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>Should've already entered a recession by now
>Massive money printing and rapid devalue of the USD is keeping the US and world economy on life support

Do you think this can go on for a few more years?
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>>61017817
I don't see why not
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Thank goodness they changed the definition of recession. The normie cattle won't panic.
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>>61017817
AI nigger bullshit is the only thing holding up the fake and gay economy. recessions are based on vibes. when AI falls it will bring everything down with it.
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Central banks have demonstrated pretty clearly over the past 15 years that the moment they see cracks in the financial system, they'll re-initiate QE and print as much money as necessary to patch up the cracks.

Assets might lose value in real terms, but in nominal terms they will appear to gain value. The only losers are people selling off their assets, expecting to be able to buy in lower
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>>61017843
The amount of normgroids saying get out of cash has me starting to pile up cash
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>>61017868
shoe shine boys arent the bottom of the pyramid anymore theres entire third world countries coming online shitting up the internet and buying our bags
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>>61017868
Most people have known this for 5-10 years and positioned themselves accordingly. Normies are always late to the party, but that doesn't mean the underlying theory is wrong. Good luck with your contrarian position
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>>61017885
>t. bottom level janitor
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>>61017887
It’s still too early to sell hard.
>>61017885
They are 10 years late to realizing buying assets, any assets are the smart play
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>>61017899
>>61017909
i look at this chart and wonder if the financial world is ponzier and sillier now than 25 years ago. im betting yes
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>>61017929
Stuff breaks when there’s this much financial engineering and there’s a flight to cash no matter how jacked M2 is. I’m talking about deflation from a bust and not a shrinking money supply
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>>61017868
The amounts in cash right now are record highs lol. Serf mentality
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>>61017972
Being in a hurry to sell assets is serf mentality
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>>61017817
this is going to be so hilarious
anon we are coming out of a recession into a new growth cycle
the biden admin faked all the official numbers, printed to keep the stonks from collapsing and had msm run cover for it all
the march 2023 bank crisis was it, that was this cycles 2008 lehman moment, it was also the time to go all in all assets
that is the power of money printing

anyways i cant believe i get to live to a repeat of this, but just like in 2009 when every retard went short the market the recovery happened
and people seethed about it that it wasnt the apocalypse for years while being utterly sidelined
it is just the same now every retard calls for the end of the world and assets gongo
in 5 years this will be legendary mines of salt
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>>61017868
I’m stacking cash too. Look at SOFR for example, it’s saying that money is actually tight right now for financial institutions. This guy explains it well:
https://youtu.be/46-oDfeyNrw
They’ve been tapering for years. Dollar supply is contracting, especially now with less government stimulus in the form of high yields. Credit crunch is happening. Student loan payments restarted, COVID era mortgage assistance scams just came to an end, job market going to shit… now feels like a good time to be selling off all these assets that are mooning, not buying them. We might have another few months of run-up in assets but I think the music is about to stop. Of course almost as soon as everything really starts falling apart they’ll start up the money printers again and you’ll need to hurry up and buy again, but I’m betting on some good deep pullbacks across the board first.
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>>61017817
A while, if Trump decides that he wants to go back to normalcy and having the US be the house of the world's poker table.

That's a big if because he has quack theories about the economy and is surrounded by quacks that want to make Americans poor again, so things will probably get worse.
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>>61017817
Liquidity cycle is still on track, peak will be first quarter 2026
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>>61017830
this is the boat im in. if we can go from 20 trillion to 40 why not 40 to 60? it'll just double the price of everything again, which the powers that be are very willing to do. the only question in my mind is when do things get so bad for the under class they start to fight back? that is the only time the music is going to stop and people are going to run for the chairs.

>nvidea valued more than the economy of germany
i mean come on this tells you something, it's not real.
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>>61018396
>the only question in my mind is when do things get so bad for the under class they start to fight back? that is the only time the music is going to stop
im preparing to bug out at the first new signs of oil supply trouble
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>>61018396
but germany is in a truly terrible conditions right now, sounds about right actually
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>>61017817
The Fifth Kondratiev Wave is coming to an and whether the fed wants it or not. All this kicking and screaming and money printing will do is delay it, but winter will eventually come.
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>>61017972
That money isn't in the hands of the people. You can't that much inflation if the people have no money, and they have plunged main st. into a depression for a while now to get inflation under control. Just because the stock market doesn't collapse doesn't mean the we aren't in a depression. They can manipulate the market any way they want. The breadlines are welfare cards.
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>>61017817
>Should've already entered a recession by now
Dude I don't give a fuck about "should've," analysis, /biz/ doomer babble, or financial media bullshit. The only thing you should care about is the SPX 200 day average. If it crosses down sell your shit. That's it.

Stop listening to stupid-ass personal and ideological-driven bullshit. The same people who swore 2022 was not a recession under Biden will SCREAM OVER AND OVER the same condition is a recession under Trump. I'm a Democrat and know progressive media cannot be trusted if you want to make money. Find your own objective indicators.
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>>61017817
>Do you think this can go on for a few more years?
It's been going for decades, a few years are just a blip
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>>61019884
> buy high, sell low
kek retard
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>>61019924
I really hope you're still bagholding the next time it falls below the 200 day MA. You'll learn the hard way.
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>>61018436
kek'd
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>>61019884
>sell the dip
lmao what
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>>61017817
You’re dumb as shit anon holy shit learn to read a chart and know how to use the fractal meme correctly
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>>61017817
The recession was outsourced to US colonies.
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>>61020153
>fakes out below 200 ma and recovers violently within a week.
your move?
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>>61017817
They will try to keep it alive until AI starts pumping economy
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Look at Japans debt-to-gdp relative to the US. They can keep kicking the can down the road for a few more years
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>>61017817
>>61018396
>massive inflation

bullish for gold

>wagies revolt

bullish for gold

TLDR: buy gold
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>>61018396
>confusing stocks and flows
I'm going to take your money. Thank you.
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>>61017817
The entire West has been in a recession since at bare minimum 2008 and has used mass migration to make it appear to the public that the economy is growing. They count government spending aka money printing as GDP so when productivity goes down they print more money to spend on useless bullshit (and likely pad the market) and it looks like GDP is steady. They bring in the migrants who require goods and services to again bolster negative growth.
The whole market is a charade.
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>>61023198
True
To add: the printed money that can't fit into the real economy gets funneled directly into the market, that's why line goes up
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>>61023198
>mass migration
True.
Also, money printing makes the rich richer and the rich increase their spending. The top 10% make up 50% of the consumption
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>>61018396
> the only question in my mind is when do things get so bad for the under class they start to fight back?
Kek.
The under class. Fuck them. They will never fight back. The rich get rich. They have lost so much since 2020.
In 2021, the top 1% lost 21 trillion and the bottom 99% lost 21 trillion.
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I don’t know OP, based on the chart you posted I’m thinking we’ve defeated bear markets after 2008.
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>>61017817
>Massive money printing
when was the last QE
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>>61023396
Well, they're the ones who own the companies that provide the services so increasing the population increases their profits.
It's essentially a pyramid scheme.
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Nothing's going to happen because the people who run shit own gold, stocks and islands and not dollars.
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>>61023506
And their wealth and consumption grows but quantity of goods dont increase. Therefore, inflation.

Wagies literally exist for the rich now.
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>>61023614
It's basically a modernised, technocratic version of slavery turned up to 11.
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>>61023625
I like
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I like how it is. Everyone feels that recession coming, but it never comes so my gold just keeps gaining value without anything climax
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>>61023751
*Any climax to drop the price back down later on.



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