) you are a shitskin black hebrew israelite equivalent who refuses to admit the true and successful course of religion in the world did not derive from your progenitors). You've LITERALLY never read a single book from the Bible. You are citing the fucking Book of Enoch, an apocryphal text, as though it is accepted canon. You LITERALLY are using an AI though. Just because you are a retarded, heteronomous low effort non-entity doesn't mean everyone else is. Lol Isaiah gave messianic prophesy of JESUS. You don't know fucking first principles about this religion. The extent of Jesus specific fulfillment of messianic prophesies is so profound that it is literally as likely that you would choose an atom in the universe at random twice and have it end up the same atom. Isaiah 9:6-7 (8th century BC) describes a Davidic ruler with divine titles like “Mighty God," linked to messianic hope in pre-exilic texts like 2 Samuel 7:12-16. Second Temple Judaism often interpreted it messianically Christianity’s Jesus fulfills these as a divine, suffering Messiah, unlike the human, non-redemptive Saoshyant in Zoroastrianism, who lacks atonement or divinity. These Jewish roots predate Persian influence and the only people who debate this about Jesus are muslims and talmudic synagogue of sataners.

>>60951056
>>60951295
I never said Satan acts as cosmic enemy, I said he is present. he does act as adversary, challenging the resolve of God's servant Job, which is a precursor to later cosmic enmity. Genesis 16:7’s angels and Psalm 104:4’s “ministering spirits” (c. 8th century BC) prefigure organized angelology. Ezekiel 37:1-14 (c. 587 BC) uses resurrection imagery to symbolize Israel’s restoration..but its language of “bones living” describes (anticipates) individual resurrection in Isaiah 26:19. Daniel 12:2 builds on these foundations, not Zoroastrianism, and its 2nd-century dating reflects final redaction, not origin.


The Book of Enoch’s (an apocryphal text) angelic warfare, judgment, and dualism don’t even derive from Zoroastrianism due to Persian rule. Enoch (c. 3rd-2nd century BC) draws from Jewish traditions (Genesis 6:1-4’s Nephilim) and Hellenistic cosmology, not Zoroastrianism. Its “angelic warfare” aligns with Jewish texts like Daniel 10:13 (c. 6th century BC), which mentions angelic princes without Zoroastrian parallels. Apocalyptic motifs in Judaism evolved independently, as said now multiple times, sharing only broad archetypes (good vs. bad, cosmic justice, etc.) with Zoroastrianism, not specific doctrinal overlap.

>>60951056
>>60951295
>>60951298
You having AI shit out that “Zoroastrianism’s dualism isn’t polytheism and aligns with Christianity’s Satan, who corrupts and is defeated” is insubstantial and doesn’t change what is actually true. Zoroastrianism’s ethical dualism posits Angra Mainyu as co-eternal force opposing Ahura Mazda (Yasna 30.3-4), destined for defeat but independent. Christianity’s Satan is a created being (Ezekiel 28:12-15), subordinate to God’s sovereignty, not a cosmic equal. This is fundamentally incompatible” with Christian monotheism, where evil stems from free will, not a primal destructive spirit. Christianity’s falsely construed (by you) aspect of “dualism” (Satan’s temporary influence) is narrative, not ontological, unlike Zoroastrianism’s actually metaphysical dualism.
Your AI says Zoroastrianism’s ideas predate Jewish equivalents, citing Persian rule (539-333 BC), but the Gathas (c. 1500-1000 BC) are vague on eschatology, mentioning “saoshyants” generically without a defined savior or resurrection. Detailed doctrinal codifications (like Frashokereti, Saoshyant) appear in later Avestan texts (Yasht 19, c. 4th century BC) and Pahlavi works (Bundahishn, 9th century CE), post-dating Jewish apocalypticism and Christianity which again leads to no Zoroastrian motifs in Dead Sea Scrolls or early Church Father traditions, and late Avestan codification (3rd-7th centuries CE) suggests possible reverse influence from Christianity via Manichaeism, exaclty opposite to what causal narratively constructed relationship you suggest. This is so cut and dry and insane to even say and I have now said it multiple times. This is not complicated and is 100% you being deliberately avoidant of undeniable fact because you aren’t interested in truth, you are OBSESSED with narrative.

>>60951056
>>60951295
>>60951298
>>60951302
Your AI says Zoroastrianism’s ideas predate Jewish equivalents, citing Persian rule (539-333 BC), but the Gathas (c. 1500-1000 BC) are vague on eschatology, mentioning “saoshyants” generically without a defined savior or resurrection. Detailed doctrinal codifications (like Frashokereti, Saoshyant) appear in later Avestan texts (Yasht 19, c. 4th century BC) and Pahlavi works (Bundahishn, 9th century CE), post-dating Jewish apocalypticism and Christianity which again leads to no Zoroastrian motifs in Dead Sea Scrolls or early Church Father traditions, and late Avestan codification (3rd-7th centuries CE) suggests possible reverse influence from Christianity via Manichaeism, exaclty opposite to what causal narratively constructed relationship you suggest. This is so cut and dry and insane to even say and I have now said it multiple times. This is not complicated and is 100% you being deliberately avoidant of undeniable fact because you aren’t interested in truth, you are OBSESSED with narrative.

Your fixatedly list parallels (judgment, resurrection, angelology, etc.) which are all universal archetypes, not unique to Zoroastrianism. Egyptian, Babylonian, and Hindu traditions also feature judgment and afterlife. Nothing special to zoroastrianism, just an example of one other iteration of archetypal structuring. Christianity’s Trinity, incarnation, atonement, etc. are absent in Zoroastrianism, which lacks a divine savior or sacrificial, salvific redemption. The two religions and their prescriptions are not remotely similar. You don’t know the Bible, but you should.

>>60951302
Meant to split these last two into paragraphs at the clearly demarcated point but forgot to click enter-still equally readable and coherent.

>>60950975
I just took it at face value.

>>60950978
“Sneakers” from the 90’s.

>>60950978
What did the movie say specifically about xrp?

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>>60951468
behold! it has been prophecised!

>>60951307
You keep repeating “Zoroastrianism lacks specificity” as if vague = worthless. But Judaism’s own eschatology is vague until the post-exilic period — after Persia. The Torah has no clear afterlife, no Satan as cosmic adversary, no messianic apocalypse. These appear in Second Temple texts, especially Daniel, 1 Enoch, and later Christian theology — all of which emerge after centuries of exposure to Zoroastrian concepts like:

Cosmic moral dualism (asha vs. druj),
A final judgment,
Bodily resurrection,
A world savior (Saoshyant),
A good creator god vs. a deceiving adversary.

Your argument is like saying the Gathas don’t matter because they’re old and poetic, while quoting Isaiah as if it fell from the sky in one go. The Gathas are early — and they mention the Saoshyant, Frashokereti, and the spiritual choice between good and evil. That's a religious framework that pre-dates and outlasts anything in early Judaism.

You're also confused on dualism. Zoroastrianism isn't saying Angra Mainyu is “equal” to Ahura Mazda in power — it's ethical/spiritual dualism, not metaphysical polytheism. But Christianity functionally copies the structure: a cosmic enemy (Satan), a corrupted world, a final divine judgment, and a messianic return to defeat evil. Doesn’t matter that it’s reframed under monotheism — the ideas are the same roles.

As for 1 Enoch and Daniel: apocalyptic themes like angelic hierarchy, final judgment, cosmic war, and resurrection become dominant after Jewish interaction with Persia. The timeline is obvious. You can shout “narrative!” all you want — it’s still historically accurate that Judaism's theology evolves most drastically after Zoroastrian contact.

This isn’t about one-to-one copying. It’s that Christianity is downstream from a Jewish apocalyptic worldview, and that worldview is deeply shaped by Zoroastrian cosmology. Denying that is just bad history.

One of my favorite quotes from Ecclesiastes goes something like…I have found that only 1 man in 10,000 is virtuous, but not a single man…written by King Solomon if I’m not mistaken, the wisest man to ever live…food for thought

>>60951598
*but not a single woman

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>>60951655
Morning.
I can’t wait for a nice winter storm to shut down the local roads.

it's over bros...
it's always over for us :(

>>60951468
>>60951475
The 262nd day of the year is this Friday, September 19th.

3,0158

>>60951572
Why are you posting literal AI slop. Every context I said it lacked specificity I clarified that any carved out specificity that emerged later to become associated with causalt relation to Christian thinking is post-Christian formation, and therefore at absolute most association possible, reverse in order to what you are suggesting. The term "cosmic moral dualism" is nonsense. Wtf is "cosmic moral monism?" Goodness without worldly corruptive force? Saoshyant is not a savior. The dialectic of ashs vs. druj is not remotely similar to the comparison of God vs. satan. I literally never said the Gathas "don't matter" to the claim. I said they do not legitimize it, which, they objectively don't. You are trying to conflate and disassociate self-servingly as it contextually serves you in a way that is arbitrary/capricious and irrational. Why are you using an AI to reply to me? It isn't even substantively addressing what I say. AI is not arbitrary "I am right" machines that change reality. They argue despite being wrong having no new substance to commit or challenge to bring. It is literally just repeating the same claims over and over adding nothing. And, AGAIN, Enoch is not accepted Biblican canon (so why base so much of your argument on it) and even the claims you are making about IT are not justified. Lol Your AI is confused on what "dualism" IS. Zoroastrianism has no messianic return or spiritual redemption through belief commitment. The ideas are not remotely the same. Islam has eschatology too, as does virtually every major religion in recorded history; This is what I meant by "archetypal similarities." These are trivial structural concepts. Literally nothing your AI said replied to any of my arguments and the fact you have reduced to plugging and chugging its posts is unbelievable surrender. For reply to any single point I didn't address specifically in this reply, see prior replies where I did, multiple times. Not gonna loop with a retard led AI.

>>60952420
>Why are you posting literal AI slop.
Hey man you started it lol

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>>60952328
This post makes me feel hopeful and believe in xrp

>>60952420
This post makes me feel put off and makes me feel like Christians are bloodthirsty psychopaths who will butcher all who disagree with their particular brand of chatgpt dogma.

What does this say about me?

>>60950978
Possibly, you could be right, the Ripple banner stated 1984 as a way to foretell surveillance and taxation on all transactions, no matter how small, and isn't really talking about price discovery / flip switch. But I can hope that it means 1 xrp = €1984.

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You lot have zero theological erudition. Evil is the absence of good. Reality spoken into existence by the Word was Good, True and Beautiful before the Fall. Evil is only used by God for greater good. There is no duality in Christianity. God is eternal, Satan is a fallen angel that was created by God. Pagan religion is worthless. It is nothing like Christianity. Some outward resemblances perhaps but metaphysically it is diametrically opposed to that pagan crap. Stop reading all this New Age garbage, eg Blavatsky, you sound like all the idiots on the DavidIcke Forum.
We are all bored here. XRP moons when?

Jesus Christ <> Satoshi Nakamoto.
You know what you need to do.

You know why I felt like Clavers group was a cult?
- their mods censor anything negative about claver even off platform
- his subscribers have complete faith in price appreciation, whatever Jake tells them, like the coming of the Messiah. They are celebrating their wealth in advance
- comments about ripple manipulating the price of xrp were deflected or suppressed
- subscribers get anxious and roudy when Jake goes AWOL for a few days (he usually does 1 hour live sessions 3-4x/week). The mods have to assure subscribers that Jake is ok.

I was kinda surprised. The subscribers for the most part seem like intelligent, right wing, employed folks.

When will the cuts be announced. We need a timer

>>60952533
It says you are the same person I replied to originally who reached a terminus in rhetorical space to be able to reply and is not samefagging to change sophistical tact, tacitly admitting you know you are wrong and cannot argue the actual facts.

Alternately it says you have not read a single page of the Bible (which is also true for base referent samefag anon) and are SUCH a low IQ person you would base your entire thinking about something on the emotionally preloaded, deliberate misinterpretation of a single post you read on a board by an anon you don't know and haven't tested the claims of. Christianity is fundamentally anti-violent and actually as a really good example of its novelty formed the concept formalized in "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" as its ethical absolute foundation, ironically in the exact same context where Mohammad directed his men to stone the person to death (and then the Quran goes on to say that the Bible is the unadulterated word of "allah" (while giving this implicitly opposite foundational direction and contradicting it and itself hundreds of other times, and the Bible giving teaching such that the Quran is false, so if the Bible is true the Quran is false and if the Bible is false the Quran is false so the Quran is false lol)). This is a totally novel teaching and Jesus taught absolute pacifism and non-violence. There is nothing worth punishing which is not sin and we are not fit to judge another or punish them physically for sins of their spirit. Jesus lived by this and (partly to fulfill prophesy, partly as demonstration of this) instructed his disciple to sheath his sword after he hewn off the ear of a soldier that came to take him in the garden. Anyone who says otherwise is choosing the world over Christianity.

>>60952533
>>60952654
(cont.)
You not knowing this means you have not learned the literal 101 core of Christian ethics and are a predetermined retard/hater of what you view to be contemporary or conventional traditionalism for no reason other than to feel deep and like a non-NPC despite being the deepest kind of one.
>>60952467
Not using AI, you apathetic non-entity. You being insecure and heteronomous is not demonstration and foundation to believe everyone else is inadequate in some of the specific ways that you have chosen to be.

>>60952654
Ask any AI how Thomas Aquinas destroyed Islam if you want a quick tl;dr. You could read Summa Contra Gentiles for the full picture. XRP

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O Lord Jesus, unto Thee Thy lambs doth cry with a great voice:
“O my Bridegroom, thee I love, and seeking thee, I now contest,
and with Thy baptism am crucified and buried.
I suffer for Thy sake, that I may reign with Thee,
for Thy sake I die, that I may live in Thee.
Accept me offered out of longing to Thee as a spotless sacrifice.”
Lord, save our souls through her intercessions,
since Thou art great in mercy.
May the memory of the Holy Martyrs Sophia, Faith, Hope, and Love be eternal!

>>60952624
There is a contrast of spiritual evil and goodness (like literally every other major religion) in Christianity but absolutely right, it is fucking RETARDED to call Christianity "dualistic" or equivalent to/derivative of religions that foundationally are. Pagan religion is worthless and nothing like Christiianity: agreed. Evil is used despite itself by God towards the victory of good and those who sew the wind reap the whirlwind and promote a better world for those who are strengthened against them in opposition while so doing, who God loves and stays with (he would come unto the sword swinger too if he chose to change and accept him). Evil was only powerful against us originally because we used our free will to learn about it which poisoned us, and God still loved us enough to create bodies for us to be protected and a code to redeem ourselves and then send his prophets and Son to die after we could not redeem ourselves through acts. Today it is only powerful insofar as we do not accept Christ and keep ourselves firmly/intentionally in His presence and plan for us.

>>60952673
Don't need to! Islam destroys itself. It contradicts itself hundreds of times literally and is incoherent slop that LITERALLY only persists because the average IQ across their population is 81 (75 is the lowest you are still allowed to stand for trial in the US) which vaguely qualifies the average one for custodial work where you would not want to eat off the table they cleaned or trust the cleanliness of anything they did, and put half of them even stupider than that and one standard deviation roughly approaching where you could consider eating off the surface if the cutlery didn't touch it, and because they are literal inbred cousin fuckers when they aren't fucking camels and goats. The cousin marriage rate in Iraq is like 60% and it isn't even top 4 in the muslim world. A substantial part of the Quran is not just abhorrent but is literally grammatically/rationally nonsensical and scholars pretend it just doesn't exist. Like every fifth sentence is just garbage code nonsense that isn't even valid in terms of the language it was written in which they all always praise it being written in that language despite there being multiple translations they don't know about when they parrot the talking point and despite the perfect existence of things like the Dead Sea Scrolls. Lol

>>60952694
Hallelujah

Just report chatgpt posters everyone

>>60952651
Its supposed to be 2pm EST. So in less than an hour.

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>>60952809
Sweet. Right before the Champions League games of tonight

Why was the Charlie Kirk OP pic deleted from the last thread?

why is flare pumping

>>60952792
It's really got out of hand.
I enjoy a moderate amount of schizo discussions.
But some of our Christian regulars really disagree with anything non-Christian.
And now the thread has descended into super lengthy back and forth debates over Christianity vs. other beliefs.

The current back and forth is basically:
>My sources are accurate and yours have no legitimacy.
>Nuh, uh. My sources are accurate and yours have no legitimacy.
>I've done far more research and am much smarter than you. Look at all the complex words I use.
>I've done even more research and am even more smarter than you. Look at all the complex words I use.

I remember how fun and comfy schizo discussions were in XSG.
Now we get angry and combative debates on Christianity vs. everything else (and sometimes even various flavors of Christianity vs. other flavors of Christianity).
To me the core reason for why this sucks so much of the fun out, is that schizo conversations stem from a inventive, curious, open minded, investigative, and collaborative attitude.
The Christianity discussions are all:
>I've already done ALL of the research that is worth doing.
>You should feel SHAME and EMBARESMENT that you haven't done as much research as I have.
>I already have all the correct answers and you should just accept them.
>Here are multiple walls of text to explain how stupid anyone is that has even slightly different viewpoints than me.

Even if you think you're right, don't you see how miserable it makes the thread having these debates?
So tired of this rigid, inflexible dogma.
Nothing to learn from each other.
Lectures and more lectures.

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>>60952736
He knew we would fall when He created us. He sent His only Son to redeem us. He sees everything at once for He exists outside of time and space. "Before you were even born, I knew you."

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>>60952328
INSHALLAH!!!!! The great unseating approaches

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>>60952987
>Christian regulars really disagree with anything non-Christian
Yes, only one religion can be true and that is Catholicism. I have never used ChatGPT ever. These discussions shouldnt be fun because souls are on the line. You dont love your neighbor enough. I love you. Jesus Christ loves you.

>25bps
Nothingburger

>>60953067
It is Christianity. Catholicism is a heretical synagogue of satan, but I appreciate where your specific heart is at.

>>60953067
>These discussions shouldnt be fun because souls are on the line. You dont love your neighbor enough.
Guilt.
I grew up in a cult.
I won't say which one, because it will make it easier to dox.
The reason I bring it up, is because my old cult would constantly make us feel guilty for not preaching to other people.
It's a means of controlling your thoughts and emotions.
Your coworker says he's depressed, you should tell him about THE TRUTH (your religion).
On vacation? Better talk to your waiter about it too.
And it's not good enough to only talk about it most of the time.
You should feel immense guilt if you miss a single opportunity.
Lives are at stake, and you'll be personally held responsible if you don't help every single person you encounter.
Firefighters have off hours.
But not you.

Your religion isn't a cult.
But you personally are behaving like a cult member.
Cults use the B.I.T.E. method to control people.
Behavior, Information, Thoughts, and Emotions.
Here are the behaviors that are and are not acceptable.
These source of information are trustworthy and these are wrong.
These thoughts are good and these are bad.
These emotions are good and these are bad.
Everything is quantified and defined into boxes.

Cults aren't limited to religions.
They can be governments, and groups as small as 2 people.
It's about power and control.

>>60953016
Truly.
>>60952987
This is not even remotely what happened. At least not in any way that isn't equivalently the case when a leftist says that Charlie Kirk said that we should genocide all trans, a video is produced proving he said something completely different, the entrenched ideologues pretend it doesn't exist and continue parroting the same thing they objectively know is not true because they never cared what was true, they only cared about success and power of desired message despite knowing it is false, and retards like you sit on the sideline and say things like "wow I guess everything really is subjective." Lol I directly and substantively replied to every one of his nowhere near original, extremely old objections he then funneled through AI with direct citations in a clean, sufficiently articulated, point-by-point address. He refused to address anything I said and meandered and made claims using basic terminology in an extremely retarded way. This is not he said she said. This is he is a retard I am not and you are the lukewarm worse. I am not saying you are stupid as a consequence of disagreeing with me, I am saying you disagree with what I have said here because you are stupid, and I prove how, specifically, in an inarguable, objective way. The willingness of petulant wannabe contrarians (who are actually turbo-conformists of a much gayer kind) to concede they were wrong is not prerequisite to be right, nor is recognition from fence-sitters who don't know enough to interpret one way or the other or devote even the amount of attention span sufficient to read let alone test the claims yet narcissistically feel qualified and driven still to make judgments on the truth value of each position (which they are TOTALLY transcendent of for sake of only meta-engaging) and opine on the fact they are said instead of just skipping posts they don't like in a general that has been very sparse because news has been very sparse.

>3.02 to 05 to 02
What is that old asshole doing?

>>60953309
rubberbanding between 3.01 to 3.03 as a base point for the next leg higher is not a bad place to be

desu i thought we'd be back at .60 again

>>60953293
Every single person that has ever lived has a moral system that fits this definition without exception despite your redditor, most fervently those who claim otherwise. This being the case does not make moral prescriptions of philosophizing trivial or arbitrary or subjective. Morality without authority is impossible to justify. Nothing is right or wrong without formal authority recognizing it to be. If there is no absolute authority every moral action even the most "egregious" thing you can imagine is as arbitrary as two stones bashing into each other in deep space because no one actually capital I Is and we are all just exotic arrangements of matter in an insignificant part of a universe projection mechanical behaviors which allude to the concept of being with no one to consider it or experience it as such. If Authority exists, it exists at the exclusion of all alternatives. So even without accepting a specific morality, either nothing matters and everything is so fake it can't even be fake because it lacks the ontological pretense to be able to portray or personify anything intentionally at all, or there is a moral reality that exists..There is a moral reality which exists, that is knowable through faith but beyond reasonable doubt through probability and reason and that moral reality is Christianity. The reasons detailed in prior replies are not arbitrary or matters of interpretation. They are literally inarguable facts regardless of who chooses to care if they matter or not.

>>60953410
despite your redditor gush*

>>60953109
Some dude said several nothingburger rate cuts work better, historically speaking, than a significant rate cut. You can look up the numbers. Patience, we'll get more

These chatbot assisted posts are really the death of online conversation.
Used to require some creativity and effort to troll.
Now you can just outsource it and have a lengthy time wasting post in seconds.

>>60953293
You were a Jehovah's Witness. You're not gonna dox yourself by saying that, former JW's are fucking everywhere. Cat's been out of the bag for decades.

>>60953479
I am not using chatbot. Lol People are literally becoming so retarded and apathetic it is like Idiocracy. This happened WAY faster than I expected and is kind of insane. Suddenly a single paragraph is taxing beyond reason and anything denser than wagmi sentiments or gay TA speculation is beyond the scope of human capability. Humanity is getting COOKED at both ends by technology's actual stutification and its lowered expectations projected by those drifted into it who don't even notice the shift gradually as they are slowboiled and just draw progressively shittier baselines and assume all of humanity is there too. Kind of insane and unbelievable to watch but would be a lot more unbelievable if I didn't just see how people acted during covid and the prior lefty idpol insanity of 2016 especially up to that point.

>>60953479
If a post has over 9000 words in 2025, it was prolly AI. Prolly. Since we have been getting dumber overall, anything verbose is suspicious right away.

>>60953493
Jehovah's Witness is way too broad to be what he is imo if he is concerned of doxing. Possibly a Korean religious cult bastardization of Christianity similar to LDS or Mormons but smaller and more specific?

>>60953552
I agree, your posts are you. That "zorro" poster admitted to using AI

>>60953561
My point in >>60953552. Lol You guys are fucking COOKED (but in your defense, so are most people and long posts are genuinely rare). I get criticized for writing a literal single fucking paragraph in an insta comments section, though weirdly despite being the immediacy platform, they seemingly are becomming much more tolerant of long writing, but I think that has a lot more to do with a loosened ideological grip and a willingness to contend with fact in discussion rather than sophistically mob and shut down like propaganda shock troops. That said, I am pretty sure posts on this board are limited to 3000 characters, let alone 9000 words.

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>>60953608
Anon, I agree. Our posts crossed

>>60953608
Btw, "over 9000" is a 4chan meme, sir. You new my guy?

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XRP will be over 9000 soon. Have faith

>>60953606
Ahh gotcha. Yeah he definitely was. My bad for assuming. Like I said, I agree with your general heuristic, as sad as what it means is for where we are and are headed cognitively/existentially. Technology is delivering a lot of liberty but a lot of it is tantalizing beyond most of humanity's capacity to let ruin the fucking world and their own depth of being.

>>60953621
Completely agree. I wrote >>60953608
before I read >>60953606. Again, my bad, brother.
>>60953631
I literally used to run home from school every day to watch Dragon Ball Z. Lol I just didn't catch it in this context.

>>60953677
to not* let it...

>>60953698
>Lol I just didn't catch it in this context
Whenever you see "over 9000" on 4chan. it is used for meme purposes. 9000 words is an awful lot.

most people in the younger generations cannot even read the hands of a clock

Report chatgpt posterx

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>Tomorrow
Tomorrow
>Tomorrow
Tomorrow

>>60953995
a One percent pump will do, pig

3,03302

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It’s clear who the alpha is

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>>60954253
Umm wtf apple…why you not show my paint lines

>>60954253
>>60954272
are u retarded? it's AI

>>60954293
AI knows who the alpha is

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>>60954253
>>60954272
charles has been cucked since puberty