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what effect will the EU trade bazooka have? how many people are gunna be financially obliterated into pizza topping chunks?
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>>61664065
Dunno, but loosening copyright will be funny
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>>61664076
Sorry WHAT
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>>61664109
Withdrawal of intellectualy property protections. I don't know exactly what would happen but it's probably funny.
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>>61664169
So theroetically I could move to the EU and set up a business with stolen US IP, and it would be legal
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>>61664238
I have no idea what the exact plans are. I hope to see a lot of commercially made rule 34.
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>>61664267
You mean r34 games based on popular franchises? Yesh the EU will take beloved american characters and sell them back as poison porn games to the masses
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>>61664169
Wow that's insane. Considering Big Tech is basically just the 90s plus a few generally available niceties this might a solid game changer. Or it will lead to the US attacking the EU.
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>>61664402
One thing I forgot to mention: This combined with the proposed seizing of Russian assets probably will significantly reduce the amount of foreign companies and investors interested in the EU.
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>>61664065
It is pretty much a nothingburger
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>>61664065
macron will bazooka his hole onto trump as he waves a white flag, and tump will rant about hole milk while drinking macrons cum
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Can the EU also massively sell US bonds? Don't they own like a shitton of it?
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>>61664442
It will be a nothing burger because trump will pussy out, but the EU actually engaging in a trade war with the US will make 1929 look like a joke.
Remember that the EU represents half a billion of consumers, and we're not talking about Indians living on 12 rupees per day, this is half a billion of the wealthiest populations on earth.
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>>61664587
That's absolutely reserved for last though excepting nukes
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>>61664587
Fun fact: USA has 8 trillion of debt to refinance this year so chaos on the bond market will really hurt the,, that is why they want to get rid of Powell from the central bank so they can decrease the interest rate
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>>61664411
They'll be pretty understanding considering Trump is trying to fuck everyone
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>>61664402
Retard if they switch off Google and apple we have a blackout in the EU
It's a suicide weapon
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>>61666774
I'm unsure. It's a big liability if you can't expect your services, money or intellectual property safe in the EU.

>>61666780
>You can't do anything against Big Tech goyim
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>>61666808
Does any country even take intellectual property as seriously as the US does? China got away with ip theft for decades.
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Only elites know how to shill to eu. Considering these are tech companies prepping trade war, I expect data security to become a big issue. Most us citizens do not rely on the EU for shit. I mean absolutely nil. Nada. Even the companies importing work here are ass tier slave jobs.
It's an elite slap fight. The regulations don't help either. Especially censorship laws? You EU Bros are being handed an ultimatum between America or China
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>>61666845
Pretty much only china and smaller SEA states don't care about IP. While it's true that the US IP laws are very strict (and also interpreted in a very strict way) western countries in general still care a lot about it too. In general wealthier nations care more about it since it guarantees that the elite will stay at the top and the market won't be disrupted too much. Some would argue that it helps motivating people to innovate but I think it can also lead to too much stagnation. China is the exception here since it can easily grow a lot if it encourages corporate espionage.
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>>61666861
The wealthy western countries are the ones doing the trade bazooka. What's left are Canada, Australia and Japan. Our relationship with Canada will be fine.
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>>61666881
>The wealthy western countries are the ones doing the trade bazooka.
Correct, that's because in the current world economy tariffs don't matter as much anymore. The average joe still pays for some physical stuff, however, the big money makers are abstract and digital. So if you tell them you won't respect silly little agreements that protect the vast majority of US products (by profit, not amount) you're basically making big tech extremely insecure.
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>>61664411
>This combined with the proposed seizing of Russian assets probably will significantly reduce the amount of foreign companies and investors interested in the EU
That's not happening; French companies alone have more assets frozen in Russia than the other way around. It's all show to save face because they're still buying gas and other raw materials.
Ironically, the EU political elites think they're in a win-win situation with Russia and Ukraine: if they win, they did it without the US (lol), so the EU integration is a success and must go on; if they lose, we're in a critical situation and a stronger EU is needed, so pedal to the metal with the EU integration.
Trump being a retard and Vance being a grotesque also helps.
Personally I'm leaving this sinkign ship pretty soon.
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>>61666905
>you're basically making big tech extremely insecure.
Isn't that the point?
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>>61666906
>they're still buying gas and other raw materials.
They passed a law that they can't buy gas anymore, unsure about raw materials.
In general I agree with you that we're on a downwards trend but I don't see much benefit in other countries unless you have social safety nets.

>>61666912
My point was that historically the west cared greatly about IP. This being considered a bazooka makes it also clear that psychologically the EU still cares about IP a lot.
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I hope we get the bongs together this time. They've been scolded by Trump to, for sending an incredible threatening army of 1 to Greenland. After sucking Trump's cock for a year, that fucking kike managed to escalate things with him for the least impact and no advantages in return.
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>>61666915
The US has big tech and big entertainment, whereas the EU has more manufacturing. It's asymmetrical.
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>>61666933
Yeah, the problem with big tech is that you as a nation can't rely on it. A lot of their products is basically just smashing FOSS together and giving it a nice UI. So if the EU can convince its enterprising citizens that this disrespect of previously accepted IP will be long term a lot more EU devs might come and provide alternatives to major big tech platforms. The entertainment sector would take longer to build up (There obviously is some production in the EU but it's not noteworthy) but it could lead to a lot more people feeling free to download whatever they want. That could actually harm the US greatly in the long run.
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>>61666915
>I don't see much benefit in other countries unless you have social safety nets
What social safety nets? My country's social services are near to complete collapse.
My brother works as a freelancer and broke his meniscus working. If he can't walk, he can't work, and they offered him surgery in 18 months. Public work insurance only offered him 40% of his average income during that period, so we had to gather money to pay for the surgery in the private sector.
The retirement age in my country has gone from 62 to 67 in the last decade, and they're already talking about 69-70 for my generation. The same fucking year they announced 3% raise in pensions for boomer.
They've raised taxes 3 times in the last 8 years, so it's impossible to save money for anything.
And all this while my country is growing. What's going to happen when things go wrong?
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>>61667012
What country is that? In my EU country we don't have any of the problems you stated.
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>>61667030
Spain
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>>61667061
Well now I at least know why we got so many spanish immigrants here. Yeah if it isn't treating you well, it'd be better to move to another country.
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>>61664065
What's the bazooka, are they going to dump their bonds for peanuts?
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>>61667061
PONLO TODO EN IBERDROLA Y HAZTE RICO EN 5 AÑOS.
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>>61667118
I hold Iberdrola since 2022, but I think the times of +30% yearly returns are over anon; there's a lot of new competition, and their business has no moat.
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>>61664065
UK was already going into recession anyway so this is a great cover story for our shit government and a way for Kier Starmer to look tough to the retards who still use MSM.
The whole Greenland situation is a fake and incredibly gay diversion.
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The EU trade bazooka will destroy the US economy
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>>61664169
that would be extremely antisemitic
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>>61664065
>what effect will the EU trade bazooka have?
That's a threat, that hopefully won't be deployed.
It means high tariffs on USA stuff, and lowering tariffs on Chinese stuff, to bully americans out of the big EU market.

What's happening now is just dumping some treasures.
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>>61672201
no because it will take 15 EU fuckers to sign onto it, which probably won't happen. These fuckers can't do anything.

This is why we need Greenland, because you can't do anything under European regulations. That said, Trump does not have the leverage to accomplish this. It's going to be embarrassing for him
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>>61674809
>Trump does not have the leverage
What is he missing?
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EU could dump 8 trilloin of US tresaury bonds and other stonks to crash the US economy
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>>61674859
This is like detonating a nuke in the next door apartment however
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>>61674982
as would be the dissolution of NATO, but increasingly it looks like the EU has no choice but to act first
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>>61664605
Reminder that the US is a massive portion of EU exports and pays for every social program they cook up indirectly by funding their defenses unilaterally. Bazooka-ing the US over muh rocks is suicidal.



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