Libertarian phase fags were always dumb only those who had the commie phase were right

>>61088259
>phase
I believe what I believe, it wasn't really a phase for me. It seems like a lot of teenagers go through these Internet ideological phases but I've just had more or less the same inclinations since I was a kid. Luckily I did too because it's what got me into /biz/.

>>61088269
If bitcoin wins itd be mccommunism

>>61088304
I don't know what this means

So you can see on Etherscan your BTC being used hmmm

>>61088329
You know party leader whales in charge of mcgulags unless theres robots or something

>>61088343
>So you can see on Etherscan your BTC being used hmmm
Ethereum

>>61088250
>family screwing you out of that much money after you struggled with whatever else was going on
if someone did that to me i'd take them out... to dinner
regardless of who they were
nothing left to lose from the sound of it anyway

>>61088393
>nothing left to lose from the sound of it anyway
I still have my life, I wouldn't do anything crazy like you're implying, I'd rather seek justice and try to get my money back

>>61088426
>getting justice
>get your money back
neither of these things are going to happen
you'll see things differently when you actually realize that

>>61088493
>neither of these things are going to happen
Why not? Outright theft of a large sum of money is exactly the kind of thing law enforcement is supposed to handle.
>you'll see things differently when you actually realize that
Even if that's true, I'd only be losing by doing something stupid like what you're suggesting

>>61088528
>Why not? Outright theft of a large sum of money is exactly the kind of thing law enforcement is supposed to handle.
Anon, I...

>>61088547
You can disagree or correct me, but at least try to provide some meaningful insight.

>>61088528
>>61088556
this must be bait

how could you possibly prove anything? at best you could prove they are in possession of bitcoin but how they got it isnt traceable

>>61088568
>how could you possibly prove anything? at best you could prove they are in possession of bitcoin but how they got it isnt traceable
How would it not be traceable? You can pull it right up on Etherscan and like I said I recorded him admitting to it. Plus he cashed some out which law enforcement can obviously see. Read the thread.

>>61088250
>I was a libertarian
Suffering deserved

>>61088250
>The police basically laughed in my face and told me they didn't care or want to do the paperwork and they strongly implied that if I keep bothering them, they'll find something more to charge me with.
what country is this? Russia?

>>61088556
>You can disagree or correct me, but at least try to provide some meaningful insight.
>this must be bait
Owari da...

>>61088643
>what country is this? Russia?
USA, obviously. (This is an American imageboard.)

Are you been diagnosed with autism

>>61088250
>Over 20 BTC
>Still try to mooch off your relatives
When did this happen, and why did you put yourself into this position in the first place? Maybe I'm reading your story wrong, but it seems to me like you were greedy and selfish, and you got fleeced by someone more so.

>>61088656
escalate the case to their superiors, don't take no for an answer, sue them if they don't act on evidence

>>61088620
>You can pull it right up on Etherscan
so you just go to the cops and point to the drained wallet and say "that was mine and as you can see he stole it"?

do you see an issue here?

>>61088669
His parents died, he needed help, was honest about his financial situation by disclosing all of his holdings and thought he could trust his own brother.

OP is not at fault here unless he left some shit out

>>61088679
>do you see an issue here?
No, can you elaborate on what you think the issue is? It sounds like you don't understand how crypto works.

Unironically kill him

>>61088689
This
>>61088673
>escalate the case to their superiors, don't take no for an answer, sue them if they don't act on evidence
I've gotten a lot of "my lieutenant (or whatever they are called) is choosing not to take your report". "Sue them" seems like a joke to me now after dealing with lawyers for so long. Finding a lawyer is not easy.

>>61088694
basically that the cops wont help you with this like they would if you were mugged for $50 on the street
you need money to hire lawyers and you got all of it stolen

>>61088714
I am feeling like this is a larp

>>61088714
>Finding a lawyer is not easy.
You know how a lot of people who lost their Bitcoin through some other means offer bounties to people who help them recover it? You could try that to go down that route. Maybe some legal eagles will consider taking an interest in your case if they stand to gain 4-5 BTC as a recovery fee.

Or maybe there are other firms like PIs who'd consider filing all the police reports, etc on your behalf if they stand to gain the 20% recovery fee.

>>61088738
>I am feeling like this is a larp
I'm feeling like you've never dealt with police in your life. I hadn't until this, but trust me when I say that it isn't fun.
>>61088732
>basically that the cops wont help you with this like they would if you were mugged for $50 on the street
They basically just took it from my house while I was unable to go there. I understand that it's not a literal mugging on the street, but unfortunately the local police are the people who are legally supposed to handle these situations.
>you need money to hire lawyers and you got all of it stolen
This is not insightful

>>61088749
I had similar thoughts, but I don't know where to find someone who won't just take the money and run, and very few people in real life actually want to pursue something on a contingency basis like what you're describing.

>>61088758
>This is not insightful
i mean you asked me what i thought the problem was
i get the feeling if you went down the bounty hunter route that other anons are suggesting youd just get more of your shit stolen

>>61088732
>>61088679
Also, I have to reiterate, I recorded him saying something literally like "watch this bro I am draining your wallet, yeah that's my wallet now" (paraphrasing)

>>61088689
>was honest about his financial situation
His financial situation was that he didn't need to mooch off of anyone.
>disclosing all of his holdings
This is a terrible trade-off that he didn't need to make if he just sold what he needed.
>OP is not at fault here
He's not legally at fault. Neither is a 90lb white guy strolling through the ghetto with chains around his neck and getting robbed. Consider the decision-making that led to this place, and what that means for the future prospect of him keeping this money should he get it back.

>>61088778
>i get the feeling if you went down the bounty hunter route that other anons are suggesting youd just get more of your shit stolen
Yes, I think that's the most likely outcome. I don't know who I trust less now--lawyers or police.

>>61088790
>This is a terrible trade-off that he didn't need to make if he just sold what he needed.
I didn't need money from my brother, I needed support in a difficult time. He saw that, made a plan, and stole my crypto. It's very simple. I don't know why you're calling me a mooch--some people just come here to troll and I understand that, but what you're saying makes no sense unless you think ever needing any sort of help or support from anyone is mooching.

>>61088770
It's probably hard, but it's the only viable option I can think of.

Otherwise you can go with the nuclear option and contact the tax authorities in your country. If your brother sold the Bitcoin without proper documentation of how he acquired them, that's tax fraud right there

>>61088817
>Otherwise you can go with the nuclear option and contact the tax authorities in your country
The IRS? Do they even do asset recovery like this?

>>61088829
I don't think you would be getting anything back, but you would fuck your brother over like he fucked you. So if recovering it is impossible, that would be the nuclear option

>>61088840
Well, I will consider it, but I'm not out for blood here, I just want to take the appropriate steps to fix this situation. It's really surreal to experience firsthand authorities who won't do anything to remedy a situation like this

>>61088804
Like I said, I may be reading your story wrong. But I don't know how you define "help and support", and I cannot understand how that help and support requires you to give him access to your self-sequestered bitcoin unless it was financial in nature. Self custody implies a certain level of responsibility.
Getting robbed sucks. Getting robbed by blood sucks even more. But your story makes as much sense to me as asking for legal advice online. You're making bad decisions, you're continuing to make bad decisions. I will respectfully bow out here, I'm not here to make you feel worse. I'm just astonished.

>>61088938
>But your story makes as much sense to me as asking for legal advice online.
As opposed to what, cold calling all ten lawyers in my area and hoping I find the one who isn't a dirtbag and is competent? Asking family for advice?
>you're continuing to make bad decisions
In what way? What should I do differently? Do you have any actual suggestions?

Just read OP post and think its well deserved.

>>61089003
>Just read OP post and think its well deserved.
On what basis?

>>61088868
Welcome to reality, in which everything is completely different from Hollywood and MSM propaganda.

Lawyers are mostly scammers who can't their their own shoes, doctors are incompetent and won't ever actually treat you, psychologists aren't considerate but pseudoscientific assholes, etc.

I do feel for you though. I had a lot of experience with this in Europe (Germany). I had to deal with a tax lawyer whose incompetence would have landed me in prison without my intervention and my own expert knowledge, while he demanded outrageous fantasy salaries. And I was de-facto blind on one eye, until I found out about scleral lenses on my accord15 years later, which multiple ophthalmologists never told me about, and I then had to pay for myself. And the youth workers were mentally ill feminists. And so on.

Supposed "rights" in the west exist only on TV. Or for those people who the system considers in some sense "Aryan". It's pretty interesting to actually experience this reality. And then be bombarded my MSM propaganda about how righteous the west allegedy is.

I do wish you the best though.

>>61089083
*Lawyers are mostly scammers who can't tie their own shoes

DEATH. Kill them and send them to God early. See what he thinks of bloodline betrayal and life thievery.

>>61089083
>Supposed "rights" in the west exist only on TV. Or for those people who the system considers in some sense "Aryan".
White people? I don't think that makes much difference at all.
>Welcome to reality, in which everything is completely different from Hollywood and MSM propaganda.
>Lawyers are mostly scammers who can't their their own shoes, doctors are incompetent and won't ever actually treat you, psychologists aren't considerate but pseudoscientific assholes, etc.
Maybe this is true, I don't know. Are you an immigrant to Germany?

>>61089104
>Just fuck your life up permanently
No, I'm trying to get my money back, and barring that I will just try to start over.

>>61089083
this. also even if the police prosecute your brother and his wife for theft there is very little chance you'll ever see the money again. they already spent it all or sequestered it, the most that the court will do i treat it as a domestic dispute where they'll order the brother to pay some paltry sum in damages.

there is no such thing as "lawyers" who will get your money back. so called "justice" is all based on how you look and how important you are or if you're one of the state's client groups: women, homos, trannys with extra points if you're black.

Seems like you need a proper lawyer. You don´t even need to pay a young hotshot lawyer a lot, they´ll just take proceeds from any of the recovered assets. May seem brutal to give 30% away but you don´t have shit right now.

>>61089156
>some paltry sum in damages.
Why wouldn't they order the full sum? It's easily quantifiable, the ledger is right there. That's the whole basis of crypto.
>so called "justice" is all based on how you look
What do you mean by this?

>>61089170
That would be fine, but where do I even find someone like that? I don't know where people get this idea that there are lawyers just itching to get a payday on a contingency basis, because I can't find one. There are a small number of local lawyers and they are mostly shady and unhelpful.

>>61089175
you've been watching too many movies. you cant get blood out of a stone.

>what do you mean by this
if you give the female magistrate the ick or the creeps by looking like a chud

>>61089260
>you've been watching too many movies. you cant get blood out of a stone.
Can you be specific or not? Posting idioms isn't insightful.
>if you give the female magistrate the ick or the creeps by looking like a chud
You sound like you spend too much time on TikTok

>>61088250
You have the evidence, and no official will help you.
Record them refusing to help you (be nice about it so you don't get charged).
Put all of it on the internet and draw as much attention to it as possible.
Make sure you upload ALL of it so they can't shut you up once episode one comes out.

>>61089312
Seems like a plan. Contact some youtube lawyers who are on a war path of justice. Send them the video. There are plenty of youtubers out there who deal with corrupt cops

>>61088259
>>61088269
It turns out Libertarians were fucking RIGHT in the end.
Central banking and government intervention are scams and destroying the world.
Outta incredible the group who's been criticizing the real problem for the longest time gets the most hate.
Holy shit

>>61088635
Libertarians are right about everything
Cope and seethe

>>61089486
>Outta
*it's

>>61089505
>>61089495
>>61089486
I don't see why it would be controversial, especially today. I just like the idea of small government and being left alone for the most part.

>>61089737
Because the market is not wise, because once you have enough money you become a black hole, because otherwise society is sentenced to another 100 years of software snd invisible treatments and sugar highs, etc… and is no longer sustainable with ai and robots either way.
Its like saying i want to be amish.

>>61088250
>When he found out that I still had crypto from the early days
Thank you for playing! Use full disk encryption next time and never reveal your holdings. A landlord once fraudulently called the cops on me just to have 12 hours to search the house while I was being processed. He also admitted to break and entry on other occasions. Always encrypt your shit.
Find a lawyer if you're not baiting. If you have a recording and the original key, this is doable. Not easy because you're going against the cops. but doable. Otherwise, your remaining options are literal kidnapping and torture until they give you the keys back. If this isn't feasible then remember this: genitals are connected to the very end of the spine, and so severing the spinal cord in any point will render a person unable to get off for the rest of their worthless life, not to mention the permanent phantom pain they'll be dealing with.

And just like another anon said, you can get the IRS involved. In the US, you actually owe tax for crypto at the point of obtaining it, not at the point of sale.

>>61088975
>As opposed to what, cold calling all ten lawyers in my area and hoping I find the one who isn't a dirtbag and is competent?
Call all 10000 lawyers in your state if this is 20 BTC we're talking about.
Look for crypto specific lawyers on twitter.

Look man. If you were dumb enough to trust ANYONE with your money, the last thing you should be doing is going on internet and crying about it. Remember the proverb?

DONT GAMBLE WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE?

Yeah you did that. What else is there to say just move on. It’s not like you have to love your brother now. It could be worse. You could be stuck preforming fellatio on him once a day.

>>61088250
So you should have sold some bitcoin then you fucking moron, if it was during covid you wouldn't have needed to be a fucking parasite, why shouldn't your brother have robbed a mooching fucking parasite too greedy to help himself? Fuck off

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>>61088250
You just have to kill your brother and his gf in situations like this. Or you just accept you have been robbed and seek your fortune elsewhere.

Anon... Going on here to get some genuine advice. I'm not sure if this is the right place because people on her are more or less mentally ill or have mental health issues. It's mostly people who've been traumatized at an early age and then because displacement (defense mechanism) is a thing they'll start telling you you're a fucking idiot because the people telling you that have been probably told that by their own parents and are therefore just echoing that sentiment and displacing all of their hurt onto you. Just do what I said here >>61089481. Get some youtube lawyers involved. They'll probably happily do it for free because they literally live of off publicity and taking down some corrupt cops is good publicity because everyone is sick and fucking tired of corrupt tyranny authorities. We need to clean out corruption from society... It's destroying society from the inside out. That shit needs to get rooted out.

>>61090968
>So you should have sold some bitcoin then you fucking moron,
>mooching
I don't understand this idea that asking a family member for support is mooching, especially if it's not financial support

>>61090477
>A landlord once fraudulently called the cops on me just to have 12 hours to search the house while I was being processed. He also admitted to break and entry on other occasions. Always encrypt your shit.
That is pretty messed up... would you mind sharing the story? Maybe it's relevant to my situation.

>>61088250
>left 2m on an unencrypted hard drive in someone else's house
retard.

>>61091479
Can people here even read?
>from my own house
Just wild speculation all around when the info is right there

>>61091668
>ended up being charged with trespassing after I was removed from my own house
so it's not your house anymore. got it.

>>61091479
>>61091717
>I go online to kick people when they're down to feel better about myself
You wouldn't post this if you were a happy, well adjusted person. You're not bothering me, by the way--I've been here since 2003

>>61088250
>First time by myself
>20 BTC
Not buying it. If you were in this situation then selling a few BTC could easily have you set for a while you got your life in order.

>>61091906
It takes a certain mentality to hodl when it has gone +100% for the 50th time. I don't think many people can really understand that.
>set for a while you got your life in order
When, though? See above. And why would I bait with this? I don't really feel compelled to prove you wrong, but consider what I've said.

True hardship can also be a unique situation for a person.

>>61088250
I think you didn't understand the fundamental issue: being sperg make you a prey in the eyes of scammers which are usually psychopaths. Also people prioritize their partner to their family more often than not.

Sorry that money is gone, you and I know that crypto being outside the law is exactly what gave it some attractiveness in the first place, high risk high reward.

My personal advice is use a lot acid until you trip out of spergness (around - 20% less is good enough)

>>61092043
Real ones don't lose it, it's not a social media personality

>>61092043
>I think you didn't understand the fundamental issue: being sperg make you a prey
Also, I do understand this now, and it only cost me everything and a brother

>>61092058
>Real ones don't lose it, it's not a social media personality
Is worth a shot, for some it has worked

>>61092305
I'll keep that in mind

ive got 1000 mined litecoin on a sony laptop in my basement. i have no idea what the passcodes are or whatever. i dont really care either.

op is a fucking retard
this is genuine advice. please understand. you're a dumbass, a fool, an idiot, a reprobate moron. it is not possible to help you until you understand the depths of your own stupidity