long term holding is pointless if you're buying stocks
>>61102056I think it's only worth it if you're getting dividends anon
>>61102056Only if you're buying and holding bad companies like Intel though. Almost any halfway decent big tech company would have made multi millionaires had you bought them 20 years ago.
Just sell when pe ratio skyrockets
>>61102056>dividendsand no this doesn't mean you should buy a stock just for it's dividends.
>>61102056>but the jew said if I miss the 5 best trading days in 35 years I'll lose $200k!Literal argument I heard from a co-worker who plans to buy and hodl index funds, I didn't bother replying.
>>61102089How is it a bad company? It's literally in every computer which means every corner of the planet even in north Korea. Compare it to Tesla which does jackshit, not even the best ev or best-selling one, but went up 100x. Genuinely how does this make sense
>>61102056>He buys stocks without analyzing company fundamentals.You just sound like an Intel baggie.
>>61102056Nah I'll just keep hodling intel
>>61102153OP's pic supports your coworker's investment thesis you fucking retard
>>61102153it's literally true for index funds, not individual stocks
>>61102177>analyze intel fundamentals>vastly oversold semiconductor giant>still gigantic market share>still decent product>global demand basically unsatiable>extremely favourable political climate>strategic importance to the world's premier superpowerit sat at a large discount for months solely because people are as dumb as you. Don't even mention the words "General Motors" because I will fucking rape you
>>61102056What this graph says is that it does 2x every 2 years, and sometimes 30% every 3 months. Too boomery for me to careStill, I wouldn't buy Kiketel because it's a doomed company. I'd go with AMD, I have a feeling they're at a prime position to launch a revolutionary GPU
>>61102202>he doesn't know how to analyze fundamentalsMakes sense why you're holding Intel.
>>61102317reading those aggregated numbers will not tell you why intel is a shit company to buy
>>61102329Intel not being profitable and losing money is the biggest reason why they are a bad company.
>>61102180Which part of the pic is that? The part where it does more than 3x and then falls back down wiping out all gains for 25+ years and is still just equal to it's inflation adjusted value pre-crash?
>>61102167As someone that has friends that worked for intel (they all quit), it’s just like your typical bloated American company like Boeing or GM. If you or a loved one is an insider, count the levels of management there is from a tech to the CEO. Now find friends/family at a competitor, and the problem is obvious. If you don’t know you don’t know, but there’s a real, fundamental difference in operations between a company like GM vs Tesla that makes GM a shitty investment bc it’s guaranteed to fail without gov subsidies. Why would you invest a penny in a company like that?>t. engineering consultant
Mostly true. I thought about buying NVDA when everyone was scrambling for gpus to mine crypto, but didn't, and ultimately missed out. I would have sold by now though and either pivoted, or put money into an ETF. If you want to sit on it super long term, it's so rare to find the next amazon or nvidia, so you might as well invest in a sector
The next amazon or nvda will be a fusion stock (quantum is a meme)
>>61102543I bet a fusion electric company will be private. They don’t need the small fish.
>>61102543quantum computing isn't a meme but those shitty companies are frauds (IONQ, RGTI, QBTS, QUBT)
>>61102167This is probably impossible for a cryptocel to understand, but publicly traded companies have all their business data out in the open. You have access to every companies' financials, so you can clearly see Intel's revenues and margins have been shrinking for years. You can also see that they have 50 billion dollars of debt, which was almost half their market cap before the recent pump. Just check the financials tab of tradingviewMeanwhile TSLA has been growing their revenue and margins precipitously until 2024, which was also when the stock stopped being worth having
>>61102056Incel got raped by amd and nvidia, but they deserved it. You know your compay is a buncch of dick heads when Bill Gates fucking hates it
>>61102695As a cryptokiddie, thanks for the tip. Speaking of Tesla I noticed their revenue and margin have bounced back a bit this year, would you say it is worth jumping in? It is quite high but if anyone is closest to having a robot on the US market it would probably be the company that has them already. Price seems kind of high though...
>>61102626There will always be an AMD to any NVDA anywayBesides the actual fusion plays will always be adjacent to the actual fusion companies>>61102636If Quantum can go exponential with nothing but lies then so can fusion
The amount of luke warm takes in this thread is making me even harder for intel.
Honestly pretty bullish Intel based off this thread
>>61102202Nigger Intel is raped from start to finish, they're been rotting internally for 9 years now and it has only been increasing ever since 5 years ago. They have a massive market share because they have had it for decades, the changes lag a lot. AMD has been raping intel in every imaginable aspect of the CPU department for about 3 years.
>>61102056>bought 2007>sold 2021Thats 4x
>>61102709Intel's issue was complacency in the wake of innovation and now they are paying the price. There is no way in they let the meme that was AMD in the 2010s catch up to them.But Intel is unironically too big too fail and the US needs the company to stay alive whether they are useful or not. It's a thing of pride for the country which is why Trump is making and will continue to make tax payers spend money to save it.
>>61102930>>61102902Literally six months from now when panther lake is released, if it turns out it's better than amds offering, the vidjya gamers of the world will do a 360 overnight and then not shut up about how they knew intel was the best all along and how AMD is shit and why would anyone buy something from anywhere other than intel. It's all swings and round abouts.Fact is, intel has just finished a new facility and is already building two more, whilst nvidjya and amd own precisely, zero.When both the democrats and republicans are simultaneously saying>You need to build this techno crud in America using American companies nowThere may be a clue there about how this might play out.
>>61102992that's a big if, and there's little reason to believe it besides "intel must get it right and be better or else", of whichAMD and nvidia don't need 1st party fabs to make their stuff, they've been fabless for longer than I can count, and TSMC's nodes were about even with intel before intel fumbled out of the race hard. Intel hasn't have a single competitive node usable in scale since 10nm++++++++And even when they tried jacking up the frequency to make up for it, customers got fucked by the large-scale silicon degradation into getting defective dies. You really think Intel can catch up for the next generation? I have been seeing them for 15 years, and I can tell you they can't>There may be a clue there about how this might play out.They don't know jack shit about technology
>>61102167Tesla is a shit company as well but Intel isn't fueled by the hopes of cultists, its fueled by people who buy chips by volume of shipping containers. If those people aren't getting the right performance per watt or there's slight issues with the life span of the chip, they consider your company trash.
>>61103032>They don't know jack shit about technologyOne thing that's interesting and could cause part of the 360 is their ribbon fet and power via technology is legitimately pretty fancy stuff.From what I've seen of panther lake comments so far, they seem to taking a >Try to fix the wheel before reinventing too many new ones approachAs in the new CPUs with onboard GPU chipsets appear to be the previous release but in kind of 2.0 form.The ribbon fet and power / signal plane stuff is genuinely interdasting though.
But I'm up 80%
>>61102056Absolutely retarded take, anon. Or areyou the plebbit bro who ‘invested’ his $700k inheritance to basically lose 80% or whateverthefuck it was?
>>61102056imagine buying a stock you want to long once in 20 yearsalso when the ai bubble pops in 5 years everyone will be talking about intel like it's nvda
>>61105134That guy is actually up like 10% assuming he hasn't folded.
>>61102056Now do the Domino's pizza stock
I think the moral of the story is that when something makes huge gains you need to sell some and reinvest elsewhere. If you just sit and stare at a 3-5x as if that wasn't the culmination of the action, you are making a bad choice.
>>61102075>OMGGGGG I GOT PAID $0.02 / YEAR FOR HOLDING 500 SHARES OF MSFT!!!Dividends don't even beat inflation. Total scam
>500bongs invested every month>90 thousand bongs over 15 years>come out with 150 thousand bongs compounded interest, assuming 7% interest avg across a diverse portfoliowhats the point likeimma do it anyway but what's the point lol
