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>be me working abroad (not my choice)
>yesterday I had the opportunity to cheat on my wife
>with what could literally be my actual soul mate
>I declined and went clean and said I can't do this to her she doesn't deserve this
>this morning my phone blew up my wife just shouted at me with all the kids problems and how I wasn't there and that she supported my career but I wasn't even delivering as much as she thought I would

For a second I almost wanted to hang up and run back to yesterday's girl. I didn't. I calmed her down and talked to my kids.

I don't know what to do guys. This job is making me a lot of money but I'm growing apart from my wife, we already had issues but now it's getting worse.
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>>60969460
I wish she wasnt insane, but good luck finding one who's not faking sanity.
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>>60969467
Yes you're correct I finally realised she is crazy last year. During one of her episode she started shouting at me then the kids and wouldn't stop and almost hurt the kids I protected them. They were asleep she woke them up to shout at them. I got her a psychanalyst but she onky did two sessions and quit. I don't know what to do
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>>60969460
Power through if you can. Our women are sincerely brain fucked but its likely the brownoid has similar, if not worse intentions. Unless there are underlying issues that indicate your wife is broken... power through and put her in line.
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>>60969480
Oh ok... she sounds maybe fucked. Watch some Richard Grannon and Sam Vaknin on youtube and make sure you're not dealing with a cluster B. Study it hard and determine the best course if action. If you need to exit, be strong.
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>>60969460
>with what could literally be my actual soul mate
what makes you say that? shes pretty and was nice to you in a handful of interactions?
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>>60969460
>>with what could literally be my actual soul mate
In which OP fails to learn from experience
Just fuck a prostitute you idiot and stop thinking with your dick otherwise you'll end up broke and several times divorced
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>>60969486
>>60969491
>>60969492
Thanks guys. Not denying I might be thinking with my dick. But for context this girl is white from the same country as me working abroad as well. She's a bit older than me and got out of a long term relationship a few years ago that went bad. So she is calm and logical and understands what I'm going through. She's not even that pretty but I find her cute and gentle and reassuring

>>60969490
I think she just doesn't fair well under pressure. She is nice most of the time, it's just when things get too difficult, men lock up and power through, she just blows up in everyone face.
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>>60969502
>She's a bit older than me and got out of a long term relationship a few years ago that went bad
Major red flags waving in anons face and he can't see because he is desperate for non borderline human interaction
Have fun being financially extracted anon
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>>60969460
>>60969492

Shit, very similar stuff happened to me.. I tried to be as cool as possible and still do but there is a chance stuff will shatter if you don't play it cool.

>>60969492
Avoid fucking a prostitute, they are nasty.

Stay discreet and bare with her attitude as long as you can.

I separated and I was overly generous with the mother of my child, but at the expense of my own comfort and lost my job while I was in a career I really liked.

Now I have to almost reset my life and start over but I'll find someone else who is more supportive, simply nice and also fuckable, because being toyed with only to end up blue balled while still functional isn't exactly a fantasy of mine.
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>>60969502
>she is calm and logical
For now
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>>60969502
Just study, if you're dealing with an NPD type you want out for sure. If not,.you can make it work. Figure this out. The two youtube channels I recommended should help tremendously.
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Text your wife like a fuck boy she would eventually replace you with if you don't text your wife like a fuck boy
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>>60969460
why did you get married? seems like an extreme amount of risk to financial, mental, and emotional wellbeing with virtually no upside
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>Man fails to see he's making the same mistake episode 673
Anon, you once felt your wife was your soul mate.
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>>60969531
Ok thank you anon I will study this. But anyway even of she was sick I couldn't run away and leave the kids with her. And the judge would never let me have them

>>60969517
>>60969520
Maybe if you weren't that fucking elusive and smug about it I'd understand your point

>>60969539
>>60969549
It wasn't like that at first, we fell in love in uni. She was a totally different person at the time
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Sext your wife, she's sexually frustrated and taking it out on everyone
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>>60969591
Not everything is about sex anon. Are issues run way deeper than that. But thanks for the advice. Also I don't think sexting would be a thing for us, she would find it awkward (me too)
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>>60969460
Good man, you did the right thing. I mean it, not many would be able to have that level of self control, and presence of mind.

Also, women that usually hit on you when you are married are quick to leave if you fall for them, I've seen it happen to my married friends. Some women just get off the idea of being able to steal a man off another woman, but once they get it, its over.
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>>60969567
This. Came here to post this.
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>>60969591
Do this or someone else will. Same dynamic with your new "soul mate" : a gulp of air drowning in daily living
>>60969957
it is for you. it is for her too. WAKE UP Anon. Its this way for everyone until a out age 60.
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>>60969460
Did you at least take contacts from the new woman so that you can contact her later?

Anyways i don’t believe that soulmates exist, how can you be so sure after just meeting her? I’m doubtful of the whole monogamy thing. You can have loads of friends but just one lover for your whole life? When romance is just an extension of friendship with the sex you fancy? Sounds retarded. The only angle that true monogamy love myth makes sense from is that it was used to placate masses of men into working and providing soldiers, and a lot of cope was build upon that social system.

So no, you didn’t find your soulmate but neither is your wife one. You just found two women you clicked with and it’s completely natural.
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>>60969502
>I think she just doesn't fair well under pressure. She is nice most of the time, it's just when things get too difficult, men lock up and power through, she just blows up in everyone face.
This is actually common to some personality types. Is she usually bubbly, dreamer and optimistic? Those types when frustrated can really ruin the mood for everyone
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>>60969460
Take the hit and lose everything getting divorced and leave it all in the rearview mirror. Sell it all. Forget the new one as well, it’s a trap.
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Feel bad for you anon, but it's stories like yours that make me never marry any of my girlfriends. These women change at the turn of a dime, can't trust them.

Hold strong, brother, if u need to exit, exit.
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refusing to get married is the best financial advice you will ever receive
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>>60970122
Shut the fuck up, there are couples that get along well enough, even wealthy ones.

Trial and error until you get what you want.
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i can solve your problem anon
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>>60970113
I wouldn't say bubbly but yes she's usually nice and gets very happy sometimes. When there's too much pressure and things get tough and she lashes out she starts arguing in circle, asking the same question over and over again, complaining about the same old stuff (the delivery of our second kid was really tough and she always mention this when she has an episode) and she says no one knows how much she does and how hard it is for her.

But she's not that bad, then once the episode is over and the kids are in bed and everything calms down she apologises profusely, sometimes I won't accept her apology but she will not let it go and continues apologising until I accept it.

>>60970133
Thank you anon
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>>60970160
That and putting a made it bag in a trust so its safe from predation once you cross a certain net worth
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>>60969460
Work it out. Stand up for yourself. She could also be right about things that you need to change, marriage is about compromise, but not about giving yourself up completely l
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>>60969569
Its a long road, but delending on your state of residence and judge you will lilely get 50/50 custody. It might be better off that way. With my ex it is, she made our house a nightmare, screaming and pushing me in front of our kid all the time, had to leave. If shit is crazy like that start recording it and gather as much evidence as you can before divorce. It sucks either way, gotta think about what sucks worse, especially for the kids. If they grow up thinking that is normal they will likely seek and find shitty relationships as well.
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>>60969460
I’m never going to have kids, that must suck OP. You probably should’ve tried to sleep with the other girl and then just told your wife she wasn’t delivering as much as her.
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>>60969460
Most men cheated on their wife in history, and women honestly don't care unless you develop something beyond sex with the broads. If it's just fuckmeat women don't care because they do not feel threatened
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>>60969467
Heres the catch:
Theyre all faking sanity
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>>60969490
>make sure you're not dealing with a cluster B.
what if you are dealing with Cluster B?
what do I do?
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>>60970327
Hi. Detach emotionally and regard them as a wild animal that happens to be in your environment. You don't have to hate them or treat them with malice, but you do not recognize or validate them. They are an animal that does whatever that animal does.
And then be rid of them if they can't behave.
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you want the no bullshit answer? life sucks and choices have consequences, there are tradeoffs and making money but leaving your wife as a single parent is a big one. You did the right thing, thats a good start. keep in mind that if your wife finds out there's a good chance sex will cost you 70-90% of your current net worth and 30-70% of it until all kids are 18. If you make even ok money that's 7 figures minimum.

Money
Happy life
Kids \ marriage successful

Pick 2
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>>60970338
>And then be rid of them if they can't behave.
But that is the case 100% of the time no?

>>60970339
money and happy life please
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>>60969957
it is . Women are literal biological cum deposits, what do you think happens to a thing that loses its purpose?
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I've always dreamed about having a wife but this thread is making me depressed. Do women really go crazy after you marry them and/or they pop out kids? I have 7 figures and cannot risk losing half on a divorce because the woman I love suddenly goes batshit crazy.
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>>60970287
I'd suggest to learn about personality typologies like MBTI, they can explain a lot of people's idiosyncrasies and how they act under certain situations, what triggers them, causes them discomfort etc. It may be popularly known through internet tests but the theory is solid and good. Look up C S Joseph he has good content

People as a whole vary limitlessly but the number of personalities is fixed by law, which means you must be one type and she another and once both of you learn each other's weaknesses the relationship should flow more smoothly. We all have certain weaknesses that we seek compensation in our partners
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>>60970358
Yes they all go a bit crazy due to hormonal imbalances after they pop out a couple kids.
Im married to my wife going on 9 years and now and im finding that she loves to use my money. It kinda sucks. But she is kind to me... but sometimes she just is completely irrational and it takes a full day for her to get over some bullshit.
I dunno man. I wouldn't change my life simply because of my kids but sometimes I wish I could go back to being single and playing music on the road and just banging hot sluts every week instead.
A lot less to worry about
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>>60970374
>im finding that she loves to use my money
not worth it.

>But she is kind to me
How?
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>>60970358
It’s just women in general. They can’t handle their emotions
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>>60970358
why would you be depressed? sometimes getting what you -think- you want is the worst thing that could happen to you. youve learned something today that will save you from a torturous hell-reality. ought to thank God out loud and be grateful
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>>60969460
>with what could literally be my actual soul mate
>letting your soul mate just go so you can stay with some tarded cunt you hate
kek ngmi
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>>60970417
nigga he is already married with kids.

he is going to be paying child support for the rest of his life and will be waging forever.
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>>60970195
Yeah like Bill and Melinda Gates
or Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos
Oh w8
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>>60970422
>actually paying the child support
kek, just dont pay it.
become officially unemployed and work under the table.
abandon the old family and make a new one.
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>>60970431
>become officially unemployed and work under the table.
no good jobs pay under the table anon unless it's sketchy.

not worth it imo, just have to be selective in who you marry
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>>60970431
Not how it works. You dont pay it you go to jail, dumbass
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>>60970434
so do the sketchy jobs, all worth it for your soul mate.
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>>60970479
you never answer how your wife is kind to you?

How does it mitigate the $1000s she spends per month?
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>>60970374
Hmm I may need a woman that does not want kids...
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>>60970322
Interesting take.. Not sure if valid but that could justify finding another mate.
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>>60969460
Cheat on her ass! Daddy needs to be happy! She already cheated on you hence her irrational drama, she will confess she cheated on you already because she felt scared/alone/etc and IT WILL BLAME IT ON YOU! Fuck marriage/loyalty/morals! The strong man takes whatever pussy he can get! Monogamy is a bad joke for pussies!
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>>60970618
You're weird.
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>>60969460
And yet every day niggers on here mock me for not wanting a wife and kids. So glad I got the snip
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>>60969460
>marriage
>investment
Pick one.
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>>60970633
you got a vagina?
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>>60969460
get a divorce.
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>>60969460
>could have cheated but didn't
good
>married a crazy woman
yikes OP, i understand you
i had a relationship with a crazy woman who had BPD, sadly you can't help them
i had to leave and move on
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If a women catches you cheating she will only leave if you're supplicating to her apologizing and asking for forgiveness. You look weak in that moment and views you as less than because you cheated for someone that gave you validation you were lacking, not necessarily someone you choose or seduced.

It you're someone who makes decent money, carries self with self respect, in decent shape, regularly leads and puts her in her place etc then women will accept cheating because they don't want to loose a real man and a man does what a man does.

There can't be guilt on your end, not saying you have to be an asshole but nothing dries up women like a pampering nice guy. If this is confusing and not making sense congratulations, that's women
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>>60970718
This. Probably she will be flattered that another foid wants her man and would love the drama anyway
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>>60969460
Nigger you have kids. That means the wife is all you get now. Why would you risk your kid's future by blowing up you marriage?

Suck it up and communicate with your wife, you're both committed. She has all the right ot know you're about to fuck her over, ahead of time.
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>>60969569
>It wasn't like that at first, we fell in love in uni. She was a totally different person at the time
OP, you mentioned you have children together. Do you know about how long after you met her did she go off birth control (assuming she was on it when you both met)?
The reason I ask is because BC can completely rewire women's natural mating preferences...

Another thing.
May I ask her age? Is it possible she's going through menopause but hasn't revealed details to you?
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>>60969957
>she would find it awkward (me too)
Maybe that's just what she needs: an awkward shakeup.
Literally just text her this:
>Hey babe. I feel like you're stressed and I want to help. So I want your legs spread before the time I open the door, ready for my tongue. I'm eating you out as soon as I get home.
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>>60970718
lol, reminds me of when I was 18. I had 4 gf's at same time and they all found out about eachother. All started going ape shit at me (understandable) but I just said nothing, like just saying **okay okay, yeh okay**. 10 minutes later, they start fighting eachother.

I ended up picking just one girlfriend in the end and was with her maybe 5 years? This XP changed my perception tottally, I just didn't care about girls that much just wanted money (all girls met though my company basically, though not my employees ofc)
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>>60970358
Yes, just dont' marry them. Like I dont' understand why men want to give away their most powerful tool in controlling women, the power to walk away...

It's so simple kek.
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>>60970618
I don’t get what monogamy has to do with morals. You’re not a bad person for having multiple dear friends but you’re a bad person for having multiple lovers?
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>>60969467
This, except no sane women exist. I wish I had known this earlier
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>>60971092
What would you have done differently?
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>>60971040
cuck
>it's different when I do it
keep telling yourself that.
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>>60969460
No cheating is a question of personal morality, do it for your own peace of mind not for the sake of your wife.

>>60969460
Go back to your family, what's the point of making money if you don't even see your kids growing up?
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>>60971109
You see sex as a way too big of a deal.
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>>60969460
Your wife has genuine problems and you should get her to acknowledge them and help her out. Move back in with her also. Be careful with these career women, they know exactly what they're doing. If your fortune falters they won't look in your direction again. You owe it to yourself to take care of your family.
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>>60971128
Morality is a spook
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>>60969460
>>60969480
You're married with kids so you have to keep building what you started. Divorce or infidelity WILL make things worse for you and for your kids especially.

Your only hope is to help your wife become a better person. The fact that you have Ryan Gosling pics saved on your computer tells me it is going to be difficult for you to take the lead. But you've got to learn.
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I don't understand how guys get into these nightmare mode marriages. How long were you with her before proposing? Weren't there any signs?
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>>60971589
Only if you have some kind of brain anomaly, for normal people morality is something that imposes itself to you at the chemical level, if you violate your morality you WILL be punished.
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>>60971894
*cracks Zero Ultra*

Nephew, have a seat and listen up.

Marriage is a good thing. It is also very challenging. Going through "nightmare mode" is part of the deal. We all deal with it. Ask your dad. But if you picked the right woman, then it is just a season that comes and goes. It comes back too. But it goes again. Uhh... what was I saying?

Oh yeah. You gotta beat the game on nightmare mode or else you are just a casual.

*sips*
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>>60971137
Sex is a huge deal, Anon. Its why we do anything and everything. Without it and procreation, life is an utterly meaningless exercise in hedonism and pain tolerance until you die. It has everything to do with moral fiber and your character, thusly, that you control yourself and select mates that you can live with, raise children with, and remain loyal to.

I think your moral center is just shot to hell because you live in a shithole surrounded by awful people, Anon.



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