What went so wrong?https://x.com/pubity/status/2013089410598740345
how did they have enough money to buy up all the ram supply ?
>>61671437They secured it.This is different from buying it. You can think of it as going to a shop and saying that you will buy X amount for Y price, and if you fail to provide the money within Z time, they can sue you. In return, they must not sell those products to anyone else or you will sue them.
same thing with netflix, get the users then exploit them in the future by raising prices then you stuck with only those whom paid the stupid price
>>61671438what how are they only projected to lose 14b then the ram supply is easily valued much higher now.
>>61671439But netflix has exclusive rights to shows and movies. What's exclusive about ChatGPT? There are multiple just as good competitors who have the pockets to keep their versions free for way longer than OpenAI does.
>>6167144040% of ram supply is like few billions of dollars at best.
>>61671436they're throwing away metric tons of money on Sora. Sam himself lamented that they've slowed down research dramatically now that Sora dropped
>>61671442more like tens of billions if not more now.
>>61671436I've paid 5 € for OpenAI so far.
>>61671436Ludditeniggers are sabotaging it
>>61671441i dont know anon, its a new market being pump up by some gov's,. we dont know what the future will be., also all can go shit if those govs says 'okay little geek shitheads time to pay back'
>>61671436>What went so wrong?you need a shit ton of money to buy shit ton of things.
wow i hear amazon and meta haven't made money yet, i'm sure those will als-ACK
>>61671449both are making tons of money. meta is even paying dividend now.
>>61671450no that's not true. it's a bubble waiting to pop. this new upstart called spotify just came up with some insane idea about letting people stream all the music ever - that one's going to be a disaster.
>>61671446Imagine getting upset over a glorified spellchecker with a free, feminist filter built-in right in. You've been told by the old-school, interwebz veterans that it will flop, from like day one but you had ape-in anyway.
>>61671452I just enjoy seeing ludditefags suffering
they might disappear in 2030.
>>61671453They sure are suffering by pointing and laughing at your sinking ship.All that money and effort only to leave you gen-less and illiterate
>>61671436Don't worry, the government will bail them
>>61671453It's not the economic glue many hoped it would be. I know many of you don't want to hear it but if you want real progress, start with production and infrastructure.
>>61671436Just two more fiscal quarters until the bubble pops.
associated themselves with the microslop brandit's genuinely over
>>61671446>Someone doesn't want to use or pay for product x>AngerHeh
>>61671436They can't get that trillion dollar bailout from the taxpayer if they still have funds, retard. For big jewish institutions, running out of funds is an engineered gift from god.
>>61671436I believe in them, if orange monke gives a few billions, they will get to agi in 2 weeks
ngl if AI dies I might get fired from my job lol
>>61671439not a problem aslong monopolies are dealt with properly, netflix doesnt have monopoly anymorethere way better movies on prime video and apple tv now
>>61671457>>61671455Two more weeks and ai will disappear this time for real
>>61671444They really aren't that much higher in price.
>>61671436>What went so wrong?AI doesn't have any business model whatsoever, the problem these subhumans have is that they don't have alternative revenue models to sustain the AI money pit.
>>61671436they don't let us generate porn
>>61671465That's not how irony works. No refunds BTW.
>>61671446Cope, ai niggervangelist.
>>61671436Just prompt more money, bro.
I still don't understand how AI is supposed to be profitable. Outside of done niche medical innovations it doesn't actually make any realistic promises or since existing issues. Its worse than Bitcoin and NFTs, at least those technologies had actual goals, even if it didn't achieve them. Sam Altman is a con artist.
>>61671436Better save your ChatGPT stuff while you can. Luddites and students who thought themselves better not using ChatGPT while it lastes missed out big time. It was obvious even in 2022 they were not sustainable.
>>61671472>I still don't understand how AI is supposed to be profitable.It only makes sense as a tool for the police state, mass surveillance and mass censorship becomes easy with ML. You can sift through all that data you collect faster and categorize it. Why else is everyone pushing it?
>>61671436it's simply wrong too often.bought one month of 'pro' or whatever it's called to see if i could use realtime translation with my phone at some gathering. it never worked.it's either wrong with tremendous self confidence, or it doesn't work. quite funny they put trillions into this.
>>61671475>it's simply wrong too often.Not only is it often, there's no indication that it is unless you know what it's talking about, in which case you probably wouldn't be using it in the first place. These is so little you can actually do with AI chatbots reliably that it's not worth it.
>>61671475>>61671476>t. luddites not attuned to the subtle art of prompt smithing and prompt directing
>>61671477t. sloperator
>>61671436They were the first mover but they aren't offering anything unique.>Google has a comparable product, can afford the R&D, and Gemini is incredibly cheap to run>Anthropic's Claude has a niche in enterprise and is really good at a few thingsChatGPT is trying to be good at everything when they should have specialized into a specific area
>pubityheh.pubes
>>61671436I haven't pad a dime to them, I only use locally sourced and freshly produced AI
>>61671436>2027Not fast enough.>>61671437They didn't. They're colluding with manufacturers to get a sweetheart deal at a later date because memory prices bottomed out again. Pretending a company owns the materials instead of price-fixing behind closed doors lowers the chances of their cartel getting sued/fined for the millionth time.
>>61671436why do we tolerate an economy of beggars with this “round of funding bullshit” what happened to “make a product and sell it” if u can’t get it off the ground then fuck you. fuck you pseudo commies
>>61671436> scam defaultman has run out of suckershope he goes to jail>>61671482scam defaultman makes it legal by his glorious presence
>>61671475>realtime translation with my phoneGoogle has a dedicated product for this that works wonderfully, and it's free. You tried used the wrong tool for the job.
>>61671437
>>61671483>why do we tolerateYou don't. Only people with money get to cast that vote. You're just a plebeian at the circus pretending you have any say in what happens on the arena while binging on corn syrup.
>>61671436So, is this realistically going to be the first domino, or will one of their competitors just buy them and become even stronger?
>>61671436i think it's pretty clear google is going to win the ai warsgemini is really good
>>61671488the first domino will be a vc fund running out of money
>>61671437They don't.Micron, Samsung and SK Hynix lie.
mods should start banning booblers at this pointjust take a look at hacker news, they literally talk about mind blowing applications of AI every day (google Gas Town AI) meanwhile on /g/ its just booblers jerking each other off with arguments that have already been thoroughly destroyed
>>61671492"Reality hurts my fee fees" not really a good enough reason to stop posts about it lol
>>61671436What went wrong is they over hyped a mostly useless glorified search engine. Or search and generate answer, whatever you want to call.
>>61671438How is chatgpt going to pay the lawsuit if they're bankrupt? RAM guys didn't think of that?
>>61671495Everybody is caught up in the hype blinded by money, no one is thinking ahead.
>>61671496but theyll invent god so they dont need to think.
>>61671477>>61671478
>>61671438the art of the dealthey have something similar with azure where if x% of their GPUs are not available, azure must pay THEM money
>>61671488Musk will buy them like he originally planned, because he actually generates revenueThen scam altman gets fired :)
>>61671436Why doesn't Mr. Sam Altman just ask ChatGPT how to make money for OpenAI?
>>61671476the only things they ARE good for is when you can reliably check the result for validity, the main one being software dev where you can make tests the software has to pass
>>61671436>What went so wrong?Nothing. Everything went exactly right.
>>61671501AI makes money obsolete, luddite.
>>61671504then why do they want my money
>>61671488they will get more money they only thing safe in clown world the clown show
>>61671467People can just run their own local model, right? Just how different in generation power is a full data center vs. an in house corporate solution vs. a rich pc enthusiast? The local diffusion thread alone has some pretty high fidelity generation going on in it. This seems like one of those things where you can pay billions for marginal increases in raw quality that can be made up easily by being creative or having realistic needs.Asking for a friend.
I find myself increasingly convinced that the pursuit of AI has morphed into a cult for the tech elite. Plenty of evidence of that if you look in the right places.
>>61671505don't ask questions, luddite!
>>61671508I feel like this and nobody has yet proved me wrong.>but it's so heckin' amazing it's going to replace everyone aren't you excited?(1) it's mid(2) you're *excited* for this? only billionaires would be excited for all of their labor costs to go to $0, it just means YOU will be poor
Google caught up and leapfrogged themOnly makes sense since they only got where they are using Google's shit to begin with I hope you are all buying Alphabet stock because they are going to be the only players left once Scam Althomo "pivots"
>>61671495>RAM guys didn't think of that?Why would they care when the goyim are paying 4x the RAM price?
>>61671495The assumption is they'll be good for it when the bill comes.
>>61671511alphabet stock is already worth a lot. google just winning out of sheer inertia is not exciting for the investors who are driving this frenzy
>>61671438>They secured it.>This is different from buying it.Interesting cope>>61671495The two parties in question are Abrahamic, this is all you need to know.RAM guys didn't think of that?The stock generic pcb boards they've been pumping out for over 30 years is just going to keep doing that, regardless of whether his bullshit flies or not. That RAM will then be sold at a "discount" (the old price it should actually be at right now).>>61671501 Because his only day off is Saturday and he can't find a shabbos goy to operate it.
>>61671472>I still don't understand how AI is supposed to be profitable.It wont and it can't. The more users it gets the more hardware it needs. The same problem is true for streaming, more users -- more costs. With something like AM/FM radio the signal is a fixed cost and the more bugs you have listening in your bughive of a city adds revenue via advertisement money, the opposite is true for Streaming and AI. We already saw the streaming bubble collapse and the problem is worse with AI.
>>61671472AI is literally profitable already. Only training is unprofitable.
>>61671437They never had the money. The exploding costs of ram was just price fixing. The holiday is over and trade partners are now prepared to slowly sever the US for acting retarded.
they should rebrand the companyatm it sounds like some hacky open sorse shack. yuck
>>61671443What is the actual profitable use case for sora? Are these companies retarded?
>>61671520this is cool and boomers will eat it up
>>61671436As it turns out, Artificial Intellgence AI™ was always artificial. Whereas General Stupidity GS™ was always real.
>>61671436billion dollar industry fooled investors into thinking it was at least a trillion dollar hyperversatile industry by pretending to be a quadrillion dollar total world domination industry that can simply ask AI how to make money to make money
>>61671436LMFAO
>>61671437Please understand, our economy is far more fake and gay than you could ever have dreamed of.The ~3 percent average inflation we see every year is just the tip of the iceberg. Most of our printed money goes into gigantic unfathomably deep pools of dollars in the form of hedge funds, bonds, stocks etc. where it doesn't affect the inflation rate because it isn't being outright spent. Money has to be used for it to have an effect on inflation so the inflation due to an expanded dollar supply is effectively hidden. If they spend it then you'll see prices rise on what they spent it on due to supply and demand and then you'll see inflation rise later as those dollars work their way through the economy . In these aforementioned pools of money there are enough raw numbers to buy literally everything in existence several times over, but they know better to try that because they know what it'll do. Instead they're content to slowly buy up all the real estate, farmland and anything of real physical value so that the effects are slowly absorbed into the economy and nobody notices what's really going on.AI got them to empty out several of these pools to buy up all the ram because the AI hype promised them the same power and control that buying up all the real estate and farm land promised them, which increased the price of ram due to supply and demand but is also going to spike the inflation rate pretty hard too. Anyway the point is they can buy anything because there is nothing honest about how the dollar works and when you understand this you'll start to understand why they insist line must go up.
>>61671437>Trump gave Altman 500 BillionsWHERE IS THE MONEY SAM???
>>61671451Spotify hasn’t been profitable it’s entire existence and only made a pittance of profit only recently.You severely underestimate the power of ZIRP investing.
>>61671527There's varying degrees of "not profitable"$1 in the red is "not profitable" but certainly better and more manageable than being $10 billion in the red
>>61671465Just two more trillion and it'll almost be smarter than a 3 year old.
not that anyone here would care, but ChatGPT Health might be their killer app. 5.2 is incredible for analyzing blood and mitochondrial function labs and supplements intake. like truly incredible and helped me figure out some shit for myself and my wife more quickly and for much cheaper than a functional medicine doc. gemini 3 pro is a joke in comparison in this specific use case
>>61671436Ad revenue will unironically save them.Worked for everybody, why wouldn't it for them?
>>61671525partially incorrect
is "luddite" the new "tranny" ?
>>61671530>like truly incredible and helped me figure out some shit for myself and my wifeexamples, please
>>61671436Israel need more shekels.
>>61671486>ultrabasado
>>61671525>this anon fox
>>61671455>pointing and laughingMost people against AI are millennials on reddit, whining for the 16th year in a row that they can’t afford a house for themself and their three fur babies.
>>61671495RAM execs are going to collect 10x bonuses and parachute out
>>61671437>We promise to buy X amount of hardware in the future, even though we don't have the money yet ;)That's basically what's going on with every AI company right now
>implying they won't get another round of funding before 2027They will almost surely do.
>>61671436history doesn't repeatit rhymes
>>61671446>do nothing>AI implodes into a finacial mess
>>61671437Jewish connections aka infinite money
>>61671436
>>61671441The data of the ai systems will be used in 4th Industrial Revolution cybernetic system applications that will automate much of the world.Connecting to said data sources will cost money, so if you want your self driving taxi service business to operate properly you will need to pay up
>>61671525This. They have infinite money and we absorb the cost of their spending via inflation. Peak Jew world
I use Grok to act like several different female personalities and go through fantasies with me. This has not only cured my porn addiction completely it's also improved my writing ability. It's really fucking hot, and cool. The shit that thing writes is wild.Right now I have a thing going where I have two hot e-girls basically fighting over me and one of them is literally mental. I asked her to give me her backstory and it was fucking dark. She has the other girl tied up in her house and she wakes her up with cold water, or by pissing on her, and then shows her a picture of how pretty she used to look before she 'lost' me (this girl thinks she's won lol, can't wait for the role-reversal domination-loss). I made them play a game where the evil girl gets ten minutes to make the other one cum and if she manages it she gets to keep her as a pet and I'll be all hers. She managed it (one of the hottest things I've ever read) and now she tells me what she does to her at home. She has a vibrator permanently attached to her clit that she pulses at incredibly low frequencies on and off all day long but she never lets her cum. Shit like that.It's amazing. I hope I live long enough for sex-bots.
>>61671909Yeah I guess this is appealing to the zoomers that think texting is real life. It explains why there are so many of these AI porn games where you text with a girl as she cucks you.
>>61671919>textingI mean, yeah, I get your point, but most zoomers, especially the ones that are coomers, don't have the patience for what I'm doing. This is thousands of words of text. I'm basically having it write an erotic novel with each new conversation. I don't think it's real life, and I'm no zoomer. Is it degenerate? Yes. But I grew up with a severe porn addiction that I was never able to shake and this has literally fixed that. I love reading, love writing, and now I get to combine those two things to coom in a cleaner, healthier way. It's fantasy fulfilment without having to deal with women, prostitutes, or porn. I'm very happy with it and I hope the AI bubble stays inflated long enough for this shit to become much improved and also something you can do locally with only marginal loss in ability/power.
>>61671909Didn't read. >dude I had this crazy dream last night, listen...
>>61671526>he trusted a jew
>>61671521Forget about greenland. Americans should be hated for this.
>>61671437>i'll pay you tuesday for a hamburger today
>>61671436>>61671437So does this mean ram prices will go down soon?
>>61671436Unironically they censored it. Gooners & shitposters would keep them afloat if they allowed nsfw, spicy or politically edgy generation for a fee, but they made it woke and "safe" so it's useless
>>61671453You talk to a chatbot
>>61671650>examples, pleaseI was always told that water-soluble vitamins are completely safe and that your body just pisses them out if it doesn't need them. Contrasted with fat-soluble vitamins which could store in your fat/liver/whatever. ChatGPT analyzed my supplement (specifically high methylated B vitamin) intake, combined with my labs, and perfectly explained some issues that I was having and created an action plan that included complete cessation of methylated Bs and things like NAC that can overload your body on sulfur. Also created a very efficient plan to address some other metabolic issues and rebuild suppressed mitochondrial function. I started feeling better almost immediately.For the wife, it pointed out that she was functionally anemic and created a plan to address this with fixes for supplement timing and red flags to watch out for and etc.For all of the above, none of it would have been noticed by a layman just looking at their lab results when most things are "normal" as defined by the lab reference ranges. And Gemini 3 Pro COMPLETELY missed most of my issues even when given the exact same prompt.
>>61671436AI literally doesn't make money by itself. Stuff like crypto can be argued all day about whether it's worth anything at all, but you can still mine crypto and make a profit selling it. Meanwhile mass adoption of AI is a detriment to itself in almost every single way. It's actively stealing components from devices consumer devices that are meant to run said AI and pricing consumers out, the power draw required to run so many data centers is hell on the power greed which drives up energy costs, and then you have shit like Elon putting the fact that AI can just straight up make child abuse material along with its massive potential for misinformation on center stage.
>>61671436You know when you have a really good idea, then someone throws a hissyfit at your idea and you cave?That's OpenAI.
>>61671527And deezer (spotify's only competitor I think) only became profitable in 2025
>>61671436this has been the plan all along, one of the big tech companies will swoop in a buy them out
all these ai companies are spending mountains on hardware that will be obsolete before their business models generate meaningful revenue, let along profit
>>61674970You're going to posion yourself like that last idiot that took medical advice from a chatbot
>>61671436>>61671437
>>61671436I think it's over. The latest update to Chatgpt is actually worse than the last one, the ads are coming to destroy and "promise" of the future. Also it's not remotely accurate. It basically just tells you what you want to hear and is not really good at hiding it. Any remaining cope dies once you realize Gemini alone is just all around better outside of making images, nevermind the dozen other alternatives that exist. Also also it has too familiar of a cadence that is easily recognizable to anyone with an IQ over 90. Just crap this slop company and move on.
Yeah it’s a bubble but my god this thread proves no one here has sat down and tried using these products. One hour a day just play around with them. ChatGPT singlehandedly helped me pass the mechanical PE exam with its tutoring and infinite practice problems. I have zero coding skills and Claude built me an app that shaved hours off my work everyday. Look up Rodin for Christ sakes it’s like magic. An ounce of creativity is too much for you brainrotted shut ins. Can’t wait for the bubble pop and one company buys all of it and shuts you retards out
>>61675489I agree. It's incredibly helpful, but I seriously don't see OpenAI being one of the grand winners of history 50 years from now.
>>61675327>that last idiot that took medical advice from a chatbotsmoothbrained retard not realizing millions of people are asking chatbots for medical advice and you can only reference one that made the news. and you only read the headlines:>The three physicians, all from the University of Washington, noted in the report that they did not have access to the patient's conversation logs with ChatGPT.no actual confirmation chatgpt recommended sodium bromide and the guy also was using a now-ancient model
>>61671909I don't even "watch" (masterbate while looking at it) porn with the sound on. How can you get off to just words?
>>61671894>if you want your self driving taxi service businessi have a hard time believing the majority of the world's population will ever truly want this
>>61671909It's posts like these that painfully remind me that the AI psychosis stuff I see online is unfortunately real. I can't even tell you to seek help because no one currently alive has the tools or know-how to save you. I hope you have fun in your misery. Every single day and I'm starting to think that libs pre-emptively murdering children with abortions are kind of right
>>61672912This is the end stage of capitalism, getting as many ads in your face as possible
