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When we overlay the US dollar index, we see that periods of dollar weakness coincides with stronger industrial production.

On the other hand, every time the US dollar strengthens, industrial production declines.

A strong US dollar makes American goods more expensive on the global stage.

Ultimately, a weaker dollar is what the administration needs to support re-industrialization.

But the value of the dollar is largely driven by Federal Reserve policy.
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>>61717302
>enter BRICS
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this is how economists talk when they mean "we need to make everyone really poor"
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>reddit spacing
>here's why hyperinflation is ACKSHYUALLY a good thing, goy!
Reminder that OP is one of the professional paid shills that runs /ptg/ on /pol/, that was sent here to convince /biz/ that we need to turn the dollar into toilet paper.
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>>61717302

part 2

It seems likely that the Fed will be pressured into cutting rates enough to weaken the dollar.

And the consequences of this happening will create tidal shifts across the economic system.

The Fed announced its 1st rate cut in January 2024.

Since then they have cut rates multiple times.

And stocks are up about 50%, gold is up 130%, and Bitcoin nearly 200%.

While the dollar hasn’t weakened much against other currencies, it is being devalued against real things.

This highlights the core problem.

The US cannot weaken the dollar externally without also weakening it internally at the same time.

Markets understand this well.

So, every time Trump pressures the Fed, the dollar index barely moves, but gold and silver surge.

This represents a structural shift in how incentives are aligned and how the markets are adapting to them.
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>>61717378
Trump is attempting to seize the Fed. His timeframe is until late March.
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>>61717302
The US petro-dollar system exists at the expense of the US economy (the real sector). As long as the global dollar system exists, no one will invest in the real sector.
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>>61717375
>american industrialization bad
the truth is you can profit a ton on a weak dollar, even as an american. american industrialization is how we combat globo homo.
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question is who is running Trump behind the scenes
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>>61717302
Wouldn't this be huge betrayal of the American people.
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>>61717302
Yes.
So what to do?
Precious metals.
Foreign stocks.
?
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>>61717302
Cash is trash.
You're right. So what to buy?
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>>61717302
I voted for this
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>>61717575
Trump was installed by the MIC, segments of the corporate world that don't have legacy connections to global trade (mostly Big Tech), pro-Israel Zionist Jewry, and the American national aristocracy who are at odds with the Boston Brahmins.
Trump is opposed by Wall Street, London, and Brussels.
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>>61717302
Schizophrenia. An overpriced dollar is what allows America to buy foreign products cheaply, which is what the people actually in charge care about; they do not care that much about domestic production capacity beyond defence which is what allows them to uphold the status qup.
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>>61717302
No shit nigger we all knew this months ago. The real question is how do I safely park my cash in the Euro without touching any jewish banks
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OP is probably an Indian trying to sugarcoat the artificial devaluation of the world reserve currency.

US exports are weak and they don't have the domestic manufacturing capabilities yet that would justify boosting exports at the cost of indefinitely decreasing the dollar's purchase power which hurts the majority of US citizens and US stocks + stablecoin holders.

OP is lying
> While the dollar hasn’t weakened much against other currencies

USD is down 50% against CHF since the past 2 decades and will continue losing value and trust (exponentially) if the FED and US admin try to purposely devalue it.

> Bravo research
They suggested buying ETH at 4k+ and their Twitter Account was based in India, now South America.
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>>61717835
Devaluating currency for export competitiveness is a third-world tactic. And Americans here insist the US is not a third-world country.
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>>61717879
>And Americans here insist the US is not a third-world country.
They have never said that.
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>>61717879
>And Americans here insist the US is not a third-world country.
I'm American and I say this all the time. In fact, I've never stopped saying it.
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>>61717353
>If I'm not doing physical labor how could I produce any value
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>>61717523
You can also profit on a strong dollar too though
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>>61717879
What is even the point of this post? That America shouldn't do things that work, because it feels icky to admit that this place is a dump now?
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>>61718871
It works if you want to be poor exporting cheap stuff to buy expensive stuff. Thanks for handling the next 200 years to China, I guess?
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>>61717302
Yes, Ziondonny is in charge of the controlled demolition. Yes. This is not new info.
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>>61718910
>Thanks for handling the next 200 years to China, I guess?
Why do people say this almost exclusively when pushing the exact opposite of whatever policy they chinks have pursued successfully for like 20-30 years?
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>>61717302
I see OP actually stayed awake during high school economics class.
If you really want to know what Trump is doing, read
https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf
Trump made the author the head of the Council of Economic Advisors.
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>>61717353
Yes, good thing you're rich, how else would you be able to afford $5 gasoline, $3 avocados and a $1m 800 sq ft house?
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>>61719131
China did that in 30 years due to their massive population. Now they can focus on being competitive in the services and industrialized markets. How does the US plan to do the same in shorter time and with a smaller and shrinking population? You'll be playing an impossible catchup game while subjecting the people to an emerging economy. If this continues, the US is over and will quickly fall to the levels of poor European countries, or lower.
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>>61719517
The choice is either to make a pivot willingly and proactively now, or to do so desperately and reactively later.

This meme theory that you can grow an entire economy for 300mm+ people with nothing but FIRE, cooked books, and reiterations of the Uber app indefinitely is running its course as we speak, and somebody who can think more than a few quarters into the future needs to do something about it other than build data centers to serve as FIRE life-support machines.
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>>61717302
Pretty much every single time inflation like this (or worse) happened it was engineered to deal with the ultra rich's debt. He's going to bail out all these tech companies by crashing the dollar and running off to Trump Heights in Israel.
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"I was just pretending to be retarded, it was actually 6d chess"
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>>61717575
You vill eat ze bogs
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>>61717302
>Trump is trying to do something that his chief economic advisor, Stephen Miran has said they're doing and wrote a paper about
No way, I think you might be on to something anon, maybe that's why the US trade deficit is also shrinking which is also a core part of Trump's agenda?
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>>61717614
Are you retarded? How do you benefit of USD falls?
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>>61717302
>>61720313
I love how something that is a policy goal and well publicized is treated as a revelation here, truly a board of fucking morons, here's Miran's paper detailing his plan btw you fucking morons

https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf
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Trump is a genius, he's going to make everyone too poor to import anything and then he's gonna open the slave labor factories so we can make t-shirts and shoes for pennies, and with the musk-thiel slave neurochip, Americans will outcompete by working 24 hour shifts for free, their fleshly bodies turned into onions upon perishing.
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>>61720319
Shrinking the trade deficit and reducing the US's debt and bringing industry back to the US you can read Miran's paper on the topic here >>61720320
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>>61720320
Btw that paper was done in 2024 not 2025 as the AI summary states and if you knew about it you would've known Trump was going to use tariffs as a negotiating tool and he never had any intention of imposing large tariffs on anybody, even youtubers were talking about this and yet its existence and the entire policy to devalue the dollar is foreign to the people here, it's hilarious how ignorant /biz/ is
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>>61717378
>This represents a structural shift
not just A but B. — It remains to be seen
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>>61717730
>which is what the people
consumption is gay. this is Brexit for WallE fats.
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>>61719318
implications? >>61717613
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>>61720359
people here just want to know where to put their money
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>>61720532
Why would you take advice from /biz/ though? People here are so stupid that even a well known policy like the one to devalue the dollar which has been common knowledge since 2024 is unknown to them
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>>61717302
wtf how do u make your screenshots glow like that
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>>61720545
because someone like you pretends to be in the know and will let slip their interpretation (when they actually have one)
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It really is the same israel-based shill farm that astroturfs /ptg/ that's now also spamming /biz/ why hyperinflation is actually a good thing. I can recognize their posting style from a mile away. Brb, shorting the United States with max leverage.
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>>61717353
Most Americans don't save a lot of cash and have debt. This helps them. The ones who are most hurt by this are the foreign nations who buy America's debt. Trump's telling Europe and Japan that they're just going to have to suck it up and deal with it if they want access to American consumers.
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>>61720666
checked
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>>61720666
what's your play Satan?
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>>61720695
Nigga, open your eyes. The official Trump campaign shills (based in israel) are now spamming PR on 4chan about why hyperinflation and collapsing the dollar are ACKSHYUALLY a good thing. We're past stacking silver: you should be stacking nonperishable food so that you don't starve to death when these retards get their way. They're crashing this country with no survivors.
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The OP may be a /ptg/ shill as it may, this is still the official Trump position. It has been ever since he came into office. The White House news report a few days before the April crash outlines it perfectly.
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>>61720715
that has been obvious for ten years. it's much much slower than I expected.
there's still room in the tank for a black swan rally.

for hunger to be an issue, a billion people will have died.
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>>61717302

Do you not notice. The Dindex is decoupling from industrial output at the end.
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>>61720799
or maybe you are all just schizo and nothing is imploding, the rotten system naturally is eroding away
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>>61720320
Your children will be blue collar worker and you will be happy.
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>>61720532
And that makes them special how, exactly? /biz/ giving advice to /biz/ is very much the blind leading the retards. Anybody here that's actually made it is keeping their mouth shut because of a combination of the thing(s) they made their money on (AAPL, TSLA, NVDA, NFLX, crypto) isn't making money anymore or they're about to make money on something and are keeping their mouth very tightly shut about it until they're rotated into position.
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>>61717302
Who cares? I hold dollar savings abroad and just lost 25% of its value since Trump in my country, 1/3rd if you count since 2022.
>American goods more expensive on the global stage
Do they? The 23% VAT seems to more often. What do they produce anyway?
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>>61717302
Yes, but he’s devaluing the dollar by introducing African levels of volatility and corruption to America. He will destroy the dollar AND American industry.
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>>61720321
That would benefit rich people a lot
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>>61717302
trump isn't that smart.
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>>61719131
China hasn't relied on currency devaluation since 1994, which was 32 years ago
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>>61720684
I am so fucking tired of continuously getting the shaft because the sacrifices I made by focusing avoiding debt or paying it off asap.

My entire life financial strategy has been a mistake.
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>>61717302
>periods of dollar weakness coincides with stronger industrial production
Except when it doesn't in your graph

A currency drop is often caused by lower interest rates, or market expectations of lower future interest rates, which also boost the economy in the *near term* since it boosts demand. It's not a sustainable method for growing the economy in the long term. This is stuff you learn in macro 101.

A currency devaluation can improve the competitiveness of a country's companies, however the way it works is by lowering real wages and making workers poorer. It's not something you want to do; it's an act of desperation that you only resort to when there is no other way.
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>>61721969
94 to 2008 sure looks normal. hell 2008 - now sure does too
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>>61717586
The betrayal already happened with the creation of the federal reserve. After the great depression, elections became moot; null and void. We are in no more a republic than best korea, but our aristocrat class was much better about hiding it until their kids/grandkids came to power
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>>61722090
Why the fuck would you do that? What? Your boomer dad told you it builds character?
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>>61723075
Anon must be from EE.
> t. Make more than 80% of the population but drive shit car because fuck jews
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>>61717302
>Trump is trying to devalue dollar
It was nixon
>we see that periods of dollar weakness coincides with stronger industrial production.
no shit retard, it's called credit cycles
>reddit spacing

retard
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>>61721969
This is kind of bullshit, China creates and sinks a lot of currency in the form of subsidized manufacturing. Dumping creates an inflationary environment internally and externally except for the products being subsidized such as steel and batteries. In china, tech and vehucles are cheap but housing is insanely overinflated
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>>61724747
>>61721969
Sorry forgot to actually wrap up the point, China is devaluing it's currency rapidly, however the US is matching it's pace so the graphs kind of balance out
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>>61719318
>>61720320
How do I profit off of this
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>>61724782
Buy foreign currency-denominated indexes and US companies that are recieving substantial government support, i.e. tech and maybe even oil at this point. The problem with oil however is that price suppression is also a policy goal of the US
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>>61724782
invest in US manufacturing
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>>61725113
Nah, I’d rather watch America die
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we trying to become china
MAGA will slave away in factories for shit wages
trump is a secret genius

all is good in life



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