Does someone know why in the past 2 years or so companies have shifted to damn near requiring 3 or more rounds of interviews regardless of what the position is? Is there some government incentive? Why would you waste this much time and especially have most of those interviews be with pic related who knows nothing about the job?
The economy is structured to be this way. They'd rather hire indians with no experience. That is what the extremely high immigration rates are for.
>>61012906They want to weed people out in phases so that they get the best possible candidate(s). HR is entirely about how hiring can be made more complicated so that the employer gets nebulous benefits from it. When HR has more power than the people that actually do productive work at the company you end up with massively bloated hiring processes that ensure that nothing ever happens. For a bank internship I had to do 2 hour psycho-techinicals, a spontaneous call interview, then an online interview and finally an in person meeting which in total would take around 2 months to complete because they'd ghost you for weeks. Meanwhile at the intership I just got I did two interviews in two days, once with HR and then HR + Senior Devs and they sent me a formal offer the same day.
>>61012906I don't even get interviews. I apply and get rejected outright by some roastie with a degree in art studies. In fact, I don't even think my resume gets read by a human being. My resume probably automatically get sent straight to the digital shredder.
>>61012906Sorry not sure, I don't deal with poor people problems wagie
>>61012906There's a shortage of competent people anon.Wait, more of a crisis of competency. She many fakers trying to make it.3+ interviews make filtering easier.I sit in interviews all the time for good Aerospace jobs.($100,000+ a year)I always ask applicants what their favorite airplane or rocket is.And why they like it.That question alone filters 95% of applicants.
>>61014617>I always ask applicants what their favorite airplane or rocket is.what's an example of a wrong answer where you would bin the candidate?
>>61012906I quit, I hate interviews. I don't want to go through 2-3 rounds of interviews for some stupid 50-80k salaried position.Being told I am meeting with 1 manager only to be ambushed by 3 other senior leaders in a panel that feels more like a Soviet interrogation. I hate society and I don't want to contribute, that is why I gamble. I just want to acquire moderate wealth and be left alone, I don't want to participate in your kiked society. Death to America and death to all glowniggers.
>>61014617be honest if it's a cute attractive woman in STEM do you change your criteria?
>>61014617Do the +3 rounds of interviews really make selecting the best canditate easier? I can’t imagine it doesn’t waste everyone’s time except give hr a fake job to do. How can there be a crisis of competence if people are more educated than ever? I’m in a field where there is big demand (medicine), all i need is one phone call interview and i’m hired. Makes all this modern application bs seem fake when i know what’s it like when there really is a demand.
>>61014617Is there a specific correct answer to it or is the filter simply being able to formulate a coherent response In other words is the general application really that bad?
>>61014697Society isn’t that much worse, if you actually studied history you would know that the utopian trad world never existed.
>>61014719Yeah, we pretty much will pick that over any gifted women.
>>61012906The goal is to find some minor reason to exclude you or have you give up so they can hire ranjeep instead
>>61014719No, we basically don't hire women unless they are ugly and autistic. >>61014760Education is largely meaningless, we don't give a shit about that.All we care about is the interviewer's ability or potential ability to do a job. I can spot retards from a mile away. >>61014761>>6101468490% of people can't even name anything to begin with. And the other 5% give a really basic answer but can't explain why they like it. Good answers would be saying something like: the f111 aardvark, because you like the badass fire ball it can do.Anyone who's interested in aerospace can answer that question. People who can't, aren't actually interested in Aerospace, and there's a 99.999999% chance they'll be a shit hire.
>>61012906met a guy who did 4 rounds of interviews with chainlink labs and got rejected on the 5th.
>>61014952So you are probing for a basic interest and enthousiasme for the field and 95% of candidates fail, i was afraid this was the answer but still bleakI'll assume basic education screening happened before you so this is an even bleaker picture of modern day education and how it has failed the youth
>>61014764Wrong
>>61014952So you’re just screening for interest. Why do you need three rounds of interviews for that?
>>61014617If I had to do this interview I think I would do something wildly different. I would talk about F-Zero, which is entirely fiction, and just elucidate on why I uniquely love F-Zero compared to conventional racing games and concepts. I would talk about the fictional G-Diffuser engine, about the prospect of creating hover cars that operate with jet engines in a setting that allows for insanely high risk racing at obscene speeds, and that in getting into aerospace I could be part of research that brings this incredible fantasy to life. The sleekness of the F-Zero machines that have no actual bearing on their performance beyond making vehicles that look different from one another, versus the actual aerodynamics and how that would or would not matter. I'd talk about how much I think the Blue Falcon machine is, the one used by Captain Falcon. How putting the city from the F-Zero anime that no longer has wheels in its cars revolutionized everything, even simple commuting. Sure, it's fiction, but the Wright brothers were dreamers too. And then I would ask you the same question.
>>61014952Also I'm the F-Zero guy again but it is interesting seeing people respond to you and not understand the purpose of this question and how important it really is at sourcing good candidates. This is the part where I reveal to you that I don't really think much about aerospace at all and have none of the credentials to even set foot into a STEM role. I am a video game designer and developer and also manager of the studio. I am the one who will be scouting and vetting the talent. I know exactly who I won't want on our team.Passion or competence. These are the critical elements for any person you must consider hiring in a space that does work that isn't just a body in a slot.
>>61014952The Su-47, because forward swept wings and canards together might constitute a fetish for me. It's hard to explain why without actually drawing out the lines, but in the same way that certain characters are designed to appear to convey their traits, it just screams speed and agility and aggression. If you were to draw lines at the outer extremities of its flight surfaces, you'd get an angled streak effect like what comic books and manga use to denote extreme action or intensity. It's a flying exclamation mark that can be read in its very geometry; that it's also very visually unique is a bonus itself.Its weakest point for me is that it's not actually symmetrical, which I have a hangup for. One of the tail booms adjacent to the engines is longer than the other, because it contains a parachute instead of the other side's rear-facing radar. It's such a minor thing but gets me right in the autism. But, I guess it's like Hal Emmerich said, every 'character' machine needs a weak point.
>>61015046>But, I guess it's like Hal Emmerich said, every 'character' machine needs a weak point.You're alright, anon.
>>61014952I would have said the F111 for that exact reason and I'm an IT guy with zero qualifications for aerospace. You say education doesn't matter, but you must be screening for it somewhere on the way.
>>61015055You too, F-Zero guy.(What studio/games?)
>>61014952>People who can't, aren't actually interested in Aerospace, and there's a 99.999999% chance they'll be a shit hire.What if I'm more into HGVs and not an airplane chud thoughbeit?
>>61015073Small indie studio, one game released last year and one in development with a demo. I won't shill explicitly so I'll just say this. Your clue is "YOU ARE THE MONSTER" in 2D.
>>61015095I was going to guess Carrion but that came out too long ago. I do like getting to play as the monster, though. I'll have to try and figure it out. Is it on Steam?
>>61014764It's not about utopia, it's about being crushed by taxes (a fair bit historical precedent) but also being controlled and spied upon in personal affairs to a never-before seen degree in human history.
>>61015105We get compared to Carrion a lot but it's only because the genre is so narrow. More like a 2D Medieval Prototype. And yes, on steam.
>>61015121Well you've got me curious, but it's 5am and there are thirty billion demos on Steam to wade through, so I'll have to rain check for now. I'll check back here in the morning if you want to leave any further hints.
>>61015141Our other game is on sale. It involves roulette.Happy hunting.
>>61014986All you have to do is show a degree of competency & you are hired.I personally explained to them the steps on how to rebuild several damaged parts.The part in question was damaged F35a engine shit. ($1,000,000+ price tag) Some retard fell asleep and Reamed the wrong hole.(Another company) But they liked me my answer.>>61015030Oh that litmus question is for the first interview. We typically do four interviews.We also do a hands-on tests , even For some of the engineering positions. You have to rebuild a single barrel carburetor. This also filters out 99% of the retards. Sorry Zoom Zooms, I only want the ones that aren't retarded. >Inb4 boomerNope >>61015056Education is irrelevant because all we care about is the ability to do the job. We have people that have degrees that have absolutely nothing to do with aerospace.You'll find the people have worked in aerospace 15 to 20 years are actually better than any of the new mechanical engineers graduating. That being said, there still are mechanical engineers doing work here. >>61015076>chudI've had 3 girlfriends (biological females that weren't fat)
>>61015164So you’re saying that all four interviews really do help at finding the right canditate and aren’t bloated? Man, i’m happy that i work in a industry where the demand is so high you can get high paying jobs without all that bs.
>>61012906To make you too scared to quit your job.
>>61014617>>61014952>>61015164This is a weird series of responses. On the 1 hand it makes sense for the profession but not so much for trying to get a wagie job of $60k-$80k. They say the education isn't important yet demand hands-on tests which can only come about by... education. I can also understand rounds for these interviews but 4 seems way too much when you could probably reduce it down to 3 at most, maybe even 2. I'm also half tempted to say most of these tests don't apply to the actual job the same way most programming tests have nothing to do with the actual job.Seems much easier to do 2 interviews where the first is basic screening and the other is testing their knowledge of things that are actually done.
>>61012906This is another scheme HR roasties came up with to make it look like their jobs are actually worth anything at all. All they do is waste people's time.
>>61012906i think 3 rounds is reasonable if it's a white collar job and all three interviews are done back to back over zoom/teams, 30 minutes each, non-panel style.it's unreasonable if it's a panel style interview, they stretch it out over multiple days, it's an in-person interview, or if it's more than 3 rounds. the worst one i ever had was 5 rounds over a 2 day period. i told them to cancel the remaining interviews after the 2nd round, fuck that company.t. white collar manager
>>61012906I know when I have applied to FAANG companies they deliberately make the interview process as grueling, time consuming, and miserable as possible so that they don't waste resources interviewing candidates who are only after a job offer to leverage more money out of their current employer.
>>61012906It's part of the liberal spectacle of meritocracy, where you get the position if you show you have the merit to pass the test. Superficially at least. It's really just a group of people who are paid to find legal ways of justifying the hiring of the cheapest labor, since overtly turning away and firing workers is illegal. Just remember that it is their job to appear fair and impartial, but it's really company leadership that wants them to exist.HR departments have a different face during growth phases of a company than they do during stagnation phases.
>>61016305>hiring the cheapest worker is BADare you or are you not a capitalist?
>>61015164>You'll find the people have worked in aerospace 15 to 20 years are actually better than any of the new mechanical engineers graduating.Wow anon that's amazing, people working with 15+ years of experience in the field have more skill than a fresh graduate?
>>61014697I hear you man. I hear you.
>>61016231This is retarded. Instead of 3 interviews, they should get all 3 interviewers together in one room for one single interview. If they still can't figure out whether or not a candidate is good after that interview, then they are all retarded and incompetent (they are, this is rhetorical and the entire economy is fake and gay hence why it is crashing)
>>61015164>I've had 3 girlfriends (biological females that weren't fat)If your vehicle flies slower than Mach 5 lower your tone while talking to me. Chud.
>>61016330That's intellectually dishonest. Paying for the cheapest labor is only a factor if the cost of that labor has no bearing on quality.
This is why I will never take the initiative and go job searching even though I could probably boost my salary. Applying for jobs and interview is a humiliation ritual. I would rather hold onto the job I have and make them lay me off and give me severance.
I wouldn't know, I have never had to apply for a job, was always actively recruited, get good
>>61015148CloverPit?
>>61012906Treat interviews like dates Control the narrative and have them talk more than you. All your answers should flow into a question that gets them talking. I have a hag fetish so miserable HR roasties turn me on, its a lot easier to rizz these creatures when you're attracted to them. These disgusting fucking holes can smell desperation and nervousness, you have to be confident as fuck. Take a 10mg propanolol before if you're too autistic to be confident when pressed.
>>61016330Hiring the cheapest workers only works up to the point that they are actually able to profitably do their given job. Timmy Fuckwill might have taken the job for minium wage, but if he's shit enough he's going to take more money than he ever makes for the company
>>61012906As a hiring manager, If your name ain’t dakwon, Shaquille, or Trayvon, you have to go through multiple rounds. We don’t need to get shot up at work.
>>61013138>When HR has more power than the people that actually do productive workThis. HR is made up of people who talk too fucking much about nothing and themselves (cute young girls, fat chicks, and gays). Like most functions with little productivity, they complicate things to make themselves seem more important and provide illusory value to the company. Productive types simplify, modularize, and scale. HR does the opposite, adding new directives incessantly. I imagine the USSR functioning like this in 1974.
>>61014617>I always ask applicants what their favorite airplane or rocket is.It's funny how a simple question like this is difficult for many to comprehend. There really is alot of dead weight people today.
>>61019538quality doesn't matter. companies have been making shittier and shittier products for decades now. you try to get customer support on the phone and it's a mentally retarded shit skinned niggermonkey from india. you can't even cancel many subscription services. quality of work, quality of product/service -- none of it matters.
>>61021594>you can't even cancel many subscription services.It's so funny it's depressing how real this is.
I went through a 2 month interview process for a job that pays less than $40k USD (live in the UK) and I didn't even get the job in the end because someone had more experience
As someone in tech where 3+ rounds are typical, the thing that pisses me off is seeing management level people have the easiest interviews in the world. My coworkers wife was laid off from microsoft as a director, within 2 weeks she had a lunch interview with someone at a large insurance company, and she was offered a $250k+ director position just from that.No hours long grueling code tests that she had to spend months preparing for, no stupid trivia, no time wasting filters, just simple interview, big offer, in no time at all.What makes her so special that she gets to automatically make over 2x more than what a typical developer makes in my area when all she does is delegate, sit in meetings, and keep on top of things. You could train a high school student to do the same job at 1/4 the pay, there's nothing difficult or technical about it. There should be a lineup of 2000 applicants for any job like that with 10 rounds of interviews if we treated the filtering the same way as developer interviews because there would be that many more viable candidates, not just a one-off lunch interview.
Probably more HR/bureaucratic bloat, justifying their jobs
>>61021751Yes. YES. This shit is fucking maddening. I go through the absolute grinder for tech interviews despite a loaded resume and deep knowledge. My wife's mom/sister go through one retard tier interview to land a $200k manager job at a bank. The kicker is that it's tech management and they know 0 about what we work on. The modern economy is perverse. Almost makes me wish for communism just so all these people could be forced into chains and poverty.
>>61012906Pretty easy IQ test. If you try to walk straight in you're retarded. This puts you in the retard tar pits and is designed to slow you down and help out other businesses by wasting your time their.Really you should make friends with someone at a company they like and they'll get you past all the silly business. If you're applying for a job at a company you haven't AT least talked to three people who work there about you're dumb.
>>61021638My friend webt trough something similiar. If experience is the only thing that matters, why not just screen for it? What do you need four interviews for?
>>61015037>>61015095Your typing style plus this? This site feels rather small.
This is done to weed out retards. You have no idea how much people are incompetent. For a year I have been a hiring manager (male) in a coop with like 20 female HRs. AMA I guess
>>61024281What happened to on the job training? Why are you all now forcing this?
>>61024281>>61024315To elaborate: I do not mean for $100k+ jobs. I mean for jobs that start at even $25. "Entry-level" jobs.
>>61012906Everyone has a degree now and everyone can lie on a resume.It's harder to weed out the frauds, especially when the the people interviewing are half frauds themselves and don't know much about the role they're hiring for.Also, companies just copy each other.If the big ones do a thing, the little ones will start doing it too to feel like a bigger deal themselves. Industries do this with jargon too. Something disruptive happens in an industry, creates new buzz words, industries that have nothing to do with it will butcher the definition if they have to so they can use it too.
>>61012906Yes, HR where's are the reasoning behind this problem but it's the result of post-Covid economics. If you think the average American is struggling in this economy then imagine what the average business is like. In the same way that the average American isn't spending money on new items businesses aren't spending money on new employees. When the average American does spend money they usually want their dollar's worth. Businesses who hire are the exact same. Now this COULD have been prevented if the average American/business wasn't a complete FUCKWIT with their money but apparently nothing has been learned since 2008 except "give kikes money". There SHOULD be backup options and fail safes. There SHOULD have been emergency funds. But there wasn't and now we get this. Unfortunately HR where's are conniving crones, literal witches, who tell the higher ups they can solve their problems. But, in the true nature of women, they over complicate things either out of stupidity and/or to serve themselves. There is no goddamn reason an interview should be 3+ rounds. Instead the interviewing process ought to be able to sort who is a good potential candidate based on their skills or ability to be trained. But women don't want that. They want to make sure you don't give them the ick. Many of these cuntbags lean left and if you get a single Chud in who can identify and solve problems, they might eventually start to trim HR due to lack of efficiency and output. Yes there are companies that are doing this shit so they can appear to be growing or hire H1-Bs but most of it comes from the women offering a "solution" to financially stressed CEOs and butchering it. At this point the best we can hope for is that the economy will become so bad most HR whores are laid off and their retarded programs go with them. That or Chuds need to get into HR and get the women out (however that might help done).Love from Kazakhstan.
>>61025940whores not where's*Yes I am mobile posting. Bite me.
>>61014617>There's a shortage of competent people anon.>Wait, more of a crisis of competency.>>61015164>We typically do four interviews.>You'll find the people have worked in aerospace 15 to 20 years are actually better than any of the new mechanical engineers graduating.yeah... I think the competency crisis is that retards are unable to hire people because they lack common sense. like >>61016764 says, you are stating the obvious. and like other anons said, you are asking kids for interests, not necessarily asking for skills...do you not remember being a kid, desperately trying to find a job and being SO NERVOUS that you forget shit in interviews?be a bit more lenient with the people you are interviewing, you fucking retard.
>>61024281And you can’t weed out the retards with 1-2 interviews? Is 3-4 interviews proven to help weed out the retards better?
>>61026399According to ChatGPT there's no evidence that proves 3-4+ make any difference. At best, it's so retards in management feel more secure about their choice. So basically like an uppity Tinder slut that looks for every little flaw. Basically our management class that lied their ways in now expect everyone to be competent enough to fix their messes. The upcoming recession is going to be so much fun!
This thread is full of brokies. holy shit it must be tragic being a wagie in 2025. HR should do more than 3 just to anger the slaves.
>>61012906DEATHHHHHHHHH TO CORPERATE ROASTIESTHEY AAAAAAAAALWAYS RUIN MY JOB INTERVIEWthe only jobs i got where when i only talked with the department alone without HR
