thoughts on elon being this close to the first trillionaire? this amount of wealth is insane god damn
>>61943375I'm a PhD in robotics in China and I have like 20K in my name. And I probably violently ratio him at engineering. Life is unfair anons
>>61943375Crazy to think that this guy could buy my heterosexuality for a couple millions and he wouldnt even notice.
>>61943375>private valuations>of his privately held companies>based not on revenue or profitsYea well I own a small private company and I say it is worth 800 trillion borillion gazabbaziklion infinity dollars so my fake valuation makes me richer than Elon.
>>61943375I think Tesla only has a 3-4x up from here. Musk's grift will soon plateau
>>61943375>Tesla>SpaceX>StarlinkWell deserved.
>>61943401starlink is insaneeee ive seen ice poseidon use starlink and stream with good quality in the middle of bumfuck no where in chile like in the mountains and stuff
Let the open market decide his net worth.
>>61943375he's not, just a front man for the very, very retarded people
>>61943375My first thought is that inflation has devalued the dollar so reaching round number "milestones" like this has become easier than ever
>>61943402This is good how?
>>61943375Based.Commies on suicide watch.
>>61943381unfair and dumb as fuck. the world is run by morons who'd rather have it all to themselves than live in shared prosperity.hope we all catch a break, anon.
>>61943402>let's bring even more turdies on the internet and ruin it even morefucktard
>>61943636Just learn Japanese and stay on the Japanese web
>>61943375Nothing he has is worth THAT much money. What is this dogshit? Before we had bill gates and Jeff bezos who had a global empire and were only tenth of that if not less. But you are telling me that this guy who has some meme payment site and is selling toy cars who were popular amongst rich hipsters is suddenly a gorillionaire? Fuck off
>>61943636lmao, total Chinese world domination. Get ready the internet getting flooded with pro China posts.
>>61943402How many people live in areas like this in the developed world where they don´t have access to 4G? Are niggers in the Congo jungle going to pay 100 USD a month for Starlink? The product has a clear ceiling that none of the guidance for the company is accounting for (a common Musk trait ofc).
>>61943659Its only on paper and its part a bubble.
>>61943375pedo goobergot no respect for him and i don't give a shit about how much wealth he has
>>61943652they're mentally ill
>>61943571Get that billionaire cock out of your mouth so I can understand what you're saying.
>>61943666China has been on top for a good while now, but chinks have their own internet and keep to themselves unlike poojeets who seek to flood every corner of the western internet with their annoying filth.
>>61943375he unironically gifted the human race free speech by buying x. literally a saint and I say that as someone who hates ev`s
>>61943381learn sales and marketing like that choina custom sign manufacturer
>>61943719He literally bought the media. He can shape the public opinion how he wants. He can rig everything. Soon you will buy a Tesla and will love it.
>>61943381Musk got like $30k from his dad for an internet startup with his brother in the 90s (about $65k today), flipped that into tens of millions of dollars when they were bought out, and then repeated that with Thiel and Paypal before founding Tesla and SpaceX. He was early to industries that bubbled and boomed no less than twice, which is in large part responsible for his wealth. He's never worked hard enough to actually earn nearly a trillion dollars. He was lucky, and of course, as a good capitalist, worked others to the bone for his valuations and compensation. He slept on the couch in the 90s so everyone has to sleep in the office for him now, despite not actually owning the company. That's how he sees it.
>>61943666>get readyWhere have you been for a decade, satan?
>leftist seethe thread #33>/biz/ness and finance
>>61943869Well seething is all they can do
>>61943375That's crazy he could give everyone a million dollars and still have billions
>>61943733Nigger I spent 10 years of my life mastering robotics I can't change now I'm in too deep. I thought being good at something is valuable but actually I'm just the best slave... I was played >>61943786>$30k from his dad for an internet startup with his brother in the 90syeah I doubt it was 30k only but anyway the difference being that 30k back then is a lot and that if I lose my 20k I don't have a dad to save me it's literally all I have, to buy a house or something, my dad works as a street cleaner we don't have money. My dream would be to start a company in the US but I don't see this happening ever.
>>61943375I think it's awesome.
People get mad at billionaires but they’re same people who made them wealthy. This was all consensual, and you gave them money because they provided an invaluable service. I couldn’t care less about his wealth. You could seize every dollar, and assuming it didn’t collapse whatever faith remaining in our market economy, it wouldn’t even cover half of our federal deficit spending this year.
>>61943916^ Also this. Just didn't feel like typing it.
There are far richer people than Musk but you only care about him because he is a media clown and is listed in Forbes goy magazine.
>>61943916Usually people say something bad about a billionaire to feel morally superior without having to boycott there services. Most consumers are cowards.
>>61943894>Slave>Master of robotsI wonder what could go wrong...
>>61943947Surprised it took this long for someone to post this.
>>61943894The point is, you need to start a business, ideally in an emerging industry that will boom later, and be successful enough that others will buy you out, and keep doing that until you have the capital to do what you really want. That's the Musk lesson. You're highly likely to fail absent those circumstances. Being a good engineer doesn't necessarily mean you'll be a good businessman too.>>61943916>This was all consensualIt's all consensual until people try to build alternatives or refuse to do certain things and then it gets ugly. Why does the bourgeois love democracy but not in the workplace? A true riddle of western society.>>61943947Musk is headlined because he built successful companies. He's everything our society wants to promote. Financiers don't like attention, after all. And they hate competition.
Musk will go bankrupt in 2026
>>61943952It’s really insane how many people out there hate Zuckerberg but are always glued to Instagram. Just stop using it.>>61944061I’m unsure of what you mean. Companies and industries are disrupted all the time, especially when they become complacent. But are you talking about socialism or something? The Soviet Union collapsed on its own. Socialism has been tried, it doesn’t work. If you want to make capitalism less cutthroat, make it so that people who work 40 hours a week can afford rent, food, and gas for their car etc. then I totally understand that. But this socialism stuff is a fantasy. Go look at how Venezuela went from being the most prosperous South American country to on the verge of collapse without us doing anything until much later.
>>61944294Would you short sell Tesla?
>>61944378Capitalism has been made less cutthroat only when influenced by the threat of socialism. People talk about marxism, communism, socialism today like it's a imminent threat, but it's a bogeyman. If the powers that be were actually worried, they might throw us a bone and compromise here and there. As it stands, they effortlessly crush unions and shit down our throats.Also, if your business plan is to be a disrupter, good luck to you.
>>61943916Yeah I consensually paid taxes that got funneled back into his green credit trading scheme
>>61943375That is a valuation. He doesn't have $841.5 billion. What he has is a credit line to $841.5 billion, which is flexible, at practically zero interest rate.I'm not sure how I feel about such wealth. What I am pretty sure of is that worldwide wealth has grown in cadence. A trillionaire in a world of billionaires is not really so different from a billionaire in a world of millionaires. This wealth gap is not unprecedented, he's just first to get to that number.I'm also pretty certain, if there has to be trillionaire, it's better him than his contemporaries. He doesn't hoard wealth, he builds more businesses and takes on more risks, and in the process make many more people rich.>>61943676The tech is not just aimed at people who live in a jungle. It is for people who need to roam, and may incentivize more people to do so.There's also the transformative power of internet access itself. Remote areas are no longer remote, because Starlink (plus a battery) could potentially fill multiple infrastructure roles in one fell swoop. The jungle will no longer be the jungle.
>>61944482All the past stability of the US was part because people were told that the system was fair. That those who work hard will get wealthy and those who don't wont and deserve to be poor. Being poor? Just work harder and you'll be rich in no time. It has been called a fair game. Now people start to question this believe, that has been indoctrinated decades ago.
>>61943786>greatest living industrialist>massive cope from failed anonsnever gets old
I would have to work over 8 million years with my current salary to earn that much. I would have had to start working since before we split from apes.
>>61943786>Musk got like $30k from his dad for an internet startup with his brother in the 90s (about $65k today)How many people in this world had that same privilege or better, yet still didn't start companies that could land rockets or make cars that drive themselves?Success is complex because life is complex, and the inclusion of luck or privilege does not somehow invalidate that success. Out of all the people in this world, he was the one to do it. It could have been millions of others, but it wasn't.>He's never worked hard enough to actually earn nearly a trillion dollarsMost of the wealth in this world was created by people who wanted to work less.
>>61944457Not socialism necessarily, but populism. That’s what fucks shit up, and it’s why Trump, Bernie and Mamdani terrify the elites. Elites aren’t scared of some 20-something year olds talking about dialectical materialism, they’re scared of the masses being swayed by people who say “we’re going to crash the system”, which then leads to results. Everything is going as planned.
>>61944962Who the fuck is Mamdani?
>>61943392Yeah that's cute but he can manifest billions in cash
>>61944953I'm not invalidating his success, it's undeniable, but it's also not complicated. He's cultivated a mythos about himself rivaled only by the dearly departed Steve Jobs. He's also a loudmouth who's made big promises with little to show for them.>Most of the wealth in this world was created by people who wanted to work less.By making others do the work for them. I would further argue that it's impossible to work hard enough to earn a trillion dollars because it's literally not how our society functions.>>61944962Populism is the retarded cousin of fascism and Trump doesn't scare anyone, his entire purpose is to mislead and dissipate a movement that could potentially conjure a real opposition to the two party system. Everything is indeed going as planned.
>>61943387Kek
>>61943786He wasn't lucky, he works nonstop. You're just a lazy cunt incapable of reading the history of Muo or Stalin.
>>61944451I'm not your financial advisorBut Tesla will go down and Musk is in debt which is tied to his Tesla stock
>>61943952This.These retards try to grasp why suggesting they don't use the services day-to-day, but if they don't, they must live on a farm and still, the business their buying from does.
>>61945205Too bad he's trying to merge spacex, xai and Tesla retard. His loans are in Tesla, but upon merging, he'll just re-leverage lmfao. You are def a stupid commie.
>>61943636Blody
>>61943666>get readyDid you sleep the last decade newfag sir?
>>61943719The internet already did that lol.
>>6194337580% of it is fake inflated wealth. Almost all the 1%r wealth is. That wealth comes from financial trickery, games, corruption, and stolen tax payers money. It’s all a series of over-inflated over-valued snake oil bullshit listed across thousands of spreadsheets backed by little more than the made up over-leveraged debt slavery of the American goycattle.It cannot last, and the bubble will pop just like it did in the previous 20s. You can only run an economy on lies, trickery, smoke, mirrors, and bullshit for so long.
>>61943375trillionaire in what, worthless dollar
>>61943659Things can remain faker and gayer longer than you can remain sane
>subject is someone who is rich>knee jerk replies about how everything is unfair>sore losers keep showing up and complaining about the entire world>''well, it's all just stupid and it doesn't mean anything!''Every fucking time too. Sour fucking grapes all around.
>>61945226>you're a commie if you doubt state funded musk
>>61945549yeah they're just jalous
>>61943381>I'm a PhD in robotics in China and I have like 20K in my name. And I probably violently ratio him at engineering. Life is unfair anonsIt doesn't fucking matter, you haven't created a company, or made anything revolutionary.
>>61945900I'm.not that anon but I have a PhD in nanomaterials and have invented shit in my academic and presently industrial career that 90% of the population will never be able to wrap their heads around, that are currently being bought and used around the world.I'm living paycheck to paycheck(Tbf a major part of that is the monthly "you picked a really shitty wife" divorce tax)
>>61943381big L you're not a jewish mossad asset from an old money family running slave mines in africa
>>61945900Ansys paid me 250k for some software that they'll probably make tens of millions off of
>>61945900his rockets suck and everything else is just a money laundering scam. if he made starship look like an actual starship (there is no drag in space) it would make sense
>>61943607> shared prosperity.Fuck you loser. Go bk to redd it
>>61944560Access to that much credit gives him unilateral capability to shape the world around you, regardless to what any other entity might actually want. There is no law that the threat of a trillion dollars cannot defeat
>>61943375>cursed with autism>grew up under monster father>romantic life is one failure after another>bad relationship with children>one son trooned out and disowned him>his platform, that he bough for 44 billion, got taken over by jews and he can't control it anymore>sidelined from politics in a humiliating way>desperately tries to be funny and cool>no one thinks he is funny and coolI dunno man, billions are nice but I don't think being him is worth it
>>61946384Somehow forgot:>being a junkie>being dick mangled after a failed surgery>being considered the lolcow of billionaires
>>61943375how much of that can be redeemed for cash today...or would his handlers not allow that
>>61943381your phd means nothing, engineering means nothing...sure life is unfair but not because of that
>>61946444China-anon is just coping. Every brokie copes and every midwit copes. Everyone thinks they deserve to be multi millionaires or that they are millionaires making a small wage. They never stop to think that maybe they have no value and are being paid their worth. The internet has made every normie think they deserve more.
>>61946444He's used most of his stock as loan collateral
Elon-gated skull he is an alien
>>61943381>bug thinks because he did everything his parents told him to that he deserves to be successful like ElonSorry Chang, that's never been how it works. The world is a physical system that can be manipulated in many ways. Your goal is to manipulate it to get as much money out as possible. Elon found a way to do that, while you were too scared and buckbroken to even try. Maybe in your next life you will be born White and have a better understanding of how these things work.
>>61943375Trillionares already exist u donkey. He will simply be the first trillionare to go public with his money.
>>61943676people in africa hasve to pay only 10 dollars a month , compared to first world countries. they get a discount its like this with everything, netflix, spotify , uber, etc etc
>>61944457Lol the iron worker union is cushy idk wtf you're schizobabbling about. I'm getting paid either a good competitive wage or unemployment from the many times i get to sit on my ass and jerk off because a job got called off. Try talking to people and going outside, maybe you'll see how easymode life in the states is.P.S. I'm a dipshit from a lower middle class family and the iron workers treat me this good, enjoy being broke wagie
>>61945549Yep
So are lefties gonna start crying billionaires AND trillionaires? Are they going start feeling bad for the millionaires as if they're one of us?>>61945549Trvke. Yet somehow these seething retards expect anyone to side with them when they see can't past their own emotions. Makes me want to side with the billionaires and just start taking their money too since they're too stupid to stop giving it to the ones they see as wrong.
>>61943400Cybertaxi alone could 3-4x the company. If Optimus actually becomes useful, that could be bigger than the cars. So I think you're stupid and I feel confident I have more money than you.
>>61947668>CybertaxiHe promised they would be on the street by 2020But it's no problem for him to lie with dummies like you who keep believing
>>61943432Correct, they are all public figures with no control over anything. People who think Musk is the richest man in the world are the same people who think Kash Patel is in charge of the FBI.
>>61943392Cool, cool. Now go borrow against it.
>>61943375Can't wait for the seethe floodgates to open once my nigga reaches one trilly
>>61943636>36.79%
>>61943381if you're so smart. . . why aren't you rich?
>>61943636>tragedy of the commons showcased in one chartAnd that's even after the eternal september
>>61943375The fact that mostly useless individual people are allowed to amass this much wealth is a sign that the system we have doesn't work and needs to be replaced with a system where no person can be more than 10x as wealthy as another.
>>61943375he owns equity which could easily go to zero in a week. children of 4chan think that wealth is some permanent and tangible thing. In real life he owns companies which investors pretend are worth billions. Their actual value if sold is MUCH less.
>>61943381>>61943432>>61945296>>61946040>>61949683>all of this copeWhy aren't you rich?Guess you aren't smart after all.
>>61943571People actually opposed to communism wouldn't support taxpayers funding his subsidies. He can seek out private investment for everything if his supporters want to pretend he his solely a product of capitalism.
>>61949762is*
>>61943375all that money and he still gets pushed around by the the people who print it
You guys probably think this is a joke but he is probably going to merge X and spaceX into tesla and probably end up getting the crazy pay package.
>>61949906nobody thinks that's a jokethat's literally the only reason tesla stock is selling for 10 times the price of its competition.tesla is shit and everyone knows it. But he might roll some more promising projects into it.
>>61943375>first trillionaireThat we know of, yes