Can I just throw it out after importing to like 5 different hardware wallets? I hate thinking about how vulnerable it is if someone found it.
>>61238629Dumb idea. What if all 5 hardware wallets are lost, destroyed, or stolen? I don't have a perfect solution either. I might split my seed phrase between my, my sister, and my parent's houses. Or I could set up a 25th word passphrase.
>>61238670That’s very unlikely though if stored separately. It’s far more likely someone would find a seed phrase than all 5+ wallets breaking or disappearing simultaneously.
Put a small amount on it and the rest on a passphrase wallet.
>>61238680You're putting faith in the hardware wallet always functioning properly. It's unlikely but still possible that it fails for some reason out of your control. You'd be totally fucked if you don't have access to the seed phrase.
>>61238629Uh, just tattoo it on the back of your eye lids.
>"crypto" people don't know how to use password managers that are cryptographically safe
>>61238730>storing seed in password manager defeating entire purpose of itKek newbie detected. I bought eth at $10 and link at 46 cents. Stay mad.
>>61238757>>storing seed in password managerask me how I know you've never used a (good) password manager.
>>61238796I’ve used them all homo. Currently using password manager that can only be access with physical Fido keys. Still will never store a seed phrase in it. Literal retard move.
>>61238821password managers will let you export the encrypted DB, retard. you could save the seed in its own encrypted DB, export it to multiple USB drives, to the cloud, obfuscate into some image, video or whatever, save its password in your main DB and stop giving a shit about it until you need the seed. if that times comes, you open that DB from a live Linux system or whatever and operate from therebut you are too stupid and tech illiterate, so you >muh hardware keysas if there haven't been attacks against security devices lmao
>>61238870>over engineering seed storage that will result in corrupted db and lost keysCongrats on this retard for real.
>>61238902>>over engineering seed storage that will result in corrupted db and lost keysHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAtell me how I know you know literally nothing about computers at all lmaot.pentester
>>61238913>zoomer detected who just learned cybersec 101 and thinks he’s 1337 nowKek I built my computer when I was 11 in 2001 pre YouTube and worked in cybersec and opsec for longer than you’ve been alive. God speed lil nigga.
>>61238921>zoomer>cybersec 101I'm a millenial, do pentesting for fun and profit, and I have a bunch of CVEs under my namewhat about you?
>>61238929>what about you?nevermind. I remember now that you are too stupid to copy files from one device to others without corrupting it kek
>>61238929Then you should know analog is more secure than digital in some cases. Storing crypto seeds is one.
One time when I was on a cash register buying some groceries all of a sudden I just randomly forgot my credit card PIN. 4 digits I use daily completely wiped from memory. Mid 20s, healthy, no brain damage or concussions or anything. After that I wrote my master password on paper and put it in my safe. Human memory is unreliable as fuck and should never be a single point of failure.
>>61238982>muh hardwareanon, stop being retarded. just google "fido attacks".hardware is not a magical black box, and it can be attacked. if your system is compromised, you are fucked, no matter how "safe" your setup seems to be.
>>61238999Best argument so far.
>>61238629Get a cheap computer that you will never connect to the internet.Download a good encryption package such as PGP.Type your seed phrase into a file.Encrypt the fuck out of the file.Put the file on flash drives scattered all across the world.Incinerate the sheet of paper you've got it written down on, as well as the computer.Wa-la. Now you have a seed phrase that only you can access, as long as you remember the password, and you've got more backups in case Yellowstone blows.>>61238982LOL. You should know that "analog" (a sp written on paper) isn't "more secure than digital", it just has different vulnerabilities. And frankly, there's no way to protect against those vulnerabilities. Your house can be broken into while you're away, and your safe can be ripped out of the wall and taken, and if that fails the attacker can come back and kidnap you and torture the location of the piece of paper out of you.That's not a hypothetical. During the COVID lockdowns I had to go take care of my mother and was out of my apartment for six months because of border shutdowns. When I finally made it back to the shithole country I was residing in, someone who knew I had Bitcoin had broken into my apartment and stole my hard drives. (How did he know I had Bitcoin? He was a coworker and I'd told him that Bitcoin was a good idea to invest in, back in 2015.)Guess what? He couldn't figure out how to decrypt anything.So he tried breaking in again about a year later while I was asleep, but made so much noise that I woke up.
>>61239024This is basically same or worse as just importing seed into a backup hardware wallet though.
>>61239004Of course every system is penetrable. But pencil and paper, or engraved metal, and a semi-hidden fire+waterproof bolted down safe is a much better option than anything digital. The ratio of people losing their crypto to physical theft vs. forgotten passwords/ciphers is probably around 1:10,000.
>>61239024>So he tried breaking in again about a year later while I was asleep, but made so much noise that I woke up.Well don't leave us hanging anon.
>>61239024>as long as you remember the passwordlol, lmao
>>61238629Just hide it in plane sight, its just wordsLike have a "letter" from some company/bank thats actually something you have made and printedand the first word of each line is a word of your seed phraseor a custom made childrens book where the first world of each line is a word of your seed phrase
>>61239129This is probably one of the best ideas. Already kind of store my seed like this.
>>61238680ledger wallets break after 5 years. Intentionally so. Don't put your trust in hardware wallets working indefinitely.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6PoUg7jXsATry this. I have seedphrases memorized from almost a decade ago. HOWEVER, I also have it written down and because of that, I don't do quarterly practicing of making sure I've memorized my seedphrase.
>>61239024>Get a cheap computer that you will never connect to the internet.>Download a good encryption package such as PGP.
>>61239207I store my seed in a sock when I run out of tissues
>>61238629how about just memorizing the thing like you would a social security number? Listen to a catchy tune and the lyrics are your phrase, over and over, eventually youll have it memorized
>>61239951Kek>>61239960Feels risky.
