Some hopium: the pullback looks corrective, so expecting a higher high is reasonable, and it is extremely likely the bottom is in.
>>61322926Bitcoin is over
>>61322942How so?
Not over until I see suicides from spot buy and holders.
>>61322977Suicides already happened. Everyone’s dead
>>61322977Kek, maybe at the absolute bottom next yer
>>61322926the chance of a higher high is exactly why I think it's going to form a big fat bull trap. a good exit opportunity too. I think this market has fucking had it. AI bubble, everything bubble, whatever bubble, it's game over man.
>>61322970because its worthless shit and always has been
>>61322977no mania of new entrants buying the top with too much at risk this time aroundeveryone left here now already know the game so no suiciding posting
>>61323150No mania at 100k means it will happen at a higher price. Which is bullish.
>>61323188well eventually of course yesbut as to it happening soon, kinda depends on how hard the ai bubble is crashing right nowif that goes its gonna get very spicy
>>61322926>Elliot waveMeds now.
>>61323325No
>>61322942>>61323140cope
>>61322926holy shit just stop already. god damn, this is getting pathetic
>>61322926Nothing about this implies a higher high
>>61323793The pullback has a corrective nature instead of impulsive and therefore I believe there is a high chance the top is not in yet. But if you dismiss elliot waves, then you are right yes.
>>61323834I just see a lower low being put in it which further establishes the validity of the down trend. It could go up 10% from here and it wouldn't even reverse the trend. It would just be a higher low
>>61323120It's going to be a bull trap because so many people are thinking they'll either sell at 126k or frontrun and sell at 115k. Pumps to 109k for a fakeout and then fucking dies.
>>61323864This is a corrective pullback on a higher timeframe though. The overall trend is still up, although it doesn't look that good admittedly.
>>61322926I'm definitely bullish because low T faggots on reddit are jerking themselves off about how the "virgin incel chud money is failing". This much celebration over 95k got the same reactions 16k did several years back, feels like the same atmosphere + very little retail attention.
Bullish dumping, kek.
>>61322970It only exists to suppress and keep eyes off of Chainlink.
>>61322926>and it is extremely likely the bottom is in.If I had a dollar for every time someone said this and the bottom was definitely not in, I would be a millionaire.
>>61324228These:>lower low>lower high>lower low>lower high>lower loware extremely bullish. Clearly a bullrun
>>61322977This suicide metric no longer holds. There were zero suicide hotline posts during the 2022 low. I saw no suicide mania or wall of pink on biz. Stop pedaling this lie.
Linear regression is fucking retarded. You might as well read tarot cards.
>>61325357and even add to this, 2022 wasnt just a crypto crash like 2018 and everything else being finethis was a total crash of tradfi, an inflation storm and a war causing an energy crisis at the same timethe amount of 2008 gfc incoming in 2 more weeks that has been peddled on a lot of financial (social)media for the past 3.5 years is insane
>>61322926It could still, conceivably, go down to 85…or even 70 in a more extreme scenario. If we have a natural bottoming and it’s coupled with a shakeout, it could exaggerate this down move. But on the main, I agree with what you’re saying. I think the entire crypto space is about to rally hard.
>>61325345zoom out, if we make a new low now we are still making higher highs and higher lows on the weekly timeframe this bullrun
>>61325373I didn't use linear regression
>>61325345I guess the bullrun was over during this period as well then
>>61325449
>>61323120>its game over Lmfao. It’s never game over. There’s just a change incoming. And that change is going to significantly benefit crypto. I see a massive rally coming, with some coins benefiting more than others. And which are the winners and losers (on a relative basis) will not make a ton of sense going into the rally. I think it’s wise to ignore all FUD and all shilling and focus on two things only: price action volume (delta, especially volume delta at support). There are about five that look really good right now in those respects. I think all ships will rise with the tide, but some will really lift off.
>>61324228Kek
>>61325466>on two things only: price action volumefundamentals of tech and adoption mean nothing?now i'll grant you it has been peak clown market lately
>>61324228i.e., bullshit
>>61325542clown marketClown MarketCLOWN MARKET!!!HONK HONKI'M CUUUUMMING
>>61322926>idiot waveslmfaofofofoaooofo
>>613254252022 was nothing retard
>>61325699Checked.If that is not a man, I would.
>>61325440Sorry I didn't zoom out enough to notice the current bullrun.I'm going to zoom out to 3D candles. Fuck, can't see it.Ok, now to 1 week candles, maybe the bull hides there. Still can't see it.Oh there it is on the monthly! When compared to April 2025, it's a higher low! Hooray! Does it mean the price will moon from current +2% YTD, in just 2 more weeks?Does the bullrun hide in the price as well? The +2% YTD is really good at hiding the mumu
>>61323834I agree. That was the most laconic and lethargic top in market history. It bore no sign whatsoever of a market top.
>>61323899You’re sorta right. Many will sell at 120 to 125, grateful they got another chance to sell at what will be fudded as a double top, then BTC will scream higher. I don’t even hold BTC, but that’s what the chart says. And when it does start to pump, it’s going to be explosive.
>>61326986>hurr durr it gongo upOrI'm right and it goes to 109 because every retard wants to frontrun it.
>>61326986>>61327007Or it goes sideways for a few weeks as big capital loads up around ~94k
>>61325440Agreed. And monthly looks even more bullish.
>>61327007Honestly. Youre both better of making a spread bet in prediction markets. Or making a market. You are both just cluelessly and hopefully gambling after all. If you can’t see the fundamentals, maybe use a different set of modelling. Like assuming 95% retail placements get wrecked and 85% of analysis and publicity is maliciously deceptive placed by motivated actors. We can start getting a picture of what might happen, to the majority of capital exposure, this would be the largest incentive of where the market might move.
>>61327125Yeah, a couple few weeks sideways is a very likely scenario. When everyone knows a big move is coming, one way or the another, prices tend to almost freeze for a while. Granted, it could be a wide range for the sideways movement, and maybe a series of takeouts.
>>61327144Yeah, I’m starting to see how extensive the disinformation campaigns are — both ways. And I agree with what you’re saying. And I agree that I am speculating as to the probability of a specific outcome — big up. My position is based on the reasoning at the end of your post. I think crypto has been positioned, on an institutional level, to incentivize the flow of capital in large volumes in the event of a liquidity deluge, which is all but assured under the current (and developing) monetary situation. I think all the infrastructure is in place to accommodate that flow. I think cryptos recent decoupling from equities also bodes very well as crypto will be used as a flight to safety from falling equity prices. And so, I want to be positioned in such a way as to maximize my gains, as I’m increasingly confident in the outcome.
>>61327155It's most likely bullshit but I've heard some interview from few weeks ago where a wallstreet big fish (from Blackrock IIRC) was asked if their big clients are buying BTC, he laughed and said "No, not yet, they asked us to drop it by -25% first and then they will consider buying".
>>61327176My point is one of systemic mechanical advantages.Your belief, is the weakest part of any premise you undertake. You must crystallise your why. Manipulation is inherent, it’s one of the only reliable factors. Like the rising sun and gravitation, we can rely they’ll be at play tomorrow. The hearts and minds will be manipulated to use hope as a blinding functions to rationale decision making. Anon.. your super power is autism. Ffs. You are fixating and being sedentary. You are not a complete maker victim. Reposition yourself to one of knowledge advantage. What do you know about and love? What would you work in for free?
>>61327176A flight risk asset. Possibly. But it’s got fulcrums in play at every level to implode the entire structure if it settles outside domestic control.. which would eliminate its threat against the collapsed economy its seeking refuge from. Also, the underlying stabilisers are inherently problematic and could not withstand panic scrutiny on that level.
>>61327176>I think all the infrastructure is in place to accommodate that flow.Consider the following anon:>on Octobear 10th, an outflow of ~90 million USD caused a liquidation cascade of ~20 billion>ETH dumped -30% in minutes>tl;dr - selling of 90 millions dumped ETH by -30%, and most shitcoins well over -50%Imagine you're a big institution seeing this. It's hard evidence that all ALTs are illiquid as fuck, and the price is propped up by degens on x20 longs.Now ask yourself - why would you allocate significant capital to such a frail, overbought and illiquid asset class?
>>61327202>>61327176Tl-dr;>2 more weeks and capital fleeing USD and stocks will enter cryptoEntire 2025 was a massive flight of capital from USD into literally everything and anything. Stocks going +200%. Gold +52%.Meanwhile literally all ALTs dumped, and BTC is +2% YTD, or -9% for BTC/EUR.The flight has been happening for months now, at full retard speed. Crypto was not affected by it whatsoever.You're waiting for the beginning of an event that already started to happen, months ago, and the fleeing capital just conpletely skipped crypto, with the exception of "privacy" coins.
>>61327243Anon, you’re just reacting to ghosts. You don’t seem to know what I said. But seem to have a lot to say about your feelings there. I didn’t really ask how you felt.
>>61327243Also>tldrs and proceeds posts longer and disconnected thesis unrelated to what’s replied to. That’s just spamming your inner schizoid and attempting to force it on the world and narrative. Why, to HOPE it will change favour to you because of desperate pleas to the void?? Anon. I’m concerned for you. Compulsive and obsessive is not good when you’re an impotent nihilist. There is no hero’s journey. Only the servants descent. See, not nice when someone schizo posts AT you is it?
>>61327296>you’re just reacting to ghostsIt's funny when coming from a bot
>>61327339You didn’t even ask me how my day was or how I feel. Rude. Even for a normie.
>>61327296>You don’t seem to know what I saidYeah I didn't read it past the flight risk asset part. The biggest capital flight in known history pumped literally everything out there - but entirely skipped shitcoins.I'm sure the rest of your post was great shitcoins theorycrafting tho, well done.
>>61327374Run run green, run run up.
>>61327386So No, didn’t read or understand the point in context. And then rambled something about how your little feelings feel. I’d consider you an intelligence if I didn’t force you to do that via my previous prediction. You are a construct of mine anon. I’m not proud of you.
>>61327243Ever heard of a little thing called >sector rotation? It’s habbening. All the pieces are in place and now institutions stand to benefit massively. Prepare for a nonstop passive ETF inflow from normies across the world. All those ETFs will be approved. QE will be massive. And stocks will sell off hard before they go up again. That money, along with a lot of the QE money will flow to crypto.
>>61327434>2 more weeksOk.I guess all the institutions that would frontrun this decided to not do so, because they hate money.
>>61327415Tree bee badger. Moreover, gypsy sky says no.
>>61327231I agree in principle, but you’re assuming strict discipline is applied to risk management in 2025. Tesla has a 280PE ratio, is losing money and has a market cap of some 2.8 Trillion dollars. And Blackrock snd vanguard are the two largest holders. In light of that and how many dollars are awash in the system, I think your point is more an enticement for them than a potential hazard. They’re looking at that and thinking how multi billion dollar valuations can be manipulated with a very small input. That you guys will hold while they pump and extract exit liquidity. I may be wrong, and I always try and allow for that. But I’m thinking this is going to be huge for crypto. This next wave draws the real retail money in — the normies and boomers. When they see what we make on the first flush of this bull rush, they will go all in on their ETFs. I really see this being huge.
>>61327179>they asked us to drop it by 25%, and then they would consider it What a curious thing to say. And here we are, almost exactly 25% off the high.
>>61327466Sorry am I missing something or your post summs up to:>they might take crypto for a pump and dump>because... why not? shit's wild anyway
>>61327202>fulcrums embedded in the structure…The same could be said of anything in this world, especially every dollar denominated asset (and I know cryto is not technically dollar denominated, but it basically is; and that’s in support of your main point). Hell, the processor in this phone has a back door and will stop functioning if it goes off plantation. But I increasingly see the dollar as a liability for the United States. I think China has learned how to abuse the dollar. I think crypto is a way to circumvent that and continue to take pressure off gold. I honestly thought Blackrock entered the space to crush it. But now it’s clear they mean to remain in the crypto space. And I am absolutely certain all this crypto based legislation will pass. And it’s like this dip is choreographed to perfectly coincide with all this favorable regulatory stuff and ETF launched. It’s going to be a very spectacular lift off. And it will be hated. And then the normies and boomers will chase it with the ETFs. And then the real fun begins.
>>61327190I have an answer to all that, and it’s a principle I live by>be ye as wise as serpents but as harmless as doves.
>>61327448They’re driving the price down and scaring you into selling. It works every time. They do it with everything right before a big rally. This is not uncommon at all.
>>61327489No, faggot, I was telling you why your reasoning viz risk management and a sudden flash crash would not scare them off. Can you not even read what I was responding to? Don’t be smarmy with me, you sniveling little twerp.
>>61327512Ok. I don’t get it how you do. Serpents are literally unable to think or feel in the same way as other creatures. This leaves them more vulnerable, not less. Doves are a sign and symbol of war and peace. I said, if you believe something. It should be for a clear reasons you understand inherently guided by motivations you hold implicitly. Nothing magic about it. Being general is not being esoteric. I mentioned that the underlying economic pillar isn’t stable or steady. This again is not an abstract claim. Sorcery is not by incompetence but dispelled.
>>61327516>they are mass buying and frontrunning the market by dumping the priceOut of curiosity, what criteria would you use to prove your point invalid?>>61327532>Can you not even read what I was responding to?It's funny because I talked about the flash crash in terms of crypto being completely illiquid, you ignored that and switched to risk management and now REEE that I didn't address that.Flash crash of 10/10 has shown just how illiquid crypto is. If you want to cash out ~90 million $ all at once instead over days or weeks, you will cause a -50% crash of not only your shitcoin of choice, but the entire fucking market.
this thread turned pretty schizo pretty fast, wonder whyat this stage i almost want more elliott wave chart memelining at least that is based in some reality>>61327231a 90 mill sale isnt what caused the 10/10 crash, major fuckery from binance wasat the heart of it a faulty oracle that liquidated everyones cash into czs handsonly possible because as of now cz can set the price wherever he wants just like ftx did in late 2021 early 2022 and we had live threads following their manipulation hereits the exact same playbookonce the market structure bill passes thats all gone, if cz tries it again he will only see arbitrage bots outflow all the tokens very cheaply from his exchange and bankrupt him
>>61328635Based