uh so i havent been keeping up on shit and just noticed today while scanning the top coins on coinmarketcap that zcash was over $200 how did this happen and why? what was the news i missed? should i be getting more? i only had like 3 coins left that ive held for like 8 years because everyone told me it was a dead project and monero is better. are people using this shit now? did they protocol update to only privacy mode transactions or something?
>>61074738/biz/ misses everything, it wasn't discussed here
>>6107473821 is the make it stack. too bad biz is filled with pedos who are obsessed with xmr.
>>61074738it's got a lot of good dev going ontransitioning towards proof of stake and quantum resistance faster than other chains
>>61074758it's this lmao. People would rather talk about chainlink or av*ator bags than maybe unheem themselves.
>>61074811>>61074772>>61074758so should i be accumulating more or should i just sell what i have at the top and consider myself lucky? does this $200 range have any holding support or is it gonna collapse soon? a 10x is pretty awesome in this bear market we havent seen any trustworthy project do that in a couple years im pissed nobody was sharing the alpha here
>>61074885I have no idea
>>61074885I’ve been folllowing zec for years and would be grateful to dump at these prices. privacy coins are going nowhere and transition to PoS is going to kill the chain. it’s the best tech in crypto but the team is retarded and gay
for years as in when it was first launched. I’m using this run up as a chance to sell my miners
>>61074885only at 2x but gonna ride it for a while, trading volume is solid
I don't know what other "coins" will do well. I'm thinking there are some PoW ones under the radar that haven't seen much development, eventually awareness will catch on, still looking around though. SCASH looked most interesting so I bought a bunch a while back.
>>61074738Naval Ravikant shilled it on twitter and he's like a canary for smart money imo I love that man, and grayscale launched a zcash etf. The mob psychology and hype is easier to see in the crypto twitter area specifically around the monero people. Privacy season is here.
>>61074885idk about buying thats up to you I think it's marketcap should be like cardanos so I'm gonna hold til then
>>61075015wtf theres an ETF for it now???????? why zcash of all the fucking top coins? why not litecoin???
kikes unironically
>>61075225Did a long-ass forensic dive with AI and the fingerprints are unmistakable. ZEC has a long record of reflexive, time-engineered market cycles, and the current move follows the same structural choreography almost to the letter.Historical pattern: every major ZEC rally (2017, 2020, 2021) started with a legitimate technical milestone — Sapling, Halo, Unified Addresses — but quickly evolved into a reflexive leverage-and-media cascade. In each cycle, whales distributed into retail momentum as derivatives open interest spiked and social volume went vertical, followed by predictable mean reversion once the narrative energy decayed.The 2025 pattern fits perfectly:- Sept 16: ECC’s Zashi CrossPay launch provides genuine fundamentals — a credible spark.- Oct 1: Naval’s “insurance against Bitcoin” tweet injects memetic virality — mindshare ignition.- Oct 1–8: Grayscale access headlines add institutional legitimacy — narrative validation.- Oct 8–9: Influencer and media amplification sustain the loop — lifespan extension.Each phase landed precisely as the previous one’s attention half-life waned — a rolling resonance curve designed to maintain reflexivity. CoinGlass confirmed open interest surged +200 % in ten days and funding flipped positive for the first time in months — classic hallmarks of engineered momentum.On-chain forensics reinforce the thesis: Arkham and CMF data show exchange inflows spiking while whale balances declined, a near-perfect replay of prior ZEC distribution events.Social analytics (Messari, LunarCrush) record a >1000 % jump in social dominance after price acceleration, proving sentiment was reactive — price leading narrative, not fundamentals leading price.
>>61075242And the precedent is documented: during both the Halo 1.0 (2020) and ECC rebrand (2021) waves, identical timing patterns appeared — synchronized blog posts, interviews, and “privacy comeback” rhetoric exactly when ZEC hit technical resistance.This is temporal narrative engineering — a deliberate sequencing of authentic news, influencer activation, and derivative leverage to sustain reflexivity across multiple half-lives of attention.So yes, the catalysts were real, but the symmetry of timing and behavioral telemetry reveal a constructed feedback loop, not spontaneous price discovery. Unless the coming data show sustained expansion in shielded-pool velocity, Zashi active addresses, and long-term accumulation, this remains another ZEC-classic reflexive echo bubble — synthetic momentum elegantly disguised as fundamental resurgence.I recommend doing your own “deep research” with ChatGPT. It scales with the demand and sophistication of your prompt.Use modifiers like:“beyond PhD level”“forensic, multidimensional, reflexivity-aware analysis”“temporal market-structure dissection”“rigorous, high-resolution data forensics”“institutional-grade narrative deconstruction.”Feed it depth — and it will return depth.
>>61074885It's strong as fuck right now. My slurp order at 156 never hit when it was 170 because it ate through historical resistances like it was nothing.
>>61075242>>61075244interesting. what did your chatgpt session say for expected top? is this bubble just starting or are we topped out? i see reditors saying they expect a price per coin value of $50,000 in a year whih seems absurd to me but what do i know
>>61074758You know why? Because of the two groups who flood this board with their stupid shit.
>>61075574are you gonna bother getting in or are you gonna sit it out now that you missed your preferred entry? i have like 3 coins im debating dumping 2 and keeping 1 just in case it keeps going. im poor btw so selling it all for $600 is very tempting and would help out a lot. maybe ill do that and rotate into xrp or something before the big pump there
(((Zcash)))
>>61074920>PoS is going to kill the chain.exactly was i was thinking. just look BTCETC ratio since the merge.
>>61074772This place is filled with pedos, it’s why it’s such a miserable shit hole.
>>61074738What's so great about this project? Many other chains can offer privacy. Basically every smartcontract chain could develop something for privacy. I don't get it.
>>61076065Obviously this looks toppy, but also could have 1-2x in it but risk/reward ratio now is much worse than when it was $30-40. It already went up some weeks and afaik historically Friday/Saturday tend to be the strongest retail days, so it might still orgasm a bit but afterwards post-nut clarity will hit.Never chase pumps unless you absolutely know what you're doing and you don't sound like you do.
>>61076644but there's literally so much upside potential. new btc update is probably going to result in the chain being spammed with csam leading to possible monster upsides for zcash and litecoin
>>61074738Israeli pump and dump. They have a backdoor on the code.
>>61074738Monero isn't better, its actually trash. Scaling multiple orders of magnitude worse than BTC makes it garbage.Best privacy coin and coin in general is Grin but everybody forgot that one.
>>61074811you are retarded if you think those are the reasons
Would ZEC and TAO be related in any way?
>>61074920transition to PoS will kill miner dumps. top 20 is full of dead chains with high mcaps exactly because miners are not dumping out of their ass
>>61076685>backdoorit's open source. please point where in the code the Jewish backdoor is.https://github.com/zcash/librustzcash
>>61076647>new btc update is probably going to result in the chain being spammed with csamLiterally no one cares about this except concern trolls, I personally want it to happen because it will likely lead to rational exceptions to those laws such that this concern trolling over CP can finally fucking end and people can start using P2P networks again without worrying about the FBI knocking on their door.>>61078656>just audit 96000 lines of Rust goy
>>61079613there is a backdoor because there just must be OKAY????
>>61079645don't mind him, he just has Jew Derangement Syndrome
>>61079645Have you audited all 96000 lines of code in that Github, anon?
>>61079669the burden is on you. you are shouting BACKDOOR BACKDOOR with no evidence.
>>61079682How do you know that there isn't a backdoor if you haven't read the code, anon?
>>61079705kek. I take it you have audited Ethereum and Solana. retard.
>>61079705The fucking founder talked about putting in back doors for law enforcement you piece of shit lying faggot
>>61078503long term all PoS chains are going to zero
>>61080340no, he didn't, see Green's comment here:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15369670
>>61080677>it’s okay to talk about backdoors if I make some desperate attempt to walk it back later on
>>61078656the initial key used to seed the zero knowlege proof. mossad has it.
>>61074758Exactly. I did a 5x while /biz was asleep. Don't you get it? Don't you get it, retard? This board is over
/biz was killed. Assassinated.
>>61076561Zcash pioneered the use of zero knowledge proofs in this space, and it was built that way from inception, not bolted on as an afterthought. Every coin is minted directly into the shielded pool, so there's no 'taint' like when you run BTC through a coinshuffle - nothing to blacklist, since every coin is equally dirty thus fungible.they have the most mature and robust zkp code. the coin essentially functions like a DEX between XMR like coin (shielded addresses) and a BTC like coin (transparent addresses), similar to atomic swapping between XMR and BTC, but staying within one currency.unfortunately the team is retarded and repeatedly shot itself in the foot with the mining tax, stupid backdoor type comments, tranny devs and ultimately the switch to PoS.
>>61080693Anywhere I can read more about this?
>>61080691Do you really think someone developing a privacy crypto would publicly state they're going to backdoor it? that would undermine all the work their doing, publicly. I agree it was a retarded statement to make, even if his clarified intent was honest. But I find his clarified reasoning more believable than a guy just shooting himself in the foot intentionally.
>>61080746Optional privacy leads to heuristic chainalysis which will get ever more intense and accurate with AI. There is LITERALLY no point to an optionally private crypto except to attract speculation by touting “institutional acceptance” which is basically a privacy oxymoron.
>>61080749what the key would decrypt was deprecated anyway during the migration to Sapling. They required a trusted setup until figuring out how to do trustless. it's a crustless zkp system now
>>61080770It was back in 2017 when the visibility on the market was much more limited and Twitter marketing tactics were less developed. I think he was speaking honestly, and backtracked out of necessity.
>>61080771Yes, you cannot and should not use shielded addresses as a passthrough. This is functionally identically to doing XMR-->BTC-->XMR via atomic swaps (it'd be very easy to identify who the owner was, but this doesn't mean XMR is bad). what is not presently vulnerable is doing shielded to shielded transactions, or shielded to transparent if done responsibly and not as a passthrough.
>>61074758>>61074884>>61080713YOU NIGGERS ALWAYS SAY THIS AND ARE SUDDENLY SILENT WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE YOU ACTUALLY FIND INFORMATION AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PEEPEEPOOPOOOO FUICK YOUUUUUUUU
>>61080791Well you're entitled to your own opinion, I have no dog in this race except using this pump as a chance to dump my miners. But I have a hard time wrapping my head around why someone developing an open source privacy crypto project publicly announce they'd do something so antithetical to its core purpose. I lean toward that being a verbal misstep unless there's more evidence that comes forward, but it's been almost ten years now and there's nothing.
>>61080829I don’t view zcash as a “privacy crypto project” so there’s nothing antithetical about what he said. Just slipped up by being too honest for a minute.
>>61080824Why would the info matter when Zcash is going to top out around 300 bucks anyway? You missed the pump little bro, it's okay. Go back to talking about link or whatever. 1k eoy, right?
>>61080846It's literally going to replace Bitcoin as the #1 coin
>>61080824Do you think we will actually provide access to real life /biztard cattle?Surely you jest.You exist to be slaughtered. Meat for the meatgrinder
>>61080844>I don’t view zcash as a “privacy crypto project” that's what it's been since inception though? in both it's marketing and code. you're being dishonest if you're going to tell me you think it's not at least marketed as a privacy coin.
>>61080859Oh of course it’s marketed that way. Also, Cardano is marketed as something other than a piece of shit.
>>61080863If you agree that Zcash is at least marketed as a privacy coin, then what Green said becomes antithetical to the project's core values. That said, you honestly dont' believe there's any privacy code or intent in the project? They literally developed the ZKP system used by 'all of crypto' today practically, or at. least laid the ground work liek in the case of zk starks. I don't know how you can say a ZKP project is not a privacy project
>>61080693setup ceremonies don't let you break privacy. you are confusing inflation and privacy.
>>61080948oh setup ceremonies dont let you break privacy? thats an interestingly talmudic way of straight up lying
>>61075001RLC is vastly undervalued. Used to be shilled here alongside LINK and it’s still solid.
>>61080863if you don't think it's private, then try and trace Z->Z transactions. you can't, and it has far better privacy than monero in this regard.
>>61080931>antithetical to the project's core valuesA project’s core values are not always synonymous with its marketing. The amount of insider special interests, dev taxes, foundations, and design decisions (including PoS which is unsurprising to me) lead me to believe that privacy was NOT the core value of zcash despite its marketing. The core value was to return value to its early investors.I can say this confidently as a Monero supporter because I see firsthand the difference between a privacy-enforced project and a privacy-optional one. A privacy-enforced crypto creates a completely parallel economy that operates in its own world and avoids all enforcement or engagement with existing structures, which will undoubtedly become more onerous in the near future with CBDCs, digital IDs and similarly dystopian technological surveillance.A privacy-optional crypto bends and stretches itself to remain compliant with the ever increasing demands of surveillance states, purely out of the financial interest of having liquidity access to “institutions”. This should tell you what you want to know about its core values.
>>61081130>it has far better privacy than monero in this regard.I know you’re regurgitating the talking point, but it is wrong. And after FCMP it will be entirely moot. This is why the pump is happening now, by the way. It’s the very last opportunity zcash people can even credibly claim this.
>>61081035yeah because setup is only there for succinctness not zero-knowledge.
