>this is what Facebook people actually believeMakes me want to go all in on AI stocks desu. Should I just buy more NVDA?
>>61825518why do luddites lie about AI's water and power usage?
>>61825819makes them feel good or something
>>61825819they're too stupid to understand how something works so they just cope by saying it's bad
>>61825518>>61825819>>61825840>>61826138They're unironically more well-informed than you shoeshine boys are. OpenAI is losing money on their $200/month ChatGPT subscription because LLMs are so insanely inefficient and expensive to operate, and they would need to price it at $2000/month just to break even. It consumes megawatts of energy every time you ask ChatGPT how to tie your shoes. AI isn't economically viable with current technology because how inefficient it is.
>>61826138>>61825819>1.3 billion in revenue and 1.4 trillion in spending commitments
>>61826157man wait till you hear about the US government deficit numbers
>>61825518Wait... where did the water go?!
>>61826157You're just a low iq tard who doesn't understand many companies will run at a loss and be valued at their potential future growth and profits and ChatGPT is an industry leader. It's like betting against uber.
>>61826234The problem is that the current amount of investment is magnitudes larger than its actual profitability, with no end in sight.
>>61826234uber is trash for an investment now because it has so many employees and competition now so its just a race to the bottom on margin. you actually just proved his point even more i dont think you realise your own chud logic
>>61825518Buy silver and gold insteadAI chips need precious metals but precious metals don't need AI
honestly id rather have people believe generating an AI image consumes oceans of water over the absolutely mind numbingly fucking stupid motherfuckers that insist, and SWEAR, that all AI prompts are "actually indians" conjuring up the answers for youI had a fucking idiot tell me this over lunch. it was supposed to be a get-together-havent-seen-each-other-in-years lunch and he had to go and prove that he became stupider than expected in that time
>>61826227the computer drank it
>>61826157>OpenAI is losing money on their $200/month ChatGPT subscriptionI thought it was $20/month? Are normies really paying this much for an online tamagotchi?
I was fucking this commie woman who was extremely anti-AI. Until an emergency happened and I suggested using AI to help her solve it. For a brief 10 minutes while the AI helped her solve this problem, she was in favor of it. And afterwards, she went back to being against it.
>>61826227Exploded
>>61825819climate change is dunzo so they jumped on this.
>>61826832Some people are genuinely retarded, anon. Don’t let it work you up. They heard the true cases of companies passing off Indian labor as AI. (Such as the Amazon cashier less grocery store)
Saying that AI just “used” the water passively is actually an understatement.What actually happened was that a beautiful, almond eyed African child had just finished a long walk through the desert to visit their mother.Parched, and on the edge of passing out, they came to a small well. He filled a small jug with crystal, sparkling water and raised it to his lips. But when he tipped the jug up, the water was gone! An AI data center had stolen it a second before it reached his lips.Distraught, he began to cry, but all that came out of the corners of his beautiful almond eyes was sand, because the AI data centers had stolen the water from his sweet little eyes!
>>61826983i hope you asked an LLM to generate that.
>>61825518I don’t care what mindless sheep think.
>>61825518Do AI centers actually use a lot of water? I thought the cooling would be done by huge chillers or something that is cooled by air or geothermal
>>61826227I put some water inside my asshole and squeezed it out. It's 99.99% pure water, you want a sip?
>>61825819They are retarded. Plus they don't even understand the water cycle. They really think when they drink water its gone forever.
>>61826157What's that got to do with the post? (water usage)
>>61825518even if it's not true, who cares? AI is nigger technology. none of its use cases justify its existence, one which creates creates minimal to no jobs and which takes up land that could be put to other, more productive uses.
>>61825819>>61826983>>61827289You guys are going to look really dumb when you realize they treat the water. It will end up an environmental disaster worse than Teflon
>>61826880you both sound 60-80 IQ with lower middle class physiognomy.
>>61826157>OpenAI is losing money on their $200/month ChatGPT subscription because LLMs are so insanely inefficient and expensive to operate, and they would need to price it at $2000/month just to break even. Lol, Zitron-reading luddite retard detected, you have no idea how any of this works do youI work at a software house and each developer has not one but SEVERAL $200 plans from Anthropic that we just max out. Our CTO literally phones Anthropic every week effectively yelling at them>SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TAKE OUR MONEY WE NEED MORE PLANS DARIO YOU SON OF A BITCHIf we could pay $2000 per head we would in a heartbeat. These guys are going to be shitting money in a year or two, the demand is simply insane.
ozgallonsfeetinchesdegrees farenheitKILL YOURSELF DUMB MUTT
>>61827333>two more years
>>61826227evaporated into thin air.
>>61825819>water usageAI consumes a grand total of 0 liters of water per yeargpus don't drink water, they're not living beings
>>61827294Water is used for cooling, which is directly related to energy use
>>61827522By the same logic, all living beings also consume a grand total of 0 liters of water per year, because all water taken in goes out again in one form or another
>>61827625exactlycongratulations, turns out water is a renewable resource and giving a shit about water consumption is retarded
>>61825518You want to ape into something that is physically unsustainable and destined for collapse?
>>61827641Water per se is no good. Water is valuable when it is in the right place and in the right form. If you evaporate it or contaminate it, it is no longer in the right place and right form
>>61827641>retard demonstrating his lack of familiarity with college freshman differential calculus concepts
I don't care so much about the resource cost because its coming out of shitholes like CA. What I DO care about is the Mechaniclysm. AI developers are building towards our doom, and investors are enabling them.
>>61825518I just sold my NVDA stocks. I don't know what's gonna happen but I'm not going to wait to see it. I can use the money for something more profitable.
>>61826227It's rendered completely unusable by the power of AI
>>61827845Well Chris, we haven't yet mentioned YOUR water usage
>>61827845So AI violates the law conservation of mass? Wow, that would upend centuries of physics research
Why don't we use pee?I've got a ton of it
>>61825518It looks like we are entering a bear market. The hedge funds and elites are afraid AI won't be worth the hundreds of billions that went into it. AI will also lead to massive unemployment which means spending will drop which isn't good for a business that needs customers with money.
>>61827845using water to cool down a server actually transforms it into greenhouse gases
>>61826234Uber is fucking retarded and you should just take a cab instead of hopping into some strangers car that downloaded an app.
>>61827973Shorting right now is a very good play.
>>61827933wondering this as well
>>61827983Fun fact: water (humidity) accounts for literally ALL of the short term heat waves and lingering heat effects of weather, not co2. You won't read a word about it until the ai narrative has run its course, market-wise and need a new narrative to naked short the ever-living piss out of it
>>61828261Water is a much much stronger greenhouse gas than co2
>>61827641Water treatment capacity exists and isn't free to build or operate.
>>61828296Personally, I don't think co2 is able to contribute anything to greenhouse gas effect. The concentration and the thermo just isn't there
>>61828330I mean it definitely contributes to the greenhouse effect on Venus. As for the Earth any honest engineer will tell you the jury is still out. You can't trust scientists in the regard because they are only ever focused on winning the next grant and not overly concerned with the search for truth.
>>61827287>you want a sip?yah
>>61828392>VenusI'd imagine having a conc multiple orders of magnitude different would have a far more outsized effect. Personally, I think the entire 'global warming' debate is disingenuous by nature, after basically being stewed in it my entire academic career. Plus, the addition of flora and fauna of all sizes makes direct comparison between planets hard to say the least
How about for every token you generate you have to take a sip of the AI coolant chemical soup water
>>61827983you mean nerve gas
>>61825518a good criticism of AI but there is still a better one: regular-old google search from 2019 is still better than any AI assistant of today. google search from 2017-ish had no ads.
>>61826854
>>61826854It's $20, but that's not enough to pay for the cost of producing AI. The businesses are running a growth model and are OK with some bad net revenue if it means more growth and prospective cash flows in the future.
>>61826227They use evaporative cooling, so some portion evaporates into the atmosphere. The remaining water becomes "hard" (higher concentration of minerals, because some portion has evaporated). That hard water eventually gets dumped, because it becomes too saturated with minerals to use in the cooling solution. The water that evaporated into the atmosphere will eventually fall back down to Earth, at one point or another, potentially on the other side of the planet. The hard water will eventually make its way back into the ecosystem, too, one way or another.
>>61826227Through the HVAC system to the cooling tower where a portion gets recycled and a portion is evaporated off as steam. They use non-potable water so this actually cleans the water returned to the environment. Ironically adding to the fresh water supply.
>>61829417>Generating loli porn with AI actually creates cleaner water shalom
If they were pumping ground/well water, that would matter quite a lot. Farming already overuses ground water. If they build in deserts like Tucson in Arizona or anywhere in California, where does that water have to physically come from? Because pumping or piping that in depletes the source’s reserves for others to use. And who’s going to volunteer to consume the AI water? Do you think you can grow crops with especially hardened water that’s been recycled after AI cooling stations are done with it?
>>61825518All tech is dying right now. If you think about buying a dip, you'll soon find the price you bought it became the head. You might never find the right dip.
Wait, if AI needs water, how are AI datacentres in space going to work? Water is HEAVY, can't take it up there
>>61825518Just look up how much water golf courses use in comparison and you'll realize AI is not the problem
>>61829866>especially hardenedWait until you learn every sip of water you ever drank has been pissed out by something before 100x over.
>>61831937>whataboutism
>>61826880Couldn't you just have googled it
Why dont companies just build data centers next to the ocean and use a heat exchanger to cool their centers? Or they could even build desalination stations since they are burning money anyways.
