treasury insider heresell your stockssell you bondssell your cryptobuy foreign assetsbuy PMbuy chinese bondsyou can thank me later
is this chink propaganda?
>>60971091please elaborate
Nintendo insider here. Clinging is the cause of suffering, have a good day.
>>60971091u know the drill anon, we're gonna need some of them proofs b4 we stop weaving our baskets
>>60971179>>60971217absolutely
>>60971171You're clueless lemming if you can't see for yourself
>>60971091Why would you believe, here, of all places, you could just claim to be an insider, with no proof?
>>60971332I really shouldn't be showing this
>>60971342this is capital flow analysis from the USWe are royally fucked this time
I love emerging market bonds, way ahead of you dawg
>>60971352I won't show the realtime data, but you can look at auctions to see for your self. Basically the world is actually getting off the dollar and we can't do anything without causing a major problem. We are way to over leveraged. This looks like some african shithole now. Everyone is panicking
>>60971342what does that show?
>>60971378capital is leaving our economy. This means inflation like no one here has seen before. Our system is based on growth, that is fed by capital. And we can't even raise rates to incentivize saving, because we will be blamed for everything.
>>60971382isn't high inflation good for the price of fartcoin?
>>60971091what tickers?
>>60971367The funny thing is people will blame Trump for this because he's so public about his moves when in reality it was Biden, well not Biden but his FP team. Not that I like Trump at all and he certainly hasn't helped, but Blinken was the one who started all of this with his imperialism.
>>60971342why is the y-axis flipped?>>60971382why not transform the series into a stationary processes?
>>60971382this is way over my head
>>60971382Sorry chud I've got a ultra low interest mortgage I'm cheering for hyper inflation
>>60971394>This isn't Drumph's fault, it was LE BIDEN.kys
>>60971382I'm not American, I'm just invested in some stocks from there. Why should I care about inflation? It doesn't matter if it eats 10% real gains if the remaining yearly return is 20%.
>>60971367Is that really big spike Covid spending?
Why shuold I sell bitcoin
>>60971352Ya think?
>>60971652because it just follows the Nasdaq, I think
>>60971091>buy chinese bondsNice try, Chang
>>60971091>buy PMBased knower.
bullish for xrp
>>60971394Holy keke, your god cultist drumpf literally broke the U.S. free trade petrodollar regime that’s been in place 50 years retard
>>60971367What do you think will happen to the value of foreign currencies, not dependent on the value of the dollar, when this catastrophe unfolds? Chinese yuan or the Russian ruble for instance.
>>60971352So yeah, that gives a good idea of what money velocity has been. I remember how hot the economy got before the 2008 crisis. They have basically thrown us in a silent depression ever since. They are getting ready to print, and money velocity is going to the moon, isn't it?
>>60971367What would be actions for Europoors to both support the US (or her people) and profit from it?
>>60971918You have similar debt problems, lesser scale but it likewise is effecting bond auctions of some countries and will have domino effects across the eu. You may not have capital flight but you didn't have capital as we did to begin with and spread amongst many smaller countries. Our economic demise will effect you as it has previously. I'd focus on personal survival for anyone in the west. PMs over crypto because it can't be seized without armed police and it's still being sought in Asia.
>>60971382Looking at the first chart here, of foreign investment inflows vs outflows, it's clear you guys shouldn't have went nuts during covid, and shouldn't have started a fucking war. I blame the liberal globalists that just had to start some shit war instead of trying to actually compete economically. Right at 2020, investors pulled their money. Making America great again means we need to stop trying to fight the whole world and get back to a real economy.
Dollars are shit I'm thinking about buying Swiss bonds to weather the next 3 months or so thoughts?
>triple M2>ratios go wacknothingburger
>>60971382Im currently fully tethered, where should i park my usdt?
>>60971171Is gold Chinese?
>>60971382Looking at the chart that says, Capital flow volatility, and economic instability analysis, it looks like they have a choice to make. If they print to devalue the dollar, they will need to give people a monthly stimulus check to compensate them so they can also pay their debt down. Basically a jubilee. If they take the other option of just keeping cutting rates back to 0, not printing, cutting spending, then we are looking at a 20 year long great depression. Looking at the chart you see high volatility after they printed, and then a depressed economy for 10 years. They printed again in 2020, and I guess we are in for 10 to 20 years of an even more depressed economy, if they try to salvage our monetary system, like they have been.
>>60971771good post
>China>bonds>when Chinese M2 looks like thisLying bastard OP. If the US has a true, dollar-ending financial crisis, every other overleveraged currency faces armageddon.
>>60971382>40+ year uptrend in volatility index>High Volatility threshold that seems to have been defined by whatever happened in the year 2008we can get much MUCH sillier
>>60971771This is always the dumbest post because we could actually adopt bitcoin as a global currency.>heheh goy, we made this to trick you and y->hey no, you were just supposed to speculate!Certified room temperature IQ post
Looks like OP bailed on us. Damn shame. He could have at least stuck around to answer a few questions.
>>60972130Engagement builds momentum, and momentum drives growth. That’s exactly what we see with #MORICOIN right now.
>>60971091I fucking hate insider larp niggers so much it's unreal.At least give proof you fucking super omega nigger.
>>60972130China is literally building a petroyuan regime though Kek this is how people can even dump USD in the first place. They have fully flushed out markets the past decade in China.
>>60972259Fantasy builds interest, and interest drives speculation. That's exactly what we see with #FANTASYFARTSCOIN right now.
>>60972320If it's a LARP, it's a pretty damn good one. I'm saving some of those charts he posted.
>>60972328Trusted money is valuable when shown to be worthless? That's not how money works. You literally just said it will lose value too just maybe not as much. You don't understand what you type, chang.
>>60972353Do you not know how bonds work or are you just coping that your favorite Orangutang in chief isn’t actually serving China a massive slice of global financial flows on a silver platter
>>60972369And what? People are going to put their money in Yuan? Euros? Stop playing dude.
>>60972385Rubles? I bet that goes up after the war fizzles out.
>>60972328>China is literally building a petroyuan regime thoughNot figuratively?
>>60971342HOLY SHIT.
>>60972385If by you mean yuan and euro denominated assets then yes.
>>60972419My ass dude
>>60971367They just found out on Sunday night?
>>60972416Literally.
>>60972416existentially
>>60972433This was like the easiest outcome to predict of caving into the Chinese multipolar political sphere. Anyone who is shocked that Trump killing the global dollar hegemony is bad for the U.S. is a retard.
good thread.>>60972416radically
>>60971537That's what happens during a stimi bonus. Not during a crash. During a crash like what is coming stocks flatline and everyone flees to safe havens.
>>60972448>you don’t understand, everyone is going to side with a one-party-state country that doesn’t even publish legitimate economic data instead of waiting three years for Trump to leaveI actually wish something happened. I’m so bored. But you’re not serious.
>>60972436Hasn't changed much. Remains in the range of 80% like previous years. Countries that aren't America want to partially reduce their dependence on USD, but they have no interest in getting off the petro-dollar. How can China have a petro-yuan, and therefore an alternative global currency, without a trade deficit?China manages its exchange rate through strict capital controls. If you want to exchange yuan for a foreign currency, each citizen has a strict and low annual exchange limit. Foreigners have a lower limit and a daily cap. This makes it difficult to get US dollars in exchange for yuan.China knows they can't manage their currency and keep exchange rates stable while also being a global reserve currency, because having the global reserve currency creates extraordinary demand for your currency and, in practice, a constant deficit. If China made the yuan fully convertible, wouldn't they need to double their M1 every 10 years to supply the external demand of the (theoretical) new reserve currency? If so, how can China do that without imploding?
>>60972486That has to literally be the only thing keeping the dollar from ruin. The fact that China doesn't want to destroy it's real economy to have a resurvey currency. They could literally do it over night, if they wanted to go down that road. On the other hand, China has lots of things people want to buy so wouldn't those counties trading with China just turn around and give the money back to them in exchange for goods?
>>60972486>how can China have an alternate global currency without a deficitBy having partial or full commodity/gold convertibility>If China made the yuan fully convertible, wouldn't they need to double their M1 every 10 years to supply the external demand of the (theoretical) new reserve currency? If so, how can China do that without imploding?I don’t know if I understand this, what’s wrong with that, more demand necessitates printing yes. But again they seem keen to provide a gold/commodity backed currency for global trade. >>60972471Don’t get me wrong I do not think this will be happening immediately, but I think certainly the tariffs have been at best the start of the end, and am 100% serious, waiting 4 years does not reverse the damage to global trade and corporations that has been done
>>60972521Why have they been trying so hard with belt and road then to build out the financial infrastructure in Africa for their own market and currency.
>>60972537>By having partial or full commodity/gold convertibilityA gold backed RMB is enticing for many countries, but China would still have to hard start demand for RMB. If it makes tangible headway, it will take at least 20+ years, and RMB denominated loans to Belt and Road countries will be playing a big part for the next decade. But it's a moot point anyway, and China's CIPS depends on the RMB. >what’s wrong with that, more demand necessitates printing yesIn the context of its current trade setup, it would be disastrous.
>>60972521You might be taken away by the prospect of the USD collapsing, but that would be most disastrous for China, Russia and the others alike. Nobody has a viable alternative to the USD as a global reserve currency, and even if there was one nobody shows any interest in using it, which often comes down to simple reasons like not trusting the Chinese with anything, or past experience with Russians in not upholding their end of trade deals, and the list goes on. Any discontent with the USD can be backstopped by not using it for some transactions, but nowhere near enough to justify getting off the USD alttogether. The US petrodollar continues working well enough, the debt doesn't matter because the US can't run out of USD, and modern monetary policy will become increasingly popular until it leads to disaster, but it'll hold and that is what counts.
>>60971091>sell your cryptoOP is telling us that money velocity is going to acccelerate by printing, but is telling you to sell assets that inflate when the dollar inflates.He's not an insider he's another /pmg/ boomer. He didn't even tell you to buy 3x gold miner etfs to make it, he says "pump 80yo men's bags". Fuck you, faggot.Total /pmg/ger death.
>>60971978A real economy literally would mean fighting the world by bringing our factories back, you little keynesian twat.
>>60972554China doesn't have to back the RMB with gold because they already manufacture just about every thing another country would want to buy. Their money is backed by their manufacturing base, and as soon as some country sells them some resources, they will most likely turn around and give the money back to China in exchange for goods.
>>60971978Also>you guys>weFuck off europoor, fuck off.
>>60972554>China would still have to hard start demand for RMBWould not a disruptive trading environment for USD provide that demand? >In the context of its current trade setup, it would be disastrous.Why is this? Genuinely curious, especially if they just go full gold convertibility what’s the difference to them if everyone buys their goods with gold instead of USD?
>>60972188The actual reason it's stupid is that I'll just kill boomers with gold, with my gun, if things go tits up.The /pmg/tard has this weird notion that rules-based societies continue after monetary collapse and they'll just become the new billionaires with no effort, rather than mad max.
>>60972343>it's a good one because he found some publicly available data and reposted itFaggot.
>>60972551That's just it. It's not their currency holding them back from trading without the USD, it's access to markets. The US strategy is to cut them off from trading with others by sea or land routes. Of course, I want to see manufacturing coming back to the US too. Having our economy built on finance has been devastating to that average American.
>>60972571You have me wrong, fren. I don't want to see the complete collapse of the USD. More like a level playing field or parity with other major world powers. I want this country to become a manufacturing giant again so people can have good jobs, afford homes, and families. Competition is a good thing, and the world needs it as a natural checks and balances that was lost after the Soviet Union collapsed.
>>60972593Thank you for bringing your high intellect into this thread. Our conversation wouldn't be the same without your profound contributions.
>>60972581>Their money is backed by their manufacturing baseThat is false, which is aside from the the fact that the yuan is backed by the USD, hence why the former is pegged to the latter.>Would not a disruptive trading environment for USD provide that demand?Not really. Nobody wants to use the yuan regardless. >what’s the difference to them if everyone buys their goods with gold instead of USD?Having a reserve currency means that other countries use your currency for the majority of their reserves, thus bringing enormous demand for the global reserve currency. Once a country establishes their currency as a major reserve currency, it inherently leads to a currency outflow as the world demands that currency in order to conduct trade.To become a reserve currency for global trade, you must deal with the Triffin paradox.Currencies can choose two of the three options: 1. Fixed exchange rate.2. Free flow of capital.3. Independent monetary policy.Most countries choose options 2 and 3.A global currency needs an ongoing trade deficit in the issuing country. A trade deficit involves exporting the currency and importing products.China has a trade surplus, meaning they import foreign currencies and export products. Yuan can be used to pay for goods to some degree because the seller will use them to buy Chinese products, most of which are commodities, but it's not a direct exchange.
>>60972597But the entire point of being the reserve currency is that your reach into markets is permeating. China cannot trade on their currency if they do not have liquid markets where countries MUST purchase oil/food/ect. Using RMB, and at least in modern economies with floating currencies debt provides the demand for that currency. Therefore I don’t think China can compete with the USD and its market reach as is.
>>60972609>a level playing field or parity with other major world powersAmerica is the floor, anyone below that floor is in that postiion due to their own actions. It's up to others to raise their standards.And there is not competition to be had with "other world powers". Just look at tariffs, which all the other "world powers" used (still use) against the US for not particular reason other than their own greed. And yet when the US attempts to establish a fair trade balance with others, it gets catagated by them even though tariffs can be used to correct market distortions and level the playing field with unscrupulous states and businesses (all of whom just happen to be asian and african states).
>>60972639The Yuan is pegged to the USD to keep it weak, that way the are competitive when they export. If they dropped the peg, the Yuan would actually increase in value because they manufacture so many goods. I've been wondering if that is the real reason for the weaponized tariffs, to break other counties from pegging to our dollar.
>>60972660>If they dropped the peg, the Yuan would actually increase in valueWhich China doesn't want, because their economy depends on a trade surplus.
>>60972660>I've been wondering if that is the real reason for the weaponized tariffs, to break other counties from pegging to our dollar.The US dollar has more than 60 national currencies pegged to it, making it the most centralized currency in the world.
>>60972652>even though tariffs can be used to correct market distortions and level the playing field with unscrupulous states and businessesWe are in agreement on this. They are trying to break the Chinese peg.
>>60972639With the triffin dilemma answer I don’t see how China being the reserve currency with a currency pegged to gold at a fixed rate would majorly change their economy. Currently they can print if their exchange rate appreciates or if it falls they can sell off USD reserves to bring it back up, what’s the difference really if they sell off gold instead?
>>60972792Gold has an inherent supply they can't control.
>>60972814Yes, but they can’t control the supply of USD either
>>60972855But the supply of the USD is controlled, it's not a natural resource with inherent limitations to accessing it.
>>60971394This was set in motion a century ago, look into the bretton woods sytstem and the glass steagall act.
I swear that there is some kind of google AI reading my posts on here. I ask on here questions about the value of currencies broken away from the dollar system, and then open youtube. One of the first videos I get is an AI created video called, "What If BRICS Currency REPLACE the US Dollar?". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJT4BgoJCwY
>>60972912I’m not following. Currently China benefits from trade by devaluing the RMB against the dollar, keeping the exchange rate low. How would switching to a world where gold backed RMB is low and China keeps it artificially low devaluing against gold be a massive change?
>>60972965What's the point when it brings about the same result?
>>60972982But then they can be the reserve currency and generate demand for their nations currency markets, while retaining their net exporter status. It’s what we did after Breton woods almost, with the Marshall plan and being the worlds main exporting nation. I don’t think being the reserve currency has to be disastrous like that.
>>60972999>t then they can be the reserve currency and generate demand for their nations currency marketsWhere do they get that much gold (since every yuan would need to be backed by a concomitant amount of gold)? How do you continue expanding the reserve currency when its supply is limited by however much gold there is?
>>60973009It’s no different than how they do USD reserves now. If there’s more demand for RMB you sell RMB to buy gold, if there’s falling demand then you sell gold to buy RMB. Since you’re a net exporting nation you can always devalue the exchange rate if your currency is appreciating too much.
>>60971091>buy chinese bondsGot you!Only a complete moron would give even one cent to the CCP.Good try Xi
>>60971091>buy PMWhich prime minister should I ape into?
>>60971091>>60971342>>60971367Listen, useless college fag kid academic. Nobody gives a fuck about your economy class python homework.
>>60972574I sure hope so. I haven't been cashing out my crypto because it getting to even 1/10th of what I hope will allow me to get more PMs.
