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The silver bullrun has been driven by central banks buying to dedollarize. That hasn't changed. Most of retail's buying has taken place over a year and couldn't have possibly sold enough to create a drop this quickly.
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>>61756826
Rich and powerful people decided to sink the price. As to why or how they did it, nobody knows unless the odd insider drops info.

Was is some chink in Shanghai selling off his position after wash trading?
Did jews who were banking on war with Iran decide to sell after Trump denied?
Were the big banks in need of fulfilling their shorts before a certain date?
Fucked if I know. I just want somewhere to invest my money since I can't afford a house.
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>>61756826
>As of late January 2026, silver (\(XAG/USD\)) is experiencing extreme, record-high volatility with RSI levels reaching unprecedented heights (around 95 on monthly charts), indicating a severe, long-term overbought condition, similar to 1980, which historically suggests a potential, massive correction. While short-term technicals might still show bullish momentum, many indicators are warning of an imminent, sharp, and severe downward reversal.
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>>61756900
>nobody knows
It was to cover shorts so banks didn't get liquidated.
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Maybe this? >>61756957
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>>61756826
The same thing happened with bitcoin during covid, it attracted normies at news years thinking they would try something new.

Price rallied, and the smart people took their profits.
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>dip
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>>61756985
that's all well and fine, but the coins i bought 10 years ago for 4 euros can be sold in store for 22 euros today. and higher to individuals because of taxes and premium applied by stores who sell them 30++
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>>61756923
>ggests a potential, massive correction. While short-term technicals might still show bullish momentum, many indicators are warning of an imminent, sharp, and severe downward reversal.
yeah let me just copy for you guys here what AI wrote on this topic.

fuck off this board you worthless subhuman garbage person
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>>61756826
silver futures shorts were due end of january. max pain was $90. 450.000 contracts. that's 2.250.000.000 ounces. more than double the yearly output of silver miners. at $120 that would be about $275 BILLION in cash (only warren buffet has that mich cash laying around) if it were to be liquidated and the spot price wouldn't move (which it wouldn't).
also the fed chair pick probably made some buyers nervous.
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>>61756985
A fundamental supply increase this would not explain a $40 price gap with China.
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>>61756826
Silver crabbed for 30 years so you had people missing out on generational wealth level of gains in the stock market while they stacked useless rocks that were bleeding money to inflation. They took their first escape in 3 decades which allowed them to finally recover all of the losses they had holding a non appreciating asset against 30 years of inflation. It will never go that high again until those who were retarded enough to buy these bags have the opportunity to do so to their children 30 years from now.

TL;DR you got dumped on by literal boomers kek.
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>>61757057
If something gets overbought it will have a correction. You can look for irl events to justify the movements if you want.
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>>61757089
"Boomers" don't own enough to sell fast enough to create that drop, and most sold into the pump already.
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>>61757116
Yeah you’re right it’s actually Le evil hedgies who are manipulating the price like they have been to GME and BBY. Keep holding the line fellow silver ape! 2,000 usd/ounce in two more weeks!
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>>61757120
This but unironically
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>>61757120
Ok, who sold?
>Le evil hedgies who are manipulating the price like they have been to GME
That literally happened though. All the brokers disabled people's ability to buy.
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>>61756826
Literally everything dipped yesterday, silver just dipped by more than everything else because it had gone up further and so had more room to fall.
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Last spoonfeeding post. Retail doesn't move this market at all, boomer retailers have been selling their silverware into the pumps all year.
This is (eastern driven) industrial demand, years of supply deficit and underinvestment in mining versus paper shorts held by (western) banks and metal markets.
Having to settle the shorts, even in cash (they don't have the metal to deliver), hundreds of billions of losses would have to be realized. It would end a couple banks and trigger a contagion in an already stressed (due to government debt crisis going parabolic) financial system.
We're in the end game guys. Expect crazy movement in al kinds of markets, but keep your head clear and know physical PMs are your safety raft.
Obviously big smart money players using these moves to try and make billions will amplify volatilty even more. You have no idea how insane this dump in PMs was, someone was able to "sell" years worth of silver supply in one go, to think retail has anything to do with it is utterly retarded.
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>>61757155
2 more weeks. Trust Q’s plan. The eagle will gorge itself on the orange chicken of the orient buffet and the ground will split and send shivers of mercury through thine veins.

Two more weeks!
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>>61756943
How do shorts/puts having to close/expire OTM create downward pressure?
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>>61756826
1: prices diverged between western exchanges and shanghai. This shows that these two spot prices represent different product. Since globalisation and shipping being more or less non-factors, prices all around the globe are either the same, or exporters jump in and immediately slam their trades on the arbitrage.
So, if you can buy 20k ounces for $70 here and ship them to shanghai for a safe 2x, there'd be someone already doing it.
2: this means we might be looking at different products here - the west looks at paper, shanghai at metals.
3: end of month means shorts are liquidated, or at the other ends, longs demand their metal and go into failure because there is none.
all of these happened in December the other way around. China is pre-occupied with New Years.
This is a shake-off event. We're going parabolic.
This MAY take some goddamn time, cryptobros are used to timeframes of weeks but we're talking another year here. But shit's so broken, we're in for a ride this decade.
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>>61756837
What are those circles at 8am supposed to mean?
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>>61757155
add to this confirmed accounts of smelters refusing smaller lots.
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>>61756826
https://youtu.be/d9NPF0nAnPU?si=6DJokNCHq0aOof9e
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>>61756826
it was last day of trading for the month, so maybe after shorts got covered the squeeze pressure dissappeared.

also, JP Morgan has more silver than the entire commodity exchange market. Then they "predicted" the price was collapse. then it collapsed.
so I'm assuming this has to do with them and the fact that the market is rigged
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>>61756826
im more interested in knowing what it means for silver if the red line is real life
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>>61757289
Who is this Fomenko guy? Never heard of him.
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>>61757120
>hah, if I mock them, that makes their distinctions false!!
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>>61757155
Flak over target, they can’t argue with it they can only ridicule let
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>>61757352
GME going to the moon just two more weeks fellow ape!! Soon the hedgies will pay!!! Keep hodling!!!!
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>>61757346
a russian mathematician who makes the argument that history is just one thing duplicated into the wrong places multiple times (which is why we had 3 different "roman empires" when there was really only ever one)
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>>61757372
You ever get bored of speaking in fallacies?
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>>61757397
You ever get sick of holding bags?
Because you will be soon, get ready to hold those ATH silver bags until 2056 kek.
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>>61757386
Very interesting, will check him out. If you haven't, check out Oswald Spengler (Decline of the West). Completely different view of history not in terms of actual events, but in their interpretation and significance.
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>>61756826
The bubble popped.
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>>61756826
>Does anyone have a coherent explanation for the silver dip?
The thousand of oldfag from /pol/, that DCA-ed silver since 2016 sold their bag.

Thats it. Thats literally the explanation. No "le market manipulation", le "jews", le nothing. You entered too late. Do it again in the next 6 years
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No its not because its "being manipulated", or because of "Trump", or (my favorite) "its the jews". Silver threads have been active SINCE BEFORE COVID on both /pol/ and /biz/. Silver crashed because those anons sold their bags at the same time.

In other words you joined in too late.
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>>61757120
This lmfao. The cope is insane. It doesn't matter why you think silver should go up : it's done what it's done many times in the past : extreme volatility. You're a fucking retard if you didn't run to the dealer when silver exploded past $100. They'll be bagholding for 30 years.
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>>61757402
>you ever get bored of holding bags?
I can sit here and hold bags all day because I can ignore the price and get on with my life. You’re on /biz/ posting fud and laughing at misfortune put in place by a system designed to weaken spirits and create uncertainty. We are not the same.
>silver will crab to 2056
Even if it does it should still stay abridge of inflation so I would still win.. lol
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>>61756826
JEWS
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> They'll be bagholding for 30 years.
Why do the shills think this is bad and wasn't the plan to begin with?
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>>61757474
It's impossible for a bunch of retail 4chan buyers to create price action this large.
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>>61757480
Oh, guess I'll sell then because it does the thing it did in the past
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>>61757484

Only correct answer
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>>61757474
Wrong. Actually it crashed because my mom sold her silver necklace.
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>>61757162
Fuck you glowing bastaard. The USD had it's time. You got to cocky. Keep it peaceful for the rest of the world will you, you greedy bastards?
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>>61757501
>I never want to make money why don't you UNDERSTAND??
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>>61756826
obviously jews supressing (dumping) the price to defend FIAT currencies all over the world, are you twelve?
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the explanation is you guys are retarded lmao
imagine getting rugged on precious metals

institutions were buying them because they were scared the president was going to nuke fed independence, but news came out saying he was going to nominate someone kind of reasonable
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>>61756826
The big banks that kept the price down for years are exiting their shorts to go long, they have no choice with China and the central banks slurping up all the physical.
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>>61756826
Silver is cooked for the next 20 years that was the top. In 2011 it also dumped 38%, and that was the top
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>>61756826
That's incorrect. Central banks were buying gold not silver, but they stopped buying a year ago. Silver was memed as the next gold and retail started buying it like crazy to drive up the price. That was only going to last so long.
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>>61757072
/buy physical assets now!
Imagine thinking the new U.S. Fed chair can thread the needle on short term lower interest on the 2-year and increased on the 10-year due to AI being deflationary?!
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My conspiracy theory is that Trump has refused to bomb Iran and Jews are like, ok, we'll bomb worldwide markets until you do.
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>>61757580
Jury is still out based on new policy direction of the new federal chair.
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>>61757654
>The tamp signal went out
Trump’s admin is 100% responsible for the tamping
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>>61757386
No you fucking twit he’s a schizo who claims history is all the forgery of medieval monks and Russia was grand tartaria or whatever
>>61757408
Don’t waste your time
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>>61757679
but im supposed to believe we had heated floors and then lost them for like 2,000 years until the 1800s in england
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>>61757679
im supposed to believe that currency looked "really cool" in ancient times, then complete dogshit in the middle ages, and then suddenly cool again out of nowhere?
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No retail traders can sell all their metals fast enough in a day to crash the price like that. The only way boomies know how to sell their stacks are literally going to a pawn shop or an "antiques - we buy gold and silver!" Shops.
So the fact that this dip was so obviously manipulated is a huge bull sign. The American dollar is still on the West our. Anyone laughing at PM holders is purely coping because they live in their moms basement and obsessed over crypto
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>>61757734
You’re a moron, that’s all
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>>61757077
China has VAT on silver price. The western pirces don’t have VAT.
Chinese were buying silver in a frenzy in January due to their vote of no confidence at CCP to fix their now struggling economy. Chinese saw silver as a se ondary safe haven since gold was too expensive for them.
Depending on how Chinese react to the sudden loss of value if they start to panic sell their physical silver it will knock down the price even further but if Chinese mistrust on CCP is strong enough they will start buying more and we will see a new rally.
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>>61757819
im sure Edward Bernays has your best interest in mind
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>>61757846
>China has VAT on silver price. The western pirces don’t have VAT.
This explains the gap but not the widening of the gap.
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>>61757783
It's different this time. I don't see a way out of this. There are no "safe havens" anymore.
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>>61757279
Wrong order, they shorted to close shorts
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>>61756985
Miners don't just turn the lights back on and pick up where they left off within a week
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why dont none of you entertain the simplest explanation? the biggest retards inthe world have been queuing up to topblast metals and you are surprised about a dump? a cascade of paperhanded topblasters with goodgoy 10% stoplosses getting rekt probably made this happen. Easy short if you have a lot of money
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>>61757861
>This explains the gap but not the widening of the gap
Price rallies up, gap grows larger. Not that difficult simple elementary calculations
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>>61757907
Then we're going back to sticks and stones
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>>61757970
>Price rallies up, gap grows larger
The gap had the biggest growth on the drop, the opposite of what you're saying.

>>61757907
>>61757982
Valuations are relative. If everything is down nothing is down; if everything is up nothing is up. "Everything" cannot be down. This is what is so bizarre about the situation.
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>>61756826
Not a full explanation, but the government shutdown is related. The same as last shutdown, when they shutdown the government there is no CFTC data for the period, and data for the period doesn't ever come back, even after the government returns.

In practical terms, this means the banks are given a period where they can do anything, legal or not, and there is no regulator watching and no data from the transaction retained. They have total freedom to manipulate right now. Spoofing, naked shorts, limitless positions, whatever and no data is being collected by regulators.

I don't believe in coincidences. The fact the silver slam coincided with the government shutdown means it is a coordinated effort and the US government was involved.
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>>61758057
>Not a full explanation, but the government shutdown is related. The same as last shutdown, when they shutdown the government there is no CFTC data for the period, and data for the period doesn't ever come back, even after the government returns.
>In practical terms, this means the banks are given a period where they can do anything, legal or not, and there is no regulator watching and no data from the transaction retained.
WTF. Interesting.
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>>61758057
Data is compiled on a weekly basis, so that means commodity laws have been suspended from last Tuesday until the week starting with the Tuesday after the shutdown ends.

There might not have been anyone selling, and given the steepness of the decline without any change in inventories, there probably wasn't. The banks could have literally placed fake 100 billion dollar sell orders that were withdrawn ⅛ of a second later and just did that 30 times in a row. No one is keeping that data anymore.
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>>61756826
Some systematically important banks were going to get liquidated if delivery was demanded (which triggered above 90 or 100) the crash was a bailout...
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>>61758112
>commodity laws have been suspended from last Tuesday
This idea makes me feel violent feelings
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>>61758024
Well as I said the Chinese are flocking to silver as a safe haven since the Chinese economy is in dire straits and Xi’s authoritarian stance is not helping the Chinese economy at all. People in China don’t trust real estate anymore not after Evergrander fiasco where people lost fortunes and Yuan is dropping in value.
Currently the CCP is stepping in to limit Chinese from panic buying silver since after all it’s essential metal for industry.
I would not be suorised if Chinese economy would implode in the near future.
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>>61758057
>The same as last shutdown, when they shutdown the government there is no CFTC data for the period, and data for the period doesn't ever come back, even after the government returns.
Again never heard of this before. Any other financial redpills you care to drop?
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>>61756826
>line go up infinitely in an overall normal economy XD
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>>61757933
no, you're right
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>>61757077
>muh shiny rocks will continue to go up exponentially forever :’(
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>>61756826
Weekly orderblock + Fair value gap (suspension block) if you don't know how to read price you were demolished on friday
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>>61758112
>The banks could have literally placed fake 100 billion dollar sell orders that were withdrawn ⅛ of a second later and just did that 30 times in a row.
How could the market have seen (and thus reacted to) that order book but not seen that the trades didn't actually execute?
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>>61758229
For reference:

>The federal government’s 43‑day shutdown — which ended with a late‑evening November 12 funding bill and next‑day return to duty for furloughed staff — imposed a near‑total pause on the Commodity Futures Trading Commission’s (CFTC or Commission) routine functions. During the lapse, the CFTC ceased the vast majority of its operations, including most enforcement activities, market surveillance outside of essential risk monitoring, rulemaking and the production of core market reports, such as the Commitments of Traders (COT) and select swaps data. Only a minimal essential workforce remained to address true emergencies posing imminent threats to life or property. As a result, applications, staff consultations, routine oversight and ongoing initiatives were largely frozen, leaving a sizable backlog to work through as normal operations resume.

https://quickreads.ext.katten.com/post/102lunb/after-the-43day-shutdown-what-cftc-market-participants-and-registered-entities

The only other redpill I can give you, is to read the prospectus on the ETFs. They can settle you in cash at any time, they don't need to make delivery. When its over, truly over, it will play out the way Ted Butler always said it would: paper COMEX price will crash to nothing.
What is the value of a contract that can't deliver? Zero.
The last move that the banks make WILL NOT be to liquidate all their assets and turn them over to chuds holding paper longs. The last move will be to crash the COMEX price to $5 per ounce, with no survivors, then pay you out in cash, at 5$ per ounce while physical silver is commanding a premium of $1000 over spot.

They are under no legal obligation to pay up, and they won't.Don't expect them to be out of moves and go down without a fight.In the end, if you don't hold it, you don't own it, and you will need balls of steel to keep holding when you see the paper price dip below 30 in the true endgame. They WILL shake out the weak hands
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>>61758402
Like this: https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8260-20
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>>61758402
The short, short summary of how spoofing works is this: first of all, the banks have data supremacy. They know how much liquid money you have, how big your order is, and where the stops are because they are the clearing house everything goes through. Its like being able to look at your opponents cards in poker, but they can't see yours.

With a small market like silver they can see that there are a certain number of buy orders on the market right now. And they like to pick a point with less volume and few open orders like 1 minute to NY market open. They know the size of these orders. They know it would take, say 1 billion dollars to fill them all... but once they are all filled, the contract goes no bid and the computer drops it off a fucking cliff (99 billion sell orders and zero buyers!). So they spend a billion to clear out the market plus another 99 billion sell order that is withdrawn in under a second before even another computer can react and buy. The end result is the computer says everyone sold and silver has gone no bid. They drop the market an arbitrary amount to the stoploss point of those 1 billion dollars of buy orders they just filled. Now those 1 billion dollars of buys are forcibly liquidated at a loss.

Poof! They just crashed the market 30$, with naked shorts they can't deliver on, and they got paid to do it.

Its illegal, but the regulators are out of the office until further notice, so they don't even have to pretent they can't see what's happening like a pro wrestling referee.
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wow look at Qui slurped en masse the picobottom who lasted 1mn before the last rebound before close!
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>>61758589
nice find anon
where do you get all this?
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>>61756985
It's a neat trick for sure but one they can only pull off so many times.
Eventually the public and the rest of the world will be hoarding more silver than the fed could possibly keep for themselves.
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>>61758057
This chicanery really is fucking bone deep. Holy shit.
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>>61756826
Same way CZ did 10/10. Except it wasn’t binance, it was tampowitz
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>>61758761
>It's a neat trick for sure but one they can only pull off so many times.
A lot of people believe March delivery is the end of the road. They can't make delivery. This might be the last time, the time they go all in on shenanigans.

IF that is what is happening, and this really is the end, this party is just getting started. With the CFTC shut down for Feburary, they have a free hand to do whatever they want.

Their final move will be to push the paper price to 5$ per ounce, declare force majore, cash out the ETF bagholders at that price, and retain possession of whatever physical silver remains in the vaults. The banks won't be wiped out by the silver price, in fact, they will make money off it. Some jerkoff will eat the losses with his pension plan, not the banks.
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>>61758884
I can see this happening as well.
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>>61756826
Silver calls on the casino ramping up in consolidation with dollar and commodity manipulation to stomp prices back down. Silver has been highly manipulated since the beginning of the petrodollar and even beforehand in order to make sure the populace couldn't withdraw silver and influence politics and the economy. Because God forbid the people be able to control when war is waged and when the politicians should not be fags. Technically the silver to gold ratio should be 10 to 1. So silver would be 350 to 550 dollars today if it was completely unmanipulated.
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one answer i haven't seen from anyone, which is how i know i'm right;

it was Ai
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>>61758770
This? This chicanery is nothing! Wait until they defeate through your sunroof!
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>>61757245
Small retail silver dealers have been getting wiped out by this price action.

I know the meme is that dealers are just grifters trying to convince you to buy their shiny rocks for more money than they paid, but that's not how their business works. The thing they fear most isn't the price going up or down, its volatility.

Dealers buy large short positions to hedge their inventory against price declines. When the market starts experiencing big swings, they get margin calls. Margin calls that wipe out their free capital and make it difficult to get new financing. They quickly find themselves in a position where the bank is calling up demanding 5 million dollar by the end of the day and they no longer have enough free capital to take advantage of a once in a lifetime bargin, like a boomer walking in offering to sell his junk silver at 50% of spot. They find themselves without enough free capital to adjust their position when they need to.

They make their money on the spread, and wild price swings up and down 10% per day can easily wipe out all but the most sophisticated players with deep pockets. Big waves sink small boats.
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>>61756900
>nobody knows
Its actually pretty clear
>Create opportunity for (((certain individuals))) to exit their positions before they get their assholes rearranged
>stop or at least stall the momentum (probably didn't work but we will see how sunday night goes)
>scare the goyim and get them to sell (didn't work for the most part)

If you're not in silver currently this is probably your last chance to get on the boat I expect that the price will explode in febuary even more than it did jan since very likely they will not or can not short it anymore. There are 100k pending comex contracts for march if even a fraction of those insist on physical delivery its over for comex they will have no choice but to declare force majeure and settle them in cash which will completely shatter the paper market.
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>>61757460
thousands of old fags with a cb below 25 sold their silver bags above 100 on the same day?
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because it went up like a trillion percent for no reason
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>>61760711
You dont get it the eu was coming together to DESTROY the u.s dollar and COLLAPSE the united states. It was like our favorite american marvel movie but the people coming through the portals were eu countries ready to DESTROY thanos(the u.s). Silver is the metal in the infinity gauntlet bro.
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>>61756985
What book is this?
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>>61757460
>No "le market manipulation", le "jews", le nothing.
Pay no attention to the person behind the curtain!
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>>61758884
Why March? Full disclosure I'm retarded, but I would have assumed that a steady amount of deliveries month to month, or a steadily increasing amount. What makes March so different
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>>61761398
COMEX FTD,
But since end of January resulted in a literal 30% drop I’d say any fucking day could be it from here
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>>61756826
yeah
jew scum was short on it
they coordinated the dump to get out of their short
now they buying the dip
by now i mean the next weeks
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>>61756900
no one cares about iran dude
you are in their play they show the public to distract you from whats going on behind the curtains
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>>61758884
I don't hold any PM's or stocks or anything. I try to understand how the markets work but get overwhelmed and then end up doing nothing because I'm terrified of losing my meager savings

I have like $20k in cash literally sitting in an empty ammo can, I'm freaking out because I know I'm losing money. Should I just buy silver?

Yes I know I'm asking an anon on a basket weaving image board for financial advice but idk what else to do
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>>61761760
I think silver will dip a bit more before it moves up, so it may be best to wait a week or two.
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>everybody buys into paper silver
>jp morgan shorts it
>knocks paper silver down to 75 then buys it while deleting 2 years worth of silver production capacity in paper silver
or something, maybe
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>>61761860
What is this silver king called?
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>>61756900
>Why
50% of it, at least. Temporary alliance between short banks and swap banks.
>>61757188
They don't, the downward pressure is created because the short trade blows up if the month ends with the price too high outside their parameters. Certain requirements trigger and that's ballgame. Getting it down was painful but necessary.
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>>61761398
>Why March?
You can't just roll up to the comex any day of the week and take delivery. You can only take a delivery on the specified delivery days in that market's contract. There is no silver delivery in Febuary. You can only take silver delivery in January, March, May, July, September, or December. It would be total chaos if you rolled up to the exchange building in Chicago and told them to fill up 20 tractor trailers with the chickens you just bought. You need to notify them in advance and schedule delivery.
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well silver should be worth the amount that makes sense for what it is used for as a material in products. that's probably about $17/oz.
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>>61761935
So does it keep dumping?
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>>61761760
>be me in 2020
>dirtpoor, wagie, no future prospects, living with parents
>sick and tired of my sandwich cost going from 5 to 10€ due to inflation and coof tax
>investigate biz, read up on pmg resources and be convinced
>scrape together painstakingly 3500€ over the coarse of 2 years while making around 19k/year
>gas out eventually but accumilate a pretty stack for myself
>my initiall investment is now worth "21k" (this shit being mereley the metric by which earned me the i told you so bragging rights but its moreso for me not somebody else)
bro all it takes is a single step in the right direction, and yes silver and gold are the right direction. If you are convinced then just do 75% of your current cash reserve to not feel over pressurized and keep on stacking with whatever disposable income you have coming in. Good luck fren
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>>61758884
How do they do this without people calling bullshit? PMs are supposed to trade opposite a weakening dollar. So the only way it goes to $5 is if the dollar becomes unprecedentedly strong. Also, American exchanges can say whatever they want, global exchanges aren't subject to their shenanigans. So they drop it to $5. I sell my shit to Chinese for the $60 it's going for there and buy stupid amounts of imported goods to sell at a ridiculous premium.
This feels like FUD.
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>>61761760
If you have only 20k in cash, I'd focus on completely different classes of investments that reduce you cost of living before purchasing risk to try and grow your assets. For example, look into buying some tools and repairing your own car. You can easily save 3-4 figs a year doing this; tools barely depreciate if you care for them and there is far less uncertainty than any financial market. This also hedges against inflation since the tools will hold their value well. Another example is buying enough gym equipment to exercise at home instead of paying a membership. Until you've reduced these kinds of living expenses to near zero it doesn't make sense to buy stocks, PMs, etc., especially when you factor in the risk and time investment necessary to try and mitigate it. These savings are also tax-free since you are simply avoiding loss on money you would otherwise have to spend. Think of how much and how skillfully you'd have to invest to net money equal to those savings in post-tax gains.
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>>61757654
he might do another bunker bomb but he's really good at drawing it out for as long as possible to make the warhawks loose their composure and get some concessions out of them
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>>61761992
There was another event in June, killed by the company selling into pump. Then essentially a slow downward crab for 3 years.
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>>61761760
Buy gold if you want to be more conservative, silver is much more volatile but I imagine both will go up with one another regardless this year.
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>>61761760
I don't want to brush off your question or just lightly tell you to spend all your savings on holding my bags.

It really depends on your personal situation. The reason we tell people to buy physical and hold it is so that no one can force you out of your position before you are ready to sell on your terms. With paper, and that includes stocks, paper dollar bills, and anything that is basically a promissory note for somebody else to pay, there is always counter party risk--the chance they won't pay. Dollars can be inflated till you only get 10cents worth for your buck. Stocks can be manipulated to sell off and force you out right before the insiders buy and send it to the moon.

So the first rule is: only invest what you can afford to lose. If you spend all 20k on silver, what happens if your car breaks down, you have an accident, or something else that you need sudden money for now. Are you spending this month's food and rent? If so then you are placing yourself in a position where you can be forced out of your position at a loss. You might be forced to sell today, at a time you didn't want to, as you watch it go to the moon a week later. Never go in so deep you don't have money to live day to day or get through an unexpected loss.

Next, understand you are betting against governments and banks that have enormous power. Do not be surprised if they pull out all the stops and kick this can down the road another year. It is not guaranteed to come crashing down in March. Do not go all in to the point you will be ruined if it doesn't.

It is a mathematical certainty that the dollar will crash and go to zero. It is far from certain WHEN this will happen.

That said, if you have some excess funds, constitutional junk silver is the way to go right now. Its selling at a discount thanks to the refiners backlog and them only wanting .999 right now. Just before you buy, ask yourself,"am I prepared to hold for five years before I see a profit?"
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>>61762180
Good advice man.
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>>61762180
>Dollars can be inflated till you only get 10cents worth for your buck
You just predicted that they're gonna beat the price down to 10 cents on the dollar
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>>61761977
Sydney Sweeney should sell me her pussy for a dollar, but she won't. Its worth whatever someone else is willing to pay to aquire it.
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>>61762025
>How do they do this without people calling bullshit?
You call all the bullshit you want. All they care about is what are you going to DO about it?
>PMs are supposed to trade opposite a weakening dollar. So the only way it goes to $5 is if the dollar becomes unprecedentedly strong.
If I sell you a contract for beans, but I don't have any and can't get any, how much is your bean contract worth? Nothing. It doesn't matter if beans are selling for 30$ a can at the store--your contract for beans is worthless. Paper≠physical.
>Also, American exchanges can say whatever they want, global exchanges aren't subject to their shenanigans.
And? Gold-in-muhSacks don't care. If the price on the COMEX goes to 5$ per ounce they only have to pay those contracts out at 5$ per ounce, while keeping the remaining physical inventory.

They don't give a fuck if the Shanghai price goes to infinity and beyond, so long as they exit their American contracts denominated in dollars at a profit.
>So they drop it to $5. I sell my shit to Chinese for the $60 it's going for there and buy stupid amounts of imported goods to sell at a ridiculous premium.
If you hold physical, then yeah, do that. If you hold a paper futures contract, what is it worth after it defaults? About as much as confederate war bonds and imperial Chinese railroad bonds.
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so pet rocks shut down the government and basically you're stupid
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>>61756826
Simon Michaux in this interview has an explanation. Strap in, the price of silver is going higher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gN4D4YaMUk
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>>61762284
I don't think you understand. A 500-1000% premium is the end of America's silver reserves. That's the end of the American economy. It is no longer a choice at that point to sell every ounce of physical abroad, which means industrial breakdown and possibly hyperinflation. Whatever the bankers want, the politicians who don't want a complete collapse on their watch have the power to shut down the markets; they have the power to march agents (some armed) into the building and flip the freeze switch. Banks do not want that, because then it's all eyes on them and all mics in their faces asking how we got into this situation.The worst part is that they never get it anywhere near $5; every massive dump is bought up, stalling the move.

It's funny that you use that gif, because as much as it looked like they fucked everyone sideways, they ultimately pulled their punches in exchange for the government not reaming them, and the public anger only reaching "OWS" levels. Because if they decide to go all in? If they manage it? If the machination is total ruination of the US economy to save a few banker asses, what ARE people going to do about it? I'll tell you. It's mutual escalation until bankruptcy and a short prison stint seem like a deal, in post-Mangioni America.
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>>61762373
why would they want to crash the econommmeeeeeee?? this is a silber thread!!! ahhhhh!! is 25% pm a good positon?
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Do the people saying this was retail selling not understand how little money retail has in the grand scheme of things? There are literally zero markets that retail can have this kind of impact on lol

It's the most retarded financial argument I've heard since listening to BNN during the 2008 crisis.
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>>61762383
>I don't think you understand
Here is the hypothetical scenario I am discussing, and its not certain we are there yet:

The jig is up. The music has stopped. The largest banks in the country have massive precious metals short positions. The counter parties are demanding delivery and they have no possibility of coming up with enough metal to make good on their contract.

At this point they have two options:
#1 come clean, deliver whatever metal they have, sell all their assets to try to pay back as much as they can, declare bankruptcy, apologize to the public, and start over again as a fry cook at Arby's.

Or, option #2: fuck em'. They have no legal obligation to deliver metal. They can close out the positions for their cash value at any time. If they close those positions at $500 an ounce, the losses will exceed the value of their firms. If on the other hand they push the paper price as low as it will go before they default, they can close those positions at a profit. Then the physical price will shoot to the moon as they remain in possession of whatever is in the vault.

Based on their previous actions during other financial collapses, I'm guessing they will take the second option. If you think the politicians won't let it happen, that they'll act to protect the little guy and force the elites to take responsibility for their actions--okay, you have more faith in humanity than me. I think when this plays out the rich will stay rich and the poor will get fucked even harder than usual, but we'll see.
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>>61762575
>Based on their previous actions during other financial collapses [...]
What I'm saying is that the 2nd option is not a mandate, it's a process.

First, they have to actually drop the price. Yes, lacking official institutional oversight makes this easier; it does not make it a given. Anything they do to make it happen has knock-on effects, pulling more eyes and more pressure to make them stop, and possibly to find extraordinary means to hold them accountable. They are also fighting massive dip-buying and presumably institutional responses (if we know what's going on, they know what's going on).

Finally, if they pull it off, what then? That's not the end of it. They face public backlash, at the very least. Possibly official censure and prosecution. Not all of them can just hop on a plane to their compound in New Zealand; some of their names will be known. And their addresses. There is not enough security if it's all-hands-on-deck. If they escape the immediate threats, they are persona non grata. They will live under vendetta.

The reason that what they managed last time was possible at all is because they did it quickly and quietly, and when they were pulled into meetings with officials who had personal incentives to throw they book at them, they successfully negotiated forgiveness (and later advantageous coverage and interference when OWS threatened retribution). This time, they might be able to do it somewhat quickly, but they cannot do it quietly, and the scope of what they'd be attempting puts them in direct opposition to the

They know this. They might try anyway. It would be a very dumb idea. Their best bet is doing just enough to pack it up and go home in a bankruptcy that doesn't leave them liable. They can at least claim that it was out of their hands. But I think they know it's over. "Don't you see? This is it," as it were.
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>>61762749
*direct opposition to the interests of the people who have to give them the okay in order to walk away without their pound of flesh.
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>>61756826
>coherent explanation for the silver dip?
big money owns the exchanges and sees all the orders for buying and selling. They see who and how much money is flowing in and out and understand the momentum and the price surges they play into it to drive prices higher then when momentum slows they they short to drive the price down and trigger stops (which they can also see - they own the data systems for buying and selling or buy data from those who run the systems) to drive the price down more as it triggers a cascade of selling, then they buy back at low prices and set up to do it again. When the Hunt brothers cornered the silver market the people for ran the markets forced the Hunts to sell after they bought short positions and make fortunes while bankrupting the Hunts. Its a rigged game.
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>>61756826
Silver is massively overvalued. I wouldn't pay more than $20 an ounce for silver, so the market price is dropping back down to meet my bid where I will start buying silver and bring support to the market price at $20.
This is my world and you are just living in it.
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>>61762805
based
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>>61756826
PAPER IS DEAD!

Get it through your thick skulls
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>>61756985
This COMPLETELY ignore the refining bottleneck.
Refiners are backlogged for months.

Silver =/= mine to market, the refineries are the weakest link.

God there’s so many tourists in PMs at the moment.
Please do more research.
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>>61757653
Pic attached is front page article in financial times weekend paper on the new fed chair Warsh. This feels like an establishment counter attack to metals run up and actual large scale sentiment question the use of metals again in terms of monetary assets.

The statement in the pic attached about Warsh believing QE is a mistake is interesting. At this I don't think it maters. I think we're too far gone why I like metals.

Movement in the treasury yields will be interesting. Borrowing costs for the US debt is a battlefield to watch too,
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>>61762941
USA is cornered.

There’s nothing they can do.
The BRICS will keep accumulating gold especially, but also Silver, for use in their Digital superhighway settlement system.
1st mistake: The US gave away it’s manufacturing power
2nd mistake: The US has given away its financial power the moment it and Europe seized Russian assets with Ukraine War. 3rd mistake: Tying political powers like embargo’s and sanction into the US dollar in the first place.

The Gold corridor will permanently lock up in values 40% of the world above ground gold, and that figure will expand as the payment system expands.
The USA makes nothing, its main export are political ideologies the ready of the world doesn’t want.
So we have a situation where the worlds manufacturers are all agreeing in a payment system back by gold which deliberately excludes the USA.
The US is in a lot of trouble, once COMEX is dead in the PM space, CHINA will control global price via HK and Shanghai.
It will use the payment system to not only choke the dollar but peel away allies like Australia, Japan and S Korea by forcing them to transact in the UNIT payment system.

The more JPM and the Comex fight and tamper the price of PMs the quicker and more hostile their extinction will be.

The price of Gold is going to skyrocket like modern history has never seen. It will dwarf anything seen in the 20th century and the Unit gold corridor system will suck up every once of gold being mined globally, industry will have to fight for the scraps on the Chinese exchange.

The USA can’t stop this. It’s the boy with his fingers in the dyke.
Paper is dead.
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>>61762764
COMEX changed the rules on them, they didn't just short them. And then they successfully cast them as villains so that public opinion wouldn't force any real investigations into the exchange's fraud.
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Tightwads are manipulating the market.
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>>61762996
Appreciate the reply. Respectfully:
1) who is writing about this gold highway? Do you source official BRICs documents? Or financial institution documents?

2) Is there data showing decreasing COMEX volumes? Or is that your expectation due to how things will unfold?

3) Do you have price targets for gold in the short term (year) and midterm in support of the thesis? Long term I don't think there is as much to debate regarding gold => higher prices. But the path to get there in the nearer term is more unclear. But I see you have a chain of events and restructuring of global capital flows as a materialization of how things unfold.

4) What are your thoughts on US borrowing costs then? You're saying they increase? What I'm confused by is if Warsh is more orthodox and stricter on inflation, doesn't that imply higher interest rates?
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>>61756985
agree with >>61760768 need book and more context.
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>>61763104

I’m about to board an airplane but will reply when I land.

Quick response:
1. Google search MBridge, BRICS UNIT, founding countries are Saudi Arabia, Thailand, China and UAE. Gold sellers often refer to the structure in talking head interviews with money channels. Will come back with written sources Re: gold reserves of 40%

2. Comex silver volumes have been decreasing due to impact of on going demands for delivery and bottleneck of supply.

3. Because all PMs are in price discovery
Projections are wildly varied. Even experts are reluctant to name a figure. As such rely on the GSR and historical ranges for silver, with gold who knows? Its demand from central banks is insatiable.

4. I concur with you there, it’s reasonable to expect traditional thinking will lead to higher rates. That says trying to predict US direction at the moment is a crap shoot.
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>>61757239
8am is market open. Prices dropped at 10am both times.

tmi; hurr durr im retarded: the banks nuked silver price to pull out of shorts.
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>>61758589
>wow look at Qui slurped en masse the picobottom who lasted 1mn before the last rebound before close!

I put this and your pic into gemini and heres what i got:

This screenshot captures an intense moment in the silver market as of January 31, 2026. The first image details a theory of market manipulation, claiming institutional players "crushed momentum" by spending heavily to drop prices, wiping out retail investors who bought during a period of "FOMO". The author argues that silver’s finite nature, coupled with massive "explosive" derivative obligations, is creating a "hot potato" effect where banks will eventually turn on each other as physical supply fails to meet paper promises.

The second image, a COMEX delivery report from January 30, 2026, provides the data for this claim. It shows JP Morgan Securities "stopping" (taking physical delivery of) 633 contracts at a settlement price of $78.29. This price represented a "picobottom"—a sharp, short-lived low before a rebound. In total, the report shows 2,514 contracts (over 12.5 million ounces) moved toward delivery in January alone, signaling a massive drain on physical warehouse stocks.
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>>61762996
>>61763217
>USA is cornered. It's over. America is done, finished.
>Proceeds to list a bunch of problems that have existed for 20 years already and are now actually in the process of being reversed.

Anyone who thinks Warsh will raise rates is not a knowledgeable person.
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>>61756826
Comex increased margin requirements several times. It worked in 2011 and worked today. That's all there is to it. It ofcourse doesn't fix supply deficits and hasn't stopped eastern flow. It will get tourists out and the soft hearted at the very least.
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>>61763345
next in the same conversation ask gemini to explain the from the ground up how the relationship between physical delivery and paper contracts or derivative contracts plays into this.
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>>61763104
Fed only affects short term borrowing rates, long term is market driven and that effects everyone else's borrowing rates. Fed has limited control on anything, if confidence is lost elsewhere it doesn't matter much what they do.
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>>61763419

You are telling me JPMorgan demanded physical delivery of 12% of the COMEX inventory at the very bottom of the 30% drop? Typical delivery requests for physical in January are 1-2 million ounces. Not the 12 million JPM jut demanded. What will happen in March?
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>>61757072
>450,000 contracts
>2,250,000,000 ounces
that's 5,000 oz a contract. that'd be a standard contract. there are mini and micro contracts for 2500 and 1000 oz. are you sure the 450,000 contracts were all standard 5,000 oz?
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wtf silver is trash. terrible investment.
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>>61763427
>>61763392

Warsh has spoken against the psat QE polices and the growth of the fed balance sheet of treasury holdings. Therefore it could reasonably be said that there is the risk of efforts to conduct QT which would have upward pressure on the overall yield curve.
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>>61763465
I have seen so many 1pbti shills like this on /biz all day long in every single thread talking about pm, and especially silver. What the fuck is up with that?
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>>61763471
idk, we probably have actual jobs and can't post on 4chan all day
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JPM just DEMANDED PHYSICAL DELIVERY of 12% of the entire COMEX silver inventory at the picobottom price of $78. Pic rel. Read AI slop below how to verify data yourself:


1. Where to Find the Official Reports
To verify these numbers yourself, follow these steps:

Visit the CME Clearing Page: Go to the CME Group Delivery Reports section.

Locate "Metals Issues and Stops": Look for the report titled "DLV615-T: Metals Issues and Stops Report". This is the public record of every firm that either issued (sold) or stopped (bought for delivery) physical metal contracts.

Select the Correct Date: Ensure you are looking at the report for Business Date: 01/30/2026.

2. Data Verification (Direct Matches)
The report for that day confirms every circled figure in your image:

Contract: February 2026 COMEX 5000 Silver Futures.

Settlement Price: $78.290000000 USD.

JP Morgan Securities (Firm 661): Officially "stopped" 633 contracts on this date.

Month to Date (MTD): The report confirms the total for January 2026 reached 2,514 contracts.
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>>61763497
this is good because this creates scarcity
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>>61763497
I hope it bounces so I can sell into it
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>>61763392
Things (viewed as problems) that haven’t existed for 20 years.

> gold backed BRICS payment rails.
> Comex silver reserve issues and unseen physical demand
> Price discovery on PMs

Other US political stuff.


You sir are a cretin and a dottard. Go take your mental health medication and go back to basket weaving.
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>164 explanations of why a by product of mining for metals people actually want that has hockey sticked based on asian speculation and the usual suspect westerners has crashed from its +20% in the first month of 2026 all time high
it's baffling, who could have predicted this. i'm sure a cabal of naughty people are totally responsible and not the people buying minerals based on speculation on the internet (a place renowned for its quality investment advice.
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>>61763217
The Western media are saying that the gold backed unit is going to be only 40% backed by gold potentially. There is a lot of speculation it will be a sort of CBDC, so digital currency.
Also I think $300 silver USD and $10,000 gold USD.
We are gonna nuke the asshole outta Iran. FUCK THOSE PICKLE SMOOCHERS and when we do gold is going to THE FUCKING MOON!!!
Everyone will want to get on USAs dick to suck the gold outta it, like the filthy diseased foreign slurs they are
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>>61756826
It rose too high too fast, $90 should have been support, now ~$65 is on the table. But it might also go up again.
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>>61763548
>The Western media are saying
yea we're hearing nothing but speculation of a brics currency that sees silver at $300. it's all over every front page. no one is talking about anything else whilst queuing up to pile into this valuable asset.
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>>61763560
I don’t really give a fuck about BRICS currency, I was replying to the anon that naively thinks China India and other miscellaneous shitholes won’t try and rob and backstab each other by currency manipulation.
Other anon made out it’s 100% gold backed it is, not even half the remainder is backed by their own shitty currencies. I mean who the fuck wants rupees?
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>>61763548
btw hilarious attempt to try and prop up your usd currency reserves. sell some internet addled incel all the shit silver you can't sell for love nor money and get his lovely dollars in return. plus the double propaganda win of us bad because need to buy silver + us bad because silver is worthless. it's a nice angle though.
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>>61763573
Outside of industrial demand, silver is a little worthless. The only country talking about using it to back their currency is India. And again who the fuck wants rupees and if it’s backed by silver instead of gold, that’s fucking retarded.
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>>61757077
Hey moron, have you considered there is a thing called TIME ZONES and China trading was closed on Friday, right when the price tanked hard during US trading hours? My ETF positions on metals still show 5 pm GMT prices which were higher at the London close. I say, you metal fags come up with the dumbest excuses to justify your shit investing decisions.
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>>61763586
hey retard. what do you think the USD was backed by prior to the 70's? and why else do you think the currency, now fiat, lost its whole ass after they went off the bullion standards? use your fucking brain.
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>>61763497
So they managed to crash the market by shorting only with 5000 contracts?
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>>61763857

No, they just went long after demanding delivery on 12% of the entire COMEX silver inventory one month before March, which is supposed to be the MORE active month for physical delivery demand. In a typical January, only 1-2 million oz are demanded for physical. JPM just demanded 12 million. There are 102 million in the vault. A 12% inventory demand by one entity, in one month.
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>>61763866
I still dont understand how that caused a massive sell off
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>>61763877

No, they timed their trade to execute just before market close for the weekend. The sell off was either what they were waiting for, or engineered to allow the early fish to get their hands on real deal assets before the paper game blows up in everyones face due to persistent Chinese arbitrage slurping.
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>>61763885
I heard on march there's open interest in comex delivery of 470 million ounces
Wjat will happen?
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>I mean who the fuck wants rupees?
Link.
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>>61763895
Yes
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>>61763729
>>61763847

Pay close attention anons.

Look at the time and language of these two posts.
This is the same anon on a dynamic IP
Be very careful what you read here, there is active FUD and bad actors.
Be vigilant and DYOR on places outside of this detestable board.
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meme shittification, rally got ballooned with retail retards jumping in being hyped up comparable to a shitcoin, the core of the rally was supply constrained which then got this whole goldbug "muh dollar going to zero!! BUY PM NOW", you even got this ai shitty voice being spammed everywhere talking about it.

institutional investor took profits while cashing in on their sweet, sweet puts.
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>>61764517
Retail has no influence on the market, stupid nigger shitcoiner.
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>>61764529
So buying silver doesn't actually end the fed?
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Should I sell my HL shares now to stop further losses or should I hold on the off-chance this thing rises to a new normal, beyond its old record (in 1987)?
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>>61764535
It’s a misnomer. Retail won’t move that dial like whales and banks can, but at the same time the people who hold physical are immune to being priced out and when people realize the vaults are empty suddenly the people who hold physical are wealthy indeed.
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>>61764581
There is still a physical shortage. Fundamentals remain intact. There was a big paper dump to cover paper shorts, that has nothing to do with miners in the long term
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>>61764594
I'll hold. Is there any value once they get back to work and reserves start rising? Surely their fundamentals can't justify a 6x increase long-term, no?
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>>61756826
american 'paper' shenanigans, real nigga economy was just fine.
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>>61757155
>in the end game guys
Not really, at the end of the day this wasn't some magical sell off, some magic man market maker got the call and typed in some numbers and voila, the shorts expires, premiums.lost, lots of new bag holders created and the timeline moves on.
Its exactly like Bitcoin manipulation, gold, etc etc...
They can do this forever....
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>>61757460
You imagine retail sold enough coins all at once at the local pawn shop huh?

Sure.
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>>61764638
No they can't retard. If someone stands for delivery on COMEX you need to deliver the physical. Silver is being bought for industrial demand and Gold is Tier 1 High-Quality Liquid Asset (HQLA) according to Basel 3 accords, for which you need to have the physical if the buyer demands delivery. Just kys yourself you stupid fuck.
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This JP Morgan?
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>>61763497
>Historic paper short seller is now long on physical
>Main mechanism of price suppression is not just gone, they're buying
Holy fuck where do we go from here
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>>61756900
>Did jews who were banking on war with Iran decide to sell after Trump denied?
Most probable.
Epstein's acts came out the same day.
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>>61764670
Whatever schizo.
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I've been telling my best friend from the military that he should buy physical. Hes an engineer and smart but he acts like hes a pro stock trader. Not only did he only buy SLV, he got spooked by the selloff and sold..
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>>61763497
On the row and looking at the columns it says issued:633 and stopped:147
so wtf they sold more than bought? This is a contradiction what you are saying.
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>>61764749
Pretty soon we’ll be using PAPER SILVER to power appliances after all :^)
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>>61756826
You got rugged in a classic pump and dump where they convinced you to buy something they owned significant amounts of and then they dumped it on the market when they were satisfied with the potential profit.
If the media and other groups are pushing an investment as being profitable then you're likely being scammed and you're a fucking rube for jumping on the retard wagon.
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>>61756826
Also, you think they're going to dump the dollar for precious metals and go back hundreds of years in terms of how they do business? How does that work, exactly? Everyone carries a bag of silver to the supermarket to buy groceries and has a big safe filled with gold in their houses?
Are you people for real?
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>>61756826
sell the news event on fed fag appointment. He's also a more hawkish character than anticipated, so it strengthened the dollar and forced an assessment of the inflation, safe haven narrative. People have to re-assess over the weekend.
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>>61765049
>>61765038
this retard has 0% of surviving whats coming
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>>61764680
Well, they're trying to go long.
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>>61764517
The dollar WILL go to zero but not in the way most normbots think and holohaux rats are selling.
As most should know already CBDC is being rolled out, once CBDC is the norm, fiat (AKA dollaridoos et al) is as good as dead.
In the case of CBDC, you most definitely want SOME PMs, just in case for whatever the fuck else this might ensue.
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>>61765038
>they convinced you to buy
Could you provide an example of a mainstream news article advising people to buy silver? All I've seen, the entire way up, are articles telling people its over and they should sell now.
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>>61763866
does that mean Im on the same side of the price as JPM? Not a bad gamble, if you ask me
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Gold and silver have been exploding in value for months now, the correction was a matter of time and this is it. Gold is still ~$4900/oz as of this post when not long ago it was barely ~4k. Now BTC, that's been good fun watching it crash. Might buy in again if it goes below $70k but I don't see that happening, at least not with the climb to back over $100k taking years.
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>>61765298
I'll just kill people like you wandering around with their bags or doubloons.
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>>61765693
Time out, enough with the poorfag seethe. That attitude is going to get you killed young man.

You need to be stacking your own treasure right now and that includes loyal friends, you aint ready for what Shlomo and the boys are about to unleash on your goy ass.

This is your man Shaquille O'neil and you read this post in my voice.
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>>61757846
Europa has vat on silver retard
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>>61765741
Why bother? I'll just club you over the back of the head and take your bag. Whatever the fuck you're talking about sounds like too much effort.
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>>61765774
Europe has VAT on fucking everything.
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>>61757289
Civilizations rise and fall in cycles governed by the genetics of the population.
If were to travel 300,000 years into the past before any complex civilization emerged, we would see a distribution of envrionments across earth.
These environments are natural, base environment specific to that geographical place. Selection pressures come with these envrionments. In some places, the envrionment creates selection pressures conducive to promoting civilization-building traits like intelligence, curiosity, impulse control.

This is why africa is a shithole, and europe is the cradle of high technology. I'm not here to argue superiority.

But, civilization itself distorts the selection pressures of the natural environment, because civilization is an environment itself. What would naturally be harsh Darwinian selection pressures that select for eugenic traits are relaxed; e.g. trade routes reducing the effect of famine, aqueducts alleviating drought. Sometimes, civilization creates actively dysgenic selection pressures through welfare; money is taken from successful people and given to diseased stupid people out of pity.

The technology available to a civilization doesn't need to be that advanced. Romans and prior had access to the technology above.

To keep things short, these dysgenic selection pressures erode the genetic quality of the population. The systems and institutions set up by superior long dead men continue to lower the quality of the population's genetics. Complex civilization has momentum, the result is a population with far worse genes that the population that created the civilization. This causes a "dark age". See post Rome, post bronze-age Greeks.

The exact cause of death for each civilization is usually a newer civilization with a population who's genes have not been exposed so long to complex civilization and so are able to outcompete the diseased older one. Other times literal disease can cause plagues. But the cause is dysgenics.

pic tl;dr
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>>61765875
The EU makes more money from fining american tech companies than taxing native European tech companies.
The only thing Europe leads the world in is regulation.
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>>61761760
get a home and mortgage
dollar cost average into have cash/precious metals/stock index funds in equal amounts.
It doesn't matter if you have some cash if you have a mortgage because the mortgage is a cash debt that benefits from inflation.
The key to less volatility in your savings is being diversified across different asset classes.
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silver boomers are dumber then XRP baggies. lol, lmao
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>>61765895
Ironically, the goal of the regulation seems to have been to stop anyone from competing with American tech companies.
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>>61756826
Retail got dumped on at the peak of retail hysteria. You need there to be more to the story? Then you'll NGMI
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>>61756826
>The silver bullrun has been driven by central banks buying to dedollarize.
Because this is wrong, this is a bubble driven by narrative and hype, just like 2011.
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>>61760678
Periodically on the same month (december), because they use the exact same meme lines as the fucking banks.

Its basically goes like this
>thousand of /pol/fags,
>that have been DCAing for 10-15 years,
>use the same meme lines the bank use for years,
>saw the chart cross their lines, and say
>FUCK THE BANKS GONNA DUMP (according to their lines)
>and sodl at the exact same range of time (December last year to January last year)

Then the bank employees
>who just return to work from extended new year holiday
>saw /pol/ oldfags dumped their bags one by one
>and say "FUCK THE OLD INVESTORS ARE DUMPING"...
>...oblivious that the /pol/ oldfags are actually dumping because THEY THINK the banks are about to dump
>"DANG WE GOTTA SELL FAST TOO"

So its like a snake eating its own tail. The meme lines work because everyone is using it.

>>61761262
Who give a fuck. This is business. You want money? Then stay in the train
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>>61766464
>Retail got dumped on
By whom? Nobody sold, and nobody could have sold, that's the point.
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>>61766541
>December last year to January last year
I mean December last year to January this year. Im a bit drunk>>61760678
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>>61766546
You don't need to dump much to trigger a chain of liquidations when the market is this overheated
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>>61766484
>there were supply shortage issues in 2011
No.
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>>61756826
If you subscribe to the theory that the rise in silver price is, generally speaking, due to parabolically rising levels of government debt (this more directly correlates to gold's rise, but the metals seem historically linked), then surely the fundamentals haven't changed? The selloff was not tied to retail investors either, it was too large imo. Is the new fed fella actually gonna start raising interest rates (during this affordability crisis)?
Regardless, silver is still up massively. Long gone are the days of it moving up or down 25 cents a week.
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tomorrow we'll see emotional faggots are selling, guessing when east opens in the 2 feb they'll be taking over. basically faggot us banks manipulated to cover shorts, hoping it'll go even lower, it'll on monday, but as soon as east opens us is fucked. now on shangai will control the prices and the supply. it's over for failed state USA. hold physical, miner, or physical backed (not comex, real backed). that's my 2 cents.
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>>61766585
You didn't answer my question *who* sold?
>an enormous chain of liquidations
This just kicks the question down the road. Who was liquidating? And who was taking the other side, i.e. buying? Remember the size of the volume. The valuation was half the size of the US economy. Who bought that?
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>>61766484
do you honestly think retail investors like /biz/ posters caused silver to pump from $30 to $120? lmao
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>>61756826
bullion banks were trying to minimize losses from their shorts
surprise, surprise, the system is rigged
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anyone who bought above $70 is about to get fucked.
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>>61767097
>the banks who just bought on friday at the very bottom are going to lose
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>>61765693

How? Nonwhites will be shot on sight at range.
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>>61767149
shh no tears, only dreams now
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This
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keep coping baggies

get ready to get reamed tomorrow
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>>61767168
yes yes build a narrative to stop yourself feeling stupid for buying the top of yet another internet driven meme investment.
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>>61767156
That's why I'll just get away with it.
Blame it on the darkies.
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>>61767187
You can google it, jpmorgan has 750 million ounces now.
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>>61766057
Is this true
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>>61766945
Not just /biz/, also idiots on reddit, and the same idiots and boomers who bought in 2011.
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>>61767249
k, so you're dumb
thanks for letting us know
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>>61767249
This is just a retarded take. The price of silver fell late at night into the early morning. Boomers and silver stackers p much only buy and never sell if you look into the silver stackers. Thats the majority of them at least.

Also to think physical silver by individual sellers could tank the market that fast is absolutely retarded.



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