As long as I work, life will never not be a chore. At 29 I've been thinking about suicide weekly since I left highschool. Parents kicked me out at 18 and don't give a flying fuck. Call me names and whatever or discuss what to do about it.
>>61949967Shouldnt have kids if they are to have to work desu. Especially today. It is literally getting worse economically each month by a lot.
not my problem
>>61950000QUADS OF TRUTH NUKEHow do I fix what they started?
I'm a bottom 80% earner and I'm considering suicide.
>>61949967Use your skills to move to Asian or Russia, Western economy is fake and gay
>>61950000Literally all they had to do was not make my life worse. My mom literally stole the inheritance my grandpa gave me, to give ti to my brother who spent it on drugs and then bitches when I call her a cunt and a whore before bragging about all the negros she helped this week.
>>61950020f your mom, with all due respect.
I'm a bottom 95% earner I tried to kill myself twice
>>61950013I browse a lot of social media (youtube, X, 4chan, copefarm reddit, gaming servers) and look at economic data, I realize a lot of people are poor. >bottom 70% have no savings>top 10% do 50% of the consumption >only 2.5% of people have 1m when excluding a home which is nothing Most people are struggling. What I realized was this:All the poor people today were kids once. So all these poor people today who are adults, what were their parents thinking?Today, in 2026, we are openly in a k shaped economy that msm needs to talk about “which market” or “which consumer” when talking about things. If youre not upper class and have more than one kid, those kids are fucked.
>>61950042Meanwhile jews in New Jersey have 12 kids and don't have to work a second in their life
>>61950020I retired at 26 but I cannot imagine what it is like being a normal white collar making say, 60-120k. All these jobs are usually in major cities and the cost of living is through the roof. Also, did you know since the top 10% do 50% of the consumption and their spending keep increasing, it actually increases inflation too? lmao. The bottom 90% has cut back spending a year ago already too. Keep my stats in mind when you interact online. 1/10 Americans are doing “very well.” (bloomberg)9/10 are not doing well and face job losses to ai and cheaper workers. People under 30 cannot find jobs due to ai taking entry level postions. Workers 30-50 (millennials) face job losses and not being able to find jobs. Economy is terrible but this was 100 yaes in the making. Every family/person had 100 years to make it when you include parents and grandparents.
>>61950051So? If they cannot not to work, good for them.
>>61950051Only rich people should have kids, the last thing the world needs now are more mid wits who think they deserve to be rich and are millionaires making small wages instead of mid wits who are getting paid their worth.
>>61950065What makes you worth what you really are, what value do you bring to the society?
>>61950073Think economically. There is the working class and the capitalist class. Stupid mid wit question lol. >muh society I copefarm reddit a lot, I know how poors think.
So Amerifriends, genuinely curious, why do you put up with it? As a top 5% earner in your country you should be able to retire after a few years and never work again. Why do you keep working? Do you love the grind so much?
>>61950084Your a retarded nigger who was born already rich go suck a dick
>>61950073> What makes you worth what you really areStupid reddit opinion. Brokies always saying the rich don’t deserve to be rich.
>>61950086I'm brazilian
>>61950086>inb4 5% brazilwideit's worldwide>inb4 kill yourselfi don't know how>inb4 just work for years more and retirei will snap before, i just know it.
>>61950073> What makes you worth what you really are, what value do you bring to the society?Why do you poorfags always say this What do you bring
>>61949967Have you considered giving it away and becoming friends with your beneficiaries? I'm close friends with a man who totally changed my life by helping to guide me in my education so I don't have to work dead end jobs. If you help me to make it then I'll be your friend and we can go do rich people shit like ride on jetskiis in the bahamas and go skiing in Switzerland.
>>61950110i am tempted to learning how people live happily with little. I don't want to do those things anymore to be honest. I just want to not work and sleep. Fun things in life aren't so fun anymore after the things I endured
>>61950117You just gotta enjoy the simple things man. It's the struggle that gives value to things. When you "have it all" it doesn't seem as nice. Try doing things that money CAN'T buy. Try making a modest garden with a budget of 20 bucks. Try fishing with a cheap rod from walmart, try buying old beater cars to fix up and sell at a fair price to the poors, try reading some art books and paint or draw stuff. Alternatively you could give it all to me so that there actually IS a struggle again which will make everything ACTUALLY have real tangible value. I'll give you enough back to make sure you don't die of course.
>>61950150thank you for being nice to me. I hate to be that guy but those things do not have appeal if i have to wake up at 6h30 and do stuff i find bad for the world for other people. God I am such a whiny bitch. I love life more than you can possibly imagine. Those things seem fun, they sound fun and I even see myself doing them. I used to love fishing. It's just that I have to wake up monday and forcibly interact with people and that makes everything lose all of the magic. Nothing matters if I am working.
>>61950170Why should anyone be nice to you?Look at your post here>>61950073You poorz, poor in and of itself isnt the issue, but your terrible attitudes are an issue. Here also—>>>61950087
>>61950186what do you mean?
>>61950186like, i understand you're trying to be mean but i'll answer anyway:>Why should anyone be nice to you?i never asked that but as an answer i think everyone should be nice to each other until given a reason not to>Look at your post here >>61950073 that's not my post>You poorz, poor in and of itself isnt the issue, but your terrible attitudes are an issue. is top 5% earner worldwide poor? i mean if one has to work, which is my case, they are poor, but anyway. What terrible attitudes?>Here also—> >>61950087I wasn't born rich but I also wasn't born poor, I grew up middle class in my cunt
>>61950170If you made it then just quit your job and go out and try new things? Wake up on your own time and interact with who you want.
>>61950370i didn't make it however. I need to toil for 4 to 5 years still if I were to live off passive investments
>>61950170>I have to wake up monday and forcibly interact with people and that makes everything lose all of the magic.so the real secret to happiness is actually liking other people and being interested in themyou're interested in yourself. That's how you stay unhappy because you're boring and lame. Other people are also boring and lame, but you don't know that about them yet. You should be having fun learning about other people because you don't know yet how much they suck.hope this helps. The alternative is to get drunk and then maybe you'll enjoy interacting with other people. You don't seem like the sort of person that's going to be happy with themselves, so you're going to need to be happy about other people.
>>61950376Well then just do what you gotta do >>61950390>so the real secret to happiness is actually liking other people and being interested in themUnfortunately. I have this issue with women because they're all utterly repulsive whores in my eyes, words struggle to convey the visceral negative emotions they make me feel. But I'm getting better, I'm starting to see them as little more than walking talking sex dolls with penis-deep openings that I can use to masturbate with. It's easier to like them when you stop perceiving them as people who are shitty individuals and more as unintelligent goyim (literal meaning) mean't to be used and taken advantage of.
>>61950084>There is the working class and the capitalist classThis isn't 1917 anymore grandpa. The modern working class *is* the capitalist class. The working class all have 401(k) accounts, which as of a few years ago hold bit over 50% of the US stock market.
>>61950150>Try fishing with a cheap rod from walmartThis. I'm a liquid multimillionaire and I've never had more fun than spending a day on the local lake, fishing for white perch from an aluminum jon-boat, using a cheap-as-fuck zebco rod and reel and some worms and a bobber. The best things in life may not be free, but they aren't very expensive.
>>61950429yes, using people is one way to be interested in themthe other way is to think of them as slightly more intelligent pets. Not everyone is your equal, but even the ones you can't respect can be entertaining and interesting. Learn how they think, dissect their behavior. People are very cool, at least as interesting as dogs and rabbits and other animals that are fun to watch and play with.and just like pets, you'll eventually realize you can't blame people for the way they are. They can't help it. You're also disgusting scum, you just don't realize it. And nobody should hate you for it, because you can't help it.
Another demotivational psyop thread?
>>61949967working to earn money was your first mistake
>>61950492Maybe. But in my mind I'm better than them, and by some metrics, that is factually correct.I hadn't really thought about seeing them as pets and studying them like live specimens. I guess it's a similar case to lefties thinking niggers are their equal just because they are similar shape and size and can communicate well enough. People are just niggers and I'm a british professor from the 19th century. They're not even REALLY people, just slightly more clever animals that are ethically ok to fuck.
>>61949967Weve all been lied to our whole lives and youve been pursuing the wrong things. Materialism, money, etc will never fulfill you. You need to do a serious psychedelic spiritual journey and reconnect with the true purpose of life, which is not to be a "top 5 percent earner". Good luck brother, remember you are the product of literally thousands of generations of people who have struggled to survive so you could be where you are at this exact moment
>>61950086Americans are cattleI hope they get enslaved some day
>>61950560>someday
>>61950539you choose metrics where you are better and ignore the millions where you fail.that's normal. But it won't make you happy. happiness comes when you stop caring about yourself. When you learn a little humility and start to actually appreciate other people.because, again, you are worthless. You're a real piece of shit. You're not better than anyone else and the best you can ever hope for is to be useful to some of those people you look down on.
i make 4k eur after tax in my eastern european shithole where the average wage is like 1.2k and im coping daily
>>61950591I think you're mistaking me for OP. I'm quite content with my lot. Having fuckloads of money would only improve my life, barring the genie-esque consequences of suddenly becoming wealthy. Other than that there are a lot of things I like that I'd like to do more of but can't because I have no money.I've said it before but money isn't about happiness, it's about enabling the conditions to BE happy, ie not homeless, impoverished, starving, a slave, etc.
>>61950020Boomers are scum.
>>61950679>I think you're mistaking me for OP.yes>I've said it before but money isn't about happiness, it's about enabling the conditions to BE happy, ie not homeless, impoverished, starving, a slave, etc.that's very truethough you will find plenty of people who are happy being homeless or broke or enslavedin fact it's often true that people are happier when things are going to shit because they have something to work on.
>>61949967Find twitch streamers (broodwar, héroes of might and aoe2 streamers are not scammers) watch vtubers, that shit will make you smile
>>61950689I don't know that it's necessarily having something to work on, theres ALWAYS something to work on. I think it's more about the cathartic feeling of letting go and being worry free. Things can't get any worse so why stress about it? I've already learned that though. If I'm late for work, fuck it, rushing and being anxious isn't going to change that, just chill out and get lunch before you go in, they're going to give you a point anyways. That's the approach I use with everything. Fuck it, not my problem. Kinda shitty in a way, but it's either that or stressing myself into an early grave.I think the people who are unhappy with money are just too tightly wound up. They don't know how to just chill the fuck out. Oh no I have lots of money and I might lose it someday so I'm going to stress about it and completely forget to just enjoy not working myself to death to earn a small fraction of it. Like just chill out man, it's not that serious. Don't be a moron with it, but don't make your hair fall out. As long as you spend and invest wisely then you'll never be on the same thin margins as your typical goycattle living paycheck to paycheck.
>>61950743Good point but I think it can have opposite resultsPeople are often happy with something they NEED to work onI've been essentially retired for 20 years now. I don't worry about money, there's nothing in particular I NEED to do. Sure there's an endless supply of things I COULD do, but none of them NEED to be done.this can lead to unhappiness from the other extreme. I have nothing to worry about and that's boring. Once I've done everything I want to do there's not a lot left to do. maybe happiness is best found in the middle.not stressing overly much about stuff outside your control, but also not being entirely free of things that need to be done. I.e., have something you need to do, but don't worry too much about it.
Lately I have been thinking about selling or junking so much shit. I hate owning stuff. It just adds to a giant maintenance and depreciation treadmill that I have to account for.
>>61949967I have a video game idea if you want to go all in on it with me. I've been working on it for 6 months
>as you get paid more, you just get more responsibilities
>>61950051I fucking hate this state. They're everywhere and they're disgusting. We even have an exit tax if you try to move states, and we have the highest property taxes in the country which all get funneled into politicians' pockets and welfare animals.
>>61950770That sounds reasonable to me. Just be a chill guy essentially. Set deadlines for yourself, create business, not A business necessarily, but just HAVE business to attend to. Things to keep you occupied, things that require attention without being so pressing that it can become a real problem for you. I've been at the extreme of the low end, practically begging for a job and coming a cunt hair away from living in my car also sucks extremely hard. I'd like to make such a reality as distant from ever becoming a reality as I possibly can. You need to have SOME push to keep going, without being real deal in danger of getting irreparably fucked up.
>>61950794Not really. If you become properly wealthy then you get paid more with LESS responsibility, if you're a wagie then you get more responsibility without getting paid more, or if you're a tradie THEN your pass increases with your level of responsibility.
>>61949967quit and go do something you like
>>61950170you are just naive, the reason why you hate working probably has to do with your perception or environment, this place for instance, filled with incels and neets larping as millionaires who don't work and give off the impression that not working is rewarding, lmao, the moment you lose your job is when reality will hit and you'll be exposed as the naive fool that you are, you have no experience of not working so your feelings about working will always be unreliable, either that or you are just a whiny coward who doesn't really know what they want and doesn't have the balls to find out
Do you have a small penis? If you do just kys. It will never get better
>>61950094Here is a breakdown, you believe that:>Anyone who was born rich deserves to be rich even of he was a pedo kike who kills two human everyday>Anyone who was born poor deserves to be poor even if he is 400% positive to the society than youPeople like you should be killed publicly and have people spit and piss in your face
>>61951017And if I have a big one like 97% bigger than the average what should I do with it?
>>61949967its not really that complicated
>>61949967charizard > pikachu
>>61949967Because the world is miserable now and has been made deliberately so to achieve some as yet unknown objective.It doesn't matter if you earn good money and the world is burning down around you.
>>6195008695th percentile individual income in muttistan is $250k a year before taxes. after taxes that is maybe $180k. the average plywood box home sells for $400k these days, potentially much more if you live in a high cost of living area. the reality is that most americans are poor as fucking hell. someone who makes $250k/yr makes more than 95% of americans but still has to work for more than two yeara just to buy a fucking plywood box built by dirt shitskinned illegal immigrant construction workers.
>im a le top 5% nigger and im a nigger as long as i nigger i will always be niggering. at niggernein ive been thinking about niggering weekly since I left the plantation. Niggers kicked me out and I dont give a flying nigger. Call m nigger and whatever or discuss what to nigger about it.
>>61950782Same I hate having so much stuff. It stresses me out.
This board never fails to be a useful reminder that a nigger stays a nigger no matter how much money they are given.
>>61952728Yeah most Americans are poor as hell. Even 95 percentile people are poor and don’t own assets. > someone who makes $250k/yr makes more than 95% of americans but still has to work for more than two yeara just to buy a fucking plywood box built by dirt shitskinned illegal immigrant construction workers.This is why there is networth vs income.
>>61952728Not only are Americans poor as hell, the rest of the people in other countries are even poorer. lmao
>>61950000SHALOM, QUADS OF YAHWEH
>>61949967It's over if you weren't part of the top 10%
I'm a bottom 10% earner and quite happy with my life. Poultry farming. Keep my own schedule. Outdoors all day, watch the sun and moon. I carry a sidearm. I could definitely use more revenue for farm buildings and equipment. But I'll never move back to a city nor get another corporate job. For depression, try the following: 1) zeolite heavy metal detox 1 month 2) keto diet3) NAC supplement
>>61953999This statistic is misleading. The majority of US millionaires are boomers sitting on inflated home equity. Only 1-2% of Americans are millionaires in terms of cash / liquid assets.
>>61954040Based
>>61954040I second the NAC suppliment but add Glycine with it and you need to cycle it so your endogenous glutathione pathways doesnt become over supplemented.
>>61949967I'm a 5% earner and happy AF.
>>61949967if you are 29 and making top 5% income, that means you are making at least $250k/yrAssuming you are paying normal taxes on this, you are taking home $160k minimum, but probably vcloser to $200kHow are you not saving at least $100k a year?You need to get yourself an exit plan and focus on that.Save as much as you can and invest it. like make a game of saving and it slowly changes the way you think so that you get more joy out of not buying a $11 boba tea than you ever would spending the $11.Every night, go home and think about all the money you saved by NOT buying something and immediately put that into your schwab account.Buy a fairly stable high dividend stock - probably a reit or mreit. Dynex (DX) is paying 14% right now.Right now, put $100 k into something like thatAdd $10k every monthAt this time next year, you will have $220kin 2 years, you will have $360kIn 3 years, $530kin 5 years, $1 millionwhen you are 35, quityou will be making $120 -150k a year just on dividendstake a collateralized loan form your brokerage (below mortgage rate) and buy a duplex.Live in half and rent the other half; tenant pays 75% of mortgage, insurance, taxes and utilitiesAfter 3 years, buy a regular house and move into it. rent out both halves of du-plexNow you are 40 years old, have $400k in real estate quity, $1-1.5 million in dividend paying stocks; and $200k annual passive incomeleverage income and equity into more real estate.
>>61949967I make literally only 3% of your income, OP. Around $7.5k/year. I'm happy and still have managed to travel internationally and buy stupid shit for fun. Why are people such fags these days. Se não tá feliz me dá só 1% dessa merda and I'd put to a better use than you lmao>>61952711I don't know why everyone is so gloomy nowadays. Probably social media algorithms. How exactly is the world nowadays any more miserable than before?>inb4 wars, the economyAlways existed and were worse>muh housingWork remotely from low CoL place, or rent in the big expensive city if necessary. Buy and retire in a peaceful small town in the middle of nowhere for dirt cheap, if you're a firstie you can even retire abroad with incredible QoL in a large metropolis. Shit is so easy even if you're just an average earner
>>61949967Also fake and gay. Sendo brasileiro there is no way you cannot immediately stop working within 3 years or even less, if you really want to. 4 fodendo milhões de reais, mesmo gastando 1 milhão em 3 anos ainda sobram 3 milhões. 100% do CDI hoje isso dá R$30.000 por mês, porra. Quase o que eu ganho num ano, isso com tu SEM TRABALHAR
>>61949967Have as many kids as you can and buy as many guns as you can. You'll still want to kill yourself, might want to kill yourself moreBut you'll be too into guns that you won't shoot yourself because you won't want to contribute to the annual gun deaths statistic, and you won't kill yourself because you'll keep telling yourself you haven't saved enough to leave behind for the goobersAlso be the parent you want to be not the parent you got. I don't breathe a word to my parents and they've fucked me over financially and logistically worse than anyone else in my entire life. But I love my wife and kid and I literally brave the fucking coal mines every day to provide for them
>>61950626That's actually good. I do the work for 2 people in corporate and they pay me 620 euro netto.
>>61949967use your incredible earning power to establish a livable source of passive income and retirewhy would you keep working if you don't have to?
>>61950117the ancients tell us that true happiness comes from a lifetime of personal development
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