Wow, paying with bitcoin is so fucking simple.>no bank to go through>just enter the address and wait 2 minutes>confirmation is ten minutes at most>transaction is done. No bs, no waiting for ledger shitWhy do we need banks again?
>>61010168>more than a handful of people attempt to do this at the same time>transaction fee $1000
You don't know how stupid the average human being is. That's why we need banks.
>>61010179never happens, faggot
>>61010180fair answer. I think of the normies who fall for scams everyday.
>>61010168DCA this big orange bastard, work, and don't look at the price. In no time, you will be free. Ignore shitcoins, ignore 'muh tech,' especially ignore leverage.
>>61010198Already am doing that. I really want to get away from the dollar. The fiat scam wont last for long.
>>61010189when runes launched it completely fucked the network for months. 1 gay little project is enough to bring bitcoin to its knees as a payment processor
>>61010217who?
>>61010222exactly, you haven't even heard of this random useless project, which by itself made bitcoin unusable for many weeks. imagine being forced to pay huge fees because some no-name bullshit is spamming the network
>>61010249Except that never happened.
>>61010249sis your lightning network?
>>61010249just looked it up. fucking faggot, the btc network was fine. it was the lightning network
>>61010168I think the original vision of bitcoin as a payment network has actually been superseded by using it as a store of value instead.
>>61010286Like gold and jewelry, that's fine. This will create flow and ebb of value as the market decides what's best for it.
>>61010168That’s the beauty of Bitcoin. It puts the banker back in his place.Which is an actual business that competently assesses business risk and allocates capital efficiently to ultimately serve the needs and wants of free market participants. Which is what we desperately need. But wait theres more you can also save your money forever and it will provide for you in the future. By simply choosing not to spend your money saved which you could waste now you are literally investing in the future. The longer you hold the more consumption you forefeit now for more later.Bitcoin fixes money, it births a true free market and restores dignity and freedom to everyone who works for a living. As decades go by Bitcoin will tower maybe perhaps along with AI and the most revolutionary thing that happened since the internet
>>61010179Want a 10 minute confirm than offer $5 reward. Don't mind waiting just put 25 cents. Private trading isn't like coinbase.
Monero is what Bitcoin attempted to be. Few will realise in time.
>>61010557Amazing how the bank monopoly has been socialism in full effect, with the Federal Reserve being a downright detriment to the free market. And the sad part is that if people were wise, they could stop taking dollars at all their businesses
>>61010575I wouldnt mind Monero if it wasnt a pain to get actual currency.
>>61010575really ?
>>61010168>check out at the grocery store>saar I have buttcoin card>stand at register for 10 minutes waiting for transaction to complete>trump puts out a tariff tweet>btc dumps 5%>transaction fees increase as people scramble to sell>your $50 worth of btc is no longer enough to pay for the groceries The future of finance
>>61010635kek
>>61010635Spot pricing has been a thing for thousands of years, kike.
>>61010168The tech to too esoteric for normies to understand or use. People constantly send money to scammers or wrong addresses and without a 3rd party to reverse the transaction, many people lose thousands because they are stupid or didn’t do basic research. This is why bitcoin will never be money. T. Bitcoin maxi
>>61010893Technically this can be fixed with having a service in front, which banks should be doing themselves.
>>61010937Yes goy bitcoin is merely a mechanism of inter bank transfer
>>61010168>Enter credit card number>Press order>Done>No gas feesHow is this an improvement over the current system, again? All of my payments are instant already.
>>61010893Decentralization comes at a great cost. No one wants to talk about that, so just enjoy the gains while it lasts.
>>61010960The difference is that you're using real money with BTC instead of fake magic money.
>>61010968Gains in what? monopoly money isnt real.
>>61010993bitcoin is literally fake money anon
>>61010993Real in what sense?
>>61010960There's no improvement, Bitcoiners are like Linux users and their retarded "free" shit: normies don't care and never will
>>61010256It absolutely did happen. It took almost two years (April 2023 through February 2025) for the mempool to clear out after the fucking stupid "NFTs on Bitcoin!" Runes/Inscriptions shit launched. You can see the tail-end of it on the one-year chart, or look at the "all" chart to dig around for the start of it.There was one famous block that had a single transaction in it -- one tiny transaction fee, and then the rest of the entire fucking block was filled with a "comment" as an embedded image. The miners were loving that shit because it drove fees skyhigh, as much as well over 50 sats/vb (minimum of around 6000 sats for a single transaction) to get almost-guaranteed next-block processing.It's also why an absolute shitload of businesses stopped using Bitcoin payments in 2017, because the shitcoin casinos demanded that people pay for their useless shitcoins by selling Bitcoin, so the payment queue was completely fucked for months then, too.https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,1y,weighthttps://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,all,weight>>61010256>>61010222>>61010189You are either exceptionally fucking stupid or completely uninformed about network congestion and fees due to the "NFTs on Bitcoin!" Runes/Inscriptions post-Taproot-upgrade ability to spam the network with stupid NFT shit. Not only did it happen, it did in fact fuck the fee market for almost two years.
>>61010168>Why do we need banks again?to fund barmitzva for little Jacob
>>61011012it is possible to process credit cards with open source software. people are just retarded and think we need le funny libertarian money.
>>61010999Bitcoin took time and effort to collect. Magic federal reserve notes takes zero.
>>61011066hmm if it takes no effort to acquire federal reserve notes then i should probably quit my job and do whatever you're doing to get cash
>>61010168Kek, you even have to wait for ten minutes.When it is an instant confirmation for payment anytime i use my xPortal, no bank hassle. It don't just limit me to crypto alone, I can also use my fiat as well.while you wait for ten minutes confirmation, I have paid and boarded a train.
>>61011070You didnt listen. The creation of federal notes is a scam and magic trick. The only effort was printing the paper to produce it. The rest doesnt even exist as numbers.
>>61010960>No gas feesretard alert
>>61011095all money takes no effort to create anon. it's a social construct.
>>61011117>gold and silver takes no effortstfu
>>61011117> if it takes no effort to acquire federal reserve notes then i should probably quit my job and do whatever you're doing to get cash>all money takes no effort to create anon. it's a social construct.so... listen to op?
>>61011153in one polynesian country they use big round rocks as money. some african countries in ancient times used seashells as money. china has been using cash since at least the fifth century.
>>61010619really.
>>61011159and all those countries economy was ruined the moment others came in and counterfeited - flooded the market, showing that their economy was not using actual valuable things.
>>61010168I use xmoney and its super easy, crypto payment in general is a game changer.
>>61010168but think of the jewish middle men that take 5% profit for every bank transaction
>>61010168full settlement takes a bit longer than 10 minutes. fees for transferring fiat currency are less than bitcoin gas fees.
>>61010168If a coin exists that can LEGITIMATELY make a case for eventual replacement of interchange fees I'd go all in yesterday because the visa/MasterCard/amex transaction fee scam has to end it can't go on but buttcoin can never be used because I'm not waiting ten minutes to buy snacks at seven eleven. Shame!
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>>61012973>fees for transferring fiat currency are less than bitcoin gas fees.Fiat is fake money. Who cares about fees
>>61013039all money settlement that is done at stores today takes 3 to 5 business days. International payments take up to 10 business days. Bitcoin is already faster. All stores basically depend on a "promise" of being paid. You're never paid immediately. The way this bs fiat scam works even with cash is funny af. It's just a promise of payment, but it's an empty promise. Unlike US Notes, you CANNOT redeem anything with Federal Notes. It's literally fake socialism money.
>>61010168>Why do we need banks again?To store cash and to borrow money to buy houses and businesses.
>>61010575if CP ever gets loaded onto the BTC blockchain to be saved there for eternity, monero will moon to prices similar to BTC a couple years ago. why? core devs might be corrupted at this point opening the OP-Return windows to 100kb, you can upload porn this way, sick porn even. this is an attack to bitcoin and most moon-kids are not aware of this. it all starts with the release of core v30, which gets launched by october 2025, i.e. tomorrow. if you never heard of this, you are a moonboy or living under a rock.
>>61014284>store cashYou can do this yourself.>to borrow money to buy houses and businesses.Being forced into a ponzi scheme by the state is not a necessity.
>>61011015the problem started with segwit. before this, witness stuffing did not exist. segwit not only created witness stuffing it gave it a discount and let the data exceed 1 MB. everyone who said no to segwit is still waiting for an apology>>61015231it already did and no it doesn't fucking start with core v30 and it was already happening before 2017
>>61010168>>61010179Soooo, xrp then?
>>61010168I know your thread is pure bait but it's true, man. You can use practically any coin to do transactions and if either party doesn't want to hold that coin specifically then just swap to USDT, USDC, DAI or whatever. PEPE, MOG, SATOSHI, any shitcoin can serve that purpose better than any bank can lol
>>61017453>I know your thread is pure baitNo it isn't. Im being serious.
>>61010168pretty muchwhat I love is no kyc, fuck that
