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deutsch meme

>Mental Health
https://findahelpline.com/

>Jobs when it inevitably collapses
https://jobs.mcdonalds.com/

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners: so you feel like in the movies
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

>Boomer Investing 101: so zoomers with meme stocks can outperform you
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

Previously on /smg/
>>61339789
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first for America
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MARKET SELLOFF

>Wall Street traders bracing for Nvidia's results and a critical employment report abstained from placing large bets, despite the fact that both events will have a significant impact on market outlooks for the rest of 2025.
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Buy the dip.
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>>61340868
death to ham ass
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Is we getting a Santa Claus rally this year?
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Power 15-minute pump we all won
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>>61340865
I'm issuing a fatwa against this fucking gay ass clown market.
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DING DING DING DING DING

How did it go today?!?!
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>>61340865
Chill out OP dude wtf I’ll make a thread if you guys want too, you can’t just make every OP anti-German.
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its the time of the day to switch from spy to /es
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>>61340972
Everything cancelled out and my portfolio didn't move :|
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>>61340972
-2.36%
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>>61340972
-4.33% (35k)
I feel nothing. NVDA will destroy earnings.
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MSTR is not a good stock hold your options. its doesnt follow btc 1:1 at all
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> noc, rtx and lmt going against the index

Either rotation or fireworks in venezuela
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>>61340865
>IMG_3870.jpg
The longer that passes the more it feels like COVID had almost no economic impact and was a coverup for a serious financial crises that was already manifesting. Look at how the "post covid" trend shows up in 2019 in this chart for example.
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>>61340987
why are mutts so dysgenic
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>>61340972
-0.97% today.
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>>61340972
Today: -1.42%
This Month: -9.82%
This Year: -38.75%

sucks
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i need to kill someone as compensation
someone needs to suffer for my pain
which jew should i kill?
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Just going to read David copperfield and stop thinking about my losses that keep going day after day.
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>>61340986
800k nice, at what point are you gonna just spam bills and corporate paper and live off that?
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>>61340988
You should hold btc and short MSTR.
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>>61340972
-0.1%
My portfolio now seems to be comfy enough to fall asleep for the next weeks.
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>>61340998
>This Year: -38.75%
wtf are u buying
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>>61340958
We need to have a good reason to rally, think about it!
>>61340865
Bro if these markets are crashing until Powell I’m going for it 10k cash 1dte calls, this is when I hit the multi millions no way will he let us keep dying out.
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>>61340972
-0.06% thanks to googl
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>>61340972
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Nvidia earnings will be a nothing burger like it literally always is. Its going to go down 3% and then be back at the same price a week later
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>>61340972
-4.20%

I hate money!!
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>>61340994
China profited the most but somehow even they have developed huge issues with their production and industry
India and Vietnam are coming up, albeit with huge issues

>>61340998
Dude, just do something else
Buy 5 good companies, good value ones, good net margins, FCF, moat, during a bit of slump in sentiment, and hold for a year
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>>61340972
-3.5%
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>>61340987
This is the Mt. Crawford Bucees in VA.
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>>61340972
-$140.85 (-2.60%)
Bought too early kek but I am still mid-term bullish on SNDK so I think it'll rebound. I should set a stoploss, though...
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>>61341009
Powell doesn't speak for another month what are you talking about
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-1.7 today

i know you're very careful. you want to make the right investments. you see and understand how consequential your choices are. i know you see love as a lifelong commitment, and i know i've let you down in the past, showed you some things you'd rather not see in a partner. i know you have standards that you want me to live up to, and i mean to, you're not the only one that needs to grow for this to work. you're my angel, and i want to be what you desire. love you darling.

everyone else buy wkey.
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Tell me about the Indian stock market, is it worth speculating on?
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hi im anonymous
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>>61340972
+30% :)
Starting the week well.
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>>61341003
I was targeting roughly 1.5 million or so. I've ran some calculations that seems to show that as the tipping point for keeping my quality of life or even better without even having to work.
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>>61341057
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>>61341058
That's someone's son
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If nvidia misses on earnings this week, will that be the catalyst that finally pops the bubble?
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>>61340972
-1.97%
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>>61340972
i'm down 2k at a measly 1% loss
desu i'm numb to it.
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>>61341064
Even better
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>>61341060
nice, hoping to do the same, my target is currently 5.7 to 7.5 but im probably gonna just get prime brokerage with access to paper markets and first bids on corporates at that point becuase im addicted
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Brehs I was up 16k for the year 2 weeks ago and now I’m only up 3k.
I’m a wagie.
It’s over.
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>>61341078
>>61341058
anon finds these from a ukranian nazi telegram server
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>>61340972
+$16 thank you early morning buyers.
Slowly recovering -2k from ai.
$1985 more to go.
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AI bursts:
>SP500 crashes
>NASDAQ crashes
>energy sector crashes
>commodities crash
>dollar crash?

I only see VIX, gold, cash for cheapies and possibly food related stocks as the only hedges. Gold makes me nervous as its already at ATH. The contagion should be limited to semis and possibly financials? Oh everybody will freak the fuck out, dipping the whole market
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>>61341086
Learn to take profit retard
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I'm negative -$41,000 for the year
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>>61341098
Unironically bitcoin might do well.
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>>61340950
dude fuck off with the racism
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>>61341065
Yes. The market has been dumping for 3 weeks to price in Wednesday. If beat, we get 10% of our money back. If miss, S&Penis drops to 550 in 1 day.
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>>61341105
Doubt, as it is heavily correlated to NASDAQ, unless market completely loses faith in the dollar as it hyperinflates for some reason. Im a brainless though
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>>61341105
Lol. I seriously fucking doubt that.
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>>61340972
Bought more SOXL at 35.80 to male up for my 38.50 blunder. Sell order at 42.50, but may manually sell depending on the day. Otherwise, flat.
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>>61341086
It's an escalator up and it's an express elevator down
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i keep telling myself today is the day i become a respectable trader but here i am dollar cost averaging into the AUDJPY for the pacific market hours
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>>61340998
>that cliff after liberation day
uff,
you did pretty well after, are/were you leveraged?
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>>61341098
You AI bubble faggots are getting really annoying. Its not going to happen. The market only cares about rate cuts and what cheetoh nigger has to say on twitter
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Saudi will invest on AI
deal announced soon
you retards cannot see that for some reason
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>>61341118
>>61341123
Bitcoin is zoomer gold. People buy it when they're scared. And unlike gold, it's not at ATH, so I think it would fare better. That's just my uninformed opinion though.
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>>61341142
What did you post, king?
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>>61341145
Bitcoin generally follows stocks. It dumped in March just like everything else.
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>>61341145
Bitcoin (partially) follows the market and Zoomers have no money.
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>>61340972
Absolutely terrible, my hopes and dream of being a perma neet are being dashed away!

>>61341060
I need like $500k. Couldn't you just settle for $1m and live like a lower middle class person?
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This. This is why you don't use RH. I was up 3 bucks, it forces me to take al oss selling at market value. Now if I lose money in the future it's not a writeoff. Their order books deliberately try to fuck you over.
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>>61341138
You say that then i look at my ai watchlist
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are there any other aussie traders for the Sydney, Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Singapore markets or am I alone?
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GRRRilla Niggers! We're so back!!
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>>61341167
That happens to me on fidelity with partial orders fills, even though its a limit order. You get multiple lots within pennies.
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>>61341169
Show the stocks. A bunch of small caps dumping is irrelevant.
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>>61341145
I yield, zoomers are likely to cash out and reinvest in zoomer shit, such as bitcoin. Zoomers are also broke retards that won't move the markets and probably invest in dog coins
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>everything hedges on Nvidia earnings
>Bank of Japan might raise rates, if that happens we're completely fucked (unlikely, Japan is Americas bitch)
I seriously hope you guys bought protective puts.
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>>61341008
>>61341024
>>61341133
Don't worry, I'm getting exactly what I deserve
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>>61341174
This is my only chance of getting some money back. Please god let this moon>>61341181
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>>61341164
>I need like $500k
Can you talk about the strategy here? This seems to net you barely above minimum wage annually if you put it in one of those divviemaxxed ETFs. It's a start but I'm sure the cost of things like health insurance could drive you down into a prohibitively poor lifestyle. Owning property also seems like a must, even if it's a trailer or something (and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that)
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>>61341167
on RH you dont even get fills on exchanges, there are desks that trade against you on a business model that RH overall will lose money
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>>61341141
How does that make AI profitable though? I don't think things become more profitable just because you throw more money at it I could be wrong though
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>>61341187
>Bank of Japan might raise rates, if that happens we're completely fucked (unlikely, Japan is Americas bitch)

Ninja bond fags are getting axed then?
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It’s not too late to become a gorillionaire before earnings tomorrow

Rumours are nvidia has purchased a stake
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I might join the GRRR Gorilla niggers
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>>61341024
>China profited the most
I feel like they actually got hit the hardest. Something is really fucked up over there and no one wants to admit it.
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>>61341195
minimum wagecuck here, i afford live because i margin maxx into FX and bond future positions where my margin limit is my "stop" loss and just add contracts when it is a winner so i have like 4 exponential gains each year, owning property is like becoming trans in todays economy
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>>61341145
What? Bitcoin is a speculative asset people buy it when things are good and sell when things are bad you retard the complete opposite of gold
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>>61341111
Checked and correct.
All the more reason I think NVDA beats and the market comes back to life again. NVDA has consistently provided solid to blow-out earnings results.
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>>61341187
You have no idea how short I am.
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>>61341105
No. The cycle is over. Wait a year before buying.
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>>61341197
I've heard this being said about european fintech brokers
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>>61341187
Nvidia earnings will be record breaking that's pretty obvious given the hundreds of billions they've given out(invested) so other companies buy their GPUs(round tripping) though the money given out is less than they'll receive in revenue from it, it will still look good on paper in the short term
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>>61341218
Gay bears confirmed under 6ft
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It's so incredible listening to the old Republican boomers at work. How do you make it so long without having even the slightest inkling of economics. I wish they were actually conservatives instead of absolutely retarded MAGAs. It's kinda sad even. MFs areeee hell bent were getting a 2k check and because of all the money from tariffs. They think I'm lying when I tell them we're running a 200B+ deficit every month. Even if you show them the actual reports. Somehow it's fake.
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>>61341145
Bitcoin is a pyramid scheme bought into by retards thinking they'll get rich quick. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>61341224
if you want a brokerage where the PFOF is gaurenteed to route you to the exchange of your choice you will spend ridiculous ammounts of commissions as well. FX is the only retail trading where you dont get HFT raped because the currency market is so big traders maybe are at most .7% of total capital in a day
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>>61341184
I'll save you the time. I counted my ai list.

Large x4
Mid x3
Small x6

All red.
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>he plays nigvidier earnings
you just dont learn
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>>61341041
I speculate that India shouldn't have a stock market. Or access to the internet.
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>>61341236
I was told bitcoin was the future of finance and the key to exiting the matrix and breaking the jewish stranglehold on western civilization
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>>61341233
Anyone asking for a 2k stimmy has the memory of a goldfish. It didn't help during the plandemic, it just made things more expensive in the long term, and 2k isn't worth shit today.

Actual low iq fucktards running the show.
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>>61341041
I watched latest Bald&Bankrupt videos, shit's not looking well. Literally.
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>>61341248
90% of trading communities on reddit are posts of a chart that says "if you would have bought the low today you would have made money" then a link to a teelgram server thats an indian dude in sunglasses sellign a course for 125USD a month
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>>61340868
>>61340881
boohooo
OP cried to the jannies
like the mexican trash that he is
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>>61341263
Which store was this an opening of?
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>>61341271
Mt. Crawford VA
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>>61341254
That 2k seems way like a way better deal than paying $5-$10 more per weekly wal-mart visit.
The juice is worth the squeeze bo
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Poorfag here, I'm struggling to keep my IRA at $100k and things are getting scary, it all seemed so much brighter 2 months ago
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>>61341262
That's why I only get my financial advise from Instagram instead.
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NVDA beating earnings is priced in. Shorting NVDA/SPY is the real gains bet.
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I came here to discuss possible hedges against AI. VIX, short term bonds and cash seem like the best options thus far
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>>61340972
red on puts -$12,500 because this gay market takes so long to dump
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>>61341286
you may laugh but this is kangs ancestors were the george soros of ancient egyptian agriculture trading
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>>61341276
I thought that looked familiar. I only went there once because I didn't like seeing all the black people.
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>>61341271
Mr Hankey's Toys, 75% discount on refurbished, very popular on the US
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>>61341278
>>61341254
I'll take a check absolutely. Just wild trying to even remotely explain to them that it's just more debt and higher inflation and not actually covered by tariff revenue is like talking to a piece of wood.
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>>61340972
+2.87%. Shorting through the weekend was the right call. I was expecting a gap down tho.
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>>61341312
anon...
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>>61341298
I have also been trying to figure out how to hedge. I haven't found it yet. Straight cash for me until things change. I hate it. Just dipping in and out feels stupid.

I am open to suggestions...
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>>61341286
>10%/day
does this even beat inflation in 2025?
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>>61341286
bruh just made a quick 1,6 bil
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The AI meme is over. SPY lost the 50 day moving average. If you aren't selling now you are a fool.
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can any smartfaggot explain why AUD pair spreads are super wide hours into the sydnery session but 2 hours into the tokyo session they drop to like .2
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BREAKING NEWS:
GPUS FALLING ON OFFERING
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>>61341254
>inflation bad
It makes my debt more worthless and pumps up the stock market. Bring on the checks I say.
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>>61340986
Destroy as beat and rally or destroy as going to miss and dump miserably?
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>>61341278
are you fucking retarded?
it's stacking inflationary policy on top of inflationary policy
you're going to pay EVEN MORE for groceries if the checks get sent out
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>>61341254
infltion didnt kill the econopmy, fucking up energy supply chains for manhattanjewukraine was the first blow, then raising interest reates on economic growth because poorfags were crying was blow 2
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>>61341298
Amazing maybe that's why Buffett has been selling stocks and using the cash to invest in short US treasuries
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>>61341367
99% of what working class people think is inflation is just energy prices. if you maintained good oil policy by not doing anti russian anti BRICS retardation you could print money and people wouldnt care
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What should I buy as the markets are red?
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>>61341368
Short term*

Current yield is 3.83%
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>>61341364
Nah that 2k is worth it.
I’m not a fat ass endulger so paying $60 instead of $50 for groceries each week doesn’t hurt me.
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Buy the dip?
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is soxl being below 4 the equivalent of soxl being below 9 earlier this year?
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>>61341381
Six month US treasury is what Buffett has been buying
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>>61340972
-1.82% today
dividends still coming in nice though
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>>61341390
No. Was soxl above 100 before april or something? What kind of fucktarded question is this?
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>>61341383
Now Imagine you're an Europoor in an environment where the president of USA seeks to depreciate the dollar
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>>61341340
Why is the Franc so far off?
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>>61341413
I think anon means soxs
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>>61341415
UK six month gilt has a current yield of just under 4% so that's an option unless you think it's too risky and they might default
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>>61341394
>Six month US treasury
???
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It’s over isn’t it
NVidia is going to post lack luster earnings and it’s confirmed over from there
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Ever since the November 7, 2025 trade agreement, I feel like Trump has kinda indirectly sidelined us. He had to deal with getting a deal done for the shutdown and now recently, he has to deal with the the Epstein thing now. The trade deal (even if it's only for a year) with China was THE crown jewel, trade deals of all trade deals. But now that's completed, I'm not feeling the same energy and love towards the markets from him anymore.. I'm scared..
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>>61341498
It's okay anony. He'll buy some more minority stakes in companies because he loves money
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Pokemon investing general /pig/
>>61339341
>>61339341
>>61339341
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>>61341512
Kys
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>>61341516
This is cope
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>>61341525
pokemon isnt a stock fuck off
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>>61341485
What? Why the question marks
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I’m the GRRR shill

Am I vindicated, redeemed and esteemed?

Or vindalood, raped and pood.

https://www.stocktitan.net/news/GRRR/gorilla-technology-reports-record-revenue-in-q3-issues-2026-0h7okhcqm16c.html
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Fart the Shart
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>>61341491
I'm bagholding thru earnings thoughever seeing as I'm already down 12%
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>>61341534
keep coping
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Is the stock market euphoria over? I literally have been buying puts for months and then last week I went full port on calls
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"people" are still too bullish. I swear to god the hodl and slurp the dip psyop has rotten your brain so much that they could delist some stocks and people would still hope to turn it around
ITS OVER!
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>>61341552
Thanks a lot for fucking it up for the rest of us, dude.
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>>61341498
he's talking about just giving everyone helicopter checks instead of medicare or some shit again. where you been dog
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>>61341573
sorry I just buy and never sell. my port is evergreen.
>t up 553% on Nvidia.
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>>61341573
isn't this exactly what happened with bed bath and beyond? lmao
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what's fun is there's no put walls
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>>61341588
okay? I am x100 on shib token or whatever its called.
Your point?
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>>61341340
don't know but i vaguely remember there being some popular positioning/hedge related to basis swaps and commodities? i think. i mostly just remember that there is some trade that takes place there for some particular reason
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>>61341613
But are you full port on it
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>>61340865
>we irreparably harmed society for what was essentially the common cold
>even ignoring repeat infections, covid has a death rate of barely 0.4%
>for a society that is 74% overweight, 42% obese, and 10% morbidly obese
>even if ONLY the morbidly obese high risk groups were infected we're looking at a kill rate of barely 4%
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I hereby bring forth a motion for stock market general be renamed to gay jewish nigger market general
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>>61341622
nah, would be fucking some pussy with a ginger landing strip on a yacht rn if I were.
but its the same thing - buy some shitty ass asset, hodl, get lucky
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>>61341625
I remain convinced covid was a coordinated international effort to shoehorn in policy chances that would not have otherwise been possible.
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Thoughts on the Doordash economic report?
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>>61341637
Yeah you're right
>>61341625
When this guy is called "obese" I tend to think people are scared about nothing
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>>61341539
>Am I vindicated, redeemed and esteemed?

No because your average price is probably $20. Going up 10% after being down 50% doesn't redeem you
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>>61341445
Cheers anon, I'll look into that. Switzerland bonds have abysmal rates apparently lol
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>>61341595
yes lol
finance on 4chan turns into cults so fast
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>>61341625
it was a chinese general strike. we leaned into it to blunt the damage, allow them to save face, probably some nefarious reasons as well. still don't understand it completely. but the official story was a lie, that much i'm certain. taking a nap. 'til later.
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>>61341195
Low risk and not buying at the peak, better during a long downturn.
>Bank: $50k
>Stock Market, SPY shares: $450k
Generates something like $35k after tax. Though in reality I'd go higher risk than that. At $1m that's a pretty good amount to also have plenty for re-investing. At $1.5m I'd say that's enough to also get a mortgage on a nice house.
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Who's going to be watching the White House's Mcdonald's summit on the economy?
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>>61341682
Sleep tight anon
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rate cut tomorrow yes/no?
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>>61341058
PET JU FUFU
CUDDLE JU FUFU
MARRY JU FUFU
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Divvychads
WGMI
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>>61341677
BBBY wasn't really a 4chan thing, not entirely. It held some vague relations to GME and redditors lost their collective minds buying stock to a company that was obviously going to be delisted.

The people posting on the general are trolling, there's maybe one guy who's genuinely fucking retarded enough to believe in the conspiracy, creating this bizarre feedback loop of infinite (you)s of retards and trolls making the same arguments over and over again, forever.
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>>61341703
Yes
Powell is bluffing
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>>61341703
Just imagine, rate cut, Nvidia has blowout earnings, Trump promises a bailout for AI, ah the bull run to end all bull runs
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>>61341690
me
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>>61341690
i'll be watching the chik fil a build america back conference
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>>61341651
bullish
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>>61341445
I'd short UK bonds if I could find a way to get exposure from the US.
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>>61341713
HOLY YUMOLA
I BOUGHT some SPYI today
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What do Trump and Bessent have in common, financially speaking
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>>61341716
i think i will ride the wave after the news instead. big shots are hinting no cut left and right and this could really be a bluff
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>>61341485
I think that was a good idea about 6-9 months ago.
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>>61341749
They work together to fuck (You) and have a good laugh afterwards.
Story as old as times, but even worse.
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>>61341729
Hey buddy I know haircuts but I've never heard of coldcuts before ahahaha
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>>61341200
There is no AI bubble. There is n AI gold rush. AI will be profitable because within a decade 10% of people in the developed world and China will pay a Netflix-like subscription service. 1 billion people x $10/month = $120 billion /year industry. How many companies do you think will profit off that?
GPUs inside data centers last a cool decade, it’s nearly once per decade investment -- hence you see these giant numbers.
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>>61341539
you're not vindicated until I who bought when you started shilling double my money
See >>61341174
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>>61341847
>AI will be profitable because speculation
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>>61341539
Not quite because>>61341663
Is right and muh 1.3 billion contract obviously turned out to not be quite as lucrative as the shills were hoping. We'll give you the win if it goes up to at least $30 eoy. If the bubble doesn't pop then soundhound is still a better investment at this price (projected to become profitable very soon).
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>>61341881
This is why I'm bearish on AI.
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>>61341881
>Coreweave only gives back to daddy Nvidia
Hyper bearish for them
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>>61341034
Sorry I thought FOMC minutes also has a big speech thanks for reminding me so I didn't fuck it all up lol, so rate cuts are actually December?

OK I looked it up its Dec 10

Thanks anon I almost messed up.

>>61341682
Yes its something like that, or the CIA found out it was revenge against us for 2018 tariffs because they were working too well and caused their real estate crisis.

However, it wasn't worth it to go to war because we lose any conventional war with China so we decided to make lemonade, cover it up, and go on a spending spree that launched Millennial Americans to be the most powerful people of all time which was so fucking smart of Trump.

Like I said Trump is the L to Chinas Kira he was worth electing since only he understands how to deal with hardcore batshit crazy criminals like Epstein or Xi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=henSHvSi9Hg

>>61341847
AI is not a bubble, we already know we could make AI cost less power, we know the means, China told us how, the excuse is to make a literal Data Center highway so that we AGAIN INVENT THE EXCUSE so we can get what we really want. The ability in a nuclear war to still have AI and the AI bandwidth of GOD in a war imagine we have all these bandwidth BUT also some insane beyond China capabilities in processing, this will be what keeps us ahead.

When needed we will improve our AI to be less power draining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taWjtvyhWOw&list=PLWZFaY6Iz8KB7CShjDI8a3SAycyfq6YZ0&index=2
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>>61341847
>AI will be profitable because within a decade 10% of people in the developed world and China will pay a Netflix-like subscription service. 1 billion people x $10/month = $120 billion /year industry.
They've spent trillions on AI already it's gotten to the point that they're now issuing corporate bonds to fund the spending and the reality is most people won't pay for AI and free Chinese clones already exist and will continue to exist what they're actually basing profitability on is achieving AGI which they claim they can do in two years it's all bullshit techbros are giving these utopian-esque sales pitches to investors and they're forking over hundreds of billions it's a money sink with no potential return on investment
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>>61341847
I’m off by a factor of 10, but I originally wanted to make a different point - I wanted to say that a significant fraction plus all the companies (ie whales) will pay hundreds per year for a "Jarvis"-like AI assistant service. I only switched it last minute to the Netflix analogy, which sounds less far-fetched, without recalculating.
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>>61341749
They both agree that (You) need to subsidize demand and blow the load off inflation.
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>>61341881
so... are google, amazon and apple safe?
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>>61341953
>so rate cuts are actually December?
>Trump is the L to Chinas Kira
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>less revenue than Genshin Impact
Based Ed always has the right trvthnvke at hand.
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>>61341953
>so rate cuts are actually December?
No its not a for sure thing. They announce if there will be or not
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>>61341174
>lost 9 bucks
Kk.
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>>61342032
He's keeping a tab on it for fun
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>>61342002
>I wanted to say that a significant fraction plus all the companies (ie whales) will pay hundreds per year for a "Jarvis"-like AI assistant service.
Why do you assume that? At the moment, LLMs are not intelligent, and there's not much separating the different models from each other. How can they charge hundreds of dollars per user when none of these AI companies have a moat?
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Anybody remember why we're dumping?
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>>61342029
I once tried to fuck a russian mid 30s girl that was a bit autistic and obsessed with genshin impact.
I will never get over her, she is my roman empire
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It's amazing how despite the open rhetoric from the CEOs borrowing the money about AGI being the goal that people think AI will make money from their current revenue model even though that's not even currently profitable the entire investment is centred around AGI if there's no AGI there's no return on investment so if you invest in these companies keep that in mind you're saying you do think AGI will be achieved by the company you put money into and you think they will achieve it soon

https://medium.com/@cognidownunder/agi-still-years-away-despite-tech-leaders-bold-promises-for-2026-146c9780af65
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>>61342058
Greatest depression
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>>61342039
I did this with about a dozen /smg/ stocks and realized I put way too much into shit 'for fun'.
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>>61342010
>blow the load off inflation.
are the blowing the tariff negotiations and prepared to swallow the consequences for the economy?
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>>61342061
If you want you can just search for Sam Altman's comments regarding AGI in less than a year he went from saying it's imminent and he knows how to achieve it to saying the term is fluid and not to fixate on it now they've started to hit diminishing returns while scaling and started to squeeze more revenue from their product hence Sora the and fees associated with it increasing and them leaning into the erotica aspect of AI
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>>61342059
You dodged a bullet.
>>61342061
AI has already made me 100x more productive. The problem is that I don't actually do more work, I just use the extra time to nap or eat a snack and then rub my belly.
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>>61341847
>>61342002
I mean you're plan wrong the sales pitch around AI is centred on them achieving AGI that's what Anthropic and OpenAI promised when they started borrowing in 2024
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>>61342125
>I just use the extra time to nap or eat a snack and then rub my belly.
Cute
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>>61342125
maybe but i still really want to get shot
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Nvidia will miss earnings by few, but Jensen will higher up the guidance a lot and will say something about selling in China again. Shits gonna PUMP AND RIP back at 200s.
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>>61342161
Why is part of him pink?
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>>61341847
Ai is a very short term bubble. However I'm not sure the government will allow it to fail at this point.

The question is what exactly happens if China surpasses the US? Right now we arent really clear what ai will do or be as it grows. The ai companies keep throwing around AGI but that's kind of a buzz term. Is there an actual point in which the first country with a sufficiently advanced ai can no longer be surpassed? Or is this more of a nuke race in which both sides reach a standoff having equal ais.
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>>61342125
MIT found 95% of companies see no return on investment or increase in productivity from the introduction of "AI"

https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ai_report_2025.pdf
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>>61342167
Clintons cumshots tend to smear the orange spray paint off.
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>>61341340
Australia is one of the first markets to open (after New Zealand), so the first few hours are going to be relatively illiquid, except for aussie stocks.
It's only when markets in Japan, Singapore, China, etc. also start opening that you start seeing real action in futures markets, money markets, etc.
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>>61342123
The AI bubble is that fact that its not working out as hoped and the realization that another $500 billion will not make it work either, or at least that with out true AI the functionality provided so far does not provide enough revenue to justify current spending and big money already placed short positions and now we see the media hype to drive AI stocks lower. The time required to develop enough new power generation is too long to meet the hyped growth cycle. I already sold out of most of my AI plays.
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>>61342178
I work as a data scientist and we try to implement it everywhere but people are genuinely just too retarded to utilize it properly.
We managed to automate some document intelligence tasks though
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>>61342178
Mostly because they dont know what to do with it. My company for instance immediately tried replacing customer service and that didn't work at all.

Then this year they figured out one specific position that they could replace across the country. They cut out probably like 100 people and they now have around 3 people and ai doing it instead in a central location.
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>>61342202
we deployed it at several companies because they requested it. not a single one still uses it. the biggest complaint we got was reliability in responses.
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>>61342172
>China surpasses the US?
If true AI does not yet exist, and will not exist for some time, there is nothing for china to beat the US over. Just compute power by itself is no special mix to win any type of war (military, manufacturing, finance, cyber). More data centers with more chips will not make AI develop any sooner, and it may not be possible for some time if at all.
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The issue here is the disconnect between the the investment in AI and the return you get from it that's why it's a bubble there are obviously use cases for AI and it will get better over time and AGI might be achieved but the current stock valuations are egregious and they're going to crash hard but because they've become such a concentrated part of the market and the main drivers of growth their devaluation turns into an economic collapse most Nvidia stock holders are retail investors for instance the US economy is propped up by the top 10% doing 50% of consumer spending when their stocks plummet in value they'll stop spending and when they do more layoffs will happen and as more people get laid off you get a recession that's not even taking into account the current debt issues and coming housing collapse next year
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>>61342195
Aussie stocks only react based on the US market or what's happening with commodities since our largest stock market is dominated by miners protip btw if you have shares in Australian miners I'd suggest dumping them many smelters and miners are starting to close because of rising energy costs and it's only going to get worse the cost to switching over to renewables is huge and they're warning Australians to expect extremely high prices for the next 10 YEARS as a result
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>>61342202
>I work as a data scientist and we try to implement it everywhere
I pitched AI as a project in 2015 to help find fraudulent data in our databases. We hired microsoft and gave them access to all of our data, and we identified five different cases as examples. Microsoft was able to find the five different cases in all of our data. I signed off on training for data model design (early days of feature engineering) and how to do more advanced queries and people thought it was great, then just went back to doing what they were doing. All you need is a few people who really know what to do to set up the database, data model, and data processing and you can literally fire about 60% of the employees.
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AI
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>>61342253
Also they've already started to nationalise smelters that go under so the government will operate the business at a loss using taxpayer money just so a few hundred people in a regional area get $100,000+ jobs while costing 10x to the taxpayer
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>>61342230
I'm inclinded to agree. I also suspect that the ai race may actually hinge on something in the periphery that we dont yet recognize like a material science advancement.

>>61342226
>>61342202
I actually had to strong arm my company into dropping a specific portion of their ai rollout because it was so retarded. Sorry I'm being vague so as not to dox myself. As far as reliability i find the fact that it actively learns to be a significant problem. Idiots just keep making it stupider and funny enough i figured out that if i spammed it with certain things I could make it talk to customers like myself lol. Smart customers likewise figured out they could trigger alerts with key words.
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>>61342178
try reading the report

here is the conclusion
>For organizations currently trapped on the wrong side, the path forward is clear: stop
investing in static tools that require constant prompting, start partnering with vendors who
offer custom systems, and focus on workflow integration over flashy demos. The GenAI
Divide is not permanent, but crossing it requires fundamentally different choices about
technology, partnerships, and organizational design.
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>>61342294
>Organizations that successfully cross the GenAI Divide do three things differently: they buy rather than build, empower line managers rather than central labs, and select tools that
integrate deeply while adapting over time. The most forward-thinking organizations are
already experimenting with agentic systems that can learn, remember, and act
autonomously within defined parameters.
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>>61342294
That changes nothing are you a retard? People are going to go with products like ChatGPT because of brand recognition you act as though businesses inherently do things that good for them
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Just realized that lithium miner stocks move almost 1:1 with lithium itself, albeit slightly faster due to being like leverage on the asset.
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>>61342233
>most Nvidia stock holders are retail investors for instance
a simple google search shows thats not true
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Damn I should have bought this shit like 6 months ago.
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>>61342308
dont shoot the messenger. thats from your MIT report lol.
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>>61342226
We try to index every piece of data there is but people refuse to gather better data. They store everything in shitty docs and then cry about poor responses when they see the LLM put out the exact same gibberish they have in their knowledge bases

>>61342257
People will flood you with messages on how urgently they need the new AI feature, just to never use it once it goes to production. Its crazy. Our team created a gitlab code review solution that works quite well. We tried to pitch it to other developers and nobody gave a shit.
Last week it turned out the team CI/CD started working on their own solution for some reason.
People keep making up novel retarded ideas on how they would like to "boost productivity" using AI and when you deliver they won't even bother to give you feedback.
Good thing I mostly do some fake RnD stuff and just grow my stack and try to implement some soa solutions so I can put it on my CV and change my job. I would prefer to go to robotics but no jobs there in my country
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>>61342308
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>>61340865
Check the S&P 50-day moving average
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>>61342316
I bought lithium just in case during the trade war escalation. China supplies a good portion of our lithium and we only have 1 active mine (The others are all still in progress). More importantly however China accounts for something like 50% of all our batteries. We do have battery manufacturers here but they've been struggling under the competition for a long time.

You like that car of yours?- battery
You like that cellphone?- battery
You like that powergrid?- BATTERY

I forget the exact raw lithium import from china. I think its over 25%
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>>61342325
I know it is but as I said you're acting as though businesses are going to inherently do what's best rather than just go with the one with the most brand recognition what don't you understand? You're saying that because businesses can increase productivity by having a custom AI system that it somehow means that they will therefore making the claim in the report of the current figures somehow invalid are you a retard?
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>>61342338
See >>61342353
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BLACK TUESDAY
COMING RIGHT UP
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>>61342353
tell MIT you disagree with the conclusion of their report. stop trying to make it personal with me.
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BIT MIIIIIIIIIIIIINE
BIT MIIIIIIIIIIIIINE
BIT MIIIIIIIIIIIIINE
BIT MIIIIIIIIIIIIINE LITTLE TRASH AND CRASH BAGS

https://youtu.be/lLZvJ_rtZO8?si=7bgK4wnKZ3Cs9LmK
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>>61342315
If I am being entirely fair to him, historically retail would have been like 5% of the market. The 10% in 2020 was a historical high. 32.48% is awfully high and I bet most of them bought over 100 bucks.
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>>61342394
But I don't you retard are you an ESL? Their numbers in the report don't change because of the statement you keep posting you do understand the purpose of the statement is ways to address the current disconnect with AI adoption and the returns and productivity businesses get from it you act as if that means their numbers are invalid disagreeing with the report itself and that businesses are all going to adopt custom AI models
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Anyone want to short XBI with me
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>>61342404
>most of them bought over 100 bucks.
by "most" you mean 32.48% right?

just ask him out bro. worst he can say is no.
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>>61342404
Holy crap i didn't know nvidia was that retail heavy. I'm calling it. Earnings pumps and institutional investors rug pull to get out no matter what.
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>>61342430
>big after hours pump as reddit swarms in for 'cheapies'
>entire thing collapses back to 100 bucks in the coming months, fucking reddit's shit right up
>they slurp the dip all the way back down.
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>>61342422
i dont give a fuck what you think.

please leave me alone.
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>>61342446
Please explain how the conclusion of the report which gives ways to address the current numbers that the reports gives somehow disproves the numbers given by the report since you started this and said I and by extension the report was wrong while also citing the report
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>>61340865
/BYND/ gen is gone by BBYQ is still here.
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I'm starting to think going balls deep on RDDT and META calls at 200 and 640 respectively was not the play
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>>61342439
If they beat by anything less than .7 eps I'm tempted to short immediately after the intial release pump lol.
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>>61342125
Where do I get a girl like this?
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>>61340865
I’m getting slaughtered on crypto miners down from 170k to 67k in like three and a half weeks. The miners I have didn’t even run like the rest of the cohort.
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>>61342474
I guarantee hundreds of billions were lost buying calls on the meta dip
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>>61342503
META just issued $30 billion in corporate bonds to pay for some of their AI spend that's why their shares tanked and Zuck's commitment to spend even more next year and borrow even more will tank it further this comes right after the money they wasted on the Metaverse
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>>61342445
Gambling is unironically easier than than stocks if you only take gambles you know you will win.
>26% odds
>you know you're 100% right
>put 10k on it because of how right you are
>make 28k
Easy.
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>>61342520
What exactly does meta plan on doing with ai? Scam boomers harder?
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>futures
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>>61340972
My puts printed but I'm still holding stuff long so -1.2%
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Today I solded RACE so it will be up bigly tomorrow screencap this
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>>61342373
Proof?
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>>61342535
The maturity date on the bonds go as high as 40 years
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>>61340986
You think that matters?
>>61341138
Mumus getting so mad they seeing red.
But that red is the last thing they they see before the matador puts a sword through their heart.
>>61341847
Who is going to be using a decade old GPU?
GPUs have a useful lifespan of about 3 years in a data center. Anything else is just lying to boost short term profits.
>>61341990
I won't even pay $20 a month for chatgpt and there is barely a difference between pay and free. If they started pay walling everything I would just switch chatbots.
It is a zero sum game that idiots are dumping hundreds of billions into.
>>61342061
Yeah. You can already see by comparing chatgpt 4 to chatgpt 5, that there is little progress being made on the LLM front.
Useful training info has been exhausted.
So all they can do is make the existing models more efficient.
I'm going to say we are probably 30 years from AGI and it is going to take a while new type of computer to get there.
>>61342123
Scam Altman plans to profit from creating Literotica and porn.
>>61342316
Looks like a bipolar chart to me.
>>61342439
Nvidia would be juicy at $100.
It is a good company, just not worth the current price.
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Futures looking crabby and btc cooked. We're visiting 645 tomorrow
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>>61342580
>Looks like a bipolar chart to me.
Nuh uh it has adhd
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I fogot to buy.
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WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO MIRROR THE US STOCK MARKET??!?!!! WHAT DO I HAVE TO BUY TO BE UNAFFECTED BY AMERICAN FAGGOTRY?! HOW DO I DIVERSIFY AWAY FROM THAT CLOWN SHOW OF A COUNTRY?!
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>>61342644
>anon discovers the economics of the modern world, where globalization has made a net of tradeable goods and services, therefore making ALL but the most isolated companies to be moved by the ripple effects of concentrations of mass, that is developed economies of which the most open to the market is the USA
i find it interesting how physics and economics correlate beyond just statistics
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there’s no way the fed doesn’t lower rates, right?
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>>61342682
why would they
the top 10% are still spending like crazy
inflation would go out of control
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>>61342644
>HOW DO I DIVERSIFY AWAY FROM THAT CLOWN SHOW OF A COUNTRY?!
unironically, gold and silver
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>>61340865
Whitey thought he was black. Whitey was wrong. Every. Single. Time.
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Orange cumslut has genuinely destroyed all forms of investing
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I applied for accredited investor stats via IBKR. Any anons have this feature enabled? What does it look like in the portal?
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oh what's that? something bothering you sweaty?
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here are my positions, short USDJPY, because im not a scardy faggot also this is not financial advice
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Um mumoidz?
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I'm shorting XBI but in the worst way. I've got January calls on the inverse etf labd. Every day that goes by, and with every zigzag it does, im losing value. Probably going to ruin me because they'll prop this shit for months instead of giving me a waterfall. Should have just gone with longer dated puts on XBI.
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Everyone feeling good about tomorrow after the McDonald's economic summit and Trump's speech? Nothing but green candles in sight
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>>61342832
Nah it's ovah. We going to zero.
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>FUTURES
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>>61342832
>McDonald's economic summit
the what
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>>61340997
with digits to match
.97% here too
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>>61342852
McDonald's is disgusting a rate cut after seeing the doordash report.
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>>61342294
Delloite and EY are hood winking a lot of retarded managers with flashy demos that are just skins for api calls
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>>61341013
? GOOG was up today
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>eating hamburger helper for dinner
>I actually like it
Yep we are in the midst of a recession
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>>61342852
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/biz/ is truly the most Jewish board on this site.
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i need some dividend stocks
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>>61342852
Golden Age
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>>61342959
>>61342943
wtf is this real I thought you guys were joking
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>>61342991
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>>61342959
This is fake, right? My unc brain can't tell anymore.
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>>61343031
goddamit maybe it WAS supposed to be a democracy
maybe predictive programming is real
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>>61342862
>McDonalds is disgusting
>McDonalds is discussing a rate cut
two truths in one sentence
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>>61343035
It's real. Things are that bad. Welcome to America 2025, a Jewish McDonald's empire.
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>>61343043
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>>61343049
if you only knew
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>>61343085
cucking RFK with the slop burger was pretty fucking funny
Trump is the funniest president hands down
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God oughta strike down my country for its wickedness.
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>>61343031
Is a Happy Meal really $11? Chat is this true? I think that Big Mac price is wrong. It was just a few franchises that were gouging people.
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>>61343107
United States of McDonald's?
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>>61343112
I think they're using the most expensive big mac in the country. NYC or remote Alaska.
It's anti-trump so you know it's as disingenuous as possible if not a total lie
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>>61343031
For me is the 5 dollars meal, burger, fries, coke and chikin nuggets.
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