The system is eating itself.When Amazon, UPS, Intel, and others start cutting this deep simultaneously, it means something more fundamental than “tight margins.” It means the productive layer of the economy is collapsing under the weight of its own optimization logic.Every layoff now is both an act of short-term rationality and long-term suicide. The firms know it. The executives know it. The markets know it. But they can’t stop.They’re trapped in a closed feedback loop, a machine that rewards death dressed as discipline.Capitalism has crossed into a stage where it no longer needs humans to function, but still depends on their belief to exist. That’s the contradiction, the machine is pruning its own believers while pretending it’s efficiency.
The “consumer economy” is already dead.Nobody wants to say it yet, but the consumer model, the entire foundation of Western postwar prosperity, is quietly finished.You can’t build infinite growth on finite wages, and you can’t sustain demand while hollowing out the class that drives it. The middle layer of society - the producers, buyers, dreamers - has been strip-mined to the point where they can no longer regenerate.The 2020s economy is not cyclical recession. It’s metabolic collapse. The system can’t process its own waste or regenerate its base anymore. It’s like an organism starving while eating its muscles to stay warm.
>>61217701The elites know this, but they’ve chosen to accelerate collapse.Here’s the real unspoken truth: the people running these companies, the ones with the spreadsheets and control over capital flows - they know exactly what’s happening.They understand the reflexive trap: if they don’t cut, their stock dies. If they cut, the world dies.They’ve chosen to save the stock. Because the stock is their world.This is the quiet revelation of our time - we are ruled by people whose survival incentives are no longer tied to the survival of the system itself.They’ve built lifeboats - offshore wealth, private security, parallel digital economies - and they’re optimizing the ship for their escape, not for collective navigation
>>61217707The next phase is narrative triage.When the system can no longer grow, it starts storytelling harder.Expect every layoff wave to be accompanied by new propaganda about “AI productivity,” “efficiency,” “lean reinvention,” and “post-labor creativity.”The goal will be to reframe collapse as progress - to convince people that losing their jobs is the dawn of a “new paradigm.”But it’s camouflage. The truth underneath is that automation and financialization are converging into a post-human economy where capital reproduces without labor.
>>61217716Final layer When a system prioritizes margin over humanity, it signals that it has lost faith in the future.These layoffs tell us that the machine no longer knows how to grow except by shrinking.It is the same signal we’ve seen in housing, in politics, in fertility, in faith.The same quiet collapse, a civilization optimizing itself into silence.And the question hidden beneath this post:“Who will have money left to buy your products next year?”is really this:Who will be left to believe in the story that built it all?
>>61217700I have never ai or invested a single cent in it and does not planning at all, these nigger corps can die today as i care.
>>61217726Forgot the pic sorry dood!
>>61217701>he thinks the wagie slave cattle is or was the middle layer everLmao, whos gonna tell him.
>>61217736Tell what? We've never had capitalism: e.g. 13% of the population is on food stamps and the very same money makes up 25% of Walmart's revenue. And we've been in recession since Feb 2023 but politically spun it otherwise to prop up the blue team's election odds. These cuts are companies slicing off the wood just before we nose up, it's an opportunity play attached to whatever people will swallow (AI).
how much money did you lose shorting UPS or whatever today?
It means the AI is good enough to call finished and they're running the interface past several focus groups to gauge user friendliness. Is this, like, you guys' first time living on this planet?
>>61217700>>61217701>>61217707>>61217716>>61217720Good read, I really hope AI didn't write it. It's super annoying that I even need to wonder that now. Population collapse also plays a major part in this systematic failure. There is not enough young people to properly replace and sustain the working generations of the past. Gen Z needed to be bigger and Gen Alpha will be way too small. Honestly companies are probably pushing AI hard to mitigate this problem. I also do not believe this is a "capitalism" specific issue but rather a product of the modern era. All first world countries are essentially running into the exact same issue right now.
>>61217700I know this is a midwit question. But could this all be resolved by actually having wages keep up with inflation? Or would it cause this spiral to happen quicker?You seem to have thought this out alot
>>61217739Owning 100 slaves was considered middle class, were just going back to the natural order. Boomer prosperity was the exception, not the rule.
>>61217748So, what replaces the consumer model?What replaces the consumer model is already forming in the shadows.It’s not a market of buyers and sellers anymore - it’s a market of believers and systems. AI, crypto, and data economies don’t sell products - they sell participation. They turn attention, behavior, and computation into capital.The next model isn’t consumption-driven.It’s circulation-driven - energy, code, and narrative looping through networks that no longer need human demand to sustain them.When the consumer dies, the system keeps going.Because the new commodity isn’t stuff. It’s signal.
>>61217701thanks chatgpt
>>61217757How cute. I didn't know that stringing more than two sentences together was hard for you
>>61217747>falling for obvious ChatGPT slopWhat's really happening is that the economy is headed straight into the shitter, but fucking retards look at the bad economic data and blame it on "muh AI", pushing the bubble to even more unsustainable levels.
this is the direct result of number must go up at any cost the system just can't sustain itself
>>61217770Well of course the economy is in the shitter and going ever deeper, that's very apparent. Housing to income ratio is beyond ruined and imo that is one of the most important economic indicators. Generally speaking, people work to own a home. If not today they work to have it tomorrow. Gen Z is completely fucked out of owning a home right now.
>>61217754Killing off 2/3rds of them with MRNA shots then putting.whoever's left on UBI.
>>61217764>"it's not X. it's why." on repeatdo you think we are dumb and won't recognize telltale signs?
Fiat always goes to zero, and these fags plan around this. Companies under the control of nameless elite are trying to make sure you don't own a home so you'll have to rent from them forever, and they'll have control over what you can buy and where you can stay. Land's getting bought up for company use, farmers get paid to not produce while arable land is getting covered in shit to supposedly offset carbon or whatever instead of unusable land to get food crises going. Hungry people will do anything to feed their families, even if it means accepting sawdust bread full of crickets; water will also probably be a hot target soon so keep your eyes on Canada.AI is shit, but they won't drop it ever because it's too useful for surveillance management strategies and adding desperation to the people. Lots of them are clamoring for UBI, which would be under control of Not You and distributed at their discretion. There's a push for digital currencies and IDs, kept on servers also controlled by Not You, determining what you can and can't get access to based on your wrongthink levels and good boy points. Everything is designed to push people further into apathy and isolation. Lonely tech retards will replace their dicks with the latest proprietary gizmo if they think the IoT will give them an AI waifu that grants orgasms on demand, all controlled by whatever company for the parts/meds and sticking their biometrics on their servers. The idea is to make it so everything is centralized and under the control of anyone but you.
>>61217700YOu will always have to work for a living faggot.
>>61217829>Killing off 2/3rds of them with MRNA shots then putting.whoever's left on UBI.I demand reparations
Scary read
>>61218132why would you read this, it's slop
How is this not just cutting the fat and incredibly bullish for all those companies?
>>61218136Because it took me about 50 seconds to read and LLM slop is unironically a better read than 90% of the garbage here
Just learn a trade and get over it.
>>61217701>You can’t build infinite growth on finite wagesYes you can, infinity in necessarily compounded finite values and since time exists, the finite daily wages over an indeterminate amount of time are by definition an unbounded infinity.
>>61217716>automation and financialization converging into a post-human economy where capital reproduces without labor.Automation isn't simply manufacturing capital, it is manufacturing external goods and services unaided as well, that isn't a collapse of wealth, it is the exact opposite, a profound immense explosion of wealth.
>>61217720>“Who will have money left to buy your products next year?”Who needs money when automation is producing so much excess that they struggle to even give away all the extra goods and services to the point they are producing so much we are already throwing away half the food and clothes they make while upgrading to the newest smart phones and throwing away perfectly fine ones that are a bit outdated?
>>61217716>Expect every layoff wave to be accompanied by new propaganda about “AI productivity,” “efficiency,” “lean reinvention,” and “post-labor creativity.”Did you see Amazon's PR about the layoffs? It's exactly that. I'd say it's a masterclass in corporate gaslighting but it sounds like every other piece of corporate PR from a big company.They really try to make you think they're heroes for laying off a small city's worth of people amidst record growth and profit.
They created thousands, millions of useless corporate jobs throughout the last years, grown up day care as you call it, this is basically just the culling of these useless jobs
>They’re trapped in a closed feedback loop, a machine that rewards death dressed as discipline.AI slop writing
>>61218337They aren't going to give anything away.
>>61217700When the tipping point hits, we'll get a real authoritarian government. The sooner the more likely it's not a brown communist disaster.
>>61217700>>61217701>>61217707>>61217716>>61217720Bullish for XRP
>>61218571They already do. You can already get free AI certs from google and openai to encourage you to use their free services.
>>61217754>They turn attention, behavior, and computation into capitalBy and large this has always been going on, no new paradigm. >>61217754>It’s circulation-driven - energy, code, and narrative looping through networks that no longer need human demand to sustain them.More long-winded sentences without actually saying anything new. Just say technofeudalismShit thread
>>61217747It was AI slop, that he snipped the most egregious LLMisms out of. But the turns-of-phrase he used are absolutely clanker.
>>61217747>AI didn't write itI put it into grok heavy and it's says it was written by a human, but like you say its pretty much impossible to know now....
>>61217754ai slop
>>61217764It is. For you.
>>61217700Notice how Nvidia doesn't need to cut staff.
nah, companies minmaxing bullshit just reached a point where most CEOs finally realized 50% of the workforce can be cut because they do not do anything productive for the company anyway.
>>61217700This is PROOF of the power of AI.Only retards think this is a sign of weakness.The West is the best in AI and what you are seeing is an expected change in the form of employment.Once AI gets established then even those fired will get to see their life getting better as GDP goes through the roof.
>>61217707>They’ve built lifeboats - offshore wealth, private security, parallel digital economies - and they’re optimizing the ship for their escape, not for collective navigationAhem, my previous post aside, this is an illusion. All power originates from this structure we call society, even knowledge.
>>61217754Now you definitely sound like chatgpt.
>>61219081Nope, those signals are passing through nothing, there aren't devices that need to be manufactured consuming the energy at all, the consumer model is finished.
>>61217700America is over
>>61217700
>the remaining employed humans + the robot slaves that will replace the larpareto principle, will now generate enough taxable wealth to provide the fired / laid off with basic incomeThat shrimple
>>61217754>It’s not a market of buyers and sellers anymoreIt hasn't been for quite some time. The issue with ever expanding "pools" of capital is that it's noisier than the individual. This means all purchasing power stems from groups. Control the groups, control how much they're worth and you can effectively dictate these economic pools. We've had a controlled economy that hasn't insisted on removing capital pools until recently, but that's only because resources are getting scarce and monopolies are getting bigger and despite being the biggest fish in the water, which means there's less competition, the competition is more cutthroat in other ways because there's so little variety. Unless you're peak normie, everyone knows fiat currency is worthless, it's now a question of whether or not social rules say your asset is protected or worth anything. This is why you see things like crypto adoption or people being priced out of housing, it's all power plays to keep market dynamism low or to validate the value of something you have lots of so it's valued more.
>>61219208Why would the remaining employed humans consent to that arrangement?
>>61219365Because those will be mostly the narcissistic tryhards and they won't settle for joining the slave caste with their meager conditional $1k/mo.
>>61219405Neither will they settle for the steep devaluation of their labor that would make a weimar bank teller blush.
>>61217707>They understand the reflexive trap: if they don’t cut, their stock dies. If they cut, the world dies.>They’ve chosen to save the stock. Because the stock is their world.Companies in the US have a legal responsibility called fiduciary responsibility to bring value to the shareholders. If they do not do that, the shareholders can take legal action against the CEO and send him to jail kek
>>61219422It would be funny to watch them try to figure out ways to become robochad's strongest sycophants and augment themselves to become half-robot, only to retain that super-human status.
>>61217739>13% of the population is on food stamps and the very same money makes up 25% of Walmart's revenue.Thats a misquoted statistic. 25% of SNAP gets spent at Walmart but its not 25% of Walmarts income, only about 3.5%.
>>61218957>life will improve because muh high GDPAbsolute retard. GDP has nothing to do with the quality of your life or how rich you are.The internet is full of deranged retards and midwits parroting niggerbabble.
>>61217747>he can’t tell when it’s ai
>>61218216This is a harsh reality and indictment of our shitpost induced communication standards. When does ai deem a good portion of humanity 'slop?'>it already verifiably is
They employed a bunch of PoC's and DEI hires during the Biden administration and have swiftly found out that they weren't actually being held back due to systemic racism and oppression.
I agree that the economy is fundamentally changing due to emerging technologies, I disagree that the reduction in workforce is bad for these businesses, or signals their death, I believe that these jobs were genuinely necessary to the corporations growth or they would not have existed in the first place, and due to a combination of factors chiefly advanced automation and a change in the economic environment like tariffs these jobs genuinely do not make economic sense to the corporations any longer and thus are cut.
>>61219970Yeah this thread struck me more as amphetamine fueled ramblings over AI slop.
