late night edition>Some helpful links to numb the painhttps://findahelpline.com/https://www.nvidia.com/refunds/https://www.whitehouse.gov/refundshttps://jlingz.com/>Jobs when it inevitably collapseshttps://jobs.mcdonalds.com/>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.comhttps://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Financial TV Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/>Charts:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://www.finscreener.comhttps://www.portfoliovisualizer.com>Screeners: so you feel like in the movieshttps://finviz.com/https://etfdb.com/>Gambling:https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Pre-Market and Live data:https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Calendarshttps://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.htmlhttps://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits>Boomer Investing 101: so zoomers with meme stocks can outperform youhttps://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.financialjuice.com/homehttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://market24hclock.com/https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-ratesPreviously on /smg/>>61364097
bubble = i missed it btc is the other classic example
Is there an ETF that isn't correlated to the S&P 500 but has like at least 10% returns yearly?
is it a good ideia to buy bitcoin now?
Everyone is broke, we need a good ol war. Is Iraq still a thing?
>>61365395bernie madoff had one but haters shut it down
it's really it this timeyou guys say it's just 5%but the fear has never been this bad we are heading to ZERO on all asset classes stockpile food and munitions or be eaten alive by those too stupid to see what was coming
>>61365403yesbottom is in
>>61365395NopeAs long as America can keep printing USD without major consequences, there is no ETF that will give you return like SPY
henlo mister jeromewe were counting on u todayand u have let us all downwhy have u not saved the rally?please do emergency rate cutsthank u mister jerome
>No true crash for 14 years>A 14 year long bull marketWhat am I not seeing here? It just seems too risky, it seemed risky even 5 years ago but now it's like mega-super-risky (financial term)
>>61365395>>61365432We should create one.Maybe if we add a bit off everything.1/4 bonds,1/4 snp5001/4 Bitcoin 1/4 commodity
>>61365448What is a true crash in your opinion?
>>61365461CLOZ etf has 11.20% CAGR. -5% Max drawdown, and 0.10 beta. Might park some cash in that
>>61365448covid 2020 was a 35% crash. 2020 was a 25% crash. this year was 20%. did you buy those dips?
>>61365479*2022
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oJoI2GFwDTQ
>>61365472when something other than the stock market becomes the dominant asset and capital rotation happens.A true crash is some kind of rotation event that lasts for years.>>61365479Bought them all. Not a real capital rotation still.
>>613654482% is a crash to all the people treating the stock market as a casino. However even I would call the covid decline a crash.
>>61365407I think they are already cooking something up. they need another unifying event, I think it will probably be South America centric to proxy with China/Russia.
>be you>no idea what happened>dont go to archive>dont ctrl-f japan>still no idea
>>61365491>A true crash is some kind of rotation event that lasts for years.That's only happened twice in a hundred years. In 1929 and during the Dot Com crash. Given our wreckless money printing and the fact that we can let poor Boomer's starve there's no chance of that happening nowdays
>>61365498I just assumed it was because they put a woman in charge
>>61365479You really have no idea do you? Lmao
>>61365508it was!
>>61365492Problem was it was a "crash" based on circumstances that had nothing to do with the stock market, it wasn't a true capital rotation event. We're well into the upswing of that.If recovery takes less than 3 years I'm not counting it as a crash. We've recovers instantly.>>61365505The stock market was an entirely flat line all the way from 2000 to 2012.Twice in a hundred years is significant, that means more than 25 years of capital rotation in that time period.>We can let boomers starve and be fineThey are literally the entire economy, the stock market is their retirement accounts, luxury spending is the US economy, they are the housing market - they starve and we all go down, stocks-wise.
>>61365505this is what I'm thinking. basically since the dotcom we just decided that printing until the boomers are dead is the solution. we still have until like 2035 on the short end.
So just found out JOBY is suing ACHR. They're claiming cooperate espionage. Between this and the time ACHR put a fucking Tesla robot/car in one of their promo videos, I just sold. Taking a loss after holding for 9 months. Thank you for reading my blog. I'm just pissed and hope I'm making the right call.
The American economy and de-facto stock market is a function of an era and people that no longer exist. Hardworking white men and women who fought and died, toiled for the greatness of the United States of America was who this long forgotten system was for. Our current reality and economic system no longer represents these individuals and their strict adherence to truth, discipline and justice, but to a class of parasite and foreigner. One that takes no stake of it's own to build upon these pillars, but schemes to diminish what remains of the people that built the country it now infests.
I'm tired of this market just giving me a finger teaseI'm ready to go whole hog
>>61365524I mean fair enough. I think it's just a colloquialism. What else do you say when it all drops 30%?
>>61365524>They are literally the entire economy, the stock market is their retirement accounts, luxury spending is the US economy, they are the housing market - they starve and we all go down, stocks-wise.Which is why they won't let it happen. 2008 and 2020 taught us that they're willing to let the USD become so devalued as long as asset classes can be propped up. Since we can't have deflation a multi year stock market crash would lead to soviet style bread lines
>>61365524>We've recovers instantly.love taking financial advice from ESLs. so great
>>61365472a crash would be like -40-50% from ath to low and take a few years to recover
>>61365560Type-o.>>61365524I guess I'll also post a graph.We're overdue IMO, very overdue.>>61365555You can call it a crash, but then you have to say "not a real crash" to let people know it wasn't real.>>61365558Somewhat true, except we're moving into QE from QT. One of the biggest tricks that they HATE to use, QT, is already done and expended because of our current liquidity crisis, and they must start QE. I'll give it some time because it is gonna pump during QE, but when QE happens it's not a healthy market.
pain
>>61365221 >Ran out of dry powder to buy to the dip.Why would you buy when the market is crashing?
lol what if i went all in soxl here
>foid brokernew Jenna?
That feeling when HGRAF is about the only green on screen...
>>61364868 >>61364856 You are about to lose so much money tomorrow.
>futures
>>61365635no no no. i sold. get your ass back down that fucking hole.
>>61365515>i will wait until a 80% selloffwhat if it never happens?
>>61365581Hmm. A scenerio no one here will like. Whatever happens next is a blip on that chart. 10 years from now robotics and ai wipes out jobs and triggers a real crash.
>>61365491you shouldnt have bought them. you should have waited for a "true crash".
>>61365619we should guess her holdings>LULU>SBUX>ULTA
A couple weeks ago I was supposed to hit $1mil in April. Now it's fucking July
lol
>>61365657AAPLELFNFLX
>>61365668Whats in your portfolio?
>>61365681Well that's all my accounts, blue line is total net worth. Most of my accounts are just basic indexes and stuff. My gambling account is a lot of SOXL and TQQQ and a couple of stocks I picked
>>61365650That was only 10 years into a bull market, which is hardly even a bull market. They typically go for 15-20 years. This one COULD potentially have another 5 years but that would make it a very very long bull market. I can buy a fakedip for a fakecrash if it's only 5 or 10 years into a bull market, but at 14.23 years I'm not touching it.>>61365649True somewhat, it will at least be bad enough that leaders of countries will have to respond, not just with MORE INVESTMENT MO MONEY but with a way to actually provide people with goods and services when their jobs are redundant.
Why is it called AI “hallucination” but anyone saying something contrarian is “misinformation”. Be very careful of the language you accept without critical consideration
>>61365668But you did listen to people who said to stop milking a dead horse, right?
Why is everybody suddenly bearish
>>61365710because its over
>>61365710Cosmic shift
>>61365690you would probably like astrology too. i guess print your post out and put it on your fridge and see how it works out over the next 10 years.
I'm afraid to look at the futures, please tell me they're at least slightly green
>>61365710Oh you didn't know??>>61365720
>>61365376Gets me mad that Muslims knocked this shit down and now one is going to be the mayor. And nobody will actually say it irl. I mean, I will but nobody important will.
>>61365701no i didn't see those posts
>>61365690Short term i would think restricting what the robots/ais can be used for and in what quantity would be better than providing goods/services. Otherwise everyone is getting locked into a new feudalism. No room for upwards class movement.
>>61365722i'm pretty sure this is all just a distraction from 3i/Atlus
>>61365732Anon... it wasn't muslims...
>>61365544
>>6136572520 years would be a very long bull market, but I'm a taurus if you're wondering.>>61365738They aren't gonna restrict them is the thing, they can't because AI companies are a gigantic part of our economy, that's why they're moving ahead without thinking about the moral and political and economic implications, we're in a race.A response only happens when it gets bad enough that you have rioters.
>>61365732>Muslimsanon...have you been in a coma?
>>61365753But who let the dogs out?
>>61365732>muslimsYou mean "isreal"is?
>>61365744>>61365764Thirteen hijackers from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Is that not Muslim enough for you?
>>61365727They actually are slightly green. I think we crab tomorrow
>>61365755I agree. I'm still thinking that robotics needs to become widespread before things are bad enough for restrictions. I would have to do some math on the current population and jobs before deciding.30 years from now if we somehow get past all that I actually think it would trigger a new space race. Unfortunately that's what the rose colored glasses dreamers like Musk are thinking about. Not that it may wreck our entire society beforehand.
>>61365768no bro there weren't even any planes it was a hologram the dancing israelis projected out of their assholes
>>61365767>>61365764>>61365744You’re too stupid to see how you’ve been tricked, even when it’s right in front of your face. You cry about Jews, meanwhile you completely ignore the guys point that Muslims won the mayorship in NYC two decade after they attacked it.Here’s a hint: there’s 2 billion of them, and most of them hate Jews. They’d much rather have you convinced it was a Jewish conspiracy so you look the other way when the Muslims outbreed you. They’re more than happy to see you blame the Jews while their numbers grow and grow. And then you’re going to wake up one day and find yourself surrounded by them and realize maybe you got tricked into fighting the wrong enemy. It’s happened in many other countries.
>>61365710Because it's time to buy
>>61365793There's literally nothing wrong with hating jews.
>>61365793why is it mutually exclusive? that hegelian speak doesn't work here.
>>61365710it's over we're this is the next lost decade
>>61365793These people are genuinely unintelligent. You can say Israel probably knew about 9/11 before it occurred, but they seem to believe they caused it. The mean IQ of 4chan as a whole has gone down over the years.
>>61365448You're supposed to buy in bull markets retard. Would you feel more comfortable buying into a stock market thats been dumping for 14 year?
>>61365823fuck why did I add a "we're" in there
>>61365793>>You’re too stupid to see how you’ve been trickedThat's the thing anon. No one was tricked. NYC voted him in. God's judgement is at hand. Let the city suffer. Either they will be purified or it will become an example to all.
A flat decade would literally force me to continue working full time to accumulate cheapies but I’d be set for life
>>61365710theres only so much you can keep going out of inertia. we know most stats are fake but pretended to go along cause line go up
>>61365793>>61365792I’m honestly so sick of 9/11 truthers and edgy zoomers. They just reinvent history to benefit themselves. It was never dancing Jews I lived through it. It was dancing Arabs but even then it was considered a conspiracy theory slur and nobody cared about it. Arabs were the oppressed ones after 9/11 never Jews because they had everything to do with it. The only thing that a Jew ever did was own Building 7 iirc.
> another +0.8% futures, -1.5% RMH episodeN word Friday
im feeling bigly bullish on japan long term. convince me im wrong
>>61365837>9/11 happened exactly the way the official fact checked peer reviewed safe and secure narrative states it didGet a load of this GOY
>>61365829>Would you feel more comfortable buying into a stock market thats been dumping for 14 year?Yeah, significantly better. Markets have lifespans, it's always happened this way.Investing is pilling up capital where people think it will have the most impact, and a 14 year bear market would be a very small pile of capital in place, that would make mine proportionally much larger. As it is right now I'm fighting a 14 year pile of compound interest and I'm ready to miss a few years of gains if it means I'm safe.
>>61365847Woman leader.
>>61365846Buy pre market. Dump 1030 or earlier. Hold to lunch if youre a wicked sick cunt. I'm going to gamble on TSLL again today. Made a quick buck I like a quick fuck I like my dick sucked
Screenshot this.The economy will be dead in the water next year, and soon there will be a dead cat bounce.Buy now, profit from the minor bump, and then save your cash for when the economy crashes next year.
should i buy Microsoft stock for the long term?
>>61365409Kek
>>61365855things still have to get worse before they can get better
https://www.fox19.com/2025/11/20/bald-eagle-dropped-cat-through-car-windshield-driver-says/Bad omen.
>>61365854You dont understand how markets work at all then if you'd rather buy into a bear market then a bull market
>>61365866Literal bear attacks.
>>61365847>>61365855>Bullish on Japan>Bonds spiking>Yen dying >Economy retracted last quarter
>>61365877Did it bounce?
>>61365847>>61365855>>61365893Mind you the best outcome is they will be the first country to>reverse tfr issues at some point unless Japan dies out before that happens >Deal with the debt and boomer question
>>61365879I just explained it, markets have lifespans. You'd rather buy at 1999, I'd rather buy at 2010. It's all about lifespan of the market, and markets all have lifespans.
>>61365818That was too intense
The dump isn't over until all of the bulls have literally (and not figuratively) committed suicide.
>>61365877why is her lipstick all fucked up
>>61365920But then who will give me money when i buy low? :(
Bvll fvcking svrge. Stvpid fvcking bobos getting vppity again. Mvmv ALWAYS wins. SVVVRGE!
there was a legit bubble but it was in nuke stocks SMR and OKLO
Sorry for triggering the sell-off I tried to buyed but got bitten
>>61365905Enjoy not making any money i guess
>>61365803>>61365816The point is, the guy is making a genuine grievance. It’s valid that NYC having a Muslim mayor is bad for traditional American values and the identity of the country at large. The guy himself may not be the devil, but it’s what he represents. You can say what you want about Obama and being the first black President, but blacks were always here in America, even if only as slaves. Muslims has no part of its founding, growth, or identity. Yet here they are now as mayor in its largest city.So when you bitch about Jews instead, you’re doing a disservice by taking attention away from a real issue. It’s not the place to bring it up.
>>61365540>I'm making the right call.why sue if you dont know anything about the actual case? business sue each other on a daily basis over nothing. Even if Archer lost the suit so what unless it destroyed the company.
>>61365668I was hoping to hit 1 milly end of December, its still possible, but looking like April
>>61365966My brother in Christ, if you invested in any indexes in 1999, you would be fine even if you initially lost some money. You are either a troll or a legitimate retard. Just because you didn’t buy in right before some meme shit did a 10x doesn’t mean you lost money.
>>61365524So you're saying I should get into all-cash? I only just bought SPY starting last november. It's not quite long enough to go into the long-term capital gains bracket and my losses so far are not more than I would have paid in taxes to go into cash before this downturn.
>>61365818phew
>>61365971boomer retardwhy do you think there are muslims in the us? they just let themselves in? did you "traditional americans" vote for it?dumbass
>>61365971anon...you're the only one talking about Jews.
>>61365668>>61365983You're hitting $10k before you hit $1M if you're all in on leveraged tech memeshit.
>>61365989What percentage of all your money is in the market?
i demand a refund
>>61365999Checked, but I'm not. I have like $20k in leveraged memeshit
>>61365984You're acting like theres going to be some 90% crash any day now and you'll buy the bottom. Which won't happen the stock market will just keep going higher while you sit in your cuck chair and watch.
>>61365492Powell hour during the Covid crash was absolutely insane I got so fucked in my butt and mouth trying to short until I gave up on it
>>6136600099%, 92% in SPY.
>>61366014NGMI
>>61366030>>PANIC! FREAK THE FUCK OUT. HOW DO YOU HAVE 99% OF ALL YOUR MONEY IN THE STOCK MARKET RIGHT NOW?!?!I hope that helped.
>>61366032We might be at the "return to normal" point
I love nvidia and will gladly buy it when its at its fair market value of 50 USD
>>61365837>was dancing Arabs but Lmao no. I live in a neighboring town and still remember how everyone was fuming about that news report. They reported it was dancing arabs, but the police actually arrested Israelis, Schmuley. They arrested thousands of israelis all over NJ‐ a jewish classmate of mine who started school with us literally that year disappeared after 9/11 and never returned to even pick up her things.
>>61366044
i did the math, all you have to do is start with $1400, make 400% trades 6 times in a row and you'll end up with 5 million dollars
>>61365793Muslims Christians Jews Rock paper scissorsFinancially speaking
>>61366014I think you’re misunderstanding me. I’m saying time in the market is better than timing the market. I think we’re saying the same thing.Sorry if I came off mean or aggressive.
i regret not buying LLY knowing how fat this country is. i am happy i didnt fall for the Novo Nordisk "value" meme because yuros cant innovate at all due to their massive EU regulations.
>>61366044first selloff. outside of 4chan and Indians spamming @grok nobody actually talks about "AI".
>>61365472Market finding a bottom naturally with no government or central bank intervention
>>61365828Anon, they bragged about using ground-to-air controllers to remotely take over autopilots on passenger aircraft months before it happened. They had people in place to film it happening.
I was briefly a millionaire for a few months but now my net worth is down to ~960k
>>61365793everyone you replied to is a muslimthis board is infested with muslimsthis world is infested with muslims actually
>>61366089No one filmed the first impact.
>>61365793
after "they" breached the October low of 652.84, I knew it was over. they don't breach a liquidity wall like that unless someone large is unwinding bigly.
>>61366104
>gamestop>19.94I told you to short but you didn't listen
I hope market makers let it open green so I can buy cheap puts for the mumu raping again
>hey guys, we found the passports of the guys that flew the planes into the towers haha how lucky we are
Ay yo, is we buyin the bottom tomorrow?
>>61366123it's time to teach arab numbers
>>61366105This picture doesn’t make any sense. The total number of Jews in the world is between the population of New York / Pennsylvania; the total population of Musims is around 6 times the entire population of the USA.
Why are the smg Jews so mad? Is it because I'm short their favorite store?
>>61366129I thought Jews also used Arabic numerals for most things? do they not?
>>61366062I did a 400% trade this year. Bought soxl leaps at 10 bucks but closed them at around 30 or 25 instead of holding to 50.
I BOUGHT THIS NIGGERSHIT AT OPEN. I WAS EXIT LIQUIDITY FOR THE JEWS AGAINREEEEEEEEE
it seems that asians have woken up and decided to dump bitcoin, this does not fare well for equities tomorrow
whys buttcoin getting raped?
>>61366166The cycle is over. This happens every time.
>>61366129midwit
I lost all my money in put options and I don't know what to do i cashed out my 401k for this and now 40 years of making money from the time I was a kid to now - gone I only have 43 dollars from 762k
>>61366062Anon, sell me a 400x trade, I have $1400 to spare!
NDX right on weekly MA20
>>61366176why didn't you just buy shares of spy
>>61366176Post folio
>>61366176Why did you do that?
>>61366176you walked into a den of lions with steak loins strapped to your body, I don't know what to tell you>>61366185I think 0dte 659 SPY puts from 675 would've gotten you 40x
>>61365376So how is Trump's golden age going burgers
>>61366175> 5 is 0> 6 is 7> 7 and 8 are upside downs of each other*r*bs are retarded
>>61366176this is definitely fake and gay but on the off chance it isn't, you are fucking retarded so you deserve it
I knew 48 hours in advance that there would be an NVDA blowoff top thanks to retarded /smg/ permabull baggies.
>>61366145>The total number of Jews in the world is between the population of New York / PennsylvaniaYet
>>61366105Dumbest shit I've seen all day. Show me the "western culture" in any Muslim dominated country. I (Christian not Jew before asked) am in a unique position where i interact with jews and muslims all the time. The muslims lies are constant. Their only thought is how can they make you, the infidel, do what they want. The Jews on the other hand never bother me. It's not a race or cultural thing either. I've met other Christians from the same arab countries and they behave completely different.
>>61365793>>61365793
>>61366235Shalom.
>>61366240Jesus is God.
20 trillion worth of marketcap here
>>61366245Look, I know that your hasbara games work on the old timers on fagbook but around here…we know you. We know what you are and what you’re not and you’re no fucking goy.
>>61366252>So do we all pull our dicks out at once or do we do it in order of net worth?>I dunno Sam this was your idea.
>>61366256Why dont you say it then? Jesus is God... i know when pressed you're allowed to use taqiyah
>>61366145>>61366229Kek the Jews have gotten so lazy they think they can lazily outsmart the goyim with such a stupid argument like population size means they don't control our entire society.
>>61366267Jesus is GodSuck my fucking cock you kikel
>>61366145Muslims stand out and are protected by Jewesses screaming "Racism" and "Islamophobia" at you.
Esau gambit
>>61366277You will know them by their fruits.
Christians may not be jews, but many of them are jew-ish, and run cover for the jews and promote their false historical and moral narratives that they use to dominate the world; which is all that matters.
>>61366252Why are all they all wearing the same shoes except for Huang?
>>61366252yoo based
So I started dipping my toes into stocks for the first time 2 months ago, opening small positions (~$3000 each) in a handful of extremely boring blue chip stocks with the following criteria:- Well below ATH- Reasonable P/E- Annual revenue increasing every year for the past 5 yearsI thought this was an incredibly conservative approach with limited downside risk. I foresaw a worst case scenario of losing maybe 10% over the next year. Imagine my fucking irritation when EVERY ONE of these stocks is fucking ROCKETING plus or minus 20 fucking percent EVERY week, usually to the downside, and I am down over 20% on literally EVERY single one of the stocks I chose. In 2 months. Holy flying fuck. Stocks are such a joke of an asset class it's unreal.
>>61366338You came in at a really weird time. I realized something was wrong in October and pulled everything out. I've just been dipping in and out with a small % since.
>>61366338Post stocks or folio
DIVVY BROShad to cut some of my smiggers & Peepeepoopoo but im just gonna ride and reinvest
GoodbeyI am roping myselfSee you next year
>>61366388
I currently need a 10x to break even in my investment account. every day I lose at least another 10%.
>>61366388>daytrading NiggerMax and NiggerBOOST on NIGGER Days net higher profits than the dividends + weekly NAV recovery especially the day before Ex DivBuy pre market. Sell before nigger lunch.
The Jews are unironically based.
this thread is so bad i'd welcome some ai tire girls at this point
>>61366361Luckily I'm still 70% cash, but I'm in disbelief at how quickly everything is dropping and blasting through the floor to new 52 week lows, or in some cases, 5 year lows. I invested about $20k and I'm already down $2600.>>61366377MSFTAMZNADBEGOOGCRMCOSTPYPLOk, maybe not all down 20% but most are hemorrhaging money and most of these in absolute freefall making substantial new lows every single day after being stable for months or years.
>>61366413
>To receive benefits, you must have earned at least $3,000 in your two highest paying quarters combined. I always thought it said "18,500". In fact I remember it explicitly saying that. But I guess after the republicans lost it was changed back to what it was before. Why do republicasn not create jobs if they don't want people on unemployment? Clown party.
>>61366338Im not a fundementals guy, so maybe you have something there with your metricsbut when constructing a portfolio I look to create allocations of securities that don't have my correlation (beta) to the broad market. As you're finding out if the market moves, stocks with a lot of beta move toocommodity, crypto, real estate, bonds, intl stock, different sector etfs, etc can all help break diversify your holdings then put a smaller section into high beta growth bubbly stocks (quantum, AI, etc)just some ideas from an anon to think about for next time
>>61366420Not one of those are reasonable PE and many are/were very close to their ATH just a few months ago
Without jews you wouldn't even have a stock market
>>61366396what site is that?
>>61366408See that yield? Im not a literal nigger who uses yieldsGOY products
>>61366437if there was no stock market i wouldn't be down 35 thousand dollars
>>61366440The app is called divtrackerThis is a full snippet. I didn't include retirement accounts because fuck it its not really liquid.
At the very least I can write off losses on my taxes right?
>>61366463Some of them
>>61366338The real redpill is that the whole market moves together. It doesn't matter if you get 10 different stocks with different pros/cons, they all go up and down together, sure there may be some slight variations, but the overall trend is the same.You only have two real options to make money:1.) Do what you did during a bull market, looking at monthly charts to time long term trends and just being patient. (Switching to inverse ETFs during bear markets)2.) Day trade and take all of your money out overnight and only investing in intra-day variations so that you can tightly control all your positions.The whole year can be divided into Bull/Bear periods, the greatest volatility is in between these times, which we are in right now. Feb-Apr - Bear (Tariffs)Apr - Aug - Bull (Tariffs Over)Aug - Sep - Bear (Correction)Sep - Nov - Bear (Correction Over)Nov - Current - Bear (Tech bubble popping)Right now would be a good time to day trade looking for shorts or get some inverse ETFs. No tech stock will go up for the next several weeks and potentially months. It does not matter how innovative, or how much profit they are making, the whole market is going to go down.
>>61366413Yeah i wouldn't go that far. 79% voted Kamala. >>6136642070% cash is perfect. Here's the secret to a "crash" just keep averaging down in small increments until it stops. Imagine the worst case scenario for trying to gauge how much to do. Like if the market drops 20% over a month you dont want a lot in now. You want more money in closer to that -20. The risk your trying to weigh is actually time. Will the market flash crash like april and quickly bounce back or will it drag over several years? So the amount has to be something you're willing to sit on for a long time.
>>61366463depends, if it's a taxable acct, yes, if it's IRA, etc, noap-$3000 income if it hasn't changed, then you can save the rest of the losses to offset cap gains later (and use another 3K on your normal income again in the following years) until it's all used up
could it be possible we're witnessing an archegos level implosion before our very eyes?
>>61366434AMZN, MSFT, CRM all in the low 30s, and forward PE in the low 20s. ADBE in the low 20s, PYPL about to break below 10 for fuck's sake. CRM, ADBE, PYPL, AMZN all way below ATH. COST is a heap of shit, I shouldn't have bought it, yet it's drastically outperforming PYPL on every conceivable time frame and sitting at a PE of 50 despite growing revenue slower than PYPL.>>61366432That's the thing, many of the stocks (CRM, AMZN, ADBE, PYPL) have been completely divorced from the S&P all year long or even multiple years, yet now when the S&P is dumping, they're suddenly in lockstep.
>>61366477Exactly. Diversification is the biggest meme there is
>>61366477Ok so the bubble is popping, but what the hell are people rotating into? Not everyone is day trading, especially institutions with billions they'd have to get in/out daily. They have to be rotating into something. I thought surely they'd rotate into cash flow machines that have been neglected during the AI euphoria, yet those very companies are sharting as bad as anything despite being at multi year lows in many cases.
Nothing more comfy then vidyaslop plus waiting for nickker fuentes to lay another sermon on the chosen people
no bubbles are popping look at futures you niggers
>>61366545gonna get a hyper bounce tomorrow for turkey trot rally
>>61366519They (me) are rotating into inverse ETFs. I have only a single position in my entire portfolio now which holds with 10% of my net worth, PLTZ. Inverse PLTR. It went up 14% today and I made thousands of dollars, I will do the same tomorrow, and the next day, for a couple more days or weeks until the market begins to recover then I will get out ASAP. There are no stocks that go up in a bear market, the meme that you can rotate into staple goods, or defense stocks, or gold, is all a meme. They will all go down. There is no magic stocks that avoid the dump, just look back at feb-april for confirmation. I don't know where this meme came from but it is just one of those things like diversification which just isn't true.
>>61366545dead cat bounce
>>61366545Up half a percent after hemorrhaging 3.5% in the course of a few hours today alone, with NASDAQ underperforming meaning still risk off. We're probably about to enter a lost decade because I entered 2 months ago.
>>61366545Futures were pumping last night too, it's just casino hours and people making a profit on the volatility. Means nothing.
Keep calm and buy stocks that consistently reduce their shares outstanding
>>61366545things do not look good
>>61366489everything is going to be fine and we're going to be at all time highs by year's end.
>>61366561Healthcare is the odd one out in my list.
>>61366545*taps the sign*
>>61366586do you think this is a motherfuckin game?
please godit would be so fucking funny
>>61366604is this bullish for the yen? I need a strong yen weak dollar
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>>61366596crab
>>61366490yep, correlations go to 1 during crashes, even for the most well thought out peacetime diversificationVYM might be interesting to look into, all equity, but diversified div payersChart shows the last 23 days, QQQ down 7.5%, SPY -5% and VYM -2.5% over that period (same sort of protection during the April drawdown)of course if you look at YTD performance QQQ is above both SPY and VYM (with VYM behind the pack)Thats why the saying "time in market vs timing the market" came to be, you have to collect in order to survive the drawdownsone more random bit of advice, after you start piling in and everything recovers, remember if you feel like taking a screenshot to brag, it's probably a good time to take some profit
>>61366590Looks like it is peaking and the chart is just about to turn over and dump like everything else. You might have found the optimal late entry short right there. You can just look back at the tariff dump in February and see that it does not have any market independence.
is WMT the goat?
>>61365989All cash or things that trade opposite to how the stock market trades, yeah. You can always gradually hold more cash and safe-haven assets. If it's something safe like 80-10-10 you're only losing out on 20% but you're securing not ACKing yourself.I don't know about all-cash, just enough to not get raped by margin call 90% crash shenanigans, but if you just started last november you don't even have a lot in the market.
>>61366572keeeek.
>>61366702people are losing trillions of dollars and you're laughing
>>61366710
>>61366710yes, I timed the short right. how could you tell?
Great depression in 2026
I TOLD YOU ALL TO DIVERSIFY OUT OF STOCKSYOU COULD HAVE BOUGHT ASSETSYOU COULD HAVE BOUGHT A RENTAL PROPERTYYOU COULD HAVE BOUGHT SOLAR PANELS TO ELIMINATE ELECTRIC BILLSYOU COULD HAVE PREBOUGHT THINGS AROUND THE HOUSE LIKE AIR FILTERS/FOOD/CLOTHES/CAR TUNEUPINSTEAD YOU JUST KEPT BUYING SPXL AND KODAK AND SHIT
I'm $200k in TQQQ, do I continue buying or start buying SSO, have $100k~ cash
>>61366710It's just money
>>61366722Calm down fag
>>61366731I'd let it be. Don't think the market is down far enough yet to start using the extra gunpowder