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History will remember that they didn't import enough violent Africans to save themselves.
At this point, we are even more Italian than Italians themselves. We can't rule ourselves. Just let Germany invade us.
>>61048980>debt to GDP is 115%>have to pay crazy interests to finance this welfare zoo>PM resigns>New PM comes in>sees the finantial pickle>resignsThis is great to watch. The government won't call for new elections but every PM just refuses to rule under those conditions. How long until the government just shuts down and the country falls into anarchy? It would be great to see local governments take over public services and become a fragmented Europe again.
I AM SCARED FRENCH BROS
Are we even worse than Italy right now? I used to find some solace in the fact that we were simply better than all those fuck ups from Southern Europe, but we are in such a vicious circle that who the hell knows
>>61049144there is a solution, but it'd require all sorts of radical changes that would collapse the EU itself.
>>61049214Nazis would have become what Japan is right now. They weren't against welfare, just against other races. In the end, any country with welfare ends up with a dependant class thaty drags down the productive class so they can keep leeching off them.Charity should always be voluntary. If you force charity through the government the poor become arrogant and bitter because they blame their suffering on you and not themselves. They won't work themselves out of poverty either because it would strip them from their privileged protected class.
>>61049310>what japan is right nowA vassal of the US after losing the war and being infiltrated by the usual suspects over the course of a 100 years to open the floodgates for streetshitters and niggers?Gee, you're right, I guess the current state of Germany and Europe as a whole is much better.At least all the men still living who fought that war can look around and see the wonderful fruits of their (forced) sacrifice is right?
>>61049310you're completely talking out of your arse and projecting our modern goyslave welfare system with the third reich, which is retarded. The modern welfare state is an almost total-inversion of the third reich welfare system, which was oriented around stable, prosperous families and a pro-eugenics system. You simply don't know, what you don't know. Be careful when giving financial advice on here, you could cost someone alot of money with your ignorance.
>>61048980It's over for the EU isn't it?
>>61049009kek
>>61049457oops, this post was meant for >>61049373
>>61049465Why? I'm not the one that was saying the nsdap would have turned Germany into a modern welfare state. My entire post was to emphasize that the current state of these countries is much worse than if they were modeled after nsdap philosophy.
And that them losing the war has had disastrous consequences.
>>61049460we can only hope
>>61049460Yes, with this collapse will come others resulting in the crash of the eussr, The Nation State will return, National currencies and National Borders, every sub human they flooded in to use against us will be forced out back to the stone age where they belong.
>>61049457Of course I am talking out of my arse, Germany's eocnomy was just a war economy with workers slaving away to achieve their conquests and hopefully pay the debt incurred during those years.In peace time, Germany would have fallen to the same poison that is welfare. You can bitch and whine about muh Hitler but germans remained germans after the defeat. And Germany fell into the same vices and welfare shit in the 60s and onwards.
>>61049507oh, im half asleep and misquoted twice, i give up anon, mb.
>>61049009It’s time to let happen what should have already happened in WW1 (Germany winning).
>>61049581I highly doubt the EU mindset will be gone in western EU countries. The people behind it will still have control.
>>61049144>i want a weak fragmented europeAre you american or russian?
>>61049616Lol, happens. At least you're not mind raped by kikes like that anon tho.>>61049639European countries weren't exactly weak before, but ever since becoming a collective they've just been a piggy bank for rats. Personally I don't see a problem with euros being some kind of confederation but as with everywhere else in the west, we really need to take care of all of the parasite issue before anything else can be done.
>>61049460100%.EU is fugged, their leaders are all pansies.Meanwhile American deportations are going parabolic. Europeans are too soft, all there is to it. Just like the old days.
It's telling that the EU has decided to supplicate itself at the foot of China, rather than the US, and it's apparently not even in their Overton window that they're, like, supposed to be par rivals with both of those.
>>61049716I'll believe it when they're scarce in Texas>they'll never be scarce until they roll back and also deport anchor babies that should never have existed in the first place
>>61049639British mate.
anyway, how do i profit from this?
If you are white and you still live in France in 2025 you deserve everything that is coming to youI'm just angry that i still co-own two flats in Paris with my sister who refuse to sell and thinks "prices will go back up"I'm so happy i left this fucking shithole led by a bunch of cucks and flooded by the third worldHitler should have nuke Paris when he could do itt. french
Watching the fall of France in my fully paid penthouse in Eastern Europe on a rainy day while listening to "Moi... Lolita" during a Bitcoin bull run is peak comfy i have to admit
>>61048980bullish xrp
We are getting so close to Southern Europeans. What the hell happened to us? I don't wanna be in the same group as the greeks or italians
>>61050275they are in a better situation than you, idiot.
>>61050275You shouldn't have accepted the Latin brainwashing
>>61049639a fragmented yurop is stronger than a raped by rootless antiwhite bureaucracy jew-roped peon (((union)))>have most unpopular government of all time>flooded with hostile foreigners>rights and liberties stripped away>economy in shambles>"yeah, we need more of this"
is there any solution other than cutting the gibs and allowing boomercide to happen?immigration used to be the default NPC response, but the fact that immigrants (especially unskilled) are a net negative to an economy has started becoming increasingly accepted
>>61049639If governments become small and localized they are easier to control for the population. We wouldn't be flooded by niggers if each big city had its own government.
>>61050326It's the only reasonable solution. Let the boomers pay the bill they incurred through living in luxury throughout their lifespan.Kick the immigrants and reform the welfare state so you can lower taxes without getting into more debt. All the money you pay in taxes could be reduced by 50% and you could invest it in something productive instead of giving it to Shaniqua to have another nigglet that will rob and kill people. It's a literal positive feedback loop.
>>61049639Europa was a whore that fucked literal bulls
>Buy government bonds>Government shuts down, country effectively no longer existsRemind me why BTC is at an all time high? Such an easy trade.
>>61049587you mean the third biggest economy in the world?what the fuck are you even babbling about>slave away>welfarethose arent even the sameyoure just babbling total nonsense
>>61050383we wouldnt be flooded with niggers if the US never sat foot in Europe
>>61049639>>61049752>British mate.what a surprise, a british cunt still supporting the same antieuropean policies they always did
>>61048980How high is the chance they do an argentina and default?
>>6105061599%The average french would rather die than reduce taxes and pensions.And let's not even talk about browns, they would support anything as long as it allows them to riot and go looting nearby storesT. French
>>61050383Yeah we would either be flooded by Russian soldiers or be completely dependant on american economic policies.
>>61050505Exactly, you can never trust a person who wants EU gone.
>>61050825the guy youre talking to is britishtheir desire has always been to destroy europe
>>61048980Is it the regular French boomer + welfare crowd chimpout? Tbh, should reduce the pinions. Show boomers that there major drawbacks for having less kids.
>>61049144t. American who's even worse on all those metrics
>>61050833I am British. I will tell you how I feel.I remember my parents/older folks complaining about poles coming to the UK & other Europeans. As far as I'm concerned, if they are from Europe (yes even Romania!) they are brothers to me.Nazi Germany is retarded for economics but we are at a point where people will look though the lens & truely believe if they won it will be better because we litterly lost, there is no home land for EU cucks anymore. UK left the EU and nothing changed, infact it got far worse they punished the plebs for daring to speak up.Who is not a brother is not from Europe. So Muslims/Aficans completely shitting up the place. It is sad that Europe is bascially done for, I always used to think the chuds who said *its over* and all that crap were over reacting but truely it is over. The UK I see today (looking like France, not as badly fucked but its only a matter of 1-2 years before we see the same upheavel) is not the country I grew up & defo not my parents. Every city is just full of non-europeans.The idea of a united Europe is beautiful, but it is impossible as the goy slave must suffer. I am only glad I fucking made whilst being British, which is a fucking miracle on itself. I would not want to be a poor goy in UK right now holy shit.
>>61051004You can't blame it all on boomers. They might benefit from it but most French people seem to be very against lowering pension rates or increasing the retirement age. It's not 75-year-olds that take to the streets whenever the issue comes up.
>>61051156I guess, but it is what it is. Old should have thought about these issues in their youth. Now the focus should be on young people, making them raise families, not to prop up boomers.
Os europaneleiros deviam ser empalados com uma vara de 5 metros.
>>61051334os franceses são panascas arabes
>>61050275>I don't wanna be in the same group as the greeks or italians
>>61051352Honestly, we French are completely different than the southern europeans. We are right now in bad shape but we are so much better is unreal. I'm sure we'll be back and stronger, you can't compare shititalians or greeks to us.
>>61049144And r*dditers still act like investing in the US is a bad idea cuz blumpf bad. Yeah go enjoy your failed euro states.
>>61051524what makes you think that? the average french is a retarded poorfaggot leftists with shit for brains or a centrist boomer.I think it's time for natural selection since we didn't accept eugenism.
France will always be the most important European country. Who speaks Greek? Who speaks Italian? You don't have our painters. Our architecs. We are simply better. We have a sensitivity other European countries simply don't have. We are better
>>61052328seeking refuge in the (((dollar))) is just kicking the can down the road and allowing for your country to become increasingly blacked and humiliated. the only escape from total kalergification and negrification is to escape from the goy plantation of the dollarjew, which will be extremely painful, but necessary
>>61052369>who speaks greek?the greeks>who speaks italian?the italians>who speaks french?the moroccans, the algerians, the cameroonians
>>61052369everything has an end. Human life, countries, civilisations, religions, everything spawn and then disappear into the eternal void.French chose to wipe themselves out so algerian drug dealers could live a tranquil and unbothered existence. They chose to worship man on man anal sex, abortion, socialism, and that will be the end of this fucking country
>>61052385Kek
>>61052385fucking kek
>>61049639>weak fragmented europeAre you implying it's strong right now?It's the weakest it's ever been in the last 500 years.One single country used to be a major power now it's a gay soviet union
>>61052385this turned me into the OP's post
>>61052450Jesus christ, everything about this post is two digit iq extremely uninformed takes. This place truly has been filled with low class retards. It’s over for 4chan.
>>61052369>>61052385
>>610527644chan has always had the most frustrating retardation mixed in with really insightful and nuanced discussions. You get both tails of the IQ bell curve, whereas on reddit it’s all midwits downvoting each other.
>>61049009At least we aren't speaking German amirite
>>61051051no problemstay strong
>>61050275lol
>>61052369>France will always be the most important European countryare you living 200 years in the past?lmao
>>61049310>They weren't against welfarelmao what?the nazis had LOTS of welfare
>>61052385gottem kek
>>61052369lol, what a postI'm Spanish man, and just as it's bizarre to me how (some) Americans are blind to the fact that their status as the world's reigning power has done nothing but sag after the turn of the millenium, I'm befuddled when I see Euros claiming some divine, leading status sometimes from relevant countries like Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Britain, but sometimes from tiny hovels most people don't think of for monthsthe Empire fell (the American is in the process of falling), and one must accept this if he wants to confront reality as it isso wake up, Jacqueswake up and smell the Seine
>>61055069like what?
>>61048980>government collapsesAmericlap here, what the fuck does that even mean? Who's running the country if the government collapses? Did everyone just up and resign all at once? Are your politicians not elected to terms? Who's in charge over there?
>>61052369Mate. Britain exists so you will always only ever be the second most relevant european country, at best and only really if the Germans allow it. You have nothing except boundless, abundant, irrational arrogance.
Who the fuck would unironically buy French government bonds? I don't like anything that has to do with France, why on earth would I be giving money to their government? I'd rather kill myself, unironically.
>>61056973>Who the fuck would unironically buy French government bonds? I don't like anything that has to do with France, why on earth would I be giving money to their government?isn't it the exact opposite?their government gives you money (interest)
>>61057057They're giving me money but only after I give them money. Everyone who is business savvy knows not to give French people money. It's the same as beggars, you just don't enable their freeloading activities. If France wants to finance their government spending, they're going to have to work their lazy asses off to do it, I'm not giving them a dime.
>>61057057You give them money first. The interest is inflated away.
>>61057073>>61057078so what, in the end you get net positive and they go net negativedo you really think they'll let their government implode and fail to pay debts?let me remind you that nothing ever happens
>>61057107>do you really think they'll let their government implode and fail to pay debts?We're talking about France. Yes. Baguette mongoloids don't work.
>>61049179I AM SCARED TOO MON AMIC'EST LA FIN!
>>61057120has this ever happened though? since the french revolution
>>61050246>>61050265ok coward-sama, don't expect to be able to come back if we ever get our country back, you ain't welcome.
>>61057212I'm not the one responsible for the news, clearly they're completely unable to manage their country's economy and fiscal policy. Just because it hasn't happened in the past, doesn't mean that it can't happen. Macron driving up the retirement age caused an insane amount of backlash, clearly the French just don't like to work and don't want to work. They're not the most industrious nation in the world, history and time is a testament to that fact. You can't base your entire economy on made up things like fashion or whatever gay wine is popular at the moment. Nobody ''buys French'' (whatever the fuck that even means lmao).
>>61049581Quite the opposite actually. Once France collapses the EU will either assume control or appoint a government. The nation state will not return. The thing that is useless in this day and age is the local government.
>>61057258Incredibly grim
>>61057263fucka ll will change for you unless you're in the political class and even then I doubt much will be different. The grimm part is how little things would actually change if all EU nation states disappeared under the banner of the EU.
>>61057245▶Macron driving up the retirement ageits the only play here. their retirement age is like 64. in germany its 67 and they are already in talks to bumb it up to 70. if they want to retire earlier they can always put money aside on their own.
>>61057296Sure, that would make sense but that will just trigger more rioting. What do you call a frog that's chimping out? A hippity hoppity happening?
>>61057296>if they want to retire earlier they can always put money aside on their own.in the most taxed nation on earth + with uberrampant inflation? OK good luck with that. Plus while would you accept to contribute with 10% of your monthly paycheck for the retirements' ponzi during 40+ years if you know you wont see a single dime back?People are very demoralized by this shit. I agree driving up the age to 100+ is the only solution left, but that's not enough, we MUST cut the current pensions by 50%. And more important we must do something about the big medic-pharma mafia, they are bleeding us dry with the help of hypochondriac boomers & roasties.
>>61057357>What do you call a frog that's chimping out? A hippity hoppity happening?
>>61057296Or they can just release the rejuvination gene therapy to make old people not old anymore and completely remove pensions. But they're too retarded to do that.
>>61048980I heard their debt is high.Europe won't survive the next decade.
>>61057296>>61057369>french pensioners earn more than the workersnothing to see here
>>61057245what you call french fashion is in fact chinese
Can't even afford the guillotines anymore.
