How the fuck are normie men affording to date? This shit is crazy. I’ve been on 8 dates so far this month and i’m down $1.3k. These girls are always asking for steak houses like ruth chris or an upscale restaurant like pappadeaux. I’ve only gotten to home base like once but most of these girls just eat for a bit, pack up their food and leave. This is getting so fucking annoying and are guys actually okay with this? I don’t want to make a scene in public.
i take my girlfriend to expensive restaurants and she tells me she's aroace but will eventually have sex with me if i keep taking her on dates and shit for an extended period of time, maybe. i think i'm getting played boys
>>61115588go to coffee instead
>>61115588I've never paid for a date in my life. I've fucked over 30 women and now have a wife and 2 kids. I thank God every day I was not born in the US .
>>61115602They don’t accept it and they get really mad.
>>61115588I was on three dates this month and it cost me a combined $700. One of those dates by itself was was $330 because she insisted on tinder that it would be some upscale sushi place. It has gotten so expensive and I'm so frustrated bros
>>61115616rape them like the new majority will to get them used to it
>>61115659Yeesh, how do we solve this though. If you suggest coffee or a walk they get super pissy and call you broke. I’m frustrated.
>>61115616Your first mistake was caring what women think.
>>61115588You're spending $162.50 on each date, what the fuck are you doing? If a bitch really wants you, she'll go to McDonald's with you, otherwise she's using you as a free meal.
>>61115616pushover
This is the most pathetic shit I've read in awhile. Don't you faggots have any dignity or self respect for yourselves? Or are you THAT DESPERATE for used, blown out roastie pussy that you'd willingly allow yourselves to be played like this, cementing the fact that you're actually a whipped beta male? Millenials and Gen Z are so fucked.
I just get an escort every month. $200 for 30 mins. Fap 2 times a week while reading hentai to keep my lust in check. Honestly best decision I ever made, financial wise that is.
>>61115588Why would you not just fuck a prostitute instead of this pathetic quasi prostitution
>>61115692Yeah sucks man. Date was also quite short and after she seemed to have finished she was in bathroom a short while. Three minutes later her bbf called her but she declined. Bff kept calling and she eventually picked up and urgently had to leave. Somehow she doesn't reply any more. It's now mid of the month and I'm practically broke
>>61115599>i think i'm getting played boysya probably, you can test this easily by just giving her a bunch of attention in an inexpensive setting and if she cuts it short then she is just looking for money. girls love any and all attention from guys they truly like
>>61115599if ur goal for being in a relationship is just getting laid, youve got bigger problems buddy
>>61115733Yeah, I gotta jerk off less to start appreciating moreI usually go to AMP's for $200 for 1 hour once a monthIf I feel generally lonely, I fly to vietnam or japan and get a GF for a year
>>61115780>If I feel generally lonely, I fly to vietnam or japan and get a GF for a yearhow often do you do that, anon
>>61115733ya but you have to watch them stare off into space and dissociate as you insert your wiener and that feels really bad
>>61115764notice that Chad never has to have muh pure heart
>>61115588I don’t date because incel but I thought the zoomers didn’t date either. I thought people were becoming redpilled on women and they just skip the dating part for hook up as dating is being seen as a humilation ritual that non chads have to go through, or if they do go on a date make the woman pay her share
>>61115791Every other year it feels like.The thing is that I fucking hate living in hotels even if they're generally cheap so I bounce out after 7-8 monthsIt's a sorta on a whim thing.
>>61115817Some men are just complete biological goyslaves and will humiliate and torture themselves just so they can shit out a kid with a woman that doesn't care about them.
>>61115797We've got to invest more in sex bots.
>>61115804anyone dating for pure sex is dumb imotrue connection/value built on mutual support, love care, interest, attention. if u want sex hire a hooker, get a onahole, or jack off nerd
>>61115831>The thing is that I fucking hate living in hotels even if they're generally cheap so I bounce out after 7-8 monthsWhy not bounce around AirBnBs with more amenities if that's the issue
>>61115860Yea but knowing a woman finds you attractive enough for sex is a good feeling
>>611158721. I don't want to clean shit2. They mark it up 10x the price3. No free breakfasts in the morning A shitty hotel in vietnam is only like $250 a monthA pretty good hotel is like $500A luxury one is $1500A fucking airbnb is like 900 - 1200 and you have to clean that shit yourself. Meanwhile I get new sheets every single day in a hotel and can throw crumbs all around the floor and not give a fuck
>>61115881wahh wahh external validation keep on it brother
>>61115588Paying money to date a woman that you haven't fucked yet is just the biggest waste of money for a man nowadaysAt least the losers who pay money to OF chicks get a sexual release from it
What the fuck did I just read. How cucked are you Anon. Why the FUCK would I take someone somewhere where I am not comfortable? If the girl does not like you for you, you are getting played for free meal by some roastie that makes fun of you in the groupchat. You literally disghust me.> they call me brokeWhy would I care what some whore calls me. I take each girl for a tea or biliard and if that is not good enough I dont want her "periodt"Sometimes I think you Americans allowed your women to be this retarded and entilted
make the woman to pay
Kek why are americans so cucked they even have to pay for dates? Here in europe you’re seen as desperate if you pay for anything for a woman.
>>61116041Maybe in retarded western europe. It is a duty for a man to pay but also not to be a pushover
>>61115588Sounds like you could use some time off instead
What a pathetic thread. It does belong in /r9k/ not here. It has nothing to do with making money. We are in 2025, AI is posed to destroy the porn industry, inceldom is at record highs, and I have to read this simp talking about dating. Dating, for fucks sake!
Wow, OP and others in this thread are truly, truly pathetic. When I was still dating I offered to go out for drinks or coffee for the first date and spent maybe $20-70 max, sometimes had dates where money was not necessary. This is in a decent size US city. I pity you all, fucking losers lmao
>>61115967wtf is it bubu on the left?
>>61116041>Here in europeoi do you have a loicense for 4chins?
i always ask women to go fishing for the first date. if they dont want to fish i dont want them anyway
>>61115588>>61115599See the problem you niggers are having is you're probably going for stacy. My gf is fat and she made me some incredibly delicious pulled pork sandwiches (that she bought the ingredients for), I don't eat her out and pounded that pussy twice this weekend, nutted inside (she's infertile) and we played videogames together.Technically I've been making money by having her, been saving crazy amounts of money on food and I don't get nagged about shit, I can do whatever I want.
>>61116458This is a good idea, for the second date with my GF I asked her out to a bigfoot festival because no woman on the planet would willingly go to such a place unless she was a nutjob crystal healing lunatic or really into me
>>61116465you're a loser for dating a fat chick, full stop
>>61116474considering you actually paid for your dates I don't think you have room to call other people losers. imagine paying for pussy where a fat bald 30 year old such as myself gets it for free. feels good to be into fat chicks
>>61116498Massive, MASSIVE cope
>>61116474Hot chicks are like drugs, fat chicks are like fast food.
>>61116502>>61116498I want yall and everyone reading this to know that dating fat chicks is never, ever acceptable. You are giving the actual normal (skinny) women power by enabling fat disgusting women access to sex.
>>61115588True story Anon.I was blessed with above average male looks.Never had trouble finding a girl, ever, but didn't realize they made the choice.Once you age, and less women are even looking at you, you understand what it must be like for everyone else.And there is no more way to put things back to natural order.
>>61116465How fat we talking here?
>>61116537Not super fat, standard chubby latina. she comes pre-programmed to make authentic mexican food as well. The downside is that if I don't go to the gym regularly I pack on weight 2x faster than I used to
>>61116561You have to give like a BMI number or height and weight, when you say fat these days people imagine some mobility scooter landwhale not some chubby who might have been called fat before the 90s
>>61116582I'm 6'4" so it's hard to estimate height but I imagine her BMI is somewhere between 30-32 or so
>>61116617Who doesn't know their gfs height? You just say hola and gracias and that's it? Anyway >30 is properly obese that's kinda nasty
>>61115588Firstly I'm not American, so I wouldn't know about burger women. Second - I always suggest something like a coffee date. If they say no, then it's their loss.I've been with my current gf for three years now, our first date was a hike.
>went on a coffee date with now-fiancée>everything has worked out well>one of her friends (single) is telling another friend (also single) that anything less than dinner is unacceptableIf a woman doesn’t get coffee or drinks with you on the first date, don’t do it. Who are these doofuses spending $200 on dinner to determine compatibility? Lol.
>>61116635I'm not a woman so my partner's height doesn't really matter to me, and it's even less noticeable of a trait if everyone you interact with is shorter than you anyway. She mentioned it before and I wasn't paying attention, either 5'10" or 5'7" if I remember right
>>61115616Dude, grow a sack. I’m not saying be cheap. You take them to get some good food later, third or fourth date.
>>61115616>>61115692Then they're not the type of women you want. Stop craving pussy so badly.>>61116097Imagine talking about male "duty" in 2025, where men are hated, and women are strong independent women who don't need a man. Are you a christcuck or something?
>>61115797not if you have a good dick, hookers genuinely enjoy having sex with you then
>>61116705anon...
>>61115797Just tell her a joke or something
coffee, park, beer date first. i dont do meals until i've done a cheap date, if that's a deal breaker for some gold diggers good, that's the point. real life isn't 4 stars every night
>upscale restaurant like pappadeauxIs Pappadeaux upscale?>>61115764The only reason men even tolerate being around women os to get laid. Wtf? Easy access to pussy is why men get into relationships.
>>61115616They're using you
>>61115588How do you get 8 dates
>>61115733this is a really solid strategy for men 20-29 to build wealth and focus on gains
>>61115588Im only paying for steak if i'm getting my meat marinated.
>>61115588They're hungry. They can't afford beef. They're trading companionship time for food. That is all.
Have you tried activities like kayaking, or salsa dancing, or church? Something other than dining.
Woman love free meal like you can’t believe, they would indulge in fine dining until they’re overwhelmed by the crave, obviously then they get blimp quickly.
>>61115588>buying dinners for ran through foidsAm I supposed to do this? I'm 30 and I haven't been on a date since 2018
>>61115588>I’ve been on 8 dates so far this month and i’m down $1.3k.InsaneAnd never through the process you stopped to think wtf am i doing
For the last fucking time: You will lose a lot of money chasing women, but you'll never lose women if you're chasing money.
I went to SEA and got a Chinese qt wife for free.2 kids and another on the way. BJs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Boom boom long time.
>>61115588If you're over 30 and single just give up, you're dying alone. Might as well use the money on better things.
>>61115588>pappadeaux>upscalejfc how horrifying
>>61116041The flip side to yurope is that most of them are broke and alone. They hook up occasionally and thats it. In america its harder to get sex but much easier to have a house and a family. The yurope lifestyle is more fun while younger, and is complete misery as you age.
>>61115588Robot waifu cannot come soon enough.
>>61115804Chad is also part of the problem.
I took my wife to a pizza place for less than $50 on our first date, and afterwards would do movies or parks or something. We both make 6 figures each now
>dinner as the first date holy fuck... modern men are seriously retarded. Just remember, what you're paying for and putting tons of effort into, another man got for FREE and without some gay ass dinner date
You think it's a dating app. She thinks it's Uber Eats. You are an Uber driver who takes her to the restaurant, pays for her food, and drives her home.
>>61115588>upscale>pappadeauxnani? I do like their po boys though.Bruh literally do not pay for their share. That's simp shit. When the bill comes ask them to split it. If that's a turn off for them you're getting out of a bad situation early anyway. I know you wanna fuck but a hooker would be cheaper than paying for a fancy dinner.
I have gone on a few dates.Never had a gf.Had my first kiss at 30.I am a virgin.Have a house though.>>61119587How?
Realistically what should I expect to spend on a date with a 30+ year old woman? I have no experience since I never dated in my 20s, but might be meeting a girl soon.
>>61115588Love from kazakhstan.
>>61115588HEY RETARD THEYRE USING YOU FOR FREE FOOD STOP FEEDING THEM
>>61115749>Bff kept callingMY NIGGA YOURE GETTING PLAYED HOW YOUNG ARE YOU JESUS CHRIST DO NONE OF YOU FUCKING NIGGERS HAVE ELDER BROTHERS?
>>61121465only if you're investing in non virgins
>>61115588I’m married now but I only ever asked women to coffee or drinks and always got there 5 minutes early to grab a seat and order myself something first.If you give them a chance to grab a free meal then they’ll take it. You’d do the same.
>>61116999>Is Pappadeaux upscale?He's young>>61115733How you are you finding escorts that cheap?
>>61115588Rookie mistake. Never spend more than $10 getting laid.
>>61115733Asking again where are you finding escorts that cheap?It's important.
>>61121943That's not cheap at all. I know a few that are 60-80, 160 is average for 30min
>>61115727>>61115714Date women, not hos.
>>61123628And you aren't worried about the police busting you?
>>61121469fucking grim
>>61115588you shouldn't be asking girls out on "dates" in the first place. just go to a bar, buy a couple tequila shots, and then take her home. or, if you meet online, just pick her up and take her to somewhere near your place, like a park or coffee shop or ice cream etc, and then walk her back to your place. if she won't meet up with you unless you specifically tell her which fancy expensive restaurant you're taking her to, then she's not interested in you and you'll have a better chance by rejecting her than by taking her out to a fancy dinner on your first date. or even second or third.
>>61115588You sound ugly and white. I take bitches to McDonald’s if they’re lucky but mostly just fuck them in my car and kick them to the curb. It helps to have a nice car tho. After going 180mph, bitches are horny af.
>>61115588If you were a Real player and had good dick she would pay for everything and let you live in her house for near free.
>>61116458based
>>61126363this
>>61115588This is most likely an American issue, if your tinder girl insist in no talking and going straight for an expensive dinner, she's a paid shill for a restaurant lol>anon, I like you, let's go for a meal, I'm thinking Cheng Chang's restaurant I've heard the food is the best in the city!>you want Chinese food? I know a pretty cheap Chinese restaurant just around the corner, and...>NO! YOU TAKE ME TO CHENG CHONG AND ORDER THE MOST EXPENSIVE FOOD THERE! Are you even a man? I mean I'll reward you properly later if you catch my drift tee hee (I hate this creep and i wish i could tell him to fuck off but I need the money... the moment he orders I'll just cash out my commission and get out of there)
>>61115588>how the fuck are normies affording [X, Y, or Z]debt.
>>61115588>These girls are always asking for steak houses like ruth chris or an upscale restaurant like pappadeaux. Is this true? I've been out of the dating game for a long time now. Can some young anon give me a quick rundown of what it's like to go on dates now? I'm in law school and almost everyone is single, both guys and girls. They're all around 23-26 years old. From what I can gather, girls don't like most guys because they don't match up to their standards. And guys just don't try or try too hard and most of them are pretty beta. Am I in the ballpark? I'm like 10 years older than them, so I have no idea. Im a millenial, but it's really weird seeing zoomers all be single and the guys and girls don't interact with each other. Though some of the popular guys have fucked several of the popular girls. But everyone else is bone dry.
>>61115588You don't take girls to places like that on a first date. You take them someplace decent but cheap.I have a local tavern that has a fucking fantastic fish fry every Friday evening. Any chick who wouldn't be happy with that is not dating material.
>>61126720>law schoolLOL. I went back for law school after I couldn't get jobs any more in tech. Turns out being old is an advantage in law because people automatically assume you're experienced and know things even when you just started.Your experience sounds about like what I have heard from the zoomies. Dating has been kinda shattered. Even fat ugly girls think they rate a multimillionaire chad.I was at a bar with a couple of my male classmates when some of our female classmates showed up and briefly joined us. The girls were having a whispered conversation about how they were all going on dates in another half-hour or so, and how much they were going to rip off the guys who were dumb enough to ask them out for. Like, they were only going on these "dates" to get a free meal out of some suckers, with zero chance of anything more for the guys. This was about 15 years ago. From what I gather, it's only gotten worse for the younger crowd.
>>61115733I don’t get it. If the girl isn’t even into you what’s the point? Why not just a pocket pussy? I only get off by their desire for my cock.
>>61116465>she's infertileSo she's useless
God I'm glad I'm married and don't have to deal with money pits like stupid dates.
>>61115599based
>>61115602>>61115588 >go to coffee instead This . Starbucks . If in US - Find GOOD quality diner in your area, not shitty ones that are everywhere , but that serve good quality real food , and take her there. Diner even if you splurge is $15-20 / person (unless you are in NYC or LA, and then you are effed).
>>61115616>>61115692Starbucks, anon, women love it. There may be some local high quality cafes, run by actual real people who can cook - find a european cafe, a french cafe etc. It's a lot cheaper and food is much better, and you can go for lunch or breakfast. Women LOVE european cafes.
>>61116639>our first date was a hikeBased. Hikes are great because you save money, you get your blood pumping, and you see whether or not she's a weakling/fat slob.
>>61115588lmao you fucking virgins. my first date with my gf was literally drinking cheap wine some friend hand forgotten in my car at a park... we fucked the same night. brought her on an expensive trip a year and a half later but she still payed half the trip. she is 7yr younger and still in school and i have a high paying job that can afford to spoil her but don't. she is obsessed with me regardless
>>61131057Your wife fucking you on a first date is a major red flag. She's done the same with other dudes no doubt. Imagine the mother of your kids getting fucked by random guys that she met that night who spent like $15 on her
>>61131057Unc talm bout he was 25 rizzing up minors outside the high school
you are in a classic nice guy situation. you naturally assume that the girls that you date will be nice girls. unfortunately nobody has taught you that most girls aren't. i mean, most guys aren't either. but they naturally assume that the girls are like they are. so even if nobody taught them, they no these cunts will grab their money and run. so from the start they will select their dates better than you do -- in their case, select the ones that will put out in case you take them out to a shmancy restaurant.i mean, it's good. keep your attitude. that's the only way you will have a meaningful relationship on common grounds. but you have to get smarter about your dating decisions. you just want to fuck someone? or do you want to find a significant other? either way, as a nice guy you are super prone to be taken advantage of -- as your experience shows.
>>61127310Not everyone's goal is to raise 6 shitty ass kids who are all going to die of a fentanyl overdose before they're 25
>>61132483Not that anon, but I don't give a fuck if my girl is ran through considering that I stopped counting my body count after 150
>>61133911Not everyone lives in a degenerate shithole like the muttnited states of shartmerica where high body counts are normal
>>61115588I’ve never went on a date. I just turned 28 this year btw
>>61133895Maybe with a shitty ass father that might happen
>>61115616You have got to be fucking trolling with thisBut in the off chance that you're not:If you approach a woman and ask her out on a cheap first date like a coffee date or a fast food date (spending no more than $20 on her), and she shows ANY sign of dissatisfaction with that type of date, then tell that bitch to go carry her fucking ass somewhere and you go find a next chick immediatelyYou know why you're passing up on her? Because she failed the test. That shit is a filter to get women to indirectly admit whether they find you attractive or whether they consider you a random ugly guy to get free expensive food fromMost women when approached by a man who they immediately find attractive, will either fuck him that same night or at the very least, show clear signs that she's into him (she should at the very least allow a kiss by the end of the date; that's another test). And that guy usually won't have to do any kind of proper 'date' to get that response from her (dudes pick up bitches from the club to fuck them that same night all the time)But here you are offering to buy her a FREE decent meal, and the bitch immediately responds with complaints about how she expects more? Yeah, she isn't into you. Take the clear hint and move the fuck on from herReserve expensive/fancy dinner dates (any place where her meal is more than $20 total) only for women who you fucked already
>>61115588>women are using men to enter into debt liability freeLol, lamo even. Based women, these men never had a chance.
>>61115616>hey maam u wanna get dinner?>yuh>hey maam u wanna get icecream, breakfast or cofee?>INCEL!Women throw the biggest shits over 10 dollars.
>>61115588>go into debt for some bitches who will say NOI am a retard but at least I am not a simp
>>61115588never go somewhere expensive on a first dateif she demands it, she's not worth it
>>61115588for $1300 you can get two 8/10 sugar babies at roughly $600 a pop. Yes it's pay to play but it's a way better return than blowing away your hard earned mula on vanilla dating.
>>61115588the fuck are you doing?of course women are uppity as fuck, idiots like you make them believe they should be treated like royaltyfucking simp cunt
>>61115804You are not supposed to point that out.
>>61115860You must be 18+ to post in 4chan.
a mcdonalds is plenty
>>61133791a woman typed this. get off biz before you lose all your 80yo husbands money.
>>61115616There's an entire generation of unraised men that were never taught how to spot if somebody is just using (You) or not. We're about to enter great depression 2.0 as every facet of the modern world is FUBAR and these cuntoids are getting bent outta shape because her date isn't expensive enough. Do no waste precious energy and attention on these utter normgroids.
>>61137629>I am a retard but at least I am not a simpAll simps are retards, but not all retards are simps
