Is any crypto really being used for anything useful?
>>61673209No its not saaar, buy silber bestest inbestment!
>>61673209Just BTC, XMR and Ethereum. That's it.
>>61673209>fraud isn't useful for the perpetrator
>>61673225this
>>61673225But Btc does not have any real use. Is the biggest because it has the 'name' but no fundamentals.
>>61673295BTC is the first mover and has survived everything. When it comes to an agreed standard and an agreed upon ledger, that's pretty much all that matters. Plenty of people are also developing off-chain and L2 systems for BTC.Think of it this way: 4chan is an absolute shithole that has only gotten worse over the years, yet this is pretty much the only active chan board and it survived. Thus we're all just stuck here. Not being private is also a feature, there are going to be businesses and transactions that actually don't want everything to be private. For everything else, there's Monero. If BTC wins, so does Monero. If Monero wins, so does BTC. They are not mutually exclusive. And as for Ethereum: idk dapps and other shit can be cool, and has a lot of untapped potential even if it is vulnerable to 51% attacks.Every other crypto is beyond a gamble, they're complete scams or a literal memes. Maybe one or two decent ones will come out of the woodwork over the next few years, but after watching this shit since 2014 and basically seeing nothing interesting other than Ethereum and XMR, I doubt it.
>>61673225>>61673295These biggers are getting it, xmr for full private money, eth is for programmable money and defi, btc is not needed.
>>61673209CRVAAVEAERO
>>61673502What's so special about Monero
xrp is basically cryptos only actual cross border payment coin
>>61673727>real crypto>not premined garbage>best security and fungibility
>>61673727The special thing about it is that you can create as many as you want of them. It's basically like fiat money.
>>61673209>Internet money>Fundamentals
>>61673209>>61673219>>61673225chainlink is as fundamental as it gets (blockchain linking) and it still does literally nothing at all
>>61673295You can send energy receipts on a digital p2p network.
>>61673209There is literally only XMR and no other. >>61674776Liar
>>61674812chainlink isn't about linking blockchains, retardit's about connecting blockchains to off-chain data sources
>>61673727NothingYou should ignore it and not buy any
>>61673209XRP and ICP.ETH has utility, but is too slow for most applications.>inb4 XRP is a shitcoin with no utilityThey have created utility by being singularly focused on one very simple and easy process that is very long overdue for an overhaul.There is incredible demand from sellers for a payment processor that doesn't rob them blind.XLM in this regard too.Everything else is total shit. BTC is literally the shittiest thing that exists by every metric.
>>61674800One could consider Eth like a stock in the tokenization business.There are hundreds of billions of assets (fiat and gold) in its chain.Idk about the others, they look like internet funny money to me.
>>61674814I dont buy into the 'cyber hornets energy encrypted bullshit' that Saylor goes preaching around.
>>61673209bumperino
>>61673225This is my top 3 also. It's very hard to choose other long term coins beyond these. >>61673502Agree with most of this, but>even if it is vulnerable to 51% attacksI'd argue Ethereum is the most secure chain even surpassing Bitcoin, both now and especially in the future. Right now both Bitcoin and Ethereum are way too expensive to attack and in a league of their own, but thinking about long term Bitcoin is the absolute worst because of halvings fucking up miner incentives completely. Monero's tail issuance fixes this far into the future, and its decently secure now when its price pumped, but it's still vulnerable to the same PoW attack vectors like bribing and renting hashrate (as we saw few months back). Only thing Ethereum PoS is bad at is complexity and Lindy effect, it's still "only" 5 years old and there could still be some catastrophic bugs or attack vectors that have gone unnoticed. Bitcoin is the absolute opposite of that, simple PoW and has been working for 15 years, but long term it's not economically secure because of halvings and being against any hard fork changes. Satoshi designed Bitcoin to work on transaction fees alone but he made the wrong assumption that blockchains could scale easily. The fucked up fork attempts of 2017 ruined any future attempt of building a better Bitcoin (i.e. hard fork where everyone agrees to the changes). Even before that the development culture of Bitcoin wasn't toward progress but towards ossification, that's why Vitalik's colored coins project on Bitcoin turned into the creation of Ethereum. I digress... from use case pov Ethereum is a massive superset of Bitcoin but that doesn't include any privacy alternatives to Monero. From valuation pov short BTC.D, long ETH.D, long XMR.D.
>>61677218Yeah I'm definitely wrong on the 51% attack thing, I just looked into again too. There's just no decoupling BTC as the market leader. It's hard to say shorting BTC is a good idea when it basically would just mean shorting the entire market. If BTC doesn't succeed neither will Monero, and ETH too for that matter. But who knows. If there's a flippening of any sort at any point then I guess I'm wrong.
>>61673295>BTC has no fundamentalsYet, I earn yield holding it on Babylon, and we even have Ordinals. It's either you're new to the space or you just don't know what to do with yours
you morons are fishing in the wrong pond. CRCL stock will probably rip. if anything in crypto ever gets used it will be usdc
>>61678042Tf is crcl?
>>61673209Yea its completely decentralized meaning no one can really pull any jewish magic without just burning a large supply of it. The main utility of it is just to create a better finance system that no one centralized power can control. I think its just in a weird place were because its so early and the price has shoot up so much people treat it more as an asset to invest in rather than a form of currency which is what its supposed to be. And why it doesn't more in relation to gold
>>61673727Only way for a private individual to transfer wealth across international borders without a trace. Useful to evade sanctions and capital controls.Essentially the equivalent of bearer bonds. Or gold.
>>61680173Is that the famed satoshi
>>61673225BTC has fundamentals of growing 100x and being a marketing tool to invite new money.XRP and XMR have banking use and retail fundamentals.Etherium has retail fundamentals.Solana has retail fundamentals.
>>61673727>>61680197Monero -Drug dealers and thieves use it to hide their stolen money. Who needs security the most? >drug dealers, stolen credit cards, stolen coins thieves etc. >but muh blah international transfer without a traceWhy do I need it if the money is real, wasn't stolen, and its not drug money?>bearer bonds Ah so used by mafia......
