Are we actually fucked?
Only for "investors." There will be a bubble pop, but it will ultimately be a good thing as all of that capital/revenue that was being wasted on AI will get rerouted back to real, good, useful things. We're in a sick clownconomy right now that looks good for stocks but is hurting the common man in most respects.
>>61050597This is kind of half true, but everyone will feel the pain. I was a year out of high school during the GFC, stagflation isn't fun for the lower class. No good jobs, everything's fucking expensive, everyone was broke as fuck. Careful what you wish for
>>61050587Deutsche Bank is known for being insolvent
>>61050630There really needs to be a correction, but yes unfortunately that also means people will suffer in the short term so that we get back on track for the long term. I got out of college at the height of COVID, it took me two years to get on track again professionally.
>>61050587Are you stupid or something? Why are you looking for economic advice from some German bank? Germanys economy is fucked and they(just like everyone else) want the us to feel the world economic strain. >Are we actually fucked?I am not, most Americans are though. Have you been affected by the increased cost of living? Then you are fucked. If you didn’t make it off of the Covid bull run you have a chance now, pray for a burst and invest heavily. AI companies are over evaluated that is true, but the federal reserve has proven themselves from preventing a full crash and just putting us into another Great Recession. Bubbles will burst and companies will go out but the big guys will be okay, and remember buy on the dip sell at the ath.
>>61050587the US is going bancruptprepare accordinglyat least France tries to get their budget under control
>>61050587>taking financial advice from nu 'germans'
>>61050655Checked, yes there will be a correction bro. Probably a fucking big one, but most people dont even realize how "good" they have it. Every broke retard has an iPhone and $100 pair of shoes, they haven't experienced real suffering like what is inevitably coming
>>61050720It’s going to hit everyone. Someone I know at a Fortune 50 company had all of their co-workers canned in the past few weeks, and now they have their responsibilities with no pay bump.
>>61050630We have already been feeling the pain. This is an economy of pain.
>>61050630yes.its practically a meme at this point to say that a huge majority are so financially fucked right now that its nearly beyond belief. if the mag 7 go tits those people are even more incomprehensibly screwed.
>>61050770>It’s going to hit everyone. Someone I know at a Fortune 50 company had all of their co-workers canned in the past few weeks, and now they have their responsibilities with no pay bump.I am at a fortune 10 and this has been a slow roll since right after covid..continuous waves of people getting let go...
>>61050587Deutsche Bank cant' even stay solvent, it should worry about itself not the MAG 7.AI is the future, anything else is cope.
>>61050906meanwhile in reality
>>61050597
>>61050770>>61050800>>61050879Wish all you bros good luck, hopefully youve been stacking up some hard assets and arent still living in any major cities. This is typical 4th turning shit, just got to survive the next few years......there will be some great opportunities for whoever is prepared and paying attention
>>61050587AI bubble is under valued. Few understand how big AI is. It literally btfo at least 50% of the work force
>>61050673Misleading stats. These are in single months but tax receipts have seasonal variation.
It'll crash, but recover. I'm waiting to break even on my stocks and sell what I have.
>>61050673I feel better about the US than Canada and European countries.They've had to make cuts to social programs and increase retirement age while bringing in millions of non-skilled migrants who are using their resources.Germany's growth has been flat or negative for three years and they're supposed to be Europe's backbone
>>61051775AI may eventually lead to another industrial revolution but right now the applications the big companies worked on are fake and gay.
>>61051864People don't really get it, they still buy media nonsense. The US is holding the line, others are continuing to drown.
>>61050587Yes. Trump inflated the mother of all bubbles, while crushing non-servuce sectors with tariffs, and has accelerated dedollarization so much the dollar lost 10-15% of its value since April.>>61050597Those investors having money determines whether or not you can get a job or a loan.
>>61050597That capital has already been spent; unless you can find a bag holder for those GPU's you aren't getting it back, and I have a feeling the only willing buyer will be the US govt.
>>61051921>Those investors having money determines whether or not you can get a job or a loan.No it doesn't. They've been doing swimmingly and also laying off half my industry. So they can go ahead and eat a dick and die.
>>61050587what exactly will happen? OpenAI and Claude stocks dip? X gets shutdown? Gemini app stops loading? MSFT gets an Anglo CEO?
>>61051838>Misleading statsnot really
there's always some doomsaying going on. prove it you pussy.
>>61050931You're broke nigga, that's the reality. Keep on seething
so much for that
I work for a MNC, so far we are fine.
>>61050639Most of the big banks in America went insolvent too. What's your point?
>>61051864>increase retirement age while bringing in millions of non-skilled migrants who are using their resources.The same is happening in the US
I'm a blacksmith, this fancy power loom shit can make a carpet 20% faster but who cares, it's pathetic and will never find any uses in metalworking. Who cares anyway, it can't even sew a shirt, only people who made cloth are affected.
>>61054148is this related to AI?
>>61054186No, the comment about the power loom and blacksmith is not directly related to AI. It's an analogy being used to express a viewpoint about the current state of AI and its impact. Analogy ExplainedThe blacksmith's perspective on the power loom is a historical parallel intended to frame a modern opinion about AI technology.The Power Loom is meant to represent current AI technology.The Blacksmith represents a skeptic or an observer whose industry (like many today) is not immediately and obviously impacted by the new technology.The Blacksmith's Dismissiveness ("pathetic," "will never find any uses in metalworking") mirrors the skepticism that some people feel about the broad utility and revolutionary claims of AI today.The Focus on Cloth/Carpet Making ("only people who made cloth are affected") represents the idea that current AI benefits are narrow or only affect specific, often white-collar, sectors like content creation, data analysis, or software development, rather than having a truly universal impact yet.The Point of the AnalogyThe person who posted the blacksmith comment is likely using this historical example to make one of two points in the "AI bubble" thread:AI is Underhyped or Misunderstood: That just like the power loom eventually revolutionized manufacturing and society far beyond cloth-making, current AI advances are more significant than skeptics realize and will soon affect every industry, including those that currently feel safe (like the blacksmith).AI is Overhyped but still Impactful: That while current AI may not be an immediate, universal bubble-bursting revolution (the blacksmith is right for now), it is still a foundational technology that will incrementally change specific industries (like cloth-making/data processing) with significant economic consequences, thus justifying the discussion about a "bubble."
>>61050661this comment is so fucking based
>>61051878^this the 2001 bubble was a correction because we thought we were further along than we were with tech and internet companies, took till 2009 for their evaluations to start making sense again
>>61054202pretty impressivethanks
>>61054270that's the dumbest, fastest and free to use gemini 2.5-flash model from google, imagine what they are cooking behind closed doors for billions of dollars
>>61054290I better notwhat do you think they are cooking?
>>61054308>what do you think they are cooking?Avatar of God
>>61054315What for?
>>61054324To instantly post an immunity doggo in reply to every "reply to your post or your mom dies in her sleep" post so that everyone's mom is safe
>>61051921he's doing the same shit as biden but 10x faster cause theyre all owned by kikes
>>61054331Im just trying to figure out how these trillions of AI investment will ever bring back money to these companies
>>61051864>and they're supposed to be Europe's backboneAnd according to your retard logic this means everyone else in Europe is even more precarious than Germany, rather than the reality which is that only a few countries -- certainly not the PIGS -- is as bad of as Germany?
everything is fine.
>>61054370whats that showing?
>>61054362Really? If they’re successful, they can lease AI agents to companies to replace all sorts of employed positions so that companies can cut staff and save on payroll. That’s how they get a return on the investment.
>>61054405Some custom basket on a paywalled hedge article.
>>61054481I dont get it, why is it important?
>>61054528Are you stupid? The thread is about the ai bubble. moron. Go back to twitter.
>>61054547>UBS low quality baskethow the fuck am i supposed to know what the fuck that is?are you autistic?
>>61050673>at least France tries to get their budget under controli am from france and this is the most hilarious shit i've read today
>>61054475Do you understand how numbers work? It’s trillions. Look at the Us GDP. Even if you took every single payroll department’s outflow and funneled it back to “AI” for “them algrithms” they wouldn’t recoup shit. I am so sick of interacting with uninformed retards
>>61050587K
>>61051921>accelerated dedollarizationBad for now, but long overdue. The only reason the US dollar was the world's reserve currency for so long is because we forced the issue with the Bretton Woods scheme.>hey everyone, we notice we got out of WW2 uniquely undamaged by all the fighting, we'll gladly help you folks rebuild and fund you>give you gold? lol, no, we'll give you our money, and you can buy gold from us at $35/oz>don't worry if you build up a surplus of US dollars, you'll be able to convert it to cheap gold sooner or later>oh, we're running low on gold, deal is off>"It's our currency, but it's your problem."A forced system can't last forever.
>>61050630>good jobs, everything's fucking expensive, everyone was broke as fuck. Careful what you wish forYou're describing now. You're describing TODAY.
>>61054660It's not about investing in a payoff, it's investing in power.Remember back in the election when a TV station aired a live video of Trump acting bizarrely, and it turned out it was being edited in real-time by AI? This is the future they are investing in. The power to create any evidence they want on anyone. You say you weren't there, but we have this video of you there. And once they have it polished far enough, it will be all but impossible for people to tell the difference between a real image and a fake one. Some country ticks us off? A full raft of fake evidence of a terror attack that never happened, and at least half the world will be condemning them if not joining us in getting revenge.Full narrative control, that's worth any price. That's why companies and governments are spending trillions they don't have to be the first to get it.
>>61054772>A forced system can't last forever.Can't imagine what you have in mind as an alternative post WW2 when it comes to rebuilding europe.
>>61054910I know you normies like reading about the CIA and MOSSAD, but it will never not be funny how little thought you really give to this.>The power to create any evidence they want on anyone.We don't need AI to do any of that.
>>61050597>wastedI spend probably hours a day interacting with various AI platforms. I don’t know how people don’t use it themselves. I mean I guess they do without even realizing it most of the time whenever thus pull up a google search results page but still. It’s fun to create stuff with it and talk to anime characters, even outside of practical stuff associated with it.
>>61055103cringe
>>61051864Don't forget that other nations already made massive rate cuts and inflation, while US is still maintaining its rates
>>61050587if we start producing enough energy in the US we are going to be fine.
>>61057403Demand for energy will plummet when the economy shuts down. Do you remember the negative oil price in the beginning of COVID?
>>61050587Xi won. So yes it's a good thing.
>>61051768Current projection is this fourth turning lasts until 2033. Im thinking it's a bit sooner that that but we probably have another 5 years of fuckery before next high.
>>61056776>cringe
>>61057528You will need Tw's sooner than you think. American energy (any energy) will be more valuable than gold or BTC.
Parting thought: invest in compute power. There are not enough chips for what is coming.
Why is everyone talking about de-dollarizatiom when dxy is still at 90? Is this the next JEET cope since they are so desperate to come to the USA?
>>61050587Orange man literally can not allow ayshun man year of golden diode, let alone centurion of golden triac.
>>61057886what does he mean by that?
>>61057378for now. eventually jobs report will be undeniably bad and rate cuts are coming backjust cuz the US is like 5% better than europe doesn't mean they aren't both sliding down the shit slide to zero
>>61050587as a programmer, my output is about 3x with LLMs than without it
>>61059897Its a force multiplier, like it or not. Eventually will create more jobs than it destroys. Average user has little awareness of prompt/ context engineering and creating custom GPTs for specific tasks. Nor even agentic use. The future is wide open.
Bros…
>>61050587A lot of companies are undervalued right now. If you look at the markets they are trading below their historical average on terms of key metrics. Its literally a dozen companies that are trading at these insane P/E ratios and its actually overweighting the S&P 500 to them. You could be a big boy investor and actually buy low.
>>61060910>A lot of companies are undervalued right nowhahahaha
>>61054290Making a bigger chat bot?
>>61060868so much for thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85odClwSEiI
>>61057403i'm sure hernandez and shaniqua will take care of energy production
>>61060910>A lot of companies are undervalued right nowwhat kind of copium are you inhaling? can i have some?
>>61050931BRICS fud bots don't like to post chart
>>61054475Name one company making money this way. There is no money in this.>>61055103I’ve started outsourcing almost all of my thinking to chatGPT. I regularly prompt it to basically simulate a variety of outcomes, pull up any useful context, and flag possible risks. Anyone not doing this is getting left behind massively. Imagine not literally having all the world’s knowledge auto-injected into every decision-making process you have to deal with. It also makes it so much easier to handle other people because it takes emotion out of the equation. You’re just giving back the best possible solutions. The only problem now is that basically everything takes place in a linear conversation. You have to type everything out and previous conversations get lost. The real gain is going to be when LLMs are just continually working in the background, spitting out context and scenarios unprompted in all kinds of situations. Most people won’t be able to handle it because they still think their brains are worth something. Me, i’m retardmaxxing so the idea that I need to do even less thinking is honestly awesome. Also, self-driving cars.
>>61050597>We're in a sick clownconomy right now that looks good for stocks but is hurting the common man in most respects.It's going to stay that way
>>61050587As long as my bonds do not fail I’m comfy
>>61050673>at least France tries.. and fail.
>>61062036why would that ever happen, if they dont make money with it?
>>61050931Here's the non cherrypicked reality. I wonder what the cause of the more recent uptick is.
>>61050587Yes
there is a reason gold price is going up
>>61050931lmao zoom the fuck out bitch nigger
>>61050587>welol
>>61050587germans dont get to comment on anything America related especially after ww2
>>61066942jew detected
its a 50-50either you're fucked or you arent
>>61050587ok niggers. When do i sell then
>>61050597>all of that capital/revenue that was being wasted on AI will get rerouted back to real, good, useful things.lol. lmao even
>>61055049AI's real power is not in creating evidence, it's to further muddy the waters about the truth and ultimately destroy it. Any document, photograph, or recording can be called "AI" and instantly lose credibility in a way that calling stuff a "conspiracy theory" never could. Then you muddy it further and gaslight everyone by releasing an innumerable amount of AI-generated wrong versions of whatever it is you want to suppress. Nothing is real, nothing is verifiable, and that means you can do whatever you fucking want.
