So Tesla's are becoming more affordable on the used market. Financially speaking, are Tesla's more cost effective than a gasoline variant? Say Camry, RAV4. Etc. maintenance costs. Fuel costs. Etc
>>61237786No, because batteries degrade, and toyota ICEs last centuries.
>>61237790Toyota makes more cars, better cars, and cheaper cars, yet Tesla's valuation dwarfs Toyota. How is the stock market supposed to work?
>>61237809hyped by promises of self driving cars. Toyota is just white bread.
>>61237786Unfortunately I paid full price $50k+ for my Model 3 Long Range years ago and it's worth less than half that now. I cope by thinking about all the money I saved by not buying gasoline or doing oil changes and having low interest rate financing. It's mostly maintenance-free though. I only replace the tires and windshield wipers as needed. It's been a great, fun ride so far but I think I'll get rid of it in a few years before the battery warranty runs out. Maybe I'll go electric again but I do miss having a manual trans sports car.
>>61237786>used teslaIshygddt
>>61237836>manual transgotta troonlover ova here
>>61237809Tesla is not a car company- it is a data company. Toyota cars are very well engineered and made, and why technicals are almost always a HiLux/ Tacoma variant
>>61237786Batteries degrade, the car is software reliant and the base technology (batteries and drivetrain) is improving rapidly vs ICE (burn fuel to make power) Old Tesla's are going to be expensive paperweights soon if not alreadyIronically the best use case for an electric car is to buy them from the Chinks who sell at almost dumping prices, and go for either a city work mule that will be beat up anyway or a city sports car that you plan to drive hard, take to tracks sometimes and then flip to some zoomer in 2 years once the tech improves again. By city i presume "GREEN" cities where there is a lot of whinging about emissions which an EV allows you to ignore
>become more affordable in the used marketIts called deprecation and you have to ask why, why do EVs deprecate faster than anything else?(Porsche Taycan has the record of fastest deprecation of any porsche, ever, like 50% in 3 yrs)Spoiler: none wants used EVs mostly due to batteries
Used EVs are hot potatoes, don't really know why people even buy them
>>61237809Stock prices are based on expected future growth. A company whose stock could perceivably moon is worth a lot more than a much larger company whose business is already established and has little room left to grow.
I’m not going to buy this until Elon is out of the USA and not connected to Tesla and isn’t subverting and pillaging the government for handouts. These are shit, we don’t need them right now
>>61237786Generally yes, but your personal circumstances will play a role in the cost-effectiveness of the Tesla. If you own your home and can drip charge overnight, then your battery degradation will be minimal. Same is true if you live in moderate climate. If you have some kind of solar at your home, that will greatly decrease your fuel cost. You will save on oil changes, break pads, general maintenance. But this is assuming you're not a tinkerer/able to work on traditional cars yourself. Teslas have fewer recalls, once your remove over-the-air software updates from stats.That said, having a house and solar (and the price premium of a Tesla if you buy new) represent a significant opportunity cost that is not unlike the renting vs owning debate. For most people, I think it's a wash. So instead of basing your decision solely on cost effectiveness, look at performance and features. Tesla's biggest feature is unquestionably FSD. So get a "test ride". I think Tesla has solved 95% of self driving on HW4. Ironically, if Robotaxi works out, you may not even want to own a car.
>>61237786Yes. Best cat I’ve ever owned, by far. Bought a model y 22 for 25k. It fucking drives me around automatically and costs me $9 to charge it. It’s fucking insane.
>>61238474Just piss off you insufferable shrill Redditor, go back to your shithole website
>>61237820I’ve put 7k miles on my Tesla since buying it in July, almost entirely all with full self driving. I’ve driven less than 100 miles manually since I got it. Kek.
>>61238459The top 3 safest cars on market are literally all teslas.
>>61238829Would you buy a used EV?
>>61238840I did, see>>61238625
why not lease a used tesla for 150/month?
>>61237786IT'S MORE ABOUT SAVING TIME THAN MONEY.
>>61237786>used Tesla>Financially speaking, are Tesla's more cost effective than a gasoline variant?The problem is that unlike Chrysler/GM/F*rd/whatever, there is no aftermarket parts manufacturer for Tesla parts. Other than basic crap like screws and bolts, everything is sole-source from Tesla.Also, the things that are most likely to break (or burn out, really) are all the electronics boards that have microcontrollers on them, and the microcontrollers have firmware, and the firmware is copyrighted. So even if an aftermarket parts company were to manufacture the board, they couldn't legally install the firmware on it, and neither can you.End result, Tesla can charge you whatever they want for a ten-dollar board, and they do. And everything I've read about Tesla repair services says that (1) they charge you a fucking fortune, and (2) if your car isn't under warranty then they will stall you for months. People were resorting to going to junkyards to try to find parts in crashed Teslas.>>61238474Fuck you, Elon hasn't been getting "handouts" since Trump ended the EV subsidies in his first term.SpaceX isn't getting "handouts", they're providing launch services for a lower cost than any other company on the market (and there's only one, ULA (Boeing + LockMart), and ULA DOES receive a subsidy of over a billion dollars per year just to "maintain capability" and nothing else).>>61238941Interesting idea. Is that through Tesla itself or some other car dealership?
>>61239068Never heard of anyone having circuit board issues. There’s very little that can break on them.
Tesla seems cool and used ones are actually close to cheap used gas cars but you really want your own place if you want one. Maintenance is nothing on these vehicles, basically break pads only.
>>61237809tsla is making robots too
>>61237786I leased a model y. $0 down because of the ev tax credit, $200 a month, $20 to supercharge every two weeks (no home charger)
>>61239127Awesome deal. I just bought a house so am installing home charging, should only cost me about $3-$7 per charge moving forward.
>>61239127and the insurance?
I really dislike car dealers so I'll buy Tesla next. I don't like ev.
>>61239224That’s another thing. Buying mine was so easy. Literally entirely online then showed up at Tesla dealer, walked up to car, linked it to my phone and signed a paper and left. Would have been hours at a dealer and so many games played etc etc. boomer bull shit.
>>61237809>2025>a poster on /biz/>not knowing the stock market is just a fake casino with no grounding in realityHoly retard alert
>>61239082It's quite common for them to burn out on their own.
>>61237809Tesla is a bubble. If it dropped 90% in the next second everyone would be justifying it was a bubble by repeating your post.
>>61238380Those better and cheaper EVs are not allowed for Americans
EVs are for onions faggots who don't even wrench. By a ten year old used Toyota cash from fbmarketplace and shut the fuck up.
>>61239816Faggot.
>>61240098Fuck you retard, EVs are garbage on almost every front, and you're goycattle for buying one.
>Software-reliant onions eco-consciousness impaired onions turd-world conceived onions car which will become the foundation of a Messanic landfill in less than three years>At least I am spared from going to a car dealership for an hour
>>61237790Niggah, the battery degrades to like 80% and stays flat for the rest of the car life. the more you retards talk about that shit the funnier it is. Yea it cuts like what 50-60 miles from the total but for a daily drive that is plenty when capacity like 220-250.
>>61239816show me a good deal on a FB toyota because in my area they are jacked up as badly as the dealers
>>61240670Yea people are selling old cars for a crazy amount. I'd rather have a 2-3 year old model 3 with all the bells and whistles.
>buying an EV right at the cusp of AI data centers consuming exponentially more electricity every year from now nowElectricity is going to be getting a lot more expensive, and the US electric grid is so fucking bad it's not going to be able handle it, even if they starting buying new infrastructure *right now* - but they won't.The life of an EV owner is going to be like this:>waiting through a 12 hour blackout>rationed charing times /schedules controlled by smart meters>only being able to charge to 40% because OpenAI needs to make sure Karen can run her smut chat bot
>>61237786no. considering the battery will be worthless on it, especially in colder climates. also >>61240711my area was hit with brownouts/blackouts all summer. never an issue before but i expect that to become more commonplace as junk technology and 5 over 1 housing developments take over.
>>61240670Look for a 2000s lexus rx or toyota highlander.
>>61240670Tell me your location and I'll find one. Watch this https://youtu.be/PAxh4gqwHbY?si=tGAZF8SUmePtuf8Y, it's long but thorough. And once you find a certain model/year check the forums for common problems specific to that car.
>>61240674>bells and whistles >>61240098You're both brown.
>>61239068It's an electric car, the main cause of issue is the battery degradation which can be checked on the console. Other than that everything else such as the brakes, windscreen vipers, fuses for the electrics can be interchangeable with every other ICE vehicle
