Do any of you who have children NOT regret having them?
I don't have children. One part of me wants to have children, the other part fears the financial realities of doing so
>>61291278I feel like there would be more people who regret having kids than not having them. Getting married and having kids is just about the worst thing you can do for your wealth.
>>61291278Don't regret it at all, i already have my little buddy a portfolio building up so he's decades ahead of his peers. Kids do not cost anywhere near as much as the fear mongering libs larp about. It's the kids mother that's expensive.
>>61291278Your going to struggle to find anybody who openly admits this, even if their child turned into a criminal. Its hard wired that it is a good thing, even if from a logical standpoint they turned out to be total shit. Biology & all.What you need to ask is, was it worth waging 50 years? & even more importantly was the parent able to save the child from a lifetime of enslavement?If the answer is no, then they failed as a parent. I know I've secured my kids by making it.
>>61291348Most parents are proud of the fact that their kid is going to become a wageslave. They seem proud of the fact that they created a slave. It's honestly appalling.
>>61291278Why would I regret having children?? Because it costs money to keep them fed? They are my whole life. You'd have to be seriously mentally ill to not appreciate your own children. >T. Thankful father of three little boys
>>61291430>is proud to bring souls against their consent into a hellish 3D world just so they can die and re-incarnate back via the soul trapwhat is love?
>>61291278Nah, but I do wish before having mine that I yolo'd more. Did more travelling, weekend trips, seeing bands etc. Once you have kids a few hours away requires weeks of planning. I'd love to just pick a city in a different country, see a band, get wasted all on short notice.
>>61291278There will be regret either way. If you do, you'll regret losing the time, money, freedom, whatever. If you don't, you'll regret losing the purpose, love, family. I didn't want kids for a while, but once I realized this and thought about being old and alone, I changed my mind.
>>61291430You just answered why parents would regret it. It costs money. $300,000 to be exact. Which will only increase with time. And that's not even considering the the loss of time, freedom, and peace of mind you you get from not being single and childless.
>>61291516So you did it for purely selfish reasons. Sounds about right.
>>61291278I've literally only met boomers who act like they regret their children, or their wives / husbands.IDK wtf happened to them as children to make them the way they are, but they really are the most selfish entitled creatures to ever walk the earth.
>do you regret following the biological programming inside you that is 4.5 billion years old and around which all your cognitive programming is structured
So many reddit tier faggots on this board it's sad. Kids are the only thing that will bring you true happiness and any semblance of undertsanding of life.
>>61291579We're not all slaves to our biological programming. The birthrates are sub replacement across the globe. America is only 1.6 when 2.1 is replacement. People are choosing not to have kids anymore. Which means they are going against their programming.
>>61291430>posts picture of a man whose family was killed in a basement by Bolsheviks in the middle of the night
>>61291582Breeders always say this but then never tell you what that understanding of life is.
>>61291594It's having kids, that's it. That's the tweet.
>>61291320Why? Kids don’t cost much as long as you don’t pay someone else to raise them. There’s a reason the poor have more children than the middle class in the US. Globally they do so even more than the richest of the rich as well.>>61291572They were spoiled more than any other generation prior. Guess many of them thought they deserved better than what they got.
>>61291594the understanding of life is to cope on both sides of the coin kek.The real winners are women who get child support, kek
>>61291587No most people still have kids, provided they’re not dysgenic freaks. They just don’t have 7 anymore since half of them won’t die before the age of 5 like they would have 140 years ago.
>>61291601Sorry breeder, having kids isn't the meaning of life.
>>61291602>$300,000+ isn't much>>61291609There's a huge rise in people choosing not to have kids at all that is unprecedented in human history and is why global birthrates are plummeting. Its not just that they are having less, its that a lot are choosing none at all.
>>61291278I love my sons and don’t regret them one bit.
>>61291616>8 pbtidYou're a depressed, and likely sexless, loser. We get it.
The only way I'm having kids at this point is hoping my investments make me rich by 40 and then knocking up some gold digger from some poor latin shithole.
>>61291650I thought this board took finance seriously. I guess reddit has 4chan beat on this one. Telling people to have kids is terrible financial advice I don't care what you call me.
>>61291650hello, this is a finance board. Is it or is it not expensive to cum inside a roastie & pop a niglet?
LeanFIREd in my 30s and regret not having kids. Endless consumption gets boring fast if you're not a soulless golem. There is literally nothing to buy if you're a single male as most hobbies don't actually cost that much money. Unfortunately I can't afford both FIRE and a woman so I will probably die alone.
>>61291587Of course you can go against your programming. You're unlikely to be happy as a result. Hence enormous global misery atm.
>>61291278No
>>61291692I don't think not breeding causes depression, I think it's the other way around.
>>61291689Advice on how to leanFIRE? I'm not as old as you but am strongly considering it.
>>61291579the biological programming is the nutting in the pussy. children are the by product
>>61291278I don't regret it at all, and I want at least one more. It's the most important thing I've ever done in my life and the thing I'm proudest of.
Best thing I ever did. Not easy, but better. Sometimes the hard road is the right road. Life is fucked like that. My life would seem so empty without my kids.
>>61291818>It's the most important thing I've ever done in my lifewow. I am the complete opposite of you, my greatest achievement in my life is taking the decision to become an anti-natalist. every time i look myself in the mirror i tap my own shoulder and smile in pride of not bringing souls to this prison realm.
>>61291849cringewhy not just go a step further and remove a soul right now
My son scored the only goal in his teams tournament game on Saturday, they won 1- 0I'm so proud of him /b/ros, I think you all would be too, he's a really good, smart kid and he loves Zelda, I'm getting tears just thinking about him
>>61291881dagerously based
>>61291278It’s made me grow more as a person and as a man than anything else in my life. I’m 28 and I genuinely pity people my age and older who aren’t parents. It’s instant meaning and purpose for yourself, if you aren’t a piece of shit. That said, selfish women and weak men should not have children.
>>61291983You sound like a narcissist. I bet you're insufferable in person.
>>61291983All Im reading is me me, im better than you, look at me I came in a pussy.not special, bare min wagie
Yes I love my son. If you dont want children there is something wrong with you.
>>61292038Yeah, what he said was "If you're not amazing like ME, you should never have kids, which is like SOOO good, believe me."
>>61292046>there is something wrong with you.
What about hapas??
>>61292046The fact that you brought a soul into this hell involuntary means there's something deeply wrong with you. I guess you don't really love your son kek. Oops!
>>61291320What is the point of being wealthy if you can't pass on some of your wealth? The whole point of breeding is to pass on your DNA with the best possible mate and combine your DNA with theirs in order to produce a better version of yourselves through new offspring. It is the closest things humans have to immortality by spreading enough DNA. Only Elon seems to understand this.
>>61292053>hapasasian mixed with jew produces elliot rogers and spencer tenda.asian mixed with anything else produces regular people.
>>61292074In no way does being wealthy ever mean you need to create kids to pass it down to. Wealth can just mean financial independence, or freedom, something that is irrevocably lost by having kids.
>>61292011>>61292038I’m less selfish, make more money and live for people other than myself now. I’m more patient and contribute to my community now. Diagnosing somebody with a personalty disorder based off of a tiny comment feels like awfully strong projection. And I make more money than both of you combined kek. My kid will escape the wage slave while you grow old and bitter and empty.
Wait, why am I replying to literal incels LMAO damn i feel bad for you. No, you’re right, don’t have kids it’s a scam lol
>>61292185>>61292201Definitely struck a nerve kek. Imagine being this insecure as a father. Couldn't be me, I'm too much of an "incel" to be a father kek.
>>61291594Get off this thread. Seriously if you are child free you are basically like a virgin talking about sex. You’re still an immature kid.
>>61292185I made 520k last year, kek wagie
>>61292300>GET OFF MYYYY THREEEAADNo, now go make more slaves for the jews while I enjoy my freedom from being childless. I know that makes you seethe, cuck, but that's because you're a natural born slave.
I've secured my bloodline through sperm donations but have never raised a child myself. Does that make me a parent?
>>61291278I have a son and my wife is pregnant.I don't regret it one second, I want five more.My only regret is not starting to have children sooner. It brings meaning and fuel to my life.I don't see how I got up in the morning all those years without having them as a reason.
>>61291554>it costs $300,000 to have a childWell I must have missed the bill, because it's surprisingly inexpensive.They eat very little, second hand clothes are almost free, and clothes diapers are a one time thing.Why do you think niggers can afford to have so many children? They don't cost much.
>>61291491I believe in Christ, so no.>>61291554I want to spend time with my kids, I freely choose to have them, and it brings me peace to know i have them in my life.>>61291593Yes, because I believe that with the Holy Spirit, if we raise a Christian family, even if we're killed we will be raised again in eternity. Also st Nicholas the Tsar is awesome and based.Store up treasures in heaven and all that.
>>61291278You have around 12k ancestors, if the timeline of 300k years of humanity is to be true. 12k of your ancestors is hoping for you to continue by having children, what would it be anon? Self-destruction? or have as many children as you can afford?
>>61291881You're a good dad. Love him and encourage him.
>>61291331This. Wish I had more kids.
>>61292316Man you're pathetic. Go back to rebbit and seethe all day about "crotch spawn" or whatever disgusting term you non-reproductive come up with for children and just die off quickly so your genes and your way of thinking can die with you.You're miserable and make the world more miserable. Either work on bettering yourself and the world or disappear.You're a misery goblin.
>>61292054Weird satanic freak.
>>61292363It costs $300,000 from birth to college, you're nowhere near done yet. Also, niggers are notoriously bad with responsibility and long term planning, that's why they have lots of kids, not because its "cheap." You can choose to be like niggers, just don't include me in it.
How many children total do you want?
>>61292363Ah nice, so no investment in them. THANKS FOR MORE GOY SLAVES WHO NEVER STOOD A CHANCE
>>61292396Again, where is that fake number coming from?Schooling is tax-funded, and they won't eat $300k worth of food, I assure you.You don't need money to have children and raise them well. You just don't.You fell for jewish lies encouraging Whites to have children once they're wealthy, which won't happen until the women are older and infertile.
>>61292408>if you reproduce and don't die off, the jews win
>>61292394That sounds judgemental! That's against the bible. Don't forget, christcuck, you have to forgive me or else you'll burn in hell for eternity according to your own beliefs. I don't have to do shit.
>>61292411You just created more debt slaves for Yahweh that will resent you for creating them.
>>61292417Actually the Bible says I'm heaven bound for trusting on Jesus with all my heart buy do go off and tell me about my God.
>>61292391The only misery that will take place is the suffering that your kids will have to endure because you brought them into existence involuntarily. You're a monster.
>>61292426Your god said to forgive me 7,000 times or you will burn in hell. You're not doing a very good job of that.
>>61292432Nah he's happy, I'm happy, my wife is happy.We're a happy family. My sufferings until now were worth the meaning having children brings.You're just a misery goblin. Have sex.
>>61292435Forgive you for what you did nothing to me. Wrong on the hell part though, Bible says I'm saved because of what Jesus did for me (and you).
>>61292416I have kids, the problem is brokies on this thread thinking in 20 years its goin be great for them.unless your kids got some fucking wealth coming there way, this new fucking jew world is going to grind them up. its fucking bad out there.
>>61292439Happiness isn't guaranteed in life. What is guaranteed is suffering and dying. Which you just made sure will happen to more people by having kids.
>>61292441Hopefully one day you'll outgrow that baloney, but it doesn't look good at this rate.
>>61292451It's worth it.You'd understand if you had some meaning in your life.Go touch some grass.
>>61292446I never had any wealth coming my way, and I did just fine.Sounds like you live in a hell of your own creation.
>>61292435Christ said you must forgive your friend if they repent. Repentance necessitates sincerity. Evil is not to be forgiven, nor reasoned with. Without repentance, there is no forgiveness, not by Christ, nor the Father, nor anybody else. Another example of clueless fools perverting the teachings of the Bible while having no actual knowledge of it.
>>61292456Thank you bitter manchild, I'll consider your advise this Thanksgiving playing with my son with my dad. Lol.
>>61292463Are you fucking braindead. Same for me started from 0, but things have changed. You aren't making it anymore without rich parents or extreme luck.
>>61292468Uhh, the bible doesn't say only forgive the people who repent. It says forgive everyone, whether they repent or not.
>>61291278>>61291331This, wish I could have kids without engaging in demonic practices (surrogacy) (i am gay)Kids are so so worth it. The problem is when people have obviously terrible spouses and then have kids. If you don't do that you're golden
>>61292492You sure are getting worked up a lot about "baloney". Lol. And anons fathering children. Maybe you have some things tk forgive and let go that hurt you? You really sound like you're in a lot of pain.
>>61292481Nah it's fine. You spend too much time online.
>>61292492Luke 17:3-53 Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. 4 And if he sins against you seven times a day, and returns to you seven times, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.”Luke 23:3434 Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”Either you repent, or you are truly unaware of the sin you commit. Those are the appropriate reasons to be forgiven.Those with bad intentions (you), do not automatically receive forgiveness. Try again. I know that book front to back. However, I will not attempt to reason with you, because, as I said prior, evil is not to be forgiven, nor reasoned with. You pervert His words with blatant disregard for truth. You are no more than a devil. Your father is the father of lies.I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ.
>>61292516You are quite literally supposed to forgive evil. That's the point of forgiveness.
>>61292502You sound like someone trying hard to justify their own behavior and beliefs, because realizing you may be wrong about something would offend your ego.
>>61292525You're literally kick boxing your keyboard throughout the entire thread seething and punching the air. This is not healthy.
>>61292530To the contrary, breeders ITT are seething with rage at me for simply stating that behaving kids is immoral and bad financially. All I've been mostly doing is defending myself.
>>61292533what makes something "immoral"?
>>61292522See >>61292525
>>61292533*having kids
>>61292535Something that creates suffering.
>>61292541why is suffering bad?
>>61292547Because it makes living beings not thrive. I know you are trying to say "how do you know something is moral if you don't believe in Jesus!"
>>61292553why is 'not thriving' bad?
>>61292555Fuck off, troll.
>>61292562why is 'troll'ing bad?
>>61291278I have two daughters one is 20 months other will be born in 6 weeks. Absolutely zero regrets. Sometimes it'd be nice to get a few days alone with my wife to recharge but I'm a champion I'm in it to win it family wise.
>>61292573I'm sorry for your wallet.
>>61292535>>61292547>>61292555 (checked)>>61292567gets them every time. lmao
>>61292588OK, what makes something immoral according to a christcuck?
>>61292597God
>>61292608What is god?
>>61292613Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
>>61292625How does that determine if something is immoral?
>>61292629his will
>>61292642So we both believe suffering is bad, you just believe in christianity and I dont. How does that refute any argument I've made.
>>61292660why is suffering bad? not, 'do I believe suffering is bad'
>>61292665That's incoherent schizobabble. I'm out.
>>61292675how does 'corehency' exist?
How do you dad anons cope with loving your kids but being trapped if their mom suddenly becomes crazy? Can't divorce her and condemn the kid to a broken home, but every horror story is basically the woman going batshit.
>>61291278kids aren't for everyone, that said there seem to be far more people who regret having kids than those who regret not having kids, as regret for having kids shows up higher on the results.
>>61292716google is a jewish company, it's normal for it to discourage white people form breeding
>>61292715I've seen and heard scenario so many times now it's almost funny. There's no solution btw.
>>61292715You’ve just laid out the catch-22 of modern marriage and the central issue causing the plummeting marriage and birth rates. Divorce laws in the west give women absolute dominion over their husbands. Both parties know who holds all the cards, women particularly know.
>>61291278i have one and if i could i would make 10 more
>>61291689>There is literally nothing to buyHow about 50 years worth of food, shelter, clothes, medical care, cars,...
>>61292366>as many children as you can affordI feel that is 0 for anyone who isn't a millionaire in 2025
>>61292573>Absolutely zero regretsAre you doing millionaire or have you made peace with poverty?
>>61292613>lowercase gHow edgy of you…
I think you're all niggers and hope le AI singularity does away with this nigger monkey race of pussy worshipping niggers
>>61291278if my children knows have to earn usdc from houdini then no regret
OP here, have been married for 6 years and have not succeeded at having children. 4 miscarriages and an extra uteral pregnancy which had to be terminated.Over time you start asking yourself very deep questions about life and If you even really want it. It shifts wildly on a regular basis.Mainly afraid if I can even afford to have them and on the other hand faced with morality
I've very close to making this decision. Should I marry my loving gf within the next 2 years and start having kids? Or should I keep my options open while enjoying the early retirement that I recently set up for myself?
>>61291278They dont cost that much like the other anons are saying. I have a 9 figure portfolio though so I find any expense that goes towards my daughter to be truly negligible. Other anons are also entirely right that it is the mother that's expensive. She bitches and complains and invents expenses, but at least they revolve around our daughter. This includes a nanny that I pay 35$ per hour for and my wife still finds a way to be generally unpleasant and overall bitchy. But has been getting better. However my daughter is lovely, 10/10 perfect creature, I am glad she exists.
>>61291331>It's the kids mother that's expensivethis man speaks the truth
>>61292396>It costs $300,000 from birth to collegeOh wow, all of your ancestors must have spent alot of money in the darkages to birth their 23 children. Sure 10 died before adulthood, but that's still 13 expensive kids. Hmm. 13 x $300,000k = $3.9 Million But that's assuming they went to Alchemy™ College. It probably cost around $100,000k for the parents (assuming one wife) So roughly $4.1 Million in darkage money. Lets a account for time/gold/inflation/deflation.... WOW. It cost 14.67 TRILLION to raise 10kids back then!Wow so we're all descendants of ELITE UPPERCLASS huh? Neat.Everyone with kids today is just flexing their wealth on you poorfag. I guess it's like having a lambo, you're just to poor to understand. Weird.
>son is a literal retard>"I dont regret it"You'll never get a real answer from these jerkoffs
>>61293067>dude just HOARDKek what are you, an otter?
>>61291491>is proud to bring souls against their consent into a hellish 3D worldNow this is reddit
>>61293395Most parents espouse an extreme form of sunk cost fallacy. They will never admit that they were complicit in bringing another suffering soul into the world and will instead double down, gaslight, and lie to everyone, including themselves about how good it is.
>>61291587>We're not all slaves to our biological programming.Preach it, xister!
>>61291604kek that's what I've come to realize. Life is just one big cope. If you find good strategies for coping well, life is easier to deal with. everyone thinks their way of living is the best. That's just another cope.
>>61291983you can contribute to the world without having children and this gives a lot of meaning and purpose to people who can't or don't want children. There are people who have empathy for the world or other people, not only for their blood. Why do people who have children always think non parents are living a pure selfish life? They could be doctors saving lives somewhere across the world, or educating people. Or is that not good enough? Many ways people can derive purpose and it's not always through children. some people just know they won't make good parents so they decide to help the world instead in a different way.
>>61291278>having a kid just so they can go to school for 20 years and wage for the next 30
>>61294102Seeing that it's a cope and being uppity about it is also a cope.
sure smells like tiny hats in this thread
>>61294172We cope to live, or do we live to cope?
>wow you must be a redditor funkpop consumer>PLEASE BREEDVery funny how they blatantly beg you to introduce more people for them and their kin to abuse
>>61294172i'm not being uppity about diddley. obviously I'm coping too.
Not my problem
>>61291278No regrets. They haven't affected my wealth much at all. We buy more groceries and things wear out faster I guess. I still have enough cash to race cars and shoot guns, a bit less time for that stuff is all. Really, it's the opposite as I consider my children to be a part of my wealth. We do hit max out of pocket with health insurance when a new one is born so that costs $5k but considering that's about twice what a decent purebred puppy costs I think that's pretty fair. They're tons of fun and super cute. Lots of work too of course but everything worth doing is lots of work. Nothing beats taking my eldest out inna woods to teach him tracking and counter tracking or when my 2yo points to the little helmet in a hot wheels toy and yells DADDY!
>>61292339it makes you a deadbeat
>>61292366>12k of your ancestors is hoping for you to continue12k of my ancestors aren't hoping for shit because they're all fucking dead because their proxy bid for immortality didn't pay off. Hmm let me go do the same thing that didn't work the last 12000 times it was attempted but I'm sure it'll work for me somehow and I'll stay alive forever through a procession of descendents with an exponentially vanishing small amount of my dna in them. Eternal life here I come!
>>61291278Having kids is one of the best things I have done. I love it. Maybe its better for me because I got a submissive wife and I am not an oofy doofy.
>>61291278I love my kids and I dont regret a thing.Having children really turns you into a man. You have humans who depend on you. You cant let them down.
No I unironically want to spend the rest of my life making beats in my room and DJing. I care deeply about music and I have ideas about music that I want to get out into the world no matter the cost. I just want to get rich so I make music all day and not worry about making things that will sell well
>>6129453712,000 ancestors & we ended up as Twinks. Shalom.
>>61291331>It's the kids mother that's expensive.so we should be faggots with artificial wombsgood plan
>>61294690So it's a crutch. And when your niglets die you're back to being a loser.
I have 2 daughters.I'm married.I hate being married and being a father. Reading this thread makes me really question how can so much men here likes being a father. How come they enjoy not having time, putting up with kid's bullshit all the time, on alert 24h.The one that say that kids dont cost nothing are LYING. Bunch of fucking liers.I regret every minute of my life, i try to get out of work as late as i can so i can interact little with the 2 shitheads and the "wife", a fuckig useless SAHM that cant get a job because her carreer sucked and we dont have sex.
>>61291278
>>61291278I don't regret it, but my wife and I aren't deadbeats.I know people whose kids are messed up because daddy was a man child stuck in the 90s, and mom wasn't loyal enough not to cheat. Either way, those kids got raised by uncles aunts and grandparents.
>>61292500You're already doing demon shit in your asshole faggot. Stop watching porn. It'll clear up.
>>61295291Have you tried not being an oofy doofy?
>>61295291>daughtersOof!2 sons here, love em. I teach them about God, finance, and guns. It’s a joy and knowing they’re going to become based Chads and continue my lineage warms my heart. One of em is already on his way to 6’ status at 13 (I’m 5’10 and their mom is 5’8)
>>61295291My N+2 told me he was the only one working in the office during covid because he didn't want to spend time at home stuck with his wife and children.
>>61292522>forgive evil lol no. You are to forgive people of their evil actions because you are supposed to understand evil is a sickness that we are compelled to and that we all commit in some capacity, but not something innate to our true nature. Evil itself is privation of God and should be stamped out. If evil has fully taken hold of someone they can be punished and even condemned to death but we pray for their souls and do not harbor grudges against them for their actions are a result of something that is beyond the material and out of any one person’s control
>>61291278Yes. There’s an almost tangible void where my little boy should be. I miss him dearly.
>>61291331>The kids mother thats expensive And not just monetary, mentally expensive
>>61295291I think that's the result of a defective personality on your part.
>>61292306No you didn't. You have a portfolio currently worth 500k of likely mostly illiquid shitcoins which you havent sold and won't sell out of greed. You will watch as it disappears back to five figures and nothing in your life will have changed.
>>61292715Broken homes being damaging is wildly overstated. We basically begged my parents to split as they were constantly viciously arguing every night. Life got incredibly better when they split and lived separately.
How come people who claim to have happy marriages and kids on the internet always go out of their way to be judgemental and cruel to people who don't have that? is it cope or what? i wouldn't expect someone with a fully actualized and satisfying life to go out of their way to make others feel bad.
Toxoplasmosis sounds bad until you hear the stockholm syndrome coming off people who had kids.
>>61297095Under what you describe far more often in the childless posters on this site than the parents.
>>61293395This is a fear of mine. I do not want a literal retard for a child.>>61297263Kek. Especially the ones thst claim to love them so much and then drop them off on grandparents, neighbors all the time because "I need my me time!"
>>61292716redditor cucks dont want kids? imagine my shock.
>>61293303I’m sending a prayer for you, rough go that. I sincerely hope you are successful in having a child, good luck, good health and keep your chin up.
>>61292339Your sperm will go to some lesbian couples and schizo femcels. It is very unlikely you will have grandchildren. You basically nutted into the toilet anon. There's a reason sex is involved in all of this, so we could have sexual selection.>>61292402At least 3>>61296932I wish my mom would have divorced my deadbeat animal of a father. I was effectively fatherless my entire life. He always ignored us and never even greeted us. At least a step father MIGHT have treated me nice and be an actual father figure.
Have kids. Just do it. Dont over think it. There are negatives. Everything in life has negatives. The positives in this case will for outweigh them. I can guarantee it. You will have the kids and you will be happy, anon. T. Father of 3 absolutely perfect children.
>>61296207>religionKek the real low value (probably brown) males showed up.>>61298672>i promise you that this pretty specific thing will work for you no matter what your personality and life situation is. We don’t need to think about itThe real redpill is that parents can be low iq too
>>61291881Based little dude
>>61291278No matter where you live, low-/middle class is creating serfs/cannon fodder to be exploited by companies, landlords, government, military,... This is an observable fact throughout human history. Do you think your kids will be the minority lucky ones ? Even if, they will end up exploiting the unfortunate majority... You cant really win in this vicious cycle of dog eats dog world. You can just decide to spare this harsh reality for your future kids by not procreating, thats the only guaranteed way your kid doesnt end up squeezed by a landlord whom he pays off his house-credit loan. I for one do not want this, i dont want my children to be taken advantage in this world.
>>612924023 mininum but it's unlikely since I'm ugly, a shutin, and a neet. I still get shown interest by attractive women despite that, it's surprising.
Guarantee 95% of parents in this thread have fucked up their kids somehow, but are so blind to it, all they can see is 'kids best thing ever' - why dont you ask your kids what they think?
Do you know that the etymology of the word family is servants or slaves?
>>61291278No. I’m frankly too selfish to have a kid but also a complete overthinker who would probably end up fucking them up in some way despite all my best efforts to avoid that outcome. Also I’d be terrified of them being raped/murdered or sent off to die in WW3. And even if they avoid all of that, the financial future is bleak as fuck and they’ll only ever enjoy a lifetime of debt. I don’t think it’s right to bring someone into the world when it the future is so fucking bleak and society is a tinderbox ready to explode
protip: every single anon who is motivated enough to post some variation of "no regrets" itt is cope postingevery single one
>>61299138Not really true. Familia meant household. As in family and their slaves. Famulus is house servants. Servus is servant. Verna is a child servant born in the households or domus. Owned by the family and namely the paterfamilias.The context is important. Family, was used in context to the holdings of that man’s family name. Kinda of like keeping up with the joneses. The implication of keeping up with the household, including hired help, property and their social equity. Is the Jones family. Points for trying.
>>61299253It could be a woman’s name. But the family name. **Unintentionally hating on boob holders. Sorry
>>61299228Everyone is coping about something. Some people without kids will cope that it was the best choice just like some people with kids will cope that it didn’t ruin their lives.
>>61299253>AI word pukePure copeAre you an incel? Because it means you're too ugly to even be a slave
>i work hard for my childrenBecause you're a slaveDon't procreate unless you're rich and able to provide trust fund for your kids
>>61298672Wildly bad advice, I have kids and always wanted them but they aren't good for everyone. They're insanely hard work and do basically stop your free life. I hadn't quite realized before having them that I wouldn't sleep more than 3 hours in a row for 4 years or that my wife and I would need weeks of planning to go out for a dinner together. If we wanted to go join friends for a party/go see a band etc it was hundreds of dollars getting parents to come and stay, preparing milk for a week etc.I think if you know you want kids have them but there's no evidence they make people universally happy. People who want kids are unhappy if they never manage and people who don't want kids are unhappy with them. It's each to their own.
>>61296601I'm normal, i'm just not a cuck, i'm the protagonist of my life, i don't want to sacrifice the only life i have for ungrateful shitheads.You're just a christcuck
>>61299228Father here, just posted about having 2 daughters.Yea, they all are.
>>61299394Not him but I have a pretty good routine with my wife. We take turns basically, she goes off to her women's bible study group most Thursday evenings and sometimes another evening she'll go out for tea or dinner or something with a couple mom friends. I spend a weekend inna woods or racing about once a month and have my own men's group where we smoke cigars every other week. We go to a parties fairly often but it's the whole family as most of our friends are also millenials with little chudlings. We go on an adventure just as a family fairly often as well but it is usually $100+ if we eat at a sitdown restaurant. The only thing that's tough to get to happen is a nice date with just me and my wife as that does require a babysitter. We'll stick them with my parents or her brother's family for the evening but it does require planning a month+ out so it only happens a few times a year. Sleep can certainly be an issue while you have any under 2 but that's a relatively brief period in a lifetime and you'll miss it when they're all big.I think it can be really tough on people who don't have external support networks or outlets for socializing outside of their immediate family. With how atomized people are these days it can be a real problem. If you don't put effort into maintaining relationships with your friends it's easy to just drop off the world. Probably would go a little crazy if you never spoke to regular adults.
Not sure if there is anything more cynical and depressing than regretting your own kids, especially when it's so easy to just not have them these days
>>61300514>insisting he isn't a cuck and is a "protagonist">while bitching about having a wife and kids and how he has to structure his entire life around avoiding themyou're straight-up retarded my man
>>61295291That's sad man. I thought the never having sex and resenting your family was a boomer thing. The ol' ball and chain amirite ha ha ha! Never really understood the mentality. I sex my wife almost every night except when she's on her period. I quite like being around my family, I work fully remote so I get to be with them all the time. If they get the crazies in the late afternoon I just shut the door to my office. Sometimes when the kids are occupied I even get to sneak a sex in the middle of the day. Maybe go to marriage counseling or something idk man, you can't let things rest the way they are, the resentment is only going to continue to build.
I kicked my kids out when they reached 18 of age, its kinda funny seeing them struggle but I aint giving them shit. Reverse mortgaged my home and once I hit 50 Im going on cruises and gambling in casinos
>>61298744>religion is… le brown!My Orthodox Christian church is full of successful white people with 4, 5, 6+ kids who are doing very well in life. The typical non religious person is a Rick and Morty watching pothead mutt or a soulless liberal whore with no family and a spiritually dead life. Not sure why you’d want that to represent “white” people, if that was true there’d be about 1 generation until none of them were left. Thankfully we’re upholding the race through Christ’s love for our people.
>>61300767Catholic gang reporting in. When we go to parties sometimes it can be hard to spot our own kids in the sea of little blue eyed toeheads.
>>61300767Look at this cope. The average non-religious person is a European that doesn't worship a jew. The average christcuck is a retarded hick that worships nigger and jews so he can virtue signal among his low-IQ peers. Christianity is the number one cause of anti-white policies because it believes that all races are equal.
>>61291331This, I have 2, the kids are a handfull sure, but the taxing bullshit is from the mother. Without the kids my life would be utter shit and I would likely kys.
>>61291668It's better to wage slave harder more time than having kids and painting with them or picking mushrooms with them?
>>61300582My wife and I just had our first one and can see what you mean about disappearing... we both have big social circles but its always been an effort to catch up with people, introverted etc... now with the kid it is just an extra level of hard and I just cbf even replying half the time now... will have to make more of an effort I guess or youre right in a year we will be forgotten about
>>61301061So true! Ever since Europe became Godless and atheist it has become far more pro-whi- oh wait, the UK and France are barely 70% white and infested with brown rape gangs and do nothing while their white kids get gangraped. Lol. LmaoI won’t disagree that Protestant American troons are buck broken by kikes, they’re freemasonic heretics by definition thoughever and about as “Christian” as Mormons.
>>61301526I hope you don’t think a few cherrypicked /pol/ webms actually represent a large chunk of the second largest denomination.
>>61301548Protestantism in America in particular is completely fucked, simple fact. Perhaps it’s held up better in other countries, but at the end of the day it’s a “religion” that prides itself on having no clear structure authority or institution, which is why it’s full of homosexual pastors, women pastors, pro-trannies, pro-Israel, active circumcision, and other various delusions. They are very easily molded
>>61297323>because "I need my me time!"fucking kek
>>61291278The only people who spew anti-natalist propaganda are immature liberals who don't want the responsibility of raising children.
>>61303560You think parents are responsible? Lol. I bet you're a dad who doesn't understand why his children resent him and still think you are more "responsible" than antinatalists.
>>61303643>projecting this hardHow will dads ever recover?
>>61303650I'm literally not a father. Nice try though.
>>61303560>who don't want the responsibility of raising children.Good. We have too many deadbeat parents.
>>61291278no my white trash trailer scum parents shit me out into this world with no regard for the fact that i would have to exist as a mangled retard for 70 years being a goyslave tax and rent battery working 40 hours a week to own nothing im not going to subject another conscious being to this experience that would be cruel
Don't know how I'd be able to raise kids even if I wanted to.Toxic family means I live far away and would get no help from them. I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world and haven't bought a house yet, and even if I did it would require 2 incomes to service the mortgage. I have a gf (non-white) so either I'd have non-white kids or have to find a white gf (impossible today).>wtf why are birth rates falling?!
>>61291881holy fucking based
>>61291331This. But hey, she kinda earned it, ngl. Love my daughter
>>61292500Glad you recognize that stealing a baby away from their mother is demonic. Praying for my soul, and yours if you'd like.
>>61300767>>61301526>>61301569Holy fucking shit I hate stupid anal shit cock sucking orthodox larping mutts so fucking bad. I swear to god I saw none of these faggots 10 years ago. It's like they hopped on the bandwagon because orthodox christianity is le super ebin trad and shiet and is saving muh white race or something. You are literally regressing by decades. Wake the fuck up you retarded nigger ape>t. Eastern eurofag where every zoomer is 99% atheist
>>61299228How is this helpful in the conversation ?You just admit you already have an giga bias to openly discuss, why even be that hostile ? Do you have kids yourself ?I’ll add mine to the hat : I have one kid, love her, would not want another one. My goal was to be a parent, I reached it. I am learning how to love, how to care, how to do things with no expectations. It 100% made me a more compassionate human being, especially towards other parents. including my own. It’s hard, guys, so yeah, some kids are raised on ipads. Hey, I wouldn’t, but I get it. But yeah, the biggest hurdle is time. No one can raise kids like you, and grandparents have their own agenda, nannies have their own agendas, even me. So better me than someone else “educating” my kid. So it’s time consuming. One and done. Brothers, sisters, cousins and so on are overrated anyway. I bonded more with friends than with people I shared DNA with.
>>61292365Christ is King.
>>61304558Allah is king though
>>61304632bait
>>61291348Richest dude I know had an alcohol dad that died at 16. Most rich kids I know are faggots. Always surprises me how you rich fags never see that, even when your son is a worse than a nigger.
I don't regret itI want more
One of the best decisions of my life. I was reluctant at first, but can't imagine life any other way.
>>61304506>>61305054>>61306389I'm honestly amazed at how 4chan's business and finance board can be so ignorant and bad with money that they CHOOSE bad financial decisions like having kids. Kids are one of THE MOST EXPENSIVE things you pay for in life, and having kids requires that you pay money to attract and keep AN EXPENSIVE WIFE until you die. It doesn't surprise me anymore why this board is constantly complaining about how poor they are when they are shitting out multiple kids, spending money on "the wife", and gambling on crypto. You're all retarded and deserve to be poor.
>>61306511This absolute turdbrained materialistic nigger. Kids are THE POINT. You're building an overall legacy and nothing is more existential than your progeny. And if they're "so expensive" that they bury you that's a skill issue. Thank God people like you are voluntarily getting eliminated from the gene pool fr.
>>61306526You are proof that breeders are narcissistic psychopaths who only Carr about muh genes and muh legacy. No one will remember you in 100 years even with kids.
>>61306541Ok, so kill yourself. Why are you alive? You were a kid. If life is so horrible kill yourself and prove your point. You won't, because you're a two faced faggot selfish coward. You want to live a life of excess and self indulgence. Raising kids is tough but rewarding. You don't want the tough. It only became a choice recently and only those really cut out for it are making it. You're not one of them you dumb little gremlin. Enjoy rotting away alone.
>>61305052seething much? Hows the 9-5 going? just 50 more years! ACKKK
here come all the liars kek
>>61306560Do you even listen to yourself? You are insane psychopath. Not everyone wants to be a parent and that's a good thing because a lot of them would act like you. Some people just want peace. I would hate to be your child.
>>61306576The reality is both sides seethe and lie. Sean Last had a breakdown that basically showed kids have no significant impact on lifetime happiness with the assumption that most people who want kids have them and most who don't don't. We should let people pick and deport and gas, in that order, all browns and blacks so we don't need to compete in a reproductive arms race with them.
>>61306560I agree with this post a lot more than your first. I'm 35, recently married and considering kids despite the expense/effort. Not because of muh legacy. That's some ego stroking bullshit. But at this stage of my life, I'm all about the "tough but rewarding." If I can raise my kids right and make sure they have a good life, and I can watch them grow up in my twilight years, it will be worth it.
>>61306615Don't have kids if you want to be wealthy. For some reason 4chan's business and finance board isn't serious about being wealthy.
>>61306590>Oh no me, the person who hates kids and chastises people for having them, is NOT the psychopath>it's the guy who wants to do the thing that all humans ever have done that is the psychopath>us sound of mind individuals merely want the extermination of the human race and life on earth>>61306615legacy doesn't hold negative connotations, we're talking about spiritual/physical being and the continuation of a chain of existence that spans billions of years. I'm not particularly religious but if there is a creator he is going to be most upset with those who selfishly decided to end that in the pursuit of temporary pleasure and sloth.
>>61306625You're the one telling people who don't want kids to kill themselves. I'm sure the creator would love that. You're coping massively.
>>61306526>eliminated from the gene poolHoly faggot retard
>>61306625>continuation of a chain of existence that spans billions of yearsI do think about this sometimes. I'll admit that's a contributing factor to wanting kids. But I do this that this is also an ego thing. "My ancestors were able to continue the lineage for billions of years. If I can't, does that make me a failure?" So ultimately it's a pride thing. If you want to bring religion and spirituality into it, that's a totally different can of worms.>>61306624Having kids can be one of the most rewarding experiences you can have in life, along with finding a loving partner. To deny yourself that solely because it costs money is backward thinking. By that logic you should also live in a cardboard box and eat rice and beans everyday so you can stack and save even more. What's the point.Obviously kids won't appeal to everyone. But to those who it does appeal to, the money and effort is well worth it.
Two days later and this thread is still full of people trying to abuse you into creating more people for them to abuse. Classic.
>>61306666It is the = of marrying their bags basically, kek.
I don't even mean this trivially. If you're a thinking person, having your own kids is the closest you come to God. You create another being out of nothing. It's a blend of yourself and another. You get to witness consciousness slowly form in a small child and see pieces of yourself at their most pure and undistilled. It makes you reconsider who and how you are and how you can be better so that they can be too. It is the final stage of life maturity and realization. If you don't do it you will just stay a maladjusted Peter Pan that thinks this whole thing is a timewaste. If you don't realize how crazy it is that is on you. In some ways it's healthy that humans are going through this event right now, for the first time probably ever people can just choose not to reproduce. This means only those that truly care and want it are doing so and that the forthcoming generations are going to inherit those traits. It will make for a better population ultimately. Only the weakest minds succumb to Mouse Utopia.
>>61306658>Having kids can be one of the most rewarding experiences you can have in life, along with finding a loving partner. To deny yourself that solely because it costs money is backward thinking. By that logic you should also live in a cardboard box and eat rice and beans everyday so you can stack and save even more. What's the point.If the point if to get rich, then having kids is not a good idea. Not sure what your having trouble understanding there. Everything else is cope, morals don't matter in this maths equation. You are posting on biz
>>61306658>What's the pointFor those of us that value financial freedom, that is the ultimate point. Parents would rather be less wealthy because they want kids. That's because they value financial independence less than me.
>>61306681>some shit about God to justify creating new wage slavesHave kids if you are rich, for God sake why are we supporting bringing Kids into poverty only to have their ass blasted in the West by Ni*** & such.This board is fully of reddit tier cope I swear.
>>61306689If the point is to get rich, then spending more on delicious food is not a good idea.If the point is to get rich, then going on vacation is not a good idea.If the point is to get rich, then having a partner is not a good idea.You should only work as much as possible, stack money, compound interest, forever until you die.That's the conclusion of your way of thinking.
>>61306644You aren't being consistent at all. If life is great why wouldn't I want to create more of it? If it's so terrible that life should cease why don't you cease your own? You're a duplicitous, inconsistent little faggot and need to go back. You just want all of your money, time, and toys, that's fine, just stop pretending like it's some kind of higher calling because it's clearly selfish indulgence.
>>61306725Nah, I am Rich, I do all those things. You don't get it because you are poor.Read up wealth generation then come back poor fag.
>>61306707Only the incredibly historically illiterate could pretend like these are remarkably dire times lol. Grow the fuck up. They've made it so easy to own a house car and cell phone that braindead niggers are doing it. We don't just give up because some things are hard and need to be adapted to and navigated. But again at the end of the day if that's too much for you GO AHEAD AND DON'T BREED YOU WEAK GENE'D LITTLE BITCH
>>61306681Nah, birthrates are collapsing because we live in a dystopia. Its not hard. You just want to breed because it makes you feel superior. Meanwhile, your kids are the ones that are going to suffer. I hope you're happy.
>>61306728Keep making tax cattle for me and my kids goyim
>>61306725That's exactly my plan.
>>61306736Then explain how the expense of having children is categorically different from the expense of your hedonistic pleasures that you spend money on.
>>61306744Not a dystopia, a utopia. Only the softest richest faggots don't have kids. Once a country becomes soft and rich the fertility rate plummets. It's Mouse Utopia and you're living in it. A gay, selfish, soft little bitch that wants to spend on himself and laze about until he dies. You don't know what suffering is that's the entire problem. You stub your toe and it ruins your week. Can't get enough goyslop and goymunch and you feel lacking.
>>61306760Enough with the projection are your kids feminine catty faggots like you
>>61306754If u read my previous posts, u will see I have kids. But I wouldn't of made any without being rich first. I just cannot fathom bringing children into poverty. Like, do you not understand you are creating poor ass kids who are going to end up on biz trying to make it off fart coin 4000 when they are 30?The future is very very bleak for poor people for the next decade at least.
>>61306760You crack me up. PLEASE breed more so can be even poorer. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."-Napoleon.
>>61306765You need that to be true or else the words hurt right>>61306775I don't want you to breed your genes are defective trash. You'd create more hedonistic soft little fagbabes that probably vote for Kamala Harris.
>>61306760This is the same brain rot as BBC porn addiction. Rich kids do not become faggots, there are poor fags (yourself) and rich fags. There are fags for reasons beyond "money"
>>61306785>I don't want you to breed your genes are defective trash. You'd create more hedonistic soft little fagbabes that probably vote for Kamala Harris.Do you mean you want to breed more poor worker drones? kek, you are really cracking up the board.
>>61306785>breed more for Zion donHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>61306789>>61306795You are rich and don't realize it is the entire problem. You have endless toys and leisure time. That's rich. And you decide to just call it right there. People who actually work and strive and have known want and needs are different. Driven, motivated, not fearful of parenthood. Feels like destiny actually. You simply don't have the same ethic.
>>61306769Alright. No I didn't read your posts, I assumed you were anti-natalist like the other guy.So you think having kids is worth it as long as you can ensure they are financially well off. I can agree with that.It's nearly impossible to plan much farther than one generation, though. Unless you are in the top .01% of wealth and very lucky, your descendants will eventually have to work.
>>61291616The meaning of life is having kids who have kids of their own. However I don't think a life of meaning is for everyone. I'm actually glad fewer people are reproducing but the issue I have is that smart people who should reproduce are not while stupid people are growing like weeds. This is why I think we need mandatory abortions for the poor.
>>61306864The current meta is bimodal. Smarties/dummies are having kids, and midwits are not. The eventual class schism will be iPad kids vs non iPad kids.
>>61306804You can be rich and not waste time/money on toys right?The only desire had to be rich was to ensure my time was my time & not given to filing in TPS reports/useless waging for the Jewish state.I intend my children to be able to at least study what they wish, of course you don't wanna shower them with toys/gifts, all that crap is defo true. But honestly in 2025 like right now, the fate of poor kids growing up is going to be shocking for them. Once they hit 18 & earning peanuts completely unable to climb out to any type of independance.I really think parents today are thinking though the lenses of themselves growing up in early 2000's 1990's, only 08 was actually bad & even that was not long lasting. Today we now have a long lasting inescapable wealth gap growing year on year. It will only get worse for some, better for a small few (rich). You need imo at least $2,000,000 by the time you're 30 to reliably secure kids. My experience.
>>61306884>>61306864to cont. on that, from the studies I've seen, it's now common for the poor to have kids earlier, but to cut it short and have a smaller family. Think 1-2 accident children and then they get fixed. Then smarter/richer people start later in their 20's but have bigger families. The "big poor" family is done as a concept as the poor get quickly tired of child rearing and don't see it as a higher calling.
>>61306864>This is why I think we need mandatory abortions for the poor.Based kek
>average antinatalist: I wont have kids but its fine if others do>average natalist: IM GOING TO HAVE A FUCKING LEGACY IM GOING TO BE SO FUCKING BASED FUCK YOU ANTINATALIST FAGGOT KILL YOURSELF I WILL LIVE FOREVER IN MY KIDS CRUST IS KANG CRUST IS KANG WHY ARE YOU OBSESSEDAlright that about wraps it up
>>61306945Literally no one was posting like your first "example"cope and seethe antinatalist bugman
>>61306962alright lil bro
>>61306897Bait posts aren't 'based'
>>61306945Breeders are unhinged psychopaths. Look at the breeders you know and you will see it in their behavior. They are just waiting to snap at antinatalists.
>>61307032Antinatalism is a mental disorder. Thankfully, God Almighty has created a very elegant way to get them to stop passing on their damaged genes.
>>61307082Another christcuck psychopath. You people are too predictable.
>>61307096I'm thankful that God has made you an antinatalist. Youre removing yourself from the gene pool, but have convinced yourself that it's your idea. Literally deranged thinking, but I'm grateful for you and I'll pray for you.
>>61293386/thread
>>61307005kek
>>61307114>god made me an antinatalist>pray to god to get me to changeThe smartest christian. Keep praying to a jewish storm god kek.
>>61291278Hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt because I had a kid; totally worth it if he does his part to keep the White race marching forward to the stars.
>>61295225A wise man once said "Women - can't live with 'em; not goin' gay"
>>61291430what are the political implications of me looking like picrel?
>>61306760I thought you wanted to pass on your genes? That shit is not selfish?
>>61292396Chill Rabbi
>>61291320this. I'm 29 and pretty happy being financially free, alone. If you asked me at 18 before waging then I'd say all I wanted was sex with a cute girl and to become a dad. Now sex lost its novelty and I became traumatized wave slaving year after year while seeing bills only get more fucked from this economy. So, at this point I rather live a simple quiet life. No kids, no wife, just my friends and brothers when feeling social and porn to quickly get the lust monkey off my back.
this whole thread and i cant believe i am on /biz/only a handful of actual intelligent /biz/raelis repliesare there seriously retards out there that dont think having a kid while being poor right now or recently is going to lead to terrible outcomes for the kid in the future economyDid you retards seriously became the boomers and will tell these kids pull yourself up by your bootstraps, i at least hope you got enough house to keep these kids out of the rental exploitation plantationalso second question what the fuck are you doing on /biz/ being poor and having had kids already that kinda closes the door on that right there
>>61291278I don't want my kids to have a wageslave father, so until I'm out or close to it, I don't want them. If I don't make it, I'm saving my potential offspring from the same fate. I got very close to making it one point a couple years, but my life was destroyed shortly after. I'm 30 now, I'd settle for a high paying white collar job or career instead desu. At least that way I could still set them up for life.
>>61291516>old and aloneBro, your kids would suffocate you with a pillow so they finally get that inheritance
>>61291331how to become single dad
>>61310462There is alot of new fags, but also alot of cope out there right now. You will notice in this thread those really pushing HAVE KIDS NO MATTERZ WHATT are the poor fags. They have to commit to their decisions so no choice but cope. Having them when your a bit richer is far better since money buys u time. Time with your kids, time with your wife to suck your dick. WAGIEEE COPE off the charts here
>>61310590>They have to commit to their decisions so no choice but copeyeah i get that part, but then the second question comes to mindwhat are these people doing on /biz/, how did they end up here whats their goal for being here and why botherwe never reached mania normie attention phase this run around so it cant be that
this thread was actually a white pill to me>t. 26 yo who found out he's gonna be a dad last tuesday
>>61310851Congrats. My first child, he’s a boy, is due any day now, quite excited.
>>61292365Just passing by this thread to tell you and anyone who hasn't a nigger brain that Nicolas was a fucking retard who wasa getting murdered one way or another if not by the bolcheviks by someone else because of how much of a zigger retard he was.
God loves me so I actually enjoy living. I'm glad my parents got me and I'll do my own part by giving life to my children.Being a father tought me that childless people can not be considered adults. Even without focussing on the love and meaning you get from children the secondary effects male the difference. Starting from the birth itself. The first raw and real event I experienced in decades. Then later the constant pressure to multitask, take responsibility, recognize their needs, put up boundaries, teach them skills grows you as a person by forcing you to act strategically, confident, loving. You need to manage your resources and all with too little time and too little sleep.Parents know that even a high-skilled, stressful managing job pales in comparison. This is also why some husbands become workoholics. They run away from their parental responsibilities because it is too much.child-free """adults""" know nothing and their opinions are irrelevant. All parents know this. We don't usually tell you because you are like children yourself and we hope for your sake that you can keep your delusion alive and never have to face the reality of your retarded decision.
>>61312304Weak bait Ranjeet.
Did threads about having (affording) kids even exist 15 years ago?
>>61312360We were all 20 at best 15 years ago.
>>61306511just put the kids and wife to work you dumb fag.If your children aren't growing abalones in your attic while your wife trades lean hog futures, you have failed as a man.
>>61291278I have 4 kids.One of the few things in my life I don't regret.>did bad in HS>joined USMC>Iraq>got out went to OSU>got a stupid degree>married a hot crazy stupid bitch>had 4 kids in 6 years>got lucky with a really good job>still married>work all the time>wife is a stupid bitch>kids think the sun shines out my ass, they're my best friends
