day 361 of growing my charizard collection till it hits $1mil"151" singles going up crazy this week, you got any?
How do i make money of off this?Been doing some research and this really seems like a market oversaturated with scammers.
>>61988750Why would you go after any card made in the past 10 years?If you are not liquidating modern in favour of going after cards made before Platinum then you're a fool.
>>61988867This guy's got six pieces of card stock encased in plastic and thinks its going to a mil just bc it has the word charizard on it. He is already too far gone and I await the day he gives up on trying to make this a valid subforum.
Its hilarious that he paid to have them graded.
>>61988772>How do i make money of off this?for easiest lowest risk gains you buy pokemon sealed product (booster boxes etc)i just collect charizards for a hobby + always goes up longterm too (more fun than collecting boxes of sealed stuff)
>>61988944None of those are charizards.
>>61988962charizard isnt real
>>61989096Collecting off brand charizards reeks of cope. You missed the train, go collect something you care about.
Good luck liquidating!
By chance, are you Hispanic?
>>61988750Did you even play pokemon in the 90's?
>>61988750Did you get the 1st edition PSA 10 base set zard yet?
>>61988750cool i had dark charizard as a kid
>>61988772buy sealed product, dont open it ever under any circumstances. or buy singles of elite players/characters. ohtani last 180 days.
>>61988750Virgo general #90
>>61989331yeah course every millennial did
>>61989623based dark zard is iconic
>>61989327sombero zard would kinda be a funny one
>>61988750https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZYZoQQ6LJQ&list=RDJZYZoQQ6LJQ&start_radio=1
>>61992383nice pickup anon
Next pickup gonna get it raw tho nm 1st edition only
>>61988750Based zard tard
I got a PSA 8 foil 1st edition Victreebell a couple weeks ago from Ebay. It's pretty cool. I'm an old head MtG player, but have a few pokemon cards from way back when they came out. In an airport terminal now, else I'd post some pics. This is my favorite general on the board anon, nice job as usual and keep stackin'.
Thoughts on stacking boxes of 151 Scarlet & Violet?
>>61993069smarter 6 months ago anon kek they've mooned without you, maybe get prismatic or paldean fates or other 151 products
>>61993069Are you retarded?
>>61993069>>61993135>>61993196The supply is all gone. Everyone says they are holding this. News flash: they aren’t. At most they have one box that they will never sell but will open one depressing rainy night to get $3 in hits. 151 will unironically 3x from here. $1800 eoy or I cut my Charizard in half.
>>61993357dont you harm that zard
>>61992821agreed>>61992762the psa 9 is going for 3k right now on a cash deal. you can hit up eBay sellers on instagram and do a deal over Zelle. it's a common practice.pic related is my latest pickup.
>>61993069Played outToo much movement
>>61993357I regret to inform you that you are retarded.
>>61994028you sound jealous anon
>>61993069Holding 5 cases of Etbs + 10 upcs Not selling until etb is 1500ea
>>61994895proof
>>61988750Ill never understand thisthe generation that grew up with pokemon phased out of the TCG after the 2nd or 3rd set was released. even the people that still played with card moved on to yugioh or more into video games by thenpeople have no sentimental attachment to these random sets, so why would those cards hold any value in the future? they use ugly computer art, arent rare, and dont really hold any clout like an original charizard does
>>61995045>ugly computer artthat is subjective, an increasing amount of women are buying pokemon cards because of how cute the card arts are>aren't raredepends on your definition of rare but the good cards aren't that easy to find either though>dont really hold any clout like an original charizardhence why they are the price they are.
>>61995045You have to get over the emotional damage of realising that your childhood stack is probably worth over 100k+ now.You can rebuild, theres still time. Pokemon cards can still easily x100. >you are here
>>61994873The only people buying these now are people trying to make money off them. I would say you are the greater fool but you are in actuality retarded and I dont want to be mean.
>>61995101this sums it up
>>61995667its a mix anon, people like to collect and know it will at least keep value, much like the traditional fine art market are you saying they're all just trying to make money?
Man I fucking hate pokemon so much, sometimes I’m tempted to sell everything in bulk to some fat retard shop owner for 500k but I know if I slowly drip feed sell everything over the course of 20 years I’ll make double that. This is “ hobby” is literal torture from the minds of hell.
>>61993069What the fuck is this gay shit?
>>61993069Is that a tampon box for your mythical characters? Fucking losers
>>61995710>>61995714
>>61995698>over the course of 20 years I’ll make double thatyou'd make double if you held it 2 years kek
>>61995690>Are you trying to agree with this strawman argument that has nothing to do with what you are actually saying??Nice try
>>61997096>The only people buying these now are people trying to make money off them>are you saying they're all just trying to make money?how is that a different argument
pokemon is one giant ponzi scheme like other collectable bubbles it works like this>((((auction houses)))) and (((((influencers))))) see a hobby or interest that is easy to corner the market with, a rare game or card or whatever BS, either buy up the supply and then once they control the supply, just keep selling it back and forth to themselves or other people in their circle at increasingly higher prices, also see (((private sales))) on instagram or forums where people can just announce that they have sold card at a certain price without any proofs>now every retard who had 0 interest in these cards despite them being sat for a decade on ebay shops for 1/100th of their current prices are now all piling in, and thus the "pokeinvestor" is born>also add ridiculous premiums for ((((grading)))), the graders then charge not for just their grading service but you get charged based on the final value of the card, so now all these cards are at retarded hyperinflated prices, it's basically a licence to print money because they charge on the cards perceived worth>oh also i forgot to add, these large collectible auction houses are run by people who have been fined in the past for manipulating coin markets in the 80s>oh i forgot to mention that in auction houses TOS they reserve the right to bid on their own item. this means anyone else bidding on the items against the auction houses is instantly at a 20-30% disadvantage because the auction house doesnt have to pay the buyers fee>add to that all of the other bullshit companies surrounding it and their (((ceos)))), even bullshit like whatnot now has a RICO lol.....the rabbit hole goes so deep, there's just a whole web of companies involved and this is why now any hobby that was once enjoyable like retro gaming or trading cards is now just a bullshit scam with retards telling you it's an investment
I’m playing poker right now and all these faggots are talking about pokemon chizard cards. Fuck all you pokemon bitch whores
>>61997312Youre hoping I'll agree with your premise that pokemon cards are comparable with fine art, which they arent, and your premise is retarded, and yet not surprising. My only regret when the market for these collapses will be that you all will disappear from biz and I will be unable to dougie on your graves. I shall dougie nonetheless.
The true alpha is club penguin collectibles. >200 million registered players>Nintendo DS and Wii games>Multiple different card sets for their Card Jitsu game>Books and Magazines>Older gen Z will see it as vintage soonI may not be smart but I am gen z and i know eventually people will start buying club penguin collectibles, probably ironically at first but all it takes is for 1 video or tweet to go viral until many more follow suit.
>>61997432im not going anywhere anon i been posting this thread for like 2 years anon
>>61997781Kabuto king did it better
I don't bother with Pokemon, I just hit up treasuremage.com and snipe whatever I can at the $0.01 mark and whenever the autobidders stop. It's basically a game of taking candy from magicbros. People in the chat keep getting mad that I'm not "playing fair" but I don't care, I have too much autism to ever stop getting cheapies at their expense.
>>61997923Wow bro you’re going to be so rich one day stealing pennies.
>>61994028>>61993069Kek it’s already pushing $700. After twenty more sales there’s no quantity left until $1000. It’s basically the thinnest sell wall you could imagine.Anyone could have bought at $500 when this thread was made and sell for $1000 next week. Easiest double you’ve ever made. But no, you have to be big brain contrarians.
>>61997922kabuto king has only been on twitter 6 months lol plus hes collecting a low demand pokemon
>>61997922>>61998734also kabuto king is logan paul so praising him is cringe and gay
>>61998736kek you think so?
>>61998734Bro you are collecting a low demand pokemon. Your Walmart brand charizards are garbage. You missed out.
>>61988772it's nft's all over again
>>61999635>charizard>low demand pokemon
>>61997432I actually trade Banksy prints, for a full time income. Anon the art world is a dumpster fire right now Banksy prices are down like -x5 from the ATH in 2021. Pokemon has better potential. Ask GPT what a solid investment is for 2026 and it probably tell you Pokemon. If every person in the world asks chatgpt what to invest in and ChatGPT keeps telling normies 'pokemon cards' its going to do a x100
>>62000315facts
>>62000043None of those are charizards. I know you want to think so but they are not. You have missed out.
>>62000043You probably lie awake at night and put your thumb over the pokemon celebrations logo and dream of being into pokemon back in the late 90s. You will never experience the sweet anguish of opening an og booster pack and all you get is a shitty super energy removal. You will only ever know bumping shoulders with skeevy 45 y.o.pokemon scalpers that live on unemployment.
Only 13,303 PSA graded shadowless charizard's exist in the entire world (currently) 13,000 Shadowless Charazard vs 20M BTCI was about for the early bitcoin days. Pokemon cards collection (CHARAZARD Maximalism) Is the best strat. OG charizard maximalists will become the new global elite. You will see
>>62001219exactly theres not enough charizards for everyone, over time the millionaires will fight to acquire them
>>62001311Do you think of the things you say before they're said or does it just spill out of you like so much diarrhea?Why would millionaires be interested in buying something whose value is predicated on millionaires one day wanting it? They are already millionaires. Its not even 1 of 1 so they cant use it for tax fraud like fine art.
>>61988772just send in your 45k dollar card to psa bro! you can trust emhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SxUzJG9x_Q
>>62001219you know buttcorns are divisible by satoshis right meaning there are like 2.1 quadrillion
screen cap this
>>61989692Ok how liquid are cards though, half the prices are made up and never sell for that much. Ive seen cards up on ebay sit there for years.
>>62001798depends on the rarity. base cards, refractors, common parallels, and numbered cards that have a print run of like 50-300 can move pretty quick. It's once you get to the expensive cards like a 1 out of 10 print run card where it could take a while for someone to bid on it.
Try to invest by getting a bunch of hidden fates boxes and tins, they reprint the fuck out of the set, barely keeps up with inflation over 10 years, fuck you nintendo
>>62001790dumbass nigga those are all weighed
>>61988750Meanwhile the Chinese are learning hard science
>>62002498well actually the chinese are using graded cards to launder yuan kek
This zard is one of the best looking cards they've put out IMO. Prob gonna grab one to keep and one to sell in the future
>>62002863This shit is ugly and doesn't even look like a pokemon card>Mega Charizard>The mega evolved form of charizardNo shit??Why tf are his wings scalloped? That doesn't even make sense.You can barely even see him bc the card is so fucking busy. Shits ugly.
>>62002863This is the ideal card. Have some god damn taste.
Virgins
>>62002863based good choice anon i need to grab one too
Hi kids sorry I bought all of your pocket mon card things
>>62005514nice umbreon anon, did you get it recently or afew years ago?
>>62005539TodayUmbreon $1,000,000 EOY
I also heard this is a top card that will do an easy x5 - x10 by next year
>>62005572kek
Pokemon is the only thing in my portfolio that is going up right now. >my new ditto
>>62006998nice 1st edition ditto anon how much did it cost ya?
>>62007161I paid 4k for it. I picked up a few other slabs when it was 2k and missed it. wanted to get in when I heard another seller saying they're getting offers over 5k. I also have a bgs 9.5 which I'll likely sell in a year or two. scooped that for 600 and will try to flip it for 2k maybe.
>>62007161picked this guy up too>you cant flim flam the zim zam
>>61988750Extremely faggot coded
>>62007290based zim zam
I went to a show today, All-in Expo. There were some good cards but I’m just totally fucking broke right now so I decided to hold onto the cash. I did finally get my new ditto in the mail. I’d rather this than a bunch of high pop Japanese (for now).
>>62012726nice
my girls. just need May from Pokemon and i'm set
>>62013216dragonballz is super niche but good luck anon
>>61995667Not a collector, but’ve read these cards are being used for money laundering. Especially in Asia. That is actually pretty interesting.
Collecting baseball cards is the most retarded shit you niggers can do
>>62013371Shohei Ohtani has made me more money in the past 2 years than any other investment of mine in that time span.
>>62013298i know. i just wanted to post my cards :)
>>62013298Unlike your Kirkland brand charizards?
>>62001163This. They're actually dittos.
>>62013447kek
Pokemon card shops are coming everywhere and are hitting highstreets like vape shops. It's a hybrid mashup of Cash Converters and Betting shops for kids. Shops/scalpers buys packs from wholesalers, then breakdown and sell to kids, kid wants rare card worth $$$$$$, rips open packet costing $50 for 1 in 1000 chance to find card worth $500. Spends $3000+ over 1 year to find cards only worth $250. Sells back to pokemon card shop who sold him packs back for $100 to open 2 more losing packs. >pokemon card shops are legal casinos for kids
>>61988750Bro this is retarded just open a brokerage account and dca into a low expense index fund. Collecting card stock is a fine hobby but hedging your financial future and dropping thousands to acquire cards is silly.
>>62014508i do have crypto (and index funds) this is a side-investment hobby
How the fuck are 151 booster bundles going for almost $200? They printed this set to death.
>>62015187for every booster printed the US government printed even more money
Virgin bitch ass fags
>>62015252you sould jealous
>>62015187because people know they'll be rare and $500+ in 5-10 years, so why wouldnt you buy at $150?
Your cards aren't worth anything until you've sold them.
>>62016142Ok but that's irrelevant when you see the volume and the amount of sales for these cards. The fact that the boxes these cards come in keep increasing in value is a direct indicator that the good cards in said boxes are doing just fine and won't have a problem being sold.
>>62016155Gonna let you in on a secret here anon:Sellers buy their own auctions to make people think genuine listings are completing at those prices and the items really are "worth" that much.
>>62016157I'll let you in on a secret here anon:Every weekend across the country there are local card shops where people hand you actual cash in return for these cards and ebay is not the only place where transactions happen. Yes what you said happens when the population of a card is low enough for it to matter but when hundreds, sometimes thousands of sales are happening on a frequent basis, it reaches a point where you realize that just is the value of the card rather than it being shill bidded.
>>62016163Gonna let you in on another secret here anon:I used to play MtG and our local game store used online prices of single cards to determine in-store prices. A single usually high priced sale of a card could cause every single game store to raise their prices.Trading cards are a completely unregulated asset. You're a fucking rube if you don't think their prices aren't being manipulated like fuck.
>>62016157>>62016157>>62016163>>62016195>Here’s another little secret:Arguing game theory on trading card price consensus, price manipulation and long term investment impacts means you lost. YNBAW
>>62016195>You're a fucking rube if you don't think their prices aren't being manipulated like fuck.so just like any asset then
>>62016157>>62016195So you're saying I can just buy cards and a whole army of scammers will pump my bags for free?
I never got into magic but from I saw indirectly there's a lot of dei and similar stuff there. Any themes/sets/etc without all that?
>>62017373Yes.
>>62017392Do I have to look for old stuff or is there a point before like 201X I need to look for
>>62017400Anything pre-2010 should be fine. I don't recommend collecting individual cards though since their value is often dependent on how playable they are and there's like a million formats each with their own meta and ban lists while WOTC can just decide to reprint anything when it gains value. Supposedly there are cards that they'll never reprit but they've already broken that rule just a few years ago. Then cards like 'Invoke Prejudice' are on a special kind of bannde and no-reprint list because of the art, name and mechanics being basically a race joke.There's also a high risk of scams for old sealed products. Like its genuinely a fucking minefield where most of the money is made in buying new sealed product and just sitting on it for 10 years.
I got like 40 of these and loads more gooner cards
Post your holy grail(s)
>>62019653what the heck is that (looks like pot of greed without the pot kek)
>>62020251Frog the Jam
>>62020708kek that name
>>62016059How the fuck are they rare? People are literally hoarding hundreds of these in their closets. Rare is a sealed base set. 151 will never be as rare any pre-SwSh era set.
>>62023061>People are literally hoarding hundreds of these in their closetsthat doesnt stop it from being rare in 5-10 years anon, literally everyone said the same thing about Evolving Skies and its already getting rareryou underestimate demand
>>62023061and of course im not meaning base set "rare" otherwise you'd add a 0 onto that $500
>>62023149>you underestimate demandAlso overestimating how many people actually can manage to hold onto hundreds of boxes over several years. The amount of people capable and willing to spend thousands of dollars to buy boxes that just set in storage for years is very small. They're almost universally considered morons. Everyone brings up beanie babies, NFTs, pogs, graded video games, comics etc. which are all the reasons they personally talked themselves out of buying goofy items like pokemon. That pokemon has been around for three decades and its been the same story with every set never seems to set in.
>>62024180The reason sports cards crashed in the 90s was because everyone started hoarding set boxes. Then if you wanted to sell one, the only people who would want to buy from you already had ten. This shit is no different. It doesn’t work when there’s too many people in on it.
I bought this in 2024 when it was 11.5k…is it really worth 40k now? I feel I’m holding the Bitcoin of Pokemon cards
>>62024593How about you try and sell it. How about dat
>>62024674My total collection is probably 200k. It’s worth more than what any crypto shit ever made for me
>>62024733you make nothing until you sell
>>62024733Damn, nice stack anon. What % of your networth is cards? Think it’s a good long term play?
>>62024593>>62024733based that 1st edition will be $50k before you know it
>>62024593>>62024733Outstanding. Here’s my base set. They’re mostly thick stamps.
>>62028394are you australian? haha get it upside down
>>62028400How did you know? Also, shut up.
>>62024733The best part about having so much fiat value in these stupid cards is that at some point pretty soon there’s going to be a gold re-valuation. And the fiat value of your useless cards is going to plummet like a rock in the ocean. And you will probably end up suiciding knowing that had you just sold now for 50 ounces of gold you would have made it beyond your wildest dreams. I mean if it was still 2017 or whatever and there wasn’t an impending doom on the horizon and things were still more or less normal I’d be fine with holding the cards. But now? Almost 40 trillion in debt, all this shit on Iran happening and clearly there is some sort of reset coming. And you’re still holding onto your virgin cards. So stupid.
>>62028438sound jealous anon
>>62028438>fiat value of your useless cardsnot sure if you can use this example when people are trading btc for OG zards
>>62028438>the best part about other people collecting cards is that I get to feel smug about a possible scenario I dreamt up in my head where untold billions experience the worst economic collapse in the history of capitalism. Man I'm going to be rich when there's no food in the stores and the power goes out and doesn't come back on.
>>62028449At least with crypto over gold/silver you are gonna be going along for the ride since smart contracts and all that bullshit is going to become a thing. These pokemon gay ass cards have nothing about them. Just a bunch of other faggots who like them. The market is going to crash and you dumbfucks are going to get raped.
Pokemon is for niggers and spics now, sorry OP
