Kind of sad desu; such indignities Kaczynski wrote of
No job is worth crying for
>blocks your path
>>60957329Rofl whats this hahahhaah
>>60957180>WAGIE CRINGE THREADwagie tries to stop person recording
>>60957392wagie doing his dance
>>60957403Fuckin kek
>>60957468>>60957447Wagies were getting a little to cocky with that one
>>60957403Did anything
>>60957468It’s wild that some people’s interactions with their boss look like high school drama
>>60957494Not terribly uncommon for small businesses
>>60957329Overspice? Pay the price!
Not my problem: level NG+++++++ 99
>>60957489Clean it up, wagedrone
I don't cry at all, the bottle is my solace.
when my team is having important meetings about deadlines and layoffs etc...I just browse biz and look at my bitcoin stackwe can say i have fuck you money in a senseahahahaha
Put the yellow shirt on.
>>60957561imagine hitting first and losing the fighti would resign instantly out of shame
>>60957637DANCE WAGIE DANCE
>>60957180I don't even have a job.
>>60957403>21Looks like mid 30s.
>>60957329why does he just hold still and let himself get slapped like that?
Clean up on aisle who gives a fuck
>>60957764>*hnnng* brap squeak BRAPFT *plop plop plop*
>>60957180This is what you get for having women in the workplace.
>>60957666the homosex flags really complete the story
>>60957468I hope Cody killed that psycho but he probably didn’t
>>60957865why would you kill someone over a stupid wagie job? you get fired from your bulshit gig and go get another one. that's one of the upsides of working for low wages - they are easily replaced. there are always openings at other wagie shops because the people who work there are just as retarded and get fired constantly, too.
>>60957233This isn't that bad desu. It's silly small town humor that you used to see everywhere back when things were normal. The creepy lifeless HR positivity stuff is the real horror show.
>>60957489This is like when a poor jeet gets the chance to look down on and mistreat a slightly poorer jeet.
>>60957180Because people don't care about the suffering of others. That one big problem of our world, from which many other problems stem. But not the only problem.
>>60957764SHART IN MART
>>60957911>>60957925Put the cape back on Anon.
>>60957403Well? How spicy were the nuggets?
I would think any job that requires zero to very minimal interaction with the public and isn't quota based is highly comfy. I wouldn't know from experience but it's just my assumption. Like working some bullshit "hybrid-remote" office job where you have to come in 1-2x per week and shoot the shit for 5 hours, take an hour break, go to a meeting for an hour, and maybe do 1 hour of actual work (answering emails). Seems comfy. Retail and service work are hell.
>>60957981can you post the full 65 image collection
>>60957447lol. At my first job out of college I used to go into the bathroom and just sit on the toilet put my head in my hands and fall asleep. Sometimes I'd be in there for like 2 hours. No one ever said anything.
>>60957561Definitely something that would happen to me
>>60957666>>60957807>Gay flags>Two kids>Dreidel dreidel dreidel poster on the cubicle Cant make this shit up
>has jobcringe
>>60957764i still do
>>60957961Dead
>>60958286What job?
>>60957335Utilities won't pay themselves.
>>60957518This is what Linkies are paying for. Sad!
>>60958281
>>60957637Holy fuck they do this in China. Probably where they learned it.
>>60957561This is why i don't pick fights in public. I'm 6'5, can deadlift 450lbs and bench 250, weigh 250lbs. Even though I'm strong as shit someone with technical skill can easily find a weak point, and the fact he could have a knife to retaliate since he's a nigger.I could take up martial arts, but from what I've heard is that in a street fight the best defense is to either run away or always maintain distance. Either way, it's fucking stupid to throw the first punch.
>>60957180I cry a few times a week even when work flow is slow. > >t. CPA making $450k/year
>>60959496>1x bw bench>"strong as shit"
C'mon wagie, give us a dance!
>>60959496For some reason, big people are less intimidating. Probably because of proportion. Like if youre 6’5, you have the body of a 6’5 person and there is nothing scary about about it. There is a “fighting body” and it exists. Tall big people dont have it. I remember I had a friend who was always fighting and was known for fighting. My dad saw him once, had no idea who he was, and said “he looks like he can fight.”
Clean it up.
>>60959562manlet copethere's a reason there are weight classes in combat sports
>>60959585Yea he might be a little short shit but his speed is superior.
>>60959585Yeah. But not in real life. In real life, people like you are not intimidating. I am just telling you how I feel. And once you get over 6’1, your body starts looking unattractive and your head/face/skull is unattractive. I am not coping. There are people shorter than me and it triggers “he can fight.” Cause irl is different from the ring.
>>60959585Like I know why ogre people use the term “manlets” cause they are big and ugly. The human body can go tall, as in height, but for some reason, the width and thickness doesnt follow proportionally. That is why in ancient medical texts, pre 1900s, they always mentioned “tall but well proportioned.
>>60959585Like people are likely to avoid you because you look ogre, clumsy and shrekish. Look at the Dutch Giant. His proportions are terrible. There is a sweet spot in height.
>>60959598Not even in terms of “fighting.” But in life. Past a certain height, you WILL look bad objectively because the rest of the body doesnt match the height. And it looks bad. I live in a big city so I have seen all sorts of people. Once someone starts going over 6’1, the arms, torso, limbs etc look gross. Not everyone but most. THESE are the people that call others manlets.
Forever my favourite wagie.webm
>>60959598>>60959585Irl, would you fight a homeless dirty bum? No. No one would fight a 6’5 shrek looking freak? No. Youre right. The ring has weight class. Real life has many other factors.
>>60959598>>60959585> No one would fight a 6’5 shrek looking freak?I meant “would you fight a 6’5 looking freak?
>>60957180
>>60959585It honestly isnt a cope. Past a certain height, you’re either a twig or fat. Youre not a professional so youre not on roids so you wont look good. And even if youre on roids, chances are you dont have good proportions and insertion. Regarding insertion, not everyone has good insertions so this isnt a height issue.
>>60957397sieg hail to you too wagie
>>60959633>>60959621>>60959562>>60959517Why are Manlets so sad? look at this little mans display. you get riled up too easily sport
>>60959680>>60959668>>60959656>>60959645this little boy is absolutely stamping his feet lmao
>>60959664FAT=INCOMPETENTFAT=STUPID
>>60959714>>60959718No. You were asking to get called out and laughed at for being a freak.
>>60957381she was murdered for this
>>60959714>>60959718how fat and ugly are you lardass?kek
>>60959733Dont forget “6’4”
>>60957180I used to punch french fry boxes in the freezer at Burger King so this is kind of relatable
>>60957381Rip, too soon
>>60959825No you havent. Youre just coping. Put the 6’2+ guy infront of a white wall, if you can tell he is 6’2+ then he is not proportional. Its just how it is. Past a certain height, the width and thickness doesn’t match.
>>60959853She died? Link?
>>60959864She did and yes I own lots of link, thank you
>>60959886This mofo. I meant link to her getting shot
Who was in the wrong here?
>>60959941Absolute kek, was it a nigger or a fat retarded hillbilly woman?
>>60959496>I could take up martial arts, but from what I've heard is that in a street fight the best defense is to either run away or always maintain distance. Either way, it's fucking stupid to throw the first punch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0jwpwzGpGQ
>>60959664lmao
Damn someone better get over here and clean all this up.
>>60960237lmaoo
>>60957403>Big smack and fries>>60958286My job right now we've got a big room upstairs with maybe a dozen chairs and a bunch of computers and sometimes there will be like 10 of us up there will the lights off napping and watching videos and shit. Manager catches us all the time but he can't do sheit cause we're in a union.
>>60957882There needs to be more violence against people you don't like.Natural selection will only make the world a better place.
>>60959561>tfw no clumsy wagie gfWhy is this allowed?
>>60959598Please, context here. lol.
>>60957381>>60959735>>60959853>>60959864I just looked it up with search engines, scrounged 4plebs, and asked AI.Apparently her name is Tammy Sepetis and there's no proof that she died. She simply went into hiding.
>>60957641He merely slapped him, not hit him with a haymaker while distracted like niggers do.
>>60961409Modern cops unknowingly went back to the middle ages and tried to arrest random people for being married to hot fertile and pious 13 year olds.
>>60959894Not many people recorded themselves getting the vaxx overall. You just see it on tv a lot.
>>60961386it's a fucking travesty
Only women are allowed to do this, tf does he mean "does everyone cry at their work" lmao
These threads always get me. I've never been a wagie, I was lucky enough to luckout on a business I started when I was 15.But like holy shit, this must be humilating, being paid absoute peanuts. On top of it, anytime I go outside for a walk or to excersise on the fucking clock at 5:30 there is shit ton of angry drivers, like visable seething in their cars. Then 30 minutes later they are all gone (probally at home ordering food/doing goy activites) Its like these people never left school and will die in that envioment. Holy kek this world is both cruel/sick & amazing at the same time lol. Life is fantastic for me but I know it can all change when our masters decide otherwise.
I worked on the Hill. We had another intern start crying once and I said “it’s okay to cry, but you can’t do it at work, it’s unprofessional” and she tried to light me on fire in the group chat. Didn’t work though.
>>60960241is this really how america is?
>>60960237this one wins
>>60957447The funny thing about this design is if you stand on the rim and squat. The raised heel position makes squatting very comfortable. It also is fun to shit squatting on the toilet.
It's kind of funny to me that employers are striking deals with Better Help to offer mental health shit to their employees at a discount instead of just paying their employees more.
>>60962046If you’re around black people, you’ll see shit like this sometimes. This was actually pretty innocuous, albeit annoying. Usually it’s threatening.
>>60962095A few extra $ isn't going to fix their mental health. Like, you could pay them $50 a hour it wont' fix shit. Because they have issues outside of work (hence why they are on a shit job). These are shitty people; they don't have bad mental health, they are just mentally incapable IQ people. Probs with flexing good employee work conditions to insurance & government/unions.
>>60962046Unfortunately yes..niggers are the worst
>>60962149SHART IN MART
>>60962046>>60962118I want to follow up on this. I took my dog for a walk around the corner 15 minutes ago and there were two different black people yelling to themselves. I live in what’s considered as a good neighborhood in a city and this is common.So excuse me if I’ll take the fat black teen making a fool out of himself in a Walmart over schizos and other bizarre behavior.
>>60957180been an accountant for 8 years. this year i was diagnosed with hypertension. wagie life will be the end of me. give me alt szn please.
>>60957574> some say the cart is perched overlooking the parking lot to this day
>>60957381Man I hate canadians and women so much
>>60961963I always laughed about this, but I never thought about how dehumanizing it is. They literally could have just set up a table or stand with some hand sanitizer instead of making him do this lol
>>60957468kek is this legal in America? Just firing someone whenever you want?
>>60962655"At Will" employment
>>60962655It’s bad in some instances, but it also allows us to be more efficient and dynamic. Imagine you couldn’t fire some idiot, and then if you did you need to give them a year’s worth of salary. It’s why European companies struggle compared to American ones.
>>60962655It is EXACTLY as it should be.*You* are the one selling your skills and labor. Any employer can choose to stop buying you at any time, it's just common sense. Just the same as you can choose to stop buying netflix or whatever other product at any time you like, because it's your money.
>>60962781You could also underpay your wagie and give him the few extra months in case he is about to fuck off or gets fired.
>>60962920Clean it up, wagie
>>60957329holy fuck
>>60963036
>>60961409coal strip mining protesthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMcpaWTlGdA
>>60959461I'd love to slap those depressing wage titties around
>>60963036What exactly was his game plan?
Anon, you're not dancing. Why don't you come to the front and lead this one.And a 1 and a 2 and a 1-2-3-4!
>>60961436thx.
>>60960237If I remember correctly, didn't he get a hug from one of the wagie girls?
>>60957489Even if you despise wagies, that guy is a total niggerfaggot. The shirt, ugly ass shoes and glasses tell you he's an out of shape beta male. He's never been in a physical confrontation, yet he abuses the least powerful members of society, Target wagies. Imagine the satisfaction of hitting him in the neck as hard as you can, over and over again. Imagine watching his pencil arms flail about helplessly. lol, lmao
>>60963518malding wagie kek
>>60963533>low IQ retard who can't understand nuanceur gay
>>60961375HOW DO I AQUIRE THIS JOB
>>60957335what about being enslaved. Would you cry if your job was to slave?
>>60957637i would quit if they even asked me to do this. this is humiating and inhumane. some fucking retarded hr roastie's idea for sure. American wagie jobs look even worse than my country
>>60959496This board has more larpers than /fit/ holy kek
>>60961436PETIS
>>60962623The economy requires jam boys
>>60957447Sounds like a workman's comp claim to me.>>60962059>the jeets are awake
>>60963307this is beyond dystopian jesus christ. literal slavery
>>60959464The Waltons who own Walmart talk about being inspired from the employee standups in Japan. So you're half right.
>>60962006I hate crying people at work. I work as a nurse and the younger generation is weaker. I just walk away. They leave the profession soon enough so it doesn't matter. Crying is le gay.
Remember this man when you think about stepping in to stop wagie abuse. Don't be a hero, they deserve it.
>>60959496A lot of fights end by someone getting picked up and dropped onto their head. Initiative and landing the first punch make a huge difference too. You're right though. Martial arts only nade me realize the best course of action is avoiding fights in the street.
>>60957637Keep in mind these people wouldn't even cooperate enough to graduate high school. Yet Walmart somehow convinced them to do this. We need to find out what kind of BF Skinner tier psychological manipulation techniques they are applying at Walmart. I am tempelted to get a job their just to document this
>>60963701Black people love dancing. Remember the covid nurses dance?
Pay up wagie
>>60963727HAHAHAHAHHAA
I have a story I just remembered.>be 21>looking for summer job>barely any available>go to bougie bread store, get interview>manager talks for 15 minutes about himself and his love of bread>”oh by the way, this will be a part-time role, about 15-20 hours a week, and it opens up in a month”>needed a job yesterday but fine>”now, I want you to go find a bread that you like, one that speaks to you, come back and try to sell me it”>say “sure thing”>walk out of back office, past the breads and out the doorI feel like the ages of 17-25 were all one big, elaborate humiliation ritual.
>>60963730Lmaoooo look at his face
>>60963501Yes, it cuts off too early. The guy basically starts to break down in tears, and the girl who tried helping him earlier comes back to hug him. Quite a sad and pathetic sight. How do you ever recover from that?
>>60963920How do I recover from this guy having more female contact than me
>>60963883
>>60963701It's about sending a message.
>>60959561She isn't couldn't. You can't see below the mask. So she is tilting her head down now than usual. This throws off her balance because the body follows the head. Also oxygen deprived from rebreathing in a mask.
>>60963986kek I was just trying to find something but I didn't want to walk around the whole store looking, and I saw a wagie working and we made eye contact, then she turned and started walking away to avoid me. I had to shout her down to point me in the right direction. These socially anxious zoomer wagies need this kind of training.
>>60959692This is exactly the type of delivery order I expect an Aussie to make
>>60960237I like how she immediately runs over like he is a toddler and she already lnows what is about to happen>no honey that's too heavy for you>mom! I can do it!
>>60962059i can smell this post
>>60962623The point is yo get people's attention. It's so he can walk up to people and garass them into compliance. There are no winners here. Except for Purell.
>>60963036Wrestling themed pizza joint?
>>60962623You can't see it, but there's a big grin underneath this man's mask. He likes it.
>>60963652He's single, ladies.
>>60963652You know I went to Ross
Kek total wagie death
>>60963553>black people don't tip and now say it's because racism
>>60964177>Vygiene
>>60963727humiliation rituals are real
>>60964239kek. I wish I could get a wagie job just to do this>t. retired
>>60963727This is literally a cult initiation. It creates severe cognitive dissonance in the person who participates. They know it is humiliating and they are supposed nto know. They know that you know that they know it's humiliating. Once it is over, the cope immediately begins to set in. Ask yourself, "Would Indo this? Would I just humiliate myself for no reason?"No. You must have done it for a reason. Becoming a member lf this group must be valuable to you. Otherwise you never would have danced the dance of the teapot. Yes. You are one of the group now. We're all in this together.
>>60964282Sounds like a good team building exercise, people who experience trauma together form bonds together and that makes for a more productive workplace.
>>60964282This was what I felt every morning when getting ready for work and when sitting in rush hour traffic.
>>60964321Get back in your wagie cagie.
Hey boy I left you a tip...but you're going to need to earn it.
>>60964282>This is literally a cult initiation
>>60957180cringe women shit.>>60957233soul>>60957397i can't tell if this is sarcasm or not>>60958281kek
>>60964387>CringeThe female body can’t handle wagie jobs and white collar jobs. Even if they can, there is still a lot physical damage. Its just how it is. Thats why girls are on so many drugs and age so terribly. Even walking during work and getting to and from work is a lot of wear and tear.
>>60964369I almost mentioned that if they could legally make them get naked it would be exactly like a cult ritual. What the fuck?
>>60964420Naked is fine and normal. Make them wear goofy stuff is worse. I am comfortable being naked.
>>60963860I would kill this man. How can a white person behave like this, absolute filth
>>60964506Lmao. >muh white. Stop thinking youre so noble
>>60964110oh my god
>>60964343no problem here desu
>>60964507hahahah okay pajeet ahahahahhahahahaha HAHAHAHHAHA
>>60964425no wonder you feel comfortable naked in public, you aren't white hahahahah im dying
>>60964538? I look good naked.
>>60964534You literally live in a non- white country because there are no white countries anymore.
>>60959517>> >t. CPA making $450k/yearhow the fuck
>>60963865NGL, you fucked upThat guy loved what he did and would've been a great mentorProbably a new father figure
>>60964534>>60964538kek busted
>>60959464>>60963617>>60963701Pretty sure that's a union dance, and they're protesting for higher wages or some shit. If they spent all that time learning that "dance" working, they would probably be better off.
>>60957329pussy fag slaps and then runs for the door, typical bitch
>>60964369Damn, I need to get a job at Panda Express with some cuties.
>>60957637you'd have to pay me like $200k a year to stomach doing this shit
>>60963701Starvation and homeless are pretty good motivators.
>>60959461When a nigger does something so melinated you just have to hit em with that caucasian stare
>kpmg and deloitte are hiring women and soibois instead of actual accountants and analystsI'm never going to be hired there am I?
>>60957489CLEAN IT UP WAGIE>>60957494A lot of bosses at the lower end are usually only 5-10 years older than you, it's not like the 'old days' where your boss was some actual boomer.
I got laid off in the middle of last month, been living off 8 weeks severance and pto payout plus my savingsI don't think I can willingly get another job guys, if my crypto bags don't banana in the next few months I don't know what I'll do
>>60962781>*You* are the one selling your skills and labor. Any employer can choose to stop buying you at any time, it's just common sense. Just the same as you can choose to stop buying netflix or whatever other product at any time you like, because it's your money.Please kill yourself.
>>60962781You aren't really wrong, but this post hums with the energy of 6 million spinning dreidels
>>60963701money is the ultimate motivator
>>60964110he sharted
>>60963865I had a story just like this but not nearly as bad.>be me some broke 19 year old >try applying to jobs online but don't ever hear anything back >finally apply to a Toys R Us and get a call to go to the interview>a group of like 15 of us show up to the interview actually a pretty good mix of people of different ages>later find out we will be paid literal minimum wage and a few people walk>I was so desperate for a job that I stayed>later they tell us to go walk around the store and pick out a toy and tell us why it's your favorite >pick up a set of legoes and some black guy picks up a hulk plushie>would steal candy bars from the store when I worked there
>>60962149that is vile
>>60960241
>>60963652He's letting out his frustrations of the fluorescent lights, the fake politeness all while backstabbing occurs, the hoops to jump through especially when answers "Why this company" or "Why this job?" with an implied threat of "You tell the truth about doing it for money and we will not hire you!"
>>60957180>WAGIE CRINGE THREADI work for a Union.ya'll should too.
>>60957381Link to disciplinary hearing below. TLDR: she claimed to have a mental health issue and got off with a slap on the wrist. https://www.hrpa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Decision-and-Reasons-TS.pdf
>>60963657And I'd get treated as mentally ill for fearing working in a public facing role. No fucking way, maybe 15 years ago, but I just cannot take that chance for such a low wage and potentially poor treatment. I'd rather neet than work retail or fastfood. Their punishment was probably 15 years prison, a punishment too light. Nope it was even less! 10 years for one and 6 years for the other. And it seems one got some sort of credit to reduce her sentence.
>>60959461Kek based
>>60960241Become ungovernable
>>60958264This is true but only if your immediate superior and those immediately beneath you are all on the same page in terms of (a) your jobs being bullshit that require a couple hours of work max per day and (b) keeping the rest of the organization in the dark so the scam can continue. As soon as you get some walking hard on above you or some fucking striver(s) below you they sacrifice everyone’s comfiness on the altar of (((shareholder value))).
>>60963679Grim as fuck
>>60965223>human resources professional associationWtf is this?Are they a fucking union or something?
>>60962095Unironically companies offer shit like Better Health benefits to limit liability in the event of an employee suicide or workplace violence. It’s the same reason they do most of the shit they do to conspicuously recognize fags and minorities. It’s to point to in the event of a lawsuit.
>Imagine not being a lazy Union employee $54.55 an hour.Quarterly Inflation raises16% total raises to 2028.
>>60962655You can sue for wrongful termination under certain circumstances but it’s usually futile. If a company thinks the employee might have a viable wrongful termination claim they will generally offer them a severance package that requires the employee to waive all claims against the employer for a lump sum cash payment and sometimes also continuation of health benefits for a limited period. To the other anon’s point, this allows for more efficient allocation and scaling of labor, but also creates precariousness and results in low employee loyalty, high turnover, and lots of job hopping.
>>60963253There wasn't a game plan. It's why he's working at a half rate pizzeria
>>60963553
>>60965213The interview process is really bizarre when you think about it. By requiring candidates to be enthusiastic about your company’s “mission” and passionate about their “impact” you’re just screening for effective liars.
>>60964110How does wagie not smell it?
>>60965293Not quite a union. It’s Ontario’s HR Professional Association (HRPA). HRPA membership isn’t required to work in HR, but it’s the only way to earn bullshit certifications like CHRP or CHRL. While optional many large employers, government agencies, and unionized workplaces basically require them, making HRPA membership an unofficial requirement for senior HR jobs. They can disciple members for, eg, threatening the livelihoods of people on TikTok. Canadians love their fucking rules.
>>60964896You don't want to work there. Fuck big 4 and fuck accounting T. PwC "alumni", and I worked in the NYC office
>>60965488Guess I'll just use the finance part of my degree to bamboozle people into joining a paid discord.
>>60965399>By requiring candidates to be enthusiastic about your company’s “mission” and passionate about their “impact” you’re just screening for effective liars.Women don't want honest men they want a psychopath like bateman who makes their hrussy get ate.
>>60961436>went into hiding unironicallyThat's even funnier. I love it when crazy retard bitches like this realize that people are coming for them. Couldn't happen to a 'nicer' boomer lady.
>>60964896fuck the accounting. I got an accounting degree but got hired by a bank instead of an accounting firm I still make 100k in a rural area and I only work 40 hours a week.
>>60963553>WE WAZUNT GOINT TO TIP ANYWAY BUY WERZ GOT COLLEGE SO WE WRITE IT UP FANCY AND CLAIM RACISM CAUZ WHAT'S WE WERE TAUGHT IN ALL OUR CLASSEZ
>>60965537I also work at a bank but in a wagie position. What's a good 100k a year bank job? Auditor? I can audit /biz/tards cheating on their taxes.
>>60965546I worked my way up a few years in credit underwriting. I got roughly a $10k raise every year by just staying with the same company. It's very easy math, basically financial statement and ratio analysis analysis. At first the wage is shit, but you can climb quick if you're good at it. Usually the others in that job are business majors so you can stand out if you know finance/accounting.
>>60965546Should have gone into IT>6 figures just administrating end user login accounts>moving to updating servers and apps in OctoberI'll be making $150k+, max is $250k
>>60965573How do I get into this?
>>60965578Get an IT degree and 15 years of experience. Firm handshake too.
>>60965488>be Big 4>baffled why people don’t want to work investment bank hours for 1/10 the compThe sooner these dinosaurs are extinct the better
>>60964590Die
>>60957447I could probably still shit on that for an hour desu.
>>60963701Are you stupid or something? The ones that don't cooperate get fired. The employment process eventually filters out the ones who won't cooperate.
>>60957468Imagine using normie media. Got what he deserves.
>>60967194I agree somewhat, but not every walmart does this. t. I worked at Walmart during summers
>>60965785Is that a fuckin alien in front of KPMG?
>>60963553>thyself
but are all the wagie stuff from the USA? is there any in the EU?
>>60964343Did this (sans ketchup) to a great waiter on vacation once, I think at a Bubba Gump's. I'm sure he'll always remember my crazy family. And we stole the coronarita holder.
>>60957397