The P/E ratio is 256.The P/E ratio. Is 256. Who in the actual PISSING fuck STILL buys Tesla and boosts it +4% in a day?Are these Martians? Like little green men who don't know how to human? No. I actually suspect it's some FUCKING LOONY TARDED rogue automated trading bot who FOR SOME REASON is hooked up to the state budget of a large Eurasian nation.
>>61009475> trading bot
>>61009475Tesla is the future, made with it. This thing saves my wallet every day and I thank heavens for having it.
>>61009475(((they))) pump and dump it to scam option gamblers
I visited space x, teslas everywhere. The mission: launch a bunch of starlink satellites. I think its all just an Elin circle jerk
>>61009475Everyone knows it's fucked, they still buy it because there is potential to make money while it's going up and that's all that matters in this casino.
>>61009475I've had the same question for months and have done a bit of digging and come to the following conclusion:Remember the altcoin seasons of previous cycles? Random shit mooning at arbitrary times for absolutely no reason just because of retail mania and euphoria? Basically the same thing is happening today with meme tech stocks like Palantir and Tesla. Psychologically the same process, and probably the same cyclical pattern too. Be careful out there, because these companies are in Nasdaq and major indices, they can actually have macro effects this time, unlike the altcoin mania that was just isolated pump and dumps.
>>61009475I bought a model y yesterday. I got there 20 minutes early and there were 10 people in front of me. Only one was a test drive, the others were all pick ups. It felt more like fast food than buying a car. They are printing money
>>61009475Self driving cars and humanoid robots, that why.I also think Tesla would be a good buy if it was valuated normally, but they have priced in at least a x10 in earnings.. With several big unknowns, what is the profit margin on robots and self driving cars? You are not looking at a money printer like google that earns 90 cents for every dollar they sell for.It's also questionable how far out the humanoid robots are, it will probably be similar to FSD cars in the sense they kind of had it ~5 years ago, but it wasn't quite there so it took another 5 years of incremental improvements until we actually see self driving cars at scale.
>>61009664how are people having so much money?
>>61009709Having?
>>61009722lol
>>61009690Self driving cars is clearly a joke because there's so much competition and they aren't even the leaders. They're also not the leaders in robotics btw.
>>61010177>there's so much competition and they aren't even the leaders>They're also not the leaders in robotics btwThese points are arguable, but Tesla has the edge in being vertically integrated, and being proven in mass production. The Chinese have made great gains in the EV market, especially in Europe, but they're doing so while taking a huge hit on their margins.
>>61010177Have you had a Tesla drive you around yet? It’s pretty neat.
Tesla is the most popular investment for under 35s all over the world, specially SK and Europe. They just think Elon = futuristic technology. A lot of them invest say half their paycheck every week. The ticker is divorced from the company, it's more like crypto than a stock. On top of these smartass shorts are constantly being burned. Palantir works similarly, with even wilder dissociation from its financial reality. A very normal data science company valued like its Skynet.
>>61009690>what is the profit margin on robots and self driving cars?Regarding the robots, you also have to look at the TAM. As capability increases with time, that TAM becomes everything. It's every job on Earth. For some who look further ahead, it's also every job off-world.Think of it another way. Google has great margins, but they're still soaking up their profits from other customers, other industries. A company or an economy that is all AI robots can be completely self-sustaining. As investors, that's basically what we're selecting for - a company that survives and grows for as long as possible. The ramifications of such a "forever" company, whether good or bad, kind of depends on what type of sci-fi reader you are.I'm not saying Tesla will be that company. But it seems to be the only one insane or forward-looking enough to take a serious stab at it.
>>61010274It's not even really debatable, Waymo is far ahead of Tesla in self driving and they're newcomers in robotics. They're growing fast, but nobody in the industries actually think they are the current leader.
>>61010274Tesla has the edge in jackshit
>>61010388That's better than nothing.
>>61010388Line go up
>>61009664It’s the end of tax incentives. Ofc there’s a scramble. But it’s about to end.
>>61009475everything is a scam, everyone is a scammer.
>>61009475>Who in the actual PISSING fuck STILL buys Tesla and boosts it +4% in a day? Elon Musk
>>61010177>they aren't even the leadersNo but they have a good position, Waymo went all in on radars and sensors, which is great. But if Tesla can achieve the same with half a dozen of cameras.. Waymo is not gonna be competitive with such an expensive setup, it's a quality vs quantity scenario and the quantity seems to be as the same quality level as the "quality".
>>61011229> if Tesla can achieve they cantstop shitting up he thread, you troll
>>61011229The point is, a 200 p/e is for a growing company that owns a monopoly. Tesla isn't growing in their core business, have tons of competition in their emerging tech, and don't own a monopoly. Lidar prices have also plummeted and they haven't even started mass production yet.
>>61011403>a 200 p/e is for a growing company that owns a monopolyA +200 p/e is for no company.. Maybe some strange windfall situation, Company X sued the government for a trillion and it's 99% certain they are gonna win.. That is basically what +200 p/e means, that your existing business doesn't matter, it's this "near certain" future earnings that you are buying.Again i love Tesla, but it's not "near certain" and the future earnings is impossible to estimate.
I'm investing in a growing company with a p/e of 8. It has been beat down the past week. It did have a p/e of 9.
>>61010380There are plenty of companies that are in the robot space
>>61010274BYD, for example, is far more vertically integrated and "proven in mass production".
>>61009475The fundamentals for Tesla have never made sense in regards to the value of the stock price. It can't grow at the rate it is expected to grow, and the bubble will eventually pop. The problem is we haven't had a real recession in a long time so capital is doing stupid stuff.
Ok anyone that thinks TSLA p/e ratio is crazy, I would like them to explain Broadcom.
>>61010355I think a lot of people don't realize that xAI, SpaceX and Tesla are separate companies, and that owning shares in Tesla does not entitle you to any share of xAI or SpaceX profits
>>61009709Not all of us larp about crypto. I’ve been in this long enough to know if you don’t spend your gains you waste the next 3-5 years wishing you had.
>>61011797I think you’re too stupid to realize Elon wants to be a trillionaire and now that Tesla told him if he makes Tesla worth 10 trillion they will give him one trillion he is combining all his companies through Tesla
>>61011718explain
>>61009475relevant>make $415 million through Tesla>lose it allhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/man-sues-over-tesla-stocks-1.7343048
>>61009475>Not buying ALSET
You aren't bullish enough>FSD>Robotaxis>Sub 30k EV car to compete with cheap chinese vehicles>EV Semi going into full production>Roadster unveiling later this year
there is too much money out there so it just goes into equities
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>>61011561You could have situations where a company's P/E is artificially high in the short term because they are plowing all their profits into long term investments. Amazon had a pretty insane P/E for a long time while they built their business. They were actually growing revenues though, so that doesn't apply to tesla.
>>61010310I concur. I let my model 3 drive me everywhere. It's much more relaxing than driving myself. Plus the Tesla's are a good return for your money. They require barely any maintenance and it's cheaper than gas to charge it
>>61014498This. So much this
