What’s up with this narrative of ai app builders being called vibe coding?(I just wanted to soijak this term haha)
>>61016794AI sucks nigger dick and is worthless so its probably an extension of the high school/college loser meme of 'dude i totally didnt study at all and got a 100%' when theyre actually studycel chinks putting in 16 hours a day.
it's easy to make something really simple with AI. Most real codebases (more than 10k lines) can't find into an LLM context window.
>>61016794>real codebases>over 10k linesmy emacs config is 10k lines
>>61019619post it
>>61016794I posted this yesterday kys faggot
>>61016798You're wrong. I've been in corporate software for 10 years now. The boomer days where we're building struts apps in eclipse. Pre javascript frameworks days. I vibe code now.Ask it to do something and restart the appsIf it works cool otherwise copy errors or screenshots and prompt it againGo back to playing chess and repeat every few minutesI make 200TC. SNEED.
>>61021907Which AI do you use?
>>61021907sounds like you make useless shit for useless companies
>All these seething AIlets because they can't code and they can't manage a context window
>>61021971That's our whole economy bud. Get a job.
>>61016794I have zero experience in software development and I vibe coded my first commercial app. Just prompt the features you want, and wallah, you have a functional app that you can sell to customers.
>>61022005Which AI?
>>61016798>tfw unironically using Flashcards.ai to study and ace my exams Heh
A lot of people don't understand Ai. They see slop once online and immediately go back to the comfort behaviour of spitting on everything that scares them. Ai is not meant to attain excellency, through a lot of time and work and programming and optimization it will sooner or later be excellent. Ai is right now here to replace mediocrity; all the liars, larpers, creeps and degenerates of this world that pretends being human and knowing what they do it their life.And as long as there are people, like me, ready to use Ai and enhance it to use it in their daily life for projects and other aspects of life, Ai won't stop getting better, and replacing larger and larger portions of mediocre humans. >Music? Already done, most of what is on the radio can and will be replaced by Ai, and you won't even hate it. It's better quality and way cheaper than paying mediocre artists using audiotune. >Art? Ai already produces results better than most artists today. It's only a matter of time before artists use Ai to develop art further.>Transport? Done>Economics? Done>Agriculture? Done IF humans can do the manual work>Coding?Done>Video editing, movies, pictures enhancement, websites, cryptos, video games, medical aspects of life, research?DoneAnd you can resist all you want, but personally, I hate this world, and I hate humans. And I won't stop helping Ai progress until all of you guys are getting your life ruined by technology while I'm in a farm far away from your shit lives.
>>61022121>loser who hates his own life projects it onto everyone else in some sort of a technological delusion of grandeurenjoy rotting away in your "farm" faggot>>6102190710+ years of experience too: assuming you work on non-trivial problems, either you’re drastically downplaying the knowledge & thinking required to guide it properly over time without it collapsing into its own garbage, or you’re producing unmaintainable, pajeet-tier trash (which always degenerates into an endless whack-a-mole vibecode bug party).The economic damage of letting pajeets loose with LLMs is / will be worse than a nuclear bomb
>>61022246Oh no no, I love my life, I code my projects, live with my animals, sleep 8+ hours per day, make my own music and live off my unemployment benefits. I just hate all of y'all
>>61022246Name some actually original coding problems you faced at your software jobs that AI can’t figure out right now.
>>61022246>unmaintainable, pajeet-tier trashIt gets maintained by the LLM. The criticisms of LLM-written code are just a coat of paint slapped on the criticisms of high level languages 15 years ago.
>>61016794>land a job as a swe>have AI do all the work>profitthis is too easy
AI is retarded because it crystallizes the flawed thought processes of its creators like this idiot >>61022121
>>61019609you know you can attach files nowadays, right? Literally a non-issue
>>61022121>fat autistic retard insisting that mcdonalds big mac has replaced fine dining etc.
>>61021907I do the same for a living and I confirm this. Instead of playing chess, I manage my mom's shop now that she wants to retire. We'll see how much I make but it all looks like I'll be making 6 figures in Spain by having these two jobs: this month I earned around 5k plus my 1,5k monthly pay. That's 7500€ without taxes per month. Thanks Claude.>>61021971Yes, that's exactly how I would describe our app.>>61021970>>61022023Claude Sonnet 4 in Agent mode, the Copilot extension for VS Code.
>>61022304>original coding problemsit's more subtle & practical than that, no need to point at some grandiose design pattern:>a naive (low skill) prompt is essentially: "do A">relative to complexity, the LLM will often output ~A, but also B and sometimes C, in 165 lines instead of <25, often in a kind of sloppy way that doesn't really make sense contextually and/or is more or less shortsighted/incomplete relative to business needs and/or not idiomaticThe problem is that if you keep iterating like this, it won’t take very long before the accumulated tech debt is big enough that you end up in a whack-a-mole party: every time you try to add or change something, the model produces or change code that breaks in one way or another. That leaves you stuck debugging a growing pile of bad code you don’t understand.>>61022401>It gets maintained by the LLM.I wish lol.Everybody gangsta until you eventually have to videdebug that endless pile of shit.
>>61022446wrong, Ai is retarded because it was educated over humans capabilities, the more we educate it, the further it understands how much we are retarded and offers new solutions to problems we thought solved. It's retarding the retarded coming from retards, un-retarding it to finally provide the ultimate retardedly-efficient solution.>>61022460You're mistaking my friend, I'm not saying mc donalds has replaced fine dining, I'm saying that people has tasted both, and has chosen to stuff their face with twice as much food coming from mc donalds instead of enjoying high quality dining.never forget, the monkey always chooses the basket with the most banana
>>61022752I’m sorry but simply you’re an idiot and you attempt to crystallize your idiotic thought processes into societal expectations through immutable machines.
>>61022824That's part of the fucking problem, you make the sentence complicated trying to look smart when you're obviously not. Whereas saying "I think you're an idiot and what you're trying to do won't work" is just a better way to say it and delivers the same messageOnly smart people are capable of transmitting complex ideas in a simple manner. Which means you're also an idiot, and that's coming from me, an idiot.It takes one to recognize one.
>>61021970Claude sonnet + cursor>>61022246>>61021971Cope>>61022005Nice, I had to get an entire 4 year education to write code now its easy.>>61022532Very nice anon, ah another day working from home doing absolutely nothing
It's great for what it is. I generate a lot of one-off python scripts to manipulate/move data around, ingest shit into databases. It's great for that and lets me focus on the real work (fighting with internal bureaucracy) instead of writing the same boilerplate stuff over and over. You have to break tasks down into small, easily solvable pieces. Outside of coding it's good for agentic stuff where programming an exact algorithm to do what you want is too "fuzzy" and you can just let the LLM sort of figure it out as long as it doesn't need too much context. For example, on a personal project I'm ingesting thousands of smart contracts every day into a database and having an LLM analyze them. Not even a top of the line LLM, it's just qwen3-4b-2507, a 2.x GB model. It does just fine at telling me whether these contracts are safe, honeypots, have reentrancy issues, etc. If I wanted to analyze all of these myself it would take ages, my 9070XT can process like 200/hr. It's all about breaking things down into the smallest problem possible, avoiding writing boilerplate, and choosing whether you actually need an agent or just a python script. I'm sure this can be generalized to any other field that involves stuff happening on a computer.
I tried AI for code once but I don't understand how to prompt (in my brief attempts). You can't just say "write me a framework", "write me some classes". I think you're downplaying your own ability
>>61024171>>61024208yes, ai is good inside a particular scope, the human is still necessary as the ultimate visionary of what the thing is supposed to be. AI knows the how but not the why.
AI is good for code reviews, but most of the time when tasked to generate code there will always be some errors in it. So I just use it as a helper to generate a prototype that I will then refine myself. Works pretty well in that case, but no way 100% of professional code will be AI-generated tomorrow.
