Comfy threads lately, edition.>Why Gold & Silver?https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiIhttps://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_Ahttps://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitablehttps://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos>Bullion dealershttps://libertycoin.com/(US)https://www.chards.co.uk/(EU/UK)https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/(Ancient)https://www.luciteria.com/(Other rare metals)https://www.ma-shops.com/ (Numismatics)https://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/ (US)https://stoutgold.co/ (US)https://www.aydincoins.com/ (US)https://prospectorsgoldandgems.com/ (US)more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE>Numismatic searchhttps://en.numista.com/catalogue/https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/>News and graphshttps://numismag.com/en/home-en/https://silverseek.com/https://www.silverdoctors.com/https://www.mining.com/https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silverhttps://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-countryhttps://wtfhappenedin1971.com/>Comparehttps://findbullionprices.com/(US)https://eu.compare.pm/(EU)https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/(DE/EU)>Resourceshttps://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/https://www.coinflation.com/http://coinapps.com/https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK>Prospectinghttps://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoMhttps://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/sciencehttps://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-mineralshttps://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping testhttps://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTohttps://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVYhttps://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-khttps://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-databasePrevious Thread: >>60999632
I sold my night vision scope and bought a gold chain
>>61001666CheckedPMG and CMMG have minted millionaires on 4chan this year.
>>61001675Oof
just bought these two dollars at a flea market for melt Its some old boomer who comes here every Saturday and shows of his coin collection and sells a few pieces every now and then
>>61001678I live in suburban NY, no need for it, I got it 3 years ago and barely used it just collected dust. A rifle or pistol with a bright white light and a red dot is all I need.
>>61001706You say that like the power is always going to be on. But don't get me wrong I'm tempted to sell one of my older PVS-7s, but never the 14.
>>61001677>cmmgdont lie and dont compare the two; they arent even close to being the same asset class
>>61001684get those tested. little old ladys at those things will lie through their fucking teeth to make a sale
>>61001713brother, if all you have is 100k or even 500k dollars, you gamble it all on mining stocks, naturally. But if you already have a lot of money, and you don't want to lose everything and put it all at risk, you buy some gold and silver. Personally this year I have made more on mining stocks, but a lot of people have made more on gold and silver than on mining stocks, but a lot of folks own a lot more gold and silver than equities.
Reminder that silver is not a precious metal, it's what you pay the servants of satan with and it will return to being worthless after a panic cycle is over like every time it has done so in the past.>>61001030Every single one of those uses for the real precious metals is because they don't deteriorate even in corrosive high heat environments and in the case of many of them actually catalyze oxidation reactions.
>>61001712If the lights go off neither you nor I will live through it without God, so the larp is useless. I trust in God, not some high tech toys.
>>61001725>silver is not a precious metalYou can lie to yourself all you want.
>>61001736Good luck.In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
>>61001748Do you want society to collapse? Just curious what your ideology is. It sounds like you’re going out of your way to be able to shoot people in the dark.
>>61001750>going out of your way to be able to shoot people in the darkYes. Because there might be other people out there who want to shoot me in the dark.Maybe God told me to buy NODs. Maybe the devil told you to sell yours...
>>61001725reminder that fiat money is not precious currency, it's a mere copy of a currency made by the servants of satan and it will return to being worthless after the fiat experiment is over and we will return to a precious metal backed currency like for the vast majority of currencies past.
>>61001722>make money on mining stocksyou are a god damned liar
>>6100175410 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.If I die it is God’s will, not satan’s. You believe a demon can have power over others, in violation of the first commandment?
>>61001717Thanks for your concern but hes a legitimately seller and i bought stuff from him for awhile now I measured and weighed them and they are real silverUsually i buy a Roman coin from him and he adds a dollar for 30 euros or so as a bonus I originally wanted to buy another Roman coin but he didn't have the two i need for my collection Nerva and Marcus Aurelius so i bought two dollars for 65 Euro
>>61001684those look nice
>>61001763There's nothing pmg baggies hate more than people who make huge gains,,,,lmao ,,,,it's because they never will make a profit,,,wage,,,buy rocks,,,die,,,,is their motto
>>61001755Reminder that governments can't spend forever if money is real and so they will never let it be real again. The only change that's coming is that instead of the US moving 'gold' from cage to cage in fort knox for transactions between countries, china will be moving 'gold' from cage to cage in their own copy of fort knox.
>>61001763lol I have positions up 400% and i went heavy into them. Major mining companies! 2 years ago they were free.
>>61001666Thank you for baking and they are comfy:)
>>61001772>You believe a demon can have power over othersUhhh you ever heard of that place called Washington DC?Post metals.
>>61001763Don't make me defend mining stocks. Sure some flop, especially juniors but 5/6 of my picks are up 3x + in the last few months.I like physical though. If you don't hold it you don't own it.
>>61001706>>61001678Gold goes up while tech goes down. A couple of years ago, we could have sold an oz of gold and bought a clip on thermal that we did not need. That same oz of gold would but two of them today.
>>61001755kek
>>61001926fuck i wish my juniors would move already
>>61001933I mean, if you want some Chinese thermals sure. Don't get me wrong, Holosun makes good red dots but if I'm buying thermals it's American or German.
>>61001834>Reminder that governments can't spend forever if money is real and so they will never let it be real again.This is why governments would rather devalue their currency to nothing rather than voluntarily reduce government size by 80%-90%. Going to hard money forces the government as we currently know it to commit suicide.
>>61001666I’m slowly reaching a point where I no longer trust stocks or crypto. I’ve taken the silverpill and so has my girlfriend. I’m 1 day away from wanting to cash out my IRA and buy more silver to protect myself from the incoming storm. I’ve talked with other anons from here and they tell me that they’ve never believed in the stock market and I don’t think i believe anymore either. I’m already 90% out of all my crypto holdings (I have a few hundred left in btc but the horizon is bleak) wondering if any other anons are having similar dilemmas
>>61001949>I mean, if you want some Chinese thermals sure.The point remains, gold has been going up faster than tech. Unless you need it right now, it is better to keep the gold.
>>61001970>Unless you need it right now, it is better to keep the gold.truer words have never been spoken.Reminds me of some old country lore my father used to tell me.>never sell stuff you can't regrow
>>61001970But good tech is harder to come by. There's a coin shop in most towns in the US, there aren't many places that sell quality NODs and thermals.>>61001967Based food poster.
>>61001978>never sell stuff you can't regrowI can't pan for NODs, but I can for gold.
>>61001967>I’m slowly reaching a point where I no longer trust stocks or crypto.The US government has successfully subverted crypto by forcing Tether and others to invest in T-bills. Tether owns 92,646.2 bitcoin.Crypto is literally a pyramid scheme, built on a ponzi, resting on top of US government debt.Redeemable gold backed tokens will ultimately become the standard, in my opinion.
>>61001980Good tech is incredibly easy to come by. We are entering a period of high unemployment and Americans were obsessed with spending all their money buying shit they did not need and not enough of it on things they actually will need. We have too many cars, too many houses, too many apartments, too much bullshit and stuff, and we really don't have enough of the things that actually matter like machinery for manufacturing, skills, common sense and of course money, which is not dollars off the printing press but gold and silver.Things are obviously not going well and it's surprising just how long it takes normal people to figure out they are about to lose their income. Hasn't happened in 17 years but it's about to. Interest rates going up means there will be a lot of NVG's for sale.
>>61001980>But good tech is harder to come by.If you really feel you need it, you probably do. We have a years worth of food.
>>61001967Went out of real estate funds earlier this year but all the contract work with that will be settled by the end of the year. I still hold crypto since im still pretty good in the green but too far from the numbers i need to see for selling. Ive got a couple more months to think about what im gonna do with the money at the bank. I could take it out and buy more pm's but also i could buy some stocks with it. Im a pretty conservative, long type of investor so trading with stock options aint really my thing. Either i take it all out and invest in things on my end or i choose options from the bank which would be kinda comfy because they take care of it but also sucks because they take their cut and i despise them
https://youtu.be/h3f0XoM6TOY?t=2119 Silver going way past $70 (includes timestamp) @35:19
>>61002005>We have a years worth of food.very based op. every stacker should have a costco card for silver and chicken at this point.
>WeLmaoI’m slowly reaching a point where I no longer trust boomer rocks. I’ve taken the stockpill and so have my girlfriends. I don't have to cash out my IRA and buy silver to protect myself from the non existent incoming storm because I'm not chicken little. I’ve talked with other anons from here and they tell me that they’ve never believed in retard rocks and I don’t think i believe anymore either. I’m already 100% out of all my pms (I have a few hundred gold and silver fondle boys but the horizon isnt bleak) wondering if any other anons are having similar certainties
>>61002041PMs are for fun, not investment. The fact that they hold value over time is a big bonus, and much better than stuff like Pokémon cards or other collectibles.>>61002005>Cleaning chemicals stored in the same room as food.Nice pantry but ngmi.
>>61001967i'm just waiting for a pump on btc to sell it all and buy silver
>>61002033>>61002041Nice one, loser
>>61002038>every stacker should have a costco card for silver and chicken at this point.Nearly every stacker here will eventully end up with a family, land and some chickens and/or cattle.
>>61002052>PMs are for fun, not investmentIt's undervalued, it's money. It's an investment.
Hm thats curious why did IQDALIT delete this post?What is it about this post specificaly thats different from the other one he just showed bragging about his immense sucess and how he is totally traveling all across Europe with his golden coins?I just cant put my finger on it
>>61002005>Coffee creamer>Crisco>Ketchup>Apple sauceWhere is the food? Why do you have six massive tubs of hydrogenated vegetable oil? Are you going to live off baked beans and fake butter for a year?
>>61002080>It's undervalued, it's money. It's an investment.It's money. It's our savings. It just happened to also turn out to be a great investment.
>>61002073even more important to have it then. cheap gas and easy access to shiny.>why yes i would love to go food shopping dfarling we can get a few hotdogs and some silver!
>>61002088>Where is the food? Why do you have six massive tubs of hydrogenated vegetable oil?Not my pantry. Mine is ugly, and contains hundeds of pounds of wheat and rice, along with cans of beans & deenz that get rotated, 200kg of sugar, etc, 100 liters of ethanol, etc.
>>61002052>they hold value over timeThey do?
>>61002080kinda fun too
WAGMI
>>61002113Make sure y'all get outside this weekend it's back to waging for y'all on Monday. Show everyone your rocks we have to keep the ponzi going
>>61002128WAGMI
things are getting really exciting, aren't they?wish that I had more money to buy metals; being an europoor is suffering
>>61002140Looks like you have food covered for the next month,,,good job
>>61002147Wake me up when it's Monday to see if the pump sticks
The Chinese government, until recently, did not allow ordinary citizens to buy silver bullion. The government wanted to reserve silver for itself and industry. Chinese citizens can buy silver now.>It looks like mainland China’s citizens will rush into physical #Silver very soon.>There will be a global rush into #Silver. $50 USD #Silver is just the beginning…https://x.com/KingKong9888/status/1971953848056270933
>>61002152>Looks like you have food covered for the next month,,,good jobIf he's in Venezuela, it's more than a month.
>>61002147europoor here, stfu you whiney bitch. flea markets & ebay for junk silver, so many fuckin ways to do it! Old medals, coin collections, jewellry, cutlery, etc.
>>61002171Remember when Chinese social media psyopped the world into believing COVID (the common cold) had people dropping dead in the streets? They’re trying to psyop us out of cheapies, bros.
>>61002171gold market had a massive pull back https://youtu.be/wkDvjjEr5xo?si=tFnvIHIaaRAp1TmF
Added 100 Maples today
>>61001995Tether is currently selling BTC to buy gold hand over first. Even they are getting leery with the Satoshi >>61002061>i'm just waiting for a pump on btc to sell it all and buy silverThen you will hold the bag to the end of timeBTC will not pump. Crypto is a deflating balloon. Silver will continue to rise. Smarter people have already gotten off the crypto ride
>>61002177Lmao you are really dumb if you believe that
>>61002180I'm just sad that I'll never get to dragon tier with my salary
Masterpiece.
>>61002171Here's the translation of that image:>TT: “Teacher, I immediately bought another 50,000 (yuan worth of) silver.”>大海浮萍: “Where do you buy it?”>小新: “Please tell me how to buy silver through official channels.”>虹宿泉: “Where do you buy it?!”>TT (reply): “On Alipay, I think there’s only one fund.”https://x.com/honzacern1/status/1971961181293457582
>>61002185>gold market had a massive pull bacYou have it backwards. Chinese speculators sold leveraged gold short, and were wiped out when the price went up.
>>61002182COVID did have people dropping dead in Wuhan. It's just normal progression for any new biological agent to become less deadly over time. People still wearing masks today are sad, broken individuals still lost in 2020 when their lives had purpose (ratting out non-maskers)
>>61002193Nice!
>>61002193>Added 100 Maples today4 tubes worth.
>>61002197Theres ways if you really want it.
>>61002197You only need 140,000 ounces to make it,,,,,keep waging
>>61002203>speculators sold leveraged gold shortand MOST of them were doing this causing a pull back because everyone got greedy. people would just shut shop and run
>>61002194>Tether is currently selling BTC to buy gold hand over first. Even they are getting leery with the SatoshiYes. BTC is crashing relative to gold and silver.
>>61002197>I'm just sad that I'll never get to dragon tier with my salaryYou only need enough to get some land, find a good woman, make babies and then you will have a good life.
>>61002212Good job, you only need to do that 1399 more times to be make it tier
>>61002219You've been saying that since Bitcoin was $100.... kektop
>>61002197you can work on the side or sell stuff. nothing illegal or anything. sell blood or plasma if you want. hit up thrift stores and yard sales for sterling. scrap copper and brass when you find it. best you can do when broke is learn. find out about hallmarks or older coins.
>>61002221No female wants a stacktard who prays for the world to end,,,lmao
>>61001722>>61001763Fren, let me introduce you to the richest Gold deposit on earth, and it's still growing
>>61002230Hungry women can easily fall in love with men who have resources.
>>61002227>You've been saying that since Bitcoin was $100I'll still be saying that when BTC drops back down to below $100.
comfiest threads in all chans right now
>pmg turns into a shill fest for miner company scam stocksreminder not to buy ANY shares in canadian miners
>>61002248No quality woman is hungry and they certainly don't want a rock hoarder they want you to spend on them and y'all claim you are never selling y'all broke!
>>61002041i make money where it's easiest. 2021 was easy for stocks and crypto, then i went all in PM's with my profits and have been enjoying my ignore gains for the past years. i'll sell PM's soon more than likely. only thing that would push prices up from here is a world war, and even then maybe not.
>>61002264Moobz speaks the truth
>>61002270Last year it was Bitcoin this year it's miners. I told pmg baggies buy SBSW they mocked me
>>61002284>this year it's minersFirst of all you have no portfolio. Second of all, this is the beginning of silver's price increase now and forever.
>>61002269A quality woman thinks long term about what is best for her family unit.
>>61002221realistically how much would a usable farm cost, including cattle, tools, land, etc?
>>61002230>>61002248
>>61002306Yes, no woman wants a doomer stacktard
>>61002326And maybe they'll get a Merc once a month
>>61002326Y'all don't own 6 luxury apartments because you bought Rocks
>Noooooooo if you buy silver you won't have sex!!!!kektop you're getting even more pathetic
Why is the artwork on holdbacks so cringe? I know coins are a far better way to hold gold, but they could have a niche market if it was actually tasteful
I had sex because I bought silver
>>61002340Because I'm pretty sure backs collectors are the type of people who stack Magic and Pokemon cards
Grant Williams interview on silver:>Silver is volatile. It’s risky. And it’s massively underpriced, @ttmygh tells @ASchectman.>“You’re going to see truly extraordinary things happen in silver,” he said. Buckle up. The ride could be explosive.https://youtu.be/43b_ojfSFoE
>>61002326i just realized that the woman is standing there because this "news" is really an ad. sad!
>>61001967I was in the stocks. I was double charged in my account. Upsetting. The market took a shit. Very upsetting. I got everything out and purchased precious metals instead. Haven't looked back. There are excellent arguments for having stocks, bonds, treasuries, or whatever. I might pick up some for pennies on the dollar during the crash. I don't know. All I know is this:Stacking physical silver triggers kikes, jannies, and shills.Thus, I stack.
>>61001725>is not a precious metalI'm interested in hearing what *your* definition of a "precious metal" is.
>>61002325>realistically how much would a usable farm cost, including cattle, tools, land, etc?Right now, farmland (and real estate in general) is overpriced. At some point in the near future (ten years?) relative to gold and silver, land will be much cheaper.We are living in an artificially financialized system caused by decades of very low interest rates, and unlimited fiat printing. In the USA farmland is still too high right now in my opinion. This will not be the case forever.
>>61002340I like it. There should be breasts on all money.
>>61002340>>61002348>>61002402>star of david necklace
>>61002409>enhanceMy God, how fucking embarrassing.
>>61002375>I buy retard rock because smart rich people say not to
>>61002318yngmi
>>61002392>Just wait 40 years and silver will be valuable Lmao land is not a dead asset like silver
>>61002088Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 1 roll per day. If you have a family of 4, that's 28 rolls a week. Over 100 a month. TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.
>>61002409I don't believe it.
>>61002428>The average person uses 1 roll per dayThe fuck? A roll lasts me half a week.
>>61002437Do you suffer from anorexia fren?
>>61002428>The average person uses 1 roll per day.LOL. You must be a shill for big tp.
>>61002428>The average person uses 1 roll per day.WHAT??>>61002437>A roll lasts me half a weekyou both are nuts one roll lasts me like half a month almost how much are you guys crapping??
>>61002409Well it's Oklahomo, they don't understand what's going on yet
>>61002450>Do you suffer from anorexia fren?My asshole doesn't normally squirt. Take some probiotics you sick fuck.
>>61002434>I don't believe it.Oh well
>>61002428>>61002437When my diet was bad it was a roll a day. Loose shit from alcohol and slop. But these days one roll lasts much longer. Household of 2.The best thing I’ve ever done for my health is quit alcohol and stop eating potato products.
>>61002470I thought you were talking about >>61002402It's tragic that they would desecrate Goldbacks with the star of rempham
>>61002450Quite the opposite.>>61002473>quit alcohol I should stop for a few months and have no empty calories... yeah I'll buy more silver that way.>and stop eating potato productsBaked potatoes are good for you. It's the fried ones that fuck up your health. A steak and a beer isn't horrible, a steak and a baked potato is better.
Triple-Digit Silver? Prices Could ‘Easily Quadruple From These Levels’ | Tavi Costahttps://youtu.be/Q5tWRqlX9OY
>>61002492>Baked potatoes are good for you.That depends on how much frosting you put on it.
>>61002492>It's the fried ones that fuck up your health.I love deep fried (lard/tallow) potatoes and chicken.
>>61002500>frostingGreek yogurt. Better than sour cream. Or cottage cheese.I have these packs of hot ramen, but way lower sodium than regular ramen. Side of cottage cheese with that is really good. Add some steamed spinach and an egg in the ramen and I could eat that for days.
>>61001666>Comfy threads lately, edition. >Indeed fren.
>>61001967>wondering if any other anons are having similar dilemmas This isn't a dilemma, it's a doubt. Having a conviction to drop the waste and stack the money is wisdom, the doubts will always remain just outside the fence trying to get back in.
Just ordered 20 lire for relatively cheapI already have an Victor Emanuel so it would be a nice coin to add to my stackIm also learning Italian right now so its a fun coin to get for this month
>>61002592
Wealth beyond measure, outlander.
nearly got outbid last minute by a pesky ebayer on 3 seperate auctions. managed to get 2 bids in right before the end but lost the third one. Both auctions the coins silver value was at about 16€'s worth. It was only 32cts above spot for the one auction, the other i was able to be 4€ below. Feelsgoodman.
>>61002633is it really worth it to stack large sums of silver on ebay auctions?Wouldnt the deleviry costs for a bunch of smaller auctions cost more than if you just bulk buy a bunch of coins online for a good price?
>>61002645I just calculate the shipping costs into the original bid. And also i look for some sellers having multiple auctions so i can request a combi shipping. So yes, it is cheaper if you know what you're doing and make your calculations right. Since i live in europe, if i were to order regular fine silver ounces (i have those too) id have to pay the premium + vat + shipping. Since silver is currently rising in price, i rather just buy some junk silver for cheap and to fondle around with.
>>61002375Yes
friendly reminder that silver is going to $1,000 and also crypto nerds will continue to seethe and also central bankers tongue my anus
>>61002582Nice
I'm going to stop telling people who I know that I have PM's. Don't want to have to kill Uncle Bill for trying to rob me of my shinies
>>61001774>>61001838>>61001926>>61002239fucking india needs to be range banned i swear
Ok so if i sell my metals to a bullion dealer, I pretty much have to report it on taxes, meaning I pay 28% fed taxes. So, tax fraud aside, is there any way to avoid getting fucked over when selling?
>>61002770Try NextDoor
>>61002777I've heard people mention that before. I guess that means r/pmsforsale is a viable option after all?
>>61002340>holdbacksgood one, even if misprintyeah, their art is garish sometimes, but they are still the most popular and recognizable micro-fractionals. far from the first of this kind, mind you. There have been several attempts to do something similar in the past.
>>61002770> I pretty much have to report it on taxes,Why? What amount would you sell? Have there been reporting requirement changes for dealers in the last few years?
>>61002340They have some pretty ones
>>61002758PMs are very popular in India historically. And, with our population, we buy and store a great share of world gold and silver, sar. It's bloody straight facts.
>>61002794im really fuckin stupid when it comes to laws. Ive tried researching myself and only become more confused. Are you saying that as long as the dealers dont have to report their sales to a certain extent? I thought they had to report everything
>>61002758dont lump me together with that dalitwhat did i do to make you think im indian?
>>61002804If you go and sell 5 silver eagles, you'd plan on reporting that on your taxes? I don't really understand their reporting requirements. Say Vanguard, they're sending forms into the government, so if I neglect to report that, I'd assume that it would be much more likely to be an issue or cause an audit than the first example. If you'd go and sell a tube of gold eagles, I would think there'd be a chance they'd have to report that sale, and then you might want to reconsider if you need to report or not.
>>61002823Has anyone here sold games at Gamestop or similar store? You're reporting your used video game sales, right?
>>61002770>Ok so if i sell my metals to a bullion dealer, I pretty much have to report it on taxes,if you don't get a 1099 then it never happened.When a 1099 is not triggeredA Form 1099-B is generally not required for transactions involving: Small quantities: Sales that are under the reporting thresholds.Exempt products: U.S. American Gold Eagle coins and Gold Buffalo coins are exempt from 1099-B reporting, regardless of the quantity sold.Personal jewelry: The sale of items like gold jewelry does not trigger 1099-B reporting by the dealer.Private sales: Selling gold directly to another person (peer-to-peer) is not a reportable event for the dealer.
>>61002829>>61002823ok I see what you guys mean. Ive only ever bought, but never sold. Now im 250 oz silver deep wondering how I would ever cash in. Everyone IRL that i talk too about PMs is telling me Im gonna get fucked over by taxes and that i should be buying ETFs (that shits taxed too). I dont want to commit tax fraud. But at the same, do I *really* have to report a 10oz silver sale?
>>61002850ok this clears up a lot. I was able to research a lot more and get a better understanding off of what you said. Thank you
>>61001967I’m on board with everyone here on crypto and getting out for metals. But you’d be a fool not to hold 1,000 Link
>>61002073The problem is the neighbor down the way will be a redditor. They stack too.
>>61002747>I'm going to stop telling people who I know that I have PM's. Don't want to have to kill Uncle Bill for trying to rob me of my shinies Should have never started. My brother doesn't even know there's 2 comex buried next to a 4 inch sewer line I ran for him when he was remodeling.
Metals start getting attention lately and the crypto nerds start coming in here with their opinions
Gold and Silver are the currency of choice for all Cybertronians fren
>>61002932now lets transform and roll out
>>61002917this meme has been going for over TWO YEARS
>>61002470woah
>>61002932>>61002940stackers in disguise
>>61002853I think you only have to report it if you sell stuff over$10,000. But you're into PMs to secure your wealth, not cash out when the timings good. It's being speculated that if silver goes over $50.00 then real bad shit is going to happen. 5k gold and the whole jigs up.
AYOO I just bought more Silver LMFAO
Just did the math I'm up around 11k on all my physical metals. Thank you guys for convincing me to spend all my paychecks when I was 17 on coins and bullion in 2022, my only regret is not buying more.
>>61002980This is a common question on /pmg/.The $10k flag that arouses the US government's interest is raised when the transaction involves cash or its equivalent (see line 32 in pic related). If you use a personal check or electronic transfer, this Form 8300 never comes into play. The dealer who pays you fills out the form.If you sell a small amount (I believe $1k is the trigger), no reporting of any type. For anything over that, you should be filing a 1099-B. However, sales of Eagles (silver and gold) up to $1k *face value*(!) are apparently exempt from having to file a 1099-B, but still subject to inclusion on a Schedule D form for long-term capital gains tax. Note that you are reporting the *profit* on these sales on Sch. D. So make sure you have your original purchase receipts so you can subtract that value if you're audited.Note: I am neither a tax attorney nor CPA, so there are probably all sorts of caveats and details I'm missing.
>>61003032Happy for you. Think about 5-10% in the miners and royalty companies. I hope you make such gains again in to the future.
At least the mintage is only 4k? >1.62 100-200https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chn1gk_Amjshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbjuImifNy4
Shill me miners that haven't gone parabolic yet that will give me generational wealth.
>>61003032>he tracks the value of his 'real money' in FIATMan you stacktards are fucking stupid, your pile of metal will be up 3500% and you'll still never sell it because 'it will only get more valuable', until you die or it's stolen.
>>61002980>if silver goes over $50.00It still wouldn't be up to its inflation adjusted high from 2011, it needs to hit $80 at least for stacktards to break even on their bags.
You seem really worried about when/if I'm gonna sell mr iqdelet vpn #5. Mind your own fucking business.
>>61003081>Jew silverDoes it come pre-clipped?
new fondle coin?
>>61003081>zionazi kike filth propagandsduck off go die in a fire
>>61003032
>>61002809i legit think i accidently clicked your post when adding the others. the ones i thought were jeets were the obvious mining stock scam pushing faggots
>>61003108First Majestic is unironically gonna go beast mode this cycle
>>61001725And the newest autistic spreg has announced themselves
>>61003081that's not very nice on a saturday>>61003156Does pamp often do real high premium bars like that? Haven't seen one before
>>61003180Rather have physical silver than your stock, jeet.
>>61003213>>61003175that was meant for you nigger < :)
>>61001725‘The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine,’ says the LORD of hosts. - Haggai 2:8God loved silver enough to mention it first.
>>61003218That's ok poorfag, real adult with brokerage accounts and IRAs can buy securities and for bigger profits. Buying miners is buying ounces in the ground.
>>61003221I wonder how much silver you could shave off that bar before a dealer would notice...
>>61002932Fun stuff
>>61003240On the back, you could connect the stars to make a cross. i wonder why they didn't do two on each left and right and one top and bottom. Dealers would be extra cautious with this bar.
Also some coins
>>61003032When I think about my dad telling me to buy gold when I was that age and I bought video games instead I want to kick my own ass. Gold was $400 then at the absolute most for several years.
Convinced irl fren to buy Silver. He asked me "is it going down?" I said no only up from here mein fren.
>>61003071>If you sell a small amount (I believe $1k is the trigger), no reporting of any type. For anything over that, you should be filing a 1099-B. However, sales of Eagles (silver and gold) up to $1k *face value*(!At the beginning you say $1000. Do you mean if I sell more than 1K worth of silver? or 1K face value? That seems like a really low threshold to avoid the 1099B
>>61003250get these genocidal terrorist kikery out of here
>>61002963>Autobots wage their battle>To destroy the evil forces>Of the>(((Deceptions)))
>>61003288I was just looking for a picture to post as an excuse to post the videos. How about this. It looks like there is finally another coin for the witch series coming
>>61003032So you have about 400 ounces give or take? Nice stack. Now start getting gold even in fractional
fuck kikes, fuck jeets, fuck jannies, stack silver
>>61003230>Buying paper is buying paper profitsNo thanks
>>61003302
>>61003300wtf is this, a jackie chan talisman?
>>61003081>star of remphanew
>>61003313People loved him. And for good reason.
>>61003314https://www.instagram.com/p/DPEG8C9CEx4/are you attempting to put me in the bullybox today?
>>61003255It’s like being pissed you didn’t buy Bitcoin at $30 when you knew about it. But it was actually better that you didn’t buy because there is no way you would have held to over $1,000. And even if you held to $1,000 and sold and made a nice but irrelevant profit of 50k or something you would then kill yoirswld to see it 100x from there. If I could take a Time Machine back to 2012 right now, and I would be told that when I get there I would buy 1,000 BTC for $12,000 and my mind would then be wiped clean not knowing anything about the future BTC price. I would not go back. Cuz as soon as BTC went to say $100 maybe $200 and I have 100k-200k I would have been out. And then I would have seen it go to 60k and would want to KMS.
>>61003300Very nice
I was going to go buy $10FV more half dollars today but my wife woke me up at 5 a.m. because she got food poisoning so I had to take care of our infant. Not gonna say "don't have kids" because that's gay fag propaganda, but it sure does fuck up plans.
>>61003327This.I mean none of us can tell the future it's not as though we have a crystal ball.
>>61003330You are very blessed to have a wife and children:)
>>61003321>>61003313
>>61003255Now it is certainly a good deal different with gold. The good news is that you won’t need that much gold at all to make it. Maybe you would have had 25 ounces had you listened to your dad. But as long as you get 5-10 ounces I think you will be confit with what’s happening
>>61003335:)
>>61003337Comfy*
>capital gains tax on collectibles goes up to 28%USbros, our response??
>>61003363My response is, source?
>>61003279Hes thinking of $1k FV of junk silver.For gold bars and rounds to be reportable, each item must have a purity of at least .995, with a total quantity of 1 kilo (32.15 troy ounces) or more. For silver, the items must have a purity of at least .999, with a minimum sales quantity of 1,000 troy ounces. For palladium and platinum, the reporting thresholds are 100 troy ounces and 25 troy ounces, respectively, with a required purity of .9995.Reporting for coin sales is more straightforward, with specific coins subject to reporting, such as the 1 oz Gold Maple Leaf, 1 oz Gold Krugerrand, 1 oz Gold Mexican Onza, and any U.S. coin composed of 90% silver. Sales of 90% silver U.S. coins exceeding a face value of $1,000 or sales of over 25 of the aforementioned gold coins must be reported. Certain bullion products are exempt from reporting, including fractional gold coins, Gold and Silver American Eagles, foreign coins not listed by the IRS, and U.S. coins minted after the IRS list was created in the 1980s.
>>61003314KEEEEEEEEEK
>>61003368>Net capital gains from selling collectibles (such as coins or art) are taxed at a maximum 28% rate.https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409
>>61002428>take shit>wash ass with water>pat dry with one sheet of TP (optional)>roll of TP lasts monthsor>take shit>use wad of TP to smear whats left all over ass>go through rolls of TP on a weekly basis
>>61003180>lets ignore this huge fucking spike in the middle and the fact that it looks nothing like a cup
Is this the big one?
>>61002758I'm no Poo, just one of the many Snowline Chads getting wealthy on /cmmg/
You know what, while it's true that PMs always underperform the stock market and that FIAT isn't dying anytime soon, the current system isn't going to survive to my retirement, I think I'll switch my RRSP to a precious metals fund.
>>61003363Those taxes only kick in if you're above a certain amount, right?I can go to my LCS and sell $1 short of 10k in silver without filling out any forms.From my perspective: "Not my problem."
>>61003116You don't sell assets if you don't have to poortard. You transfer them into another asset class like real estate. Fucking boomer hands typed your post. Don't sell assets for comforts.
>>61003406No.Inflation adjusted, the highs could easily be in the $200 range.
>>61002853Don't sell, swap it into gold when the GSR corrects
>>61003413>PMs always underperform the stock market and that FIAT isn't dying anytime soonlol
>>61003414>Those taxes only kick in if you're above a certain amount, right?Exactly. A typical bullion seller wouldn't have to pay 28%.
The new stealth fudds and shills are a hoot.
>>61002980>It's being speculated that if silver goes over $50.00 then real bad shit is going to happen.how so?
>>61003437All the too big to fail banks with the massive shorts go bye bye along with what's left of the economy
>>61003377what about taxes on 40% halves? my autism has probably pulled over 1,000 out of circulation from the banks around here
>>61003471>40% halves?Why do you get these? They're difficult to sell. Do you just plan to take them directly to a refiner someday?
Buy silver (but not weiners)
>>61003420>$200 rangeYep, I'd say $200 is a conservative and reasonable estimate of where silver could go,.And it won't require civil war conditions. $200 is just relative to the magnitude of USD devaluation we can all see around us everyday.So when normires hear silver is $200/oz. They won't have any basis to assume it should be anything else because everything is up
>>61003475>Why do you get these?because for 50 cents and the cost of gas I get $6.81 in silver for each one the bank had
>>61003438seems like we're already pricing in some sort of catastrophe in the near future, and then bank failures will be a side note
>>61003495>because for 50 cents and the cost of gas I get $6.81 in silver for each one the bank hadDamn how long ago did you get those? In ~2015 I hardly ever saw any silver coins in circulation.
>>61003471Dang.How?What I mean is, I stack pre-82 pennies. I've gotten maybe a dozen $25 boxes of pennies over the last year. Averaged out, the number of pre-82's in circulation is around 11%. So, for $25 you're going to get just under 300 pennies [probably]. Okay, you're pulling out silver half dollars? Are you buying boxes? How are you doing this? I'm curious because this makes me want to test whatever it is you're doing.
>>61003501mostly in 2019, tried again after the plandemic ended and would maybe only avg 2 or 3 silver per $500 box so it got a lot tougher. Did get these last year from a bank's coin counter bag that had $80 in halves in it
>>61003515>mostly in 2019That's surprising. Anyways, jackpot.
>>61003515>tried again after the plandemic ended and would maybe only avg 2 or 3 silver per $500 boxI didn't read this far.Apologies.I'm going to stick with what I do:Stack physical silver.Pick up pre-82 pennies when I see them.God be with you, anon.
>>61003514>Are you buying boxes?Usually, but I stopped. Would order 6 or 8 $500 half boxes from the bank at a time. But banks with coin counters were usually the better. Just ask if they could check the count on their half bag and ask to buy it. These were in one bank's $500 bag they had in their vault after their coin counter bag filled up. It can be good to ask a teller if they have any half rolls or bags in their vault.
Do any anons try to collect old style paper currency?Like old two dollar bills?Or old 5s, 10s, and 20s ?I just like the old designs compared to modern bills.
>>61003522thanks bro, no worries
>>61003537Yeah, but I don't have many yet. Hardly any old US stuff yet but that's definitely on the to get list.
>>61003543Nice twenty reichsmark note
>>61003540Walking Liberty most beautiful coin
>>61003569yep, the mint should have used that old Walking Liberty eagle for the Silver Eagle bullion coin, or maybe even this eagle
>>61003569I have a soft spot for peace dollars. Something about that sunburst on the reverse is just dazzling. I only have a few.They're among my favorites.
15 month old , another on the way>no houseCan’t stock up since werr always on the move. Have some essentials but would have a freezer full of meat To last a Year if we were settled along with a lot of other things that will be a lot more expensive in the near future. Wut do guys? Need to find a white community can count on which is the most difficult part before we plant roots>110k high yield saving Want to invest more and not watch my dollars burn but with buying land/house on the near term horizon feel stuck.>.14 btc, 3.7 eth, 1776 Stinkies> >5.5 ounces gold, 180 ounces silverAdvice from any other white fathers? I’m spooked you guys. 10k in brokerage for commodities/miner plays? Or more gold silver? The Costco ounce sold out from my cart, only thing they got is the 100 gram boy for 12k and change
>>61003350What’s the deal with the kraken coaster?
>>61003569>>61003593Have either of you, or anyone else, heard that it might be columbia on this coin and not liberty? https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/why-not-columbia.html
>>61003564thanks
>>61003614I heard something like that before but idk.also heard it was at some point "copied" from an earlier French coin design, of a lady in robes walking through the French countryside planting seeds.probably a detailed history of the design in a US coin book
>>61003626>>61003614
>>61003377This is one of the most accurate posts on the complex US PM tax rules I've ever seen on 4chan. It should be part of every /pmg/ thread.
>>61003377
>>61002520>ramenWhat kind?
>Goober Boomer explains why buying Silver ETF's is better than buying physical while FOMOing into Silver at $45.https://youtube.com/watch?v=q0DpHa8oL9A#
>>61003672look at this boomer what a boomer
>>61003672There is a new stacker every day.Silver isn't the bargain it was a decade ago.Still pretty good, by all metrics, though.
>>61003609Anon with two kids you need a home, that should be your number one priority for your family.
>>61003662
You guys convinced me, I'm going to clean out my bank account and figure out how to buy 5oz of gold tomorrow.
>>61003714hell yeah
>>61003528Did you find any 1970 halves?
>>61003714wait no, you should buy silver insteadalso make sure you still have enough cash for an emergency
>>61003746>buy silver instead>also make sure you still have enough cash for an emergencyThis.
>>61003648I don’t know why you retards are worried about taxes. The only reason to buy gold and silver is so you instantly make it in the new system when fiat fails. And at that point taxes won’t matter, and if they do, you won’t give a shit about paying them if a couple ounces of gold buys you a house and you got a stack of 15 ounces of something where it’s no skin off your back to pay them.
I want to use the equity in my house to buy more metals, is this a retarded idea?I bought a place in 2016 for 230k, which is now worth roughly 550, of which I owe 160 to the bankIf I get the full 80% LVR, that's ~300k to invest in other assets before the dollar diesI can get a rate of 4.5% or so, though in my gay country rates are always variable and you can only get fixed rates for short periods because of the jews. I'm anticipating lower rates and hyperinflation though, which is partly why I want to do this.Alternatively I was going to just sell, but I don't want to pay taxes :(thankyou for reading
>>61003764>I don’t know why you retards are worried about taxes.Because between now, and when the system fails, a person might need emergency liquidity, and knowing what you can liquidate without triggering mandatory reporting would be extremely advantageous to know in advance, to possibly guide one's purchases.These specific rules of would only be applicable for burgers.
>>61003797Go check your iPhone’s calendar and go to April 15th, 2026. There is no tax day anymore listed on it. But there is for April 15th, 2025 and going back each and every year in the past
>>61003750>>61003746Seconded. $1k cash in a firesafe hidden in the house is always a good idea, and a few hundred oz of silver will likely go up more multiples than a few oz of gold.
>>61003805>Go check your iPhone’s calendar and go to April 15th, 2026.I'm a Leaf, and I don't have a smartphone.
>50 year cup and handleSilver is going to $80, minimumPaper silver isn't real silver btw, it doesn't count
>>61003816>I'm a LeafBased Leafs
>>61003714Firstly, I wouldn't clean out my bank account.Secondly, I would buy slightly more silver than gold. Thirdly, you need to take a deep breath, and a big step back, before you do anything rash.
>>61003816Die then
>>61003838Careful, you're talking to a future US citizen.
>>61003609Imagine actually having kids post 2020. Like people were retards to have kids between 2010-2020 cuz the writing was on the wall but it wasn’t nearly as obvious. But now?
>>61003838rude
>>61003714retarded if true
>>61003699Agree 100%. I initially was gonna wait a bit longer, you know when people are losing their houses cause they can’t afford home insurance and property taxes. but things are accelerating and I need to bunker down and stock up/hoard essentials. There will be a crash, I just don’t know what to do safely til then. And I guess that’s buying sooner than later, prob Tennessee /wv. States will become more important in the short term but in the long term it doesn’t matter. Funny how Jewsantis says no digital ID in Florida when he tried implementing it last year and it failed, they’re just gonna refine and rerelease it. RealID is already part of it
>>61003699Uhhh? That’s what gold and silver will enable him to get?
>>61003847I hear ya man. Things didn’t FULLY click until my wife was mid pregnancy first one. In hindsight I’d have never had a kid knowing what I know now until I had a homestead secured with our own food and water. Second kid wasn’t planned and happened before we secured a home and land (timing of the first wasn’t either), so here I am, losing my mind. I’ll probably be dead in 5 years for resisting digital ID and then my surviving wife and kids will have their souls harvested. Leave America? Idk it’s not easy. Time to learn Spanish I guess and go to Paraguay. I feel immense guilt
>>61003824>$80A merc dime would be $5.78 at melt...
>>61003859Buy chainlink too. Link is what makes all that digitial shit possible. May give you reprieve if you actually own it.
>>61003850Albertans are tough. Even my cat works in the oil industry.
>>61003870I mean don’t get me wrong. Like it’s good that you have kids if you make it out the other end. I saw the writing on the wall after 2008 and confirmed watching Peter schiff in 2011. It’s not that having had kids would have been bad, it’s just that I’d be up to my tits in stress seeing how things habe unfolded realizing my kids have no future.
>>61003872>LinkFuck off, baggie.
>>61003746I've been telling you guys over and over again, silver is not a precious metal. I still have a stack from 2011 that is finally now worth half of what I paid for it. It shoots up during a panic and then falls back down to it's useful value which is the equivalent of a mcdonals meal per oz. Silver is the reason why I've been holding onto FIAT all this time and lost half my purchasing power because I didn't believe the asset bubble could last this long or that houses in canada could become this retarded. I'm going to turn 4% of my assets into physical in case there is a monetary reset some day maybe 20 years from now, but the rest will be going into funds, either metals or stocks. I'm done holding FIAT though, every pay cheque from now on gets invested.>>61003813Enjoy your 250 pounds of worthless metal no one wants. Not even the indians that delivered that shit to you is going to bother trying to rob you for it.
>>61003880Totally 1,000% agree with that post but you autistic faggots don’t realize that that post is geared toward BTC, XRP, and a whole host of other normie coins for the normies. Link is totally overshadowed by most of these overvalued shitcoins. Even the most anti crypto pro-gold person realizes that whatever is coming isnt gonna end up being a world where we are purchasing snickers bars with a silver dime at a pharmacy like it’s 1910. Gold and silver will be integral but it’s all gonna be tokenized. It’s all gonna be streamlined digitally. And I’m merely saying that buying link will MAYBE give you reprieve from this digital ID bullshit.
>>61003884The metal you need the most is lithium.
>>61003891The delusion of linkoids. Holy shit.Not buying your bags.
>>61003884>It shoots up during a panic and then falls back downIn 1980 the drop was induced by a change in margin rules causing leveraged longs to close. In 2011 we have chat logs from court proceedings proving several large banks colluded to dump paper contracts in unison to dump the price. The question is what can they do this time to induce a drop? What can they do when the Chinese and Indians will buy any discount they can get? You keep coming in here and telling us how it is but your thesis is out dated. You don't understand the macro.
>>61003071>I am neither a tax attorney nor CPA, so there are probably all sorts of caveats and details I'm missing.The very first word "report" is voluntary if you accept that authority. So if you do and operate in non functional currencies consider the following. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.irs.gov/pub/fatca/int_practice_units/fcu_cu_c_18_2_1_03.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj4iaDkp_qPAxUD48kDHXsfCnUQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2ENpd0BxRMxkbXZL0kl9D8 Not that I am tax evader, nor a cheat, just definitions matter. Like "state" means circumstance and every person in America is a state, a sovereign entity, and as the law if the land clearly says, no state shall make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts. So in order to adhere to the law of the land in which the treasury of these United States is mentioned and the-IRS is not mentioned, what else is one to do?
>>61003892Believe whatever you want, I lived through 2008 and the retarded FOMO on silver and gold afterwards. The prices came back down and eventually everything deflated, all that panic was for nothing. Gold sat at $1200 per oz, but by then life was good so why did you need gold?This current bubble will end, maybe not next year or the year after, but the boomers will die at some point and assets will deflate. There will be an oversupply of housing *provided they don't run infinite immigration again.
>>61003898The upwards price action is due to the paper contracts so no it's not foul play when the price dumps when the paper contracts do, no one wants to crate around a hundred pounds of silver to pay for a car.
>>61003901>The prices came back downThey won't go down if we all refuse to sell silver for a lower price. It's the same as any asset. Real estate prices are hinging on that.
>they fired the jeet and got ai to do the fud
>>61003906>hundred pounds of silver to pay for a carWhen price discovery happens, only a few oz will be needed.
>>61003906>The upwards price action is due to the paper contractsNo it's due to physical trading in Asia.
>>61003907The people with paper contracts will sell to take their profits and will dump the price and that's all that matters. It's just like bitcoin, it's not real but that doesn't matter.No one cares if the physical stuff isn't available as long as they can make money on the paper because the demand for physical outside of stackers isn't that high.
>>61003921The people with paper contracts will demand physical metal or be left holding worthless paper.
>>61003921Same can be said about gold. And I don't care about paper, I know what I got, and I'm not getting less than I want.
>>61003921>the demand for physical outside of stackers isn't that highThat's absolutely a lie.
>>61003921>No one cares if the physical stuff isn't availableHoly shit dude you're a fucking retard. Physical delivery will be everything soon.
>>61003916I hope you're right so I can unload my bags on some one, but silver simply isn't that rare or desired. Look at the price of platinum, platinum is what silver wishes it was and it's still nowhere near as valuable as gold because it isn't yellow. I've heard all of these arguments before, it's like im reliving 2010 but this time I'm not a teenager.
>it's not rare or desired>multi-year supply deficitAs I said, you don't know the macro.
>>61003924If it ever comes to that kind of scenario, central banks will guarantee FIAT redemption for paper certificates and the musical chairs will continue.>>61003930The scenario you're thinking of isn't going to play out the way you think it is. They will not even allow physical delivery in that situation. Central bank holds your 'gold' and issues you paper to hold on to.
>>61003901>the boomers will die at some point and assets will deflate. I think you mean be sold by their inheritors, like their stacks, if they have any.
>>61003930>Physical delivery will be everything soon. Very
>>61003940And that's how China takes control of the pricing scheme of precious metals.
Looks like they got another monke to take iqdelet’s place
>>61003940>Central bank holds your 'gold' and issues you paper to hold on to.No.I hold my gold.I know this because I can physically touch it.
>>61003961Based fondler
>>61003945Initially, once the dieoff is really underway though there will be so much rural housing available that people will not even come to claim it. It will be like those villages in italy where they sell you a medieval house for a dollar provided you fix it up and live there. The rest of the shit boomers own isn't worth anything to younger generations and I doubt they have stacks, they were too busy collecting chotchkies and ceramic figurines.
>>61003901>This current bubble will end, maybe not next year or the year after,How much debt did the USA have in 2008? How much interest were they paying annually on their national debt? How many boomers were 65 and collecting entitlements? What percentage of international trade was in US dollars, what was the ratio of gold to US Treasuries owned by foreign central banks?2025 is a completely different world than 2008.
>>61003906>The upwards price action is due to the paper contractsUpwards price action is due to China taking delivery of physical from western markets.
>>61003924>The people with paper contracts will demand physical metal or be left holding worthless paper.COMEX has fhe option to cash settle at a price they ultimately control.
New thread:>>61003978>>61003978>>61003978
>>61003934>but silver simply isn't that rare or desired.I call a bingo!
>>61003968If you guys want to go down the real schizo ladder, remember those get well soon jabs everyone was forced to take? Boomers aren't going to be collecting that social security for very long and neither will any one who got jabbed. We get a company wide email whenever anyone dies and lately there's been a lot of people dying, wayy before retirement age.>>61003975Possibly, but this is what I really think is going on and that chinese demand could be a part of it. If it does happen that they buy up the worlds physical supply of silver and it's suddenly worth $10,000 per oz, there won't be anyone on this side of the globe that I'll be able to sell it to at that price.
>>61003998>We get a company wide email whenever anyone diesleverage this trauma into a "hostile work environment" lawsuit against the company
