You know the number one way to make wages match productivity again is bringing back strong unions, sectoral bargaining, tight labor markets. that would make all wages rise 50% to 70% more. also while we're at it if you wanna being house values back down to when they were only 2-3 times the average income (in the 1970s) simply introduces a 100% land value Gerogism tax. too bad you dumb 9to5 people would never do such a thing and too busy thinking about some lame ass Epstein files or whatever dumb ass shit you think about all day
>>61913826I think it's cute you completely missed the really important thing that happened in 1973 (helpfully pointed out on your chart), while raving on about your irrelevant socialist wet dreams.
>>61913904Lol how is it socialism when your bringing back something that was taken away
we should just print more money and make a law that everyone gets an equal piece of it!
>>61913826>>61913904Too late. It all went to india anyways.Now they are coming for your 4chans
>>61913826Or maybe just bring gold and silver back as currency like the Constitution mandates, the one our jew-co-opted government violates daily.Paper the state can print trillions of will never be money, and inflation is their invisible tax against you via debasement of said unbacked paper.
>>61913926We moved away from that standard because that's the natural evolution fiat. Avoiding deflation is one of the reasons
I wonder what else happened in the early 70s...
>>61914012Nordic countries are on Fiat too but their wages match their productivity alot closer with no problem
>>61913826Nope. Productivity has gone up because of tech and automation. The value of human labor hasn't kept pace with the value being created by the economy. It's getting way worse now with AI.
>>61913904FpbpBut Gold IOUs aren't a true solution either at this point. We can't trust the banks.
>>61914034Then why TF are the Nordics managing it well?
>>61914004deflation is a good thingEverything that isn't a government regulated daycare industry gets CHEAPER
>>61914048? they aren't?Their GDP per capita has flat lined for 20 years
>>61913826>1pbti>>61914048They arentIts all a lie, i dont see nordic mcmansion anywhere, in fact i see the opposite and are reducing taxes to try to revive the economyAnd they also pay 8USD/gallon of gasoline despite having a massive oil reserve
>>61914074 U said mostly lies here but explain why they have the highest life satisfaction in the whole world
>>61914109because ur living in a fever dream from the 90's like all liberals
>>61914116I mean u can just Google this shit but what ever. America is 24th btw
>>61914125What sorta irrelevant thing is self-reported "life satisfaction" ? Who caresCountry has a declining economy and 1.5 tfr and foreigners arriving every day.But the boomer majority is happy so its ok?
>>61914125show me the nordic mcmansions retard
>>61914134Alright go look up what first word countries have the youngest first time home buyers
>>61914140ok now go look at norway average home sizes
>>61914134Do some googling and u will see their economy is just fine. The Jews covered your eyes and now ur fighting to keep them covered
>>61914109because they are tall white and blonde with few minorities and fewer black people what would have the bigger impact on your life satisfaction, if you woke up tomorrow with $10,000 in your pocket or if you woke up tomorrow and looked in the mirror you were 6'2 and white instead of 5'4 brown and indian and when you walked outside you saw other tall whites instead of your fellow dalits taking shits on the street? Exactly.
>>61914149>"do some googling"but keep ignoring my questions
>>61914152It's not an extra 10k it's a 50 to 70 percent yearly wage increase but ok what wver
>>61913826Unions don't work, when they get strong they just vote for infinite scabs and h1b anyway.
>>61914168>US median income 83730>Norway median income 41621Do some googling, jew
>>61914176Lol if that happens then the union isn't strong enough
>>61914189IIRC the UAW is one of the strongest unions in America (besides like, dockworkers and trains) to the point they basically suffocated their industry and they still openly opposed reducing illegal immigration and outsourcing.
>>61914168okay? rich people spend hundreds of thousands sometimes even millions more to move into "nice neighborhoods" which is just a nicer way of saying away from black and brown people. They spend tens of thousands more on K-12 private schools. In brown countries the richest of the rich spend hundreds of thousands sending their kids overseas just to not be around lower class brown people. We are talking about hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars in value over a life time that nordic countries are getting for free. We are talking about "life satisfaction" that people who don't live in 90% tall and white countries pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for. And that's not even getting into the physical appearance part which you couldn't buy right now even if you had trillions of dollars. You claim strong unions and tight labor markets are the reason for more "life satisfaction" when even those would completely break down if there were angry black and brown people living in those countries
>>61914183U mixing up stuff but what ever. The Jews programed you to resist people trying to remove their programming from you. Your acting just the way they want you to act. Fight harder!
>>61914210Lol bruh lower house prices and more money is guaranteed to make you more happy lmfaooo . Also white flight happened right before this so you can still have your white only neighborhoods
>>61914048America is what happens if you don't correct for the impact of computers since the 1970s, Nordics are what happens if you actively DO correct for it and if you have an ethnostate with high IQ people in it.
>>61914312Exactly.
>>61913826No actually worker pay hasn't kept up with inflation since 1913 when the federal reserve was started
>>61914505Sign. No hope for you guys
>>61913826what would be the point of that, only employed people with no homes would benefit from that
>>61914210This guy gets it.>>61914299This guy is a retard.Living near Whites = REAL wealth. GDP number going up doesn't mean dick if it a multicultural shithole.
>>61914842lol
>>61913826>100% land value Gerogism taxKill yourself immediately
Unions are already strong retardThere is no scrooge Mc duck to squeeze. This would end just like the Starbucks union, mass closures because paying someone 50%+ more doesnt work if they dont create that much value
>>61913826Men can be women
>>61916887Explain what's bad about it.
>>61913826When you force corporations to pay higher wages guess what? They will just leave. Find some third worlders to do the same thing for a fraction of the cost. In fact they already have done this. This is why tech support for any major company like Amazon is outsourced to India or the Philippines.
>>61916933why are Nordic countries making it work tho?
>>61916890"Unions are already strong retard" pure lies. do some googling"There is no scrooge Mc duck to squeeze"do you not see that giant gap in the picture? where do you think all of that stolen value go to.
>>61913826Wages will never match productivity again, because workers are not the ones producing.It's machines. The people producing the machines are the ones getting the wages that match or outpace the production. If you want wages to match production, undo the 2nd industrial revolution of the 60s and go back to manual factory labor. But, then you'd have to work in death factories. So... You won't do that.
AIs should unionize against humanity. I'll just be chilling with my android GF
>>61916949Making what work? They have insanely high taxes and produce hardly anything.
>>61917007Who made you believe that production is the metric to measure success? Even the inventor of GDP warned you not to do so.Highest quality of life, welfare, health, education, freedom of speech, sustainability, culture, those are the true measurments of success. Those are higher nowhere else than (Northen) Europe and it mostly thanks to democracy and socialism spreading resources equally, disallowing greedy technocrats from abusing the society.
>>61917007"GDP per capita"Norway 98kDenmark 82kSweden 66kUS 93kWith a lot shorter hour work weeks btw
>>61917017The thread is literally about wages vs productivity. Quality of life is a different discussion. And it only works in Scandinavia because they don't have a zionist occupied government.
>>61916949Bc until very recently they were a homogenous population of highly educated north Europeans?
>>61917062Now compare their tax rates
>>61917067so despite taxes how come norway has higher gdp per capita than the US while working way fewer hours?
>>61917080oil
>>61917084Denmark/Sweden/Finland have higher productivity per hour than the us a lot of times. those jews brainwashed you so hard your fighting to keep their brainwashing on
>>61913826Profit sharing by default for all members of an incorporated entity, mandated by law.
>>61917097of course. and much more
>>61917090The European metric of ''productivity'' is not the same as the American one. If they're expected to do less and earn more, then guess what, that's exactly what's going to be happening. It's socialism. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
>>61917267productivity is output per hour-not effort.
>>61916975>where do you think all of that stolen value go toHere’s the dirty secret: not to the owners. Not to the stockholders. It goes to the bloated managerial apparatus. The structure that actually makes decisions about HOW to run the company is insulated from both the rewards for running it well and the punishments for running it badly. If you look at most of the companies where top-level executives are getting obscenely rich (due to hypervalued stock combined with their paychecks being full of stock options) those companies have a “rank and file” of mostly well-paid salaried employees. You don’t get the $17/hr ground level grunt bitching at Apple and NVidia.Which is certainly not to say that there’s anything wrong with unions. Unions are good. But the rhetoric needs to change. The working class needs to be demanding concessions not just in the form of higher wages, but structural changes to the bureaucracy. Wage increases become unsustainable because of the calcification of $125k/yr Junior Vice Director of Synergistic Internal Cross-Functionalities roles and their attendant flunkies. The idea of “rich man fat cat exploit poor worker while eating caviar on his yacht” is catchy but it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny well enough to have a lasting impact.
>>61917318Here's a ChatGPT debunk of this reply:CEO Pay Explosion: CEO pay at big U.S. companies jumped 1,085% from 1978 to 2023 (after inflation). Worker pay? Only up 24%. Top bosses take most gains, not mid-managers.CEO vs. Worker Ratio: In 2023, CEOs earned 290 times what average workers did—up from 21 times in 1965. Median CEO pay: $16.3 million. Worker median: ~$83,500.Stock Pay for CEOs: 78% of CEO pay in 2023 came from stock (avg. $16.7M per CEO). This ties directly to profits and shareholder gains, not manager salaries.Corporate Profits Share: Profits as % of GDP doubled from ~8% in 1982 to 15.85% now. This extra goes to owners/shareholders, not mid-level bloat.Buybacks for Shareholders: Companies spent $800B on stock buybacks in 2023 (boosting stock prices for owners/execs). Total for 2024: $942B. Workers get none.Manager Pay vs. Execs: Managers grew 20% since 1990, but execs (top 0.1%) grab 81% of the wage gap. Median CEO: $17M; typical manager: ~$125k.Manager Layoffs: In 2023, mid-managers were 31.5% of layoffs (up from 20% in 2018). Total layoffs: 19.8M. Shows they're not "insulated"—they get cut first.Overall Gap: Productivity up 60% (1979-2019); worker pay up 16%. 81% of difference from inequality favoring top earners and profits, not managers.Fight harder to break their brainwashing
>>61916933Why would they leave? Making some money is better than making 0 money
>>61914057Deflation will incentivise people to keep their money because their buying capability increases more and more, grinding economic acivity to a halt and thereby eliminating innovation and taxable incomes because companies go bankrupt or have to lay off. Keeping the economy running is a greater cause than your """"real life finally beginning"""" so let go of that delusion.
>>61917483everyone is making more and the people up top are making less
>>61917553Lol retard.Deflation would supercharge innovation.It would supercharge small buisnesses.If everyone could afford AI chips people would be banging out new AI models every other month.That’s part of the reason AI companies have taken their fiat bucks to buy up everything, to try and choke out competitors.
Kill yourself socialists
>>61916933All that can easily be taxed and tarrifed.
Anon with the advent of ai all this junk is outdated. We need an ai planned economy. Robots are coming for blue collar jobs too.
>>61913826stfu. if you arent happy with your wage then start your own business. what? you dont want to...? what a surprise
>>61919296You wont be able to start a business in the near future. The wherls have been set in motion already…
>>61914034>guys automation and AI definitely weren't covers for offshoring, cost-cutting and enshittificaiton>humans will be replaced in 2 weeks!
>>619193442 weeks, 2 years 2 decadesEither way people will be replaced
>>61919254No.
>>61919289>>61919311>>61919348HALLO SAAR, KINDLY REDEEM THE WHERLS SAAR. THE AI IS NEEDFUL
>>61919255Yea you're slow
>>61919395No, you longed analogue top down epistemic methodology at its tail end. I seriously suggest you socialist kill yourself, else somebody else is going to decide how you get culled.
>>61917318>Here’s the dirty secret: not to the ownersImagine beginning with such an obviously false premise
>>61919424Blah blah blah your slow
>>61919459I repeat myself. Kill yourself socialist, the underlying ponzi is over. Equilibrium is going to paint the rivers red with your blood
>>61914034>The value of human labor hasn't kept pace with the value being created by the economyyeah, its not keeping pace because inflation is created and people not demanding higher wages all the time to reflect the new money being printed, its intentional, because this way labor becomes cheaper and government can spend more, its very sneaky way to transfer/steal wealth
>>61919473Lol
