What's the best thing to do at business school?I'm paying a few K a year at Western governor's university for an MBA.
>>61838974i got an MBA and it's been pretty useless for my career but it's funny to have
>>61838974CPA, that way you have an actual skill that you can sell that isn't just the social version of vibecoding. You can easily go into business management as a CPA as well later on
>>61839144Doesn't it make it so that people believe everything you say even though it doesn't give you a license or anything.
>>61839259No because most of the people I work with are way smarter than it takes to get an MBA. I am convinced the people who say they benefited from an MBA were already on that chosen-one career path or have fake jobs and had to get it as a technicality to fill in their resume
>>61838974>>61839177the only right answer is CFA. if you complete all 3 levels you're quite literally at the top of the finance industry. its the hardest professional certification to get, bar none. MBA is a meme for people who aren't good at business and any moron can get a CPA.
>>61839316what's the value of CFA?>muh investment bankingkek
>>61839431you dont have to work at an investment bank. you can make 100K+ at any investment related company (pension fund, hedge fund, mutual fund, PE) or be on the fast track to become CFO of ANY company.
>>61839460anon you're delusional. without an elite education and experience (or a jewish surname) it's just a certification. it's like having an MD degree with no residency training, or an incel having a 12" cock. it doesn't mean anything.
>>61839466oh you're just a NEET trolling.
>>61839466I know two guys who are doing their CFA and after passing CFA 1 they got a 30% salary increase. If you can finish CFA 2 and 3 it's quite lucrative. It's because it's so gatekept that it's expensive have you never figured out why every white country needs more doctors but never educates more? It's because their wages would fall and the doctors are rich enough to lobby against that
>>61839316Any moron can get a CPA because it's practical and based in the real world. Risk management is always going to be an in-demand commodity compared to drawing moon-runes on a chart
>>61839858People also get huge salary increases after an MBA
>>61839516no, i'm a CPA.>>61839858what do they do, where do they work, and how much do they make before and after the raise?
>>61839316I’m a cpa and this is probably true. I studied super hard for the first level CFA exam when I was in college and I passed pretty easily. Then I waited ten years and tried to take the second level without studying. Dumbest thing I ever did. Complete waste of time and money. Should never waited so long to take the second level, but getting a job was so hard back then I went for my cpa because I thought it would get me a job easier.
Basically all of these will soon be worthless due to AI agents. Stay away from business degrees. And don’t even bother studying for the CPA exam. The AICPA has basically made the license worthless. Only worthwhile credential that you listed is the CFA.
>>61840431you need human responsibility for that accounting
>>61840449I’m a CPA and know that the walls are closing in on a good chunk of the profession. AI agents will be preparing workpapers in a year or two. Just look at Claude Excel add-ins and Claude Cowork. These things are only going to improve. Offshoring is a huge thing too. Only senior manger and above will stay employed long-term.
>>61840468I think it's overblown
to the people in the know: is a CTA worth pursuing? I really enjoy stocks and it seems like a valuable skill to learn?
>>61838974MBA and CFA are both bullshit degreest. lawyer
>>61840468Probably right as much as I hate to admit it. One reason why I don’t work too hard at my wagie job. It’ll be a miracle if I still have a job in 10 years. Oh well. I actually would rather be a school bus driver anyways.
>>61838974I have an MS in business from University of Texas at Austin. Ever since earning my degree my salary has tripled. I'm thinking about getting my DBA so I can go teach college in Asia. But the only schools which actually offer DBA have lower rankings than UT. So I'm actually worried about the DBA hurting my reputation.
>>61838974An MBA is useless. If you want a “Master’s degree”, then acquire one in the subject of a business/industry you wish to pursue. You can learn the “business” of said industry afterwards (assuming you aren’t a retard), with the “credentials” to back yourself up if/when it becomes necessary. But studying and paying for a vague professional degree in “business”, with the hope of making it in the working world, is a waste of time. Unless of course, you are specifically pursuing an MBA to extend your network.
>>61843000>Unless of course, you are specifically pursuing an MBA to extend your network.Couldn't you only do that at an M7 school?
>>61843045You can build a network at almost any school, but the caliber and long term leverage of those connections varies. M7’s tend to place you in closer proximity to better opportunities and more ambitious peer groups than lower-profile institutions.So when someone asks, “Should I get an MBA?”, it’s better to ask, “which institution’s ecosystem do I want to embed myself in that will compound my trajectory after I graduate?”. An MBA itself rarely moves the needle, but the environment and network attached to it are what creates lift. Think of a MBA alone like Dubai. The flash by itself means nothing but what matters is whether you’re plugged into the infrastructure that actually generates momentum afterwards.
>>61838974You are the idiot who makes these AI-image threads all the time, right?I replied in your last thread:1. CPA: Decent wagie slave route, see >>618391772. CFA: Mostly useless. Way to hedge funds and investment banks is through target schools and internsips. While useless, it's respected and gives you real knowledge.3. MBA: useless if not from top 10 school and you get an internship or have REAL connections that can put you in a director role at 26>>61839316I have the CFA. It's useless. It's much more difficult and the "knowledge is useful" compared to the CPA, but it doesn't even get you an analyst role. Don't believe me? Go read CFA forums.> and any moron can get a CPA.And yet it gets you a real career, whereas a CFA oesn't.>>61839947This is completely bullshit. I covered in last thread. Might take you from 40k to 60k. Differentiator for wagies. Here is the old thread: >>61824987
>>61843345I heard that if you specifically go for tax lawyer route, the JD-CPA is an incredibly powerful combo. But be ready to grind because you basically need 5 years of graduate study. A CPA by itself is ok and will feed you. >>61843345I know a person who earned her MBA from UT Rio Grande Valley (cheap regional online program) and she is a high school business teacher. I asked her why she isn't doing more with her life and she said she is satisfied with what she does.
>>61843860I can't comment on that past the fact that law is incredibly competitive and selective now as well. Law + highly focused corporate profession (CPA being one of them, I am sure) will pay IF you can get into that position.> teacherA lot of the time there is not much more to do with an MBA. A lot of MBAs are IT product "owners, managers, analysts" - this is code for 60 to 120k forever with no promotions.I think, hopefully, OP is trying to figure out what to do with his life and not just posting bullshit. If that's the case, he needs to understand where each path leads on its own. But it would really help if he gave his full situation (previous education / work experience) and goals.
>>61843926Degree inflation, particularly since the last 15 years is also very real. Online education and student loans has increased access to the point where anyone can get a degree, diminishing their meaninfulness. Even if the degree program has value in its actual education and skill building, the simple law of supply and demand has greatly reduced the attractiveness of white collar work. Like you say, most of these MBA analysts are all competing for ~$100k, which is not even much money these days, and the competition to land this type of role is somewhat high. For bachelor's degree holders, the prospect is even more grim. I know people with a BBA degree who have resorted to doing manual labor in a warehouse, $50k a year. Jobs are evaporating fast and the only solution I can think of is "learn manage AI agents," which is this decade's version of "learn to code."
>>61843345No
I passed my CFA level 1 and currently a level 2 candidate Let me tell you the CFA is not worth it.
>>61839316This is a straight lie. Having passed all three levels of the CFA doesn't make you top in your industry. How it doesn't even help you get a job really rather it helps you beat out a candidate who doesn't have a CFAAlso claiming that a CFA will help you get a job in ib is comedy. Ib is either you are the elite of elite in finance or a nepo baby
>>61844351Have fun, 2 is the hardest one by far. Do the practice exams. I used to think I could get by on "understanding" - fucking lol. I would say 2 is 2 or 3 times harder than 1. Three is a joke.>>61844357This, all the analysts I know don't have CFAs and got a job out of college. All the CFAs I know work in tech, other than the CFAs who got the CFA way later after already having a senior role.>>61843997This
