>alright, sir, one last question, what's your body count?
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man I just wish to be a NEET again, no more waging
>>61996559>((unprepared))Lol if your company is worried about shit like this, then it's probably a terrible place to work with high turnover.
>>61996559>>61996657My cousin is a girl in her prime, she showed me her dating app messages. She literally got 200 messages from random men in about an hour on a saturday. Modern dating is very much a humiliation ritual. When An average woman creates an online dating profile or a social media profile she has instant access and attention from thousands of men from all over the country/world at the a same time. Average men cannot keep up with the hyper-socialization, attention maxing, consumerist and feminist lifestyle of the modern woman. Also they lose their virginity way before you will marry them. Prostituion might as well be legalized because what we have now is basically mass large scale prostitution of women via dating apps and social media. Any man who is actively chasing used goods whores online is basically asking for financial rape and being made into the ultimate cuck in his own personal life
I'm 25 and still haven't been on a date. It's literally impossible to get one with a woman, which is fine with me. I don't think they should just lower their standards or I should "force" the dating market. More money for me I guess.
Aren't they only hiring in India these days?
>>61996559>Oh no! How will we squeeze as much productivity out of the wagies as we can if we can't hold their childrens' wellbeing over their heads?
I'm 35 yo khhv. Anyone else?
>>61996559swallowed or spat?
>>61996559>couldawesome story
>>61996559Tired of normalfaggot bullshit.
>>61996934Oh boy, are you in for a treat for the rest of your existence
>>61996732Why are record numbers of young women single then?
>>61996961They're all Chad's sidepiece
>>61996972Some of them. Others are probably addicted to doomscrolling and larping as independent.
If you cant pass the hr Stacy phone interview you'll never get a job
>>61996732women know that it's all just bots and psychos spamming messages. online and offline it's an absolute desert. normal men don't approach, and both men and women are hyperattuned to possible threats, so they will cuck themselves out of reflex if an opportunity even arises at all
>>61996961Still low actually
>>61996961>>61996972>>61997016No woman is ever really "single"...in fact women desire sex for validation more than men do. If a woman says she is "single" she is still getting dick from somewhere...Most women are addicted to attention maxxing. Its why their egos are insanely huge. A girl who was a 5/10 used to be overlooked before social media proliferation. She did not have access to internet/ posting provocative pictures of herself, and having an inbox full of horny men looking for a hookup. Now that same 5/10 can get validation from thousands of simps online while at the same time being in a harem of women all chasing the same chad. Women are herd creatures. If one of them wants to fuck chad, then they all do. They have infantile brains. They will think a guy is gross if their friends say that he is gross. They will all fuck the same guy if one of her friends is doing it. They are like cattle. They don't do anything without validation from other females first.
Is 4chins full of zoomers?
>>61997103You don't really see a whole lot of women living the single life nowdays and supporting themselves. They almost always cling onto a beta provider, or she has unlimited access to her daddies credit card. I know that men can go a lot longer without sex than women can. Women need to feel secure and they get very insecure being single and when her hole isnt being stretched multiple times a week. Thats why feminism has failed. In Europe the women used to literally live at home with their parents until a suitable man came along that asked her hand in marriage. You didn't have ((((college educated))) women who have been fucked silly in college then going into a career afterwards. It delays child birth and marriage until they are past their prime. The result is mass whoring, low birthrates, decling fertility, and the destruction of the nuclear family. Now instead of being courted by a male from her home town as a virgin, the women have had multiple partners by the time they are 22 and chasing careers. The effects are devastating.
>>61997117Oldest zoomers are reaching 30 (I might be from the oldest zoomer cohort, depending from which date you begin to count them), so not surprising.
>>61996873>>61996699>>61996790Am millennialOnly want either remote jobs, or in person jobs that pay good or let me work 80hours a weekI need money, motherfuckers, or comfort. Stop wasting my time with 44 hour a week jobs where I'm not paid the 4 hours in lunch and breaks but can't go home early either. Fuck off with that noise.
>>61996961Answer is covid. Last 6 years of dating and shit was interrupted. There's a whole span of women 29-40 who thought they'd settle down in the early 2020s who got memed to death. This is also why age gap hysteria is rising rapidly, because those women think by reducing a man's options, they'll make their blow out pussy more attractive.
>>61997115In the modern woman's head, settling for a guy with a job is a tragedy. The modern failed dating market is because women used to 'wise up' and 'settle' around the time they were 25, but now you have women waiting wll into their 30s before they realize chad isn't gonna marry them. But by then, mr. betabux doesn't want them either.
>>61997160>>61997117>that 30 year old zoomer boomer
>>61997115>If one of them wants to fuck chad, then they all do. They have infantile brains. They will think a guy is gross if their friends say that he is gross. They will all fuck the same guy if one of her friends is doing it.A girl I knew in high school once tried to bribe me by saying "If I tell my friend to date you this summer she will do it"She was trying to get me to spill the beans on who told me a secret about herI can't remember what happened but I was too spergy to take advantage and say yes
>>61996559Makes sense. As an incel work feels more pointless the more I age. I lose nothing if I'm fired, I'm only working so I can stop working. If you're married you can at least worry about having enough money for your wife and kids.
>>61996559I'm 36, 0 women. I never tried doing anything past texting with women. Most of the time they turn me down. I called one girl who gave me her phone once. I did 99% of the talking, I could hear her breathing excitedly and she could barely speak. Too bad she was a dumbass and I ditched her. This was 11 years ago. That's the closest I got to pussy, a phone call.All this effort, and for what? Getting your dick wet for 15 minutes every other day? >>61997381On the other hand, my coworkers who are parents are always taking sick leaves and go home early because of their kids.
>>61996961Why get married when hundreds of simps are throwing money at them? Marriage is for roasties (with 3 children from different men) that have hit the wall and can't coast along on gibs from their dwindling legion of orbiters.
>>61998615It's to make babies and have someone to hold hands with as you get old.Literally.Sex is just the appetizer.
>>61996732i get 100 messages if i open grindr for 1 second but I don't talk to any of them, and never met anyone off there because im reclusive and traumatized
>>61998972It’s fine if you want to have kids. However this is what retards have been tricked into thinking because they eat poisonous mainstream food that makes you decrepit. People used to be able to take care of themselves well into 100 years old.
>>61998615>every other day?my wife is 27. it's once a week.
>>61998972I'll think about it when I reach 40. I'll try to score with 30 year old roasties who will be fine with the age gap.>>61999802And I assume you don't have the luxury to jerk off to porn on 4k TV for an hour or two like me every other day? That's one of the things being in a relationship, most women see porn as equivalent to cheating, even most open minded liberal ones. Only completely deranged harlots will be fine with porn, but those will fuck you every day anyway even during their period.
>>61996559>could impact their work performancekek
>>61996559
>>61996732Prostitution doesn't need to be legalized.I actually like the legal gray area prostitution that we have going on right now. Keeps all the stupid normies out. If it becomes legalized, normies would ruin it just like they ruined everything else.
>>61996559Men are checking out of society at an alarming rate
>>62000230Supply would go up, price would go down.The average man would be able to rent relatively cheap pussy, partially solving the hoeflation issue.All societal problems are downstream of the state.
>>61996732Absolute Trvke>>61996961>singleThey are just not settling down, they fuck like 6 different men on a weekend
>>61996559The headline is partially true. If some dude isn't married and doesn't have kids, or he can't even get mediocre pussy because the top 5% of men are passing around the top 60% of women, ya, he probably doesn't see the point in busting his ass ar work. Might as well do the bare minimum just to cover the bills, food and video games.
>>61996559How? I’m a late millenial and tinder has made meeting women willing to date me easier than ever. You kids have no idea how hard it was when your options were cold approaching women (with no idea of their relationship status) or talking to them while being drunk at a bar.
>>61996961they choose to be used and believe they are gaining something out of it>>62000230it's practically legal. you're right in that it keeps the retards out.
>>61996961because they get boned by men who'll never commit to them.
>>61996559UHHHHUHHHHHHSIX SEVEN?!?!
>>62000629Completely false bullshit.I'm a '94 millennial. Dating was EXTREMELY easy from high-school up through 2016, including cold approaching. Women collectively went insane in the USA after Trump was sworn into power.Unless you're just bragging about fucking fat skanks and single mothers, but that's not what men are bitching about. Men are complaining about the fact that after 2016 most women felt it was okay to shove their wacko feminist bullshit in your face on a date, or on their profiles. 70% of women are overweight or obese. 20% - 25% are on SSRI nutcase drugs. And most of them have their dopamine receptors destroyed by 25 from the copious amounts of cock and partying they've done.Real men don't want to Jestermaxx or Simp for a fat boss-bitch. There are maybe 3% - 5% of good women left. Those good women are getting snatched-up by top 5%ers in their late teens and early 20s. Even if you're a top 10% guy, your choices are settling for a fat hog, a slut single mother in her late 20s to early 30s, or being alone forever.
>>62000629Smells like a bot post. I'm older than you claim to be and Tinder has been a wasteland for years. 2013-2018 or aroundabout then was the golden age. Now everyone is on Hinge or other apps, tinder is like 90% men 5% bots and 5% the grossest women you'll find on dating apps.>when your options were cold approaching women (with no idea of their relationship status) or talking to them while being drunk at a barBro what the fuck are you on about? Unless you're a total retard meeting women IRL used to be so much easier and better. I'm a fat obnoxious sperg that didn't lose his v card until 20 but even I figured it out and had some nice girlfriends in college that I wooed in person. You can't do that anymore precisely BECAUSE of social media and dating apps - women have their pick of the litter just by picking up their phones and opening DMs. They don't need to look for dick IRL anymore so they write off anyone approaching them entirely unless it's gigachad.
>>62000711/fucking thread
>>62000702I found the exact opposite to be true, but to be fair before 2015 I was highly autistic. Once I figured women out dating was ez. Burned through quite a few but have a good one now.
>>62000702also I think dating was super easy right after covid because women got really lonely, I think it's "back to normal" now though
>>619965595could've been 7 but couldn't get it up lol
>>61996732>>61997115>>61997138Bro is dropping the entire truthclear arsenal ITT
>>62000733>>62000744From 2010 - 2016 dating was very easy.2017 things were becoming obviously more difficult.2018 it was dead.That's from my experience. Covid made it even worse. I've been on 1 date in 6 years just because I find most women disgusting (and I'm a guy that occasionally gets approached by women).It also doesn't help that I live in rural Ohio. If I was in a city I'd probably be fine, but I'd be hitting on women in-person. The apps suck.
>>61996732>>61997115>>61997138>>62000775/thread
>>62000781>It also doesn't help that I live in rural Ohio. If I was in a city I'd probably be fine, but I'd be hitting on women in-personDepends on the city too. I live in Seattle and the male-female ratio is absolutely fucked thanks to big tech. Among the remaining females, a good chunk of them are dykes or some kind of queer tranny, and a lot of them are also just fat, tattooed, undesirable lumpy rockabilly hipster girls.I've found in general women on the east coast are much more receptive than west coast women, but that might just be my bias.
>>62000702>>62000711Weird how different experiences men can have. Sure i got laid like once a year back in early-mid 2010s but i got turned down a lot. It’s fucking harsh when you spend on hour on some woman at a bar and see her leave with another man, not to mention all the times you ended up drinking too much and fucked up. But since around 2019 thanks to Tinder, things turned around. Now i just boot up Tinder, have a profile where i tell of my high pay high status job and have pictures of me at fancy foreign locations and get infinite matches. Some of the women are really hot. Of course i pay for platinum but it’s still a lot less than how much drinking at bars cost.
>>62000804>Now i just boot up Tinder, have a profile where i tell of my high pay high status job and have pictures of me at fancy foreign locations and get infinite matches. Some of the women are really hot. It's not Tinder, it's your newly acquired wealth and the ability to display your lifestyle that is attracting gold diggers. I'm not knocking you for it either, I love gold diggers for a quick fling, the rules of engagement are very clear. It's like having a personal prostitute for a few months. But yeah bro most of us aren't posting curated pictures at the top of Dubai skyscrapers.
>>62000266source
>>62000836All women are gold digers. Saying all women don’t like succesful men is like saying all men don’t like attractive women.>most of us aren't posting curated pictures at the top of Dubai skyscrapers.Why? We all learned how attraction worked back in the day and how you needed to improooov yourself. Why not apply same things to the internet era?
>>62000873>All women are gold digers. Saying all women don’t like succesful men is like saying all men don’t like attractive women.To an extent, but you're retarded if you think all women value money the same way. Girls that can be swayed by beach pics of you in Turks & Cacos are obviously going to value money way more than a girl you meet backpacking in a national park.>Why? We all learned how attraction worked back in the day and how you needed to improooov yourself. Why not apply same things to the internet era?Can't be fucked, juice isn't worth the squeeze. Doesn't matter how good these gold digger bitches look, they're only going to be a source of problems and a sink on my finances, and they'll never cuddle and love on me the same way my college girlfriends would.
>>62000781Well I live in Colorado, so maybe we just have a different dating market. After covid, I feel like you could sleep with about any chick you wanted as long as you had a pulse. I noticed a shift in the years after though and it returned to normal. I agree, the apps are dogshit now. Hinge was decent right after covid though, but I think they fucked with the algorithm. Setting your customers up with successful relationships is not a viable business model. You want repeat customers who keep coming back.
>>61998972>MARRIAGE IS TO HOLD HANDS WITH SOMEONE WHEN YOU GET OLDKEK.Typical cuck fantasy. Someone tell this simp chud what its not the 1950s anymore. The woman you marry likely had her cherry popped long before she met you. You generally start hating eachother after a few years living together. You start annoying eachother. She starts nagging you, demanding more and more, the sex you have will plummet to maybe once a month after you have kids. you begin to value time alone above everything else and start longing to be single again. The most miserable people are married.
>>62001020>plummet to maybe once a month after you have kids.Hahaha, once a year for most
>>62001020Sounds like a skill issue and like you don't have any guy friends. Couples like this are typically the ones who spend 100% of their free time together because they are both fucking losers with no friends of their own and they don't do shit without their partner attached to their hip all the fucking time.
>>62001037I wouldn't care, for pleasure there is masturbation.I need a woman to have kids with, that's more or less it. Companionship as a bonus.
>>62001044who the fuck brings their cunty wife with them to hang out with the guys? Women literally destroy relationships between men, women tell their husbands who they can and cannot hangout with. Also thats how cheating starts. Most women are so whorish now that they are always looking for an emotional friend to cuck their partner with. Women belong confined to the home tending to children, not hanging out with you and the guys. Thats asking to get cheated on nowadays.
>>62001064I am literally saying the opposite of that anon, maybe you have a reading comprehension problem.
>>61997138Based
>>62000918I get matches from all kinds of women. Some of them bimbos, some of them doctors, some of them want to have a hiking friend that also doubles as a boyfriend. Some are college girls. I have way more women falling for me compared to back in the day. You sound like you are coping, no offence.
>>62001046i hope you find what you seek anon>>62001134do you only use them to pump and dump? And do you have long lasting friendships or transitory ones? I can't wrap my head around people who have a new girlfriend every three months or so, there's no room for depth
>>62001218Sometimes i stay with them longer, the longest was 1,5 years. I just unironically want to have sex and fool around with different kinds of women a bit more before i settle down. I’ve never really experienced this ”depth” you talk of. If i like hanging out with some chick, i like it.
>>62001134are you tall and good looking?
>>62001243hmm. good on you, anon. maybe your doing it right.
>>61996559>26 yo>0The only girl that has ever shown interest on me was a highschool classmate that already dating a friend of mine.During college I was an akward autist in a school of 90% men (engineering how did you guess) and right as I was starting to get better socially and making some friends, I got nuked by covid. Since then time has flown by after joining the 9to5 grind and being depressed about it for multiple years.Whelp. At least I never planned on havibg kids because the world is going to shit and they'd likely get one of the disorders that runs on my family. Still feel lonely though.
>>61997381To me ot felt pointless fron day zero. I'm legit just holding out so my parents can age and die thinking I'm doing alright. After they die I really have no clue what I'll do with my life.
>>62001300your future kids would resent you anyway. 40% of college grads are underemployed or not getting hired. Imagine how bad it will be in another 5-10 years when most white collar work is gone and blue collar work is done by tesla robots. Unless you are ultra rich having kids now is basically creating slaves
>>62001245Average height and i once posted my face on 4chan way back then as a teenager and got called a 5/10. Probably the reason why getting puss was so hard in the times before tinder being mainstream.
>>61996559I'm a millenial, recently turned 38.I have one kid, 9, last relationship ended about 7 years ago to mother of that kid.Spent years trying to convince this ex to try again, made huge sacrifices, even though they're probably not great for me. Even moved out my home city when they moved away with our daughter after our breakup.Instead they got with someone else, someone new, someone without kids, even though my daughter prefers my company.My ex used to tell me:* I wouldn't get a new job* I wouldn't be able to retire young.* I wouldn't get x, y, or z.I did all the things they said I wouldn't do.And still they chose someone else.Western society has taught women to look for romance instead of love and dedication.It also taught them to give up and look elsewhere instead of work on problems.It also made both people work when formerly, only one needed to work.I'm not bothering looking for anyone else. I was too fucked up after that relationship and having been discarded.I'm happier on my own. I wouldn't want to risk all I worked hard for to be taken from me by the courts either.I hope western society collapses and all these whores get raped by muslims.
>>62001657>avg guy is getting puss easily on tinder in 2026I find this hard to believe
>>61997174>There's a whole span of women 29-40 who thought they'd settle down in the early 2020s who got memed to death. This is also why age gap hysteria is rising rapidly, because those women think by reducing a man's options, they'll make their blow out pussy more attractive.What's funny is they delay marriage to fuck around (literally) as long as possible. They figure that with their youth gone they will now begrudgingly shift to the "stable" phase. What they don't factor in is that a mans youth is also gone at this point and if you made it that far (around 30), you're pretty much halfway through life without a partner. Now you already missed the peak of life together, have more to risk, have an easier time (financially) than you did in your 20s. What I'm getting at is, by the time a woman wants to settle down a guy has no real incentive to marry her because she was already absent for half his life, the half where the high of youthful love exists and you dream of a future together. The half where you struggle to gain a foothold in the adult world. If you haven't killed yourself by 30, you likely have the stable career so life is easier, and even if a girl meets you now her youth is gone, and unless she's a virgin you're not getting that innocent love. You're getting someone who did it all before, with a bunch of other dudes and is only with you because age caught up to her and now she's trying to settle. If this weren't the case why delay marriage for so long? What does the husband have the partners of her 20s didn't aside from increased risk and responsibility?If I made it through my 20s alone I can make it through the rest of my life, and if I do crack under the pressure I'm not getting married I'm just going to kill myself since modern marriage won't do shit to meet my emotional needs and if you think otherwise you're getting told you're problematic and need therapy by people who never went through life alone for longer than 2 weeks.
all those people in the old folks homes? the vast majority got put there by their kids
>>61996790Try dating men, it might be easier
>>62001696That's awesome, man.
>>62000997nah , yo just got old bro. you let yourself go
>>62001696bro she was outta your league.... thats why she left. she wanted something else , that simple. all the crap she says she didnt mean anywyas, nor does she care if you accomplish al your goals, she dont give a fuck.
I'm married. this makes glowniggers and jews seethe
> "But for Gen Z, those early romantic trials—and the social calluses they build—are increasingly absent." https://fortune.com/2026/03/15/gen-z-dating-workplace-culture-relationship-building-loneliness/romantic trials build social calluses. this is somehow good for the wagie 9-5 economy
>>62001020>Be me>Married to big titty blond autist that doesnt want kids>Get sex basically whenever i want>Very happyF having kids and cucking yourself to raise goy cattle for jews lmao also inb4 christfag mindraped slave saying some dumb shit about how hes too unimaginative to live life without breeding like an ape. I unironically do not get why people convince themselves making kids isnt super selfish but then again im way too high iq to align with most of you newfag (probably brown) plebs.
>>62000003Once you try hookers you'll never waste your time with normal women again.Imagine paying a fee with no bs. Easy peezy
Shouldn't this be good for employers? I feel like any time I was at work worrying about girls or romance my productivity went down like 80%
>>62000281No, it would ruin things, but it's also possible to enact gay laws and taxes that spike the price
>>61996790That's the right attitude. Focus on making money and building yourself up in your 20s. The ladies will naturally come in your 30s. Unfortunately they'll mostly be used up roasties with baggage looking to finally settle down.
>>61996559do men unironically count?
>>61997115That doesn't count though. How many of those men messaging her and buying her OF are jeets or mentally ill perma virgins? All of them. None of the men she actually wants are validating her or giving her the time of day. The dopamine hit from rejecting a thousand jeets and chuds is still the same in her brain though. My point is that there is zero reason to care about this. Go to the gym and get rich and your female problems will sort themselves out without you having to do anything
>>6199687339 khhv here.>>62000003>I'll try to score with 30 year old roasties who will be fine with the age gap.I feel like that pool is going to be small...I'm in shape and still have a full head of hair, but I am dreading getting filtered on dating apps once I turn 40. That said, I haven't signed up for a dating app yet -- after reading about it, I probably won't.Feels bad man. I wish I would have tried when I was in my 20s.
>>61996732Men on these platforms giving attention to women is the problem. Social media needs to be banned to help pop the pussy bubble
>>62002721>No, it would ruin thingsWhat's your logic?Remove the state out of the way as much as possible and you get:- A thriving prostitution market: huge supply, relatively low prices, and very easy access via new apps being made and marketed.- Healthier financial incentives: less HR do-nothing bullshit, less DEI. Femoids would largely stop getting $200k “jobs” doing nothing. All of this bullshit is another form of state interventionism.- No more divorce rape: marriage contracts would be freely defined through negotiations between the two people, which would obviously gravitate toward much more reasonable and healthier terms for the man.I could go on…>>62003582>Social media needs to be banned to help pop the pussy bubbleYou are asking the entity that causes the vast majority of these issues with its stupid rules to append another stupid rule on top to “fix” the issue...
>>62002005Boomers were ok with women working, so they shouldn't be surprised that the women of families who would have been there to take care of them (and homes in general) are working now.
>>62002719For some, who don't have big financial goals, it might be a disincentive to work hard.
>>61996732why did kikes do this ?
>>62003756For normies it needs to be legal to be socially acceptable. If we replace all porn with brothels things should improve
>>61996732Majority of women these days don't use dating apps. That's why she is getting so many messages, because men outnumber women ten to one on the apps and are desperate.
>>62001134imagine being this desperate for attention
>>61996732If you think about it though, this is "retvrn to tradition" and the natural state of things for humanity. The strongest, biggest most handsome men dominate and spread their seed, increasing the general genetic quality of humans. The rest of the men find different resourceful ways to attract a mate and pick up the scraps.
>620051640/10 bait
>>62005176See, back in the caveman days a big strong handsome chad like me would just smash your skull in and kill you and rape whatever female you had been protecting. That's kind of what we're returning to, in a way.
>>62004064Then what do women use? How do you find them?
>>62005164Thats not whats happening though. Women are whoring themselves out to multiple chads and then settling down with beta providers. Having far less children than ever before in history. The alpha males are having less kids because women don't want families. Higher value men who would in the past have many kids with an average white woman are now settling for well below their standards and having less kids. You almost have to settle below your standards as a man in order to not get a woman who is not mentally ill or who wants a family. Then you have muslim countries and africans pumping out billions of babies. So the most desirable genes are being diluted and the undesirables are breeding like rabbits. Recipe for disaster
>>6200326920 percent of white western women have an only fans account. 60 percent of white western women over the age of 25 are on some form of SSRI, birth control or other mental health drug. Another large percentage are taking weight loss drugs so that they can sustain their whoring into older age. (((society))) has been sexualized, dopamine receptors are fried, attention spans are destroyed, the youth has no concept of delayed gratification or creating anything such as a family. They want instant gratification. Instant porn, instant sex. etc. All programmed by porn, social media, pop culture, destruction of the Church, removal of God from everything, decadence and the extreme wealth/power that the upper class has amassed
>>61996790>go touch grass faggethow i always got women was generally by performing some where. Go to open mic play guitar and sing a song. Go to open mic fail at doing comedy. Omg annon your so brave, i liked that one, one song joke blah blah blah. I also always look like I have a black eye so maybe they think i got into fights all the time. Just be fucking interesting. The only time online dating worked for me was 10-15yrs ago. The online dating market is over saturated. The people outside in real world isn't. People were always surprised by my ability to get a woman. I should by all accounts not have been able to pull the holes I got. You are in luck tho, women are fucking retarded and find weird shit attractive. I also have one eye and then I let them know about it and they think its interesting. First gf thought it was hot, she was bpd insane. Im not a chad, i didnt have shit for money at the time, sometimes got so depressed and suicidal i stopped giving a fuck. Which looked like confidence to them. /rant
>>61996559BODYCOUNT BODY MOTHERFUCKING COUNT
>>62003269> without you having to do anythingCompletely false. I used to believe this and as a result I wasted my best dating years.If you’re a guy it doesn’t matter how rich or hot you are, there’s a basic level of effort society expects from you. You have to make the first move, have to be the alpha male protector, have to organize dates etc. Shy introvert guys get shafted no matter what here
>>62005204They don't use anything. Half of women don't really care that much about having a boyfriend / husband anymore. If they need sex, an attractive man in their social circle will approach them or a chad will contact them on IGThe other half just dates the first man that approaches them when they're single (so they don't remain on the single market very long). On dating apps, you see the same pool of undatable / ultra high standards / sex-hungry (probably no more than 10% of girls, sadly) rotate from one short term relationship to another
>>61996559One. Every night. Look at my adorable children.
>>62007105What do you mean half of them dont wanna date? I hear people say shit like that but based on what? I dont see a single woman in my life that fits that, family or friend.>same rotation of womenAint this the truth. Familar faces all the time. I dont think the men are great on the apps either seeing my friends hinge, so many ugly weirdos, if you are in shape and a decent job already better than most. >first manI see this from guys too, first girl who touches their peen and they say "good enough">sex hungryI'm weird, I dont want that. I want sex maybe 1-2 a week and Id be happy with that, but that might be me being weird most guys I know can jerk off daily and I get bored/not horny after 1-3 week.This all sucks too as a very attractive dude who doesn't get out and just works on projects, its hard. Im not even gassing myself up, Ive had so many people say stuff like "wait you're still single? How?" Of other validations from women, not that it matters more that I think smart, good looking members of society ought to be having kids not the losers and the poor people.
>>62007143google half of american singles don't want to date and you'll find plenty of articles. Can't link them cuz the site thinks it's spam.It may not be 50% overall, but it's close to 50% of the single market, which is what matters to you when you're single.>This all sucks too as a very attractive dude If you're really that attractive, spend a few hundred bucks on a professional photographer to take high quality pictures of you in different clothes / settings and you'll be killing it on the apps.
>>61996732Women are stupid and easy to manipulate.The hard part isn’t getting women, it’s wanting them
>>62007188>american singlesYou mean men or women? I never see dont want to just can't or arent never don't want ti.>killing on the appsI already do well on the apps but town of only 200k tinder and bumble run out fast, hinge is hit or miss. I never get likes back, but my 5-6 overweight girl friend gets 5-10 likes a day so Im sure the hotter ones Im liking are getting spammed. My sister got like 50 a day in a city of 1m. Need AI to filter out the ugly people.I dont like apps either, so superficial and a chore to do small talk. I miss college and natural environments and social circles to meet women. Really missed the boat there but thats another topic for another time.
>>61996559Gotta give it to whoever thought up this clickbait shit, it's a good one.What in the fuck does dating have to do with the workforce?>>61997174This. But also onlyfans and social media. Gen Z has a lot of women either trying to be influencers or porn stars, neither lends well to being in a relationship.>>62001961Yeah it's fucked. People talk about the risk of musical chairs until 30's, but they don't talk about the fact that you're supposed to have a life together. Not be half strangers with dozens of past relationships. It's hard enough to make new friends as you're older because people have their own whole lives in the rear-view that you were never a part of. Let alone relationships. How do you even know who to dedicate time to? 6 months of dating isn't really just six months. If you let yourself develop feelings, at least for a guy, it'll turn into being off the market for a year or more if it doesn't work out.I've had lots of past partners. Fell for the whole "your body count is your social status" thing as a guy. Grew out of it in my early 30's. But I can at least handle being alone. It's not great, but I still have purpose. So many women I know though openly talk about how they have no idea what to do with themselves. They're like 40 with no hobbies besides going to restaurants. They waste their days away in cubicles, making six figures to spend on no hobbies, no passions, and no one to take care of. They just waste away becoming more shrill and miserable, leaning into their feminist bullshit.
>>62002569The only thing those calluses did for me was make me fucking numb. So I guess that part makes sense.Still, you would think getting married would be a much bigger driver. Someone to provide for, someone to keep you in check. Single dudes are prone to alcoholism, reckless behavior, etc. Guys in stable relationships tend to live stable lives.It shouldn't be romantic "trials" that make you better at your career. Those just give you psychological issues. It should be the stability of a successful relationship that makes you better at your job. Knowing there's something to look forward to at 5pm besides eating dinner and masturbating or playing video games for an hour. That is if you're not getting blackout drunk.
>>62002719Same. Romantic problems are responsible for literally every time my life went into a reckless spiral. Even if things aren't going poorly, if I'm chasing women after work, that means I'm drinking, I'm staying up until 2am fucking, going into work late because I woke up at someone else's house, etc.Good for employers would be successful relationships, or dudes who've just checked out of dating.
>>62007143> "wait you're still single? How?"The worst is in your 30's it starts to be coded for "are you gay?", but you're not allowed to explain to an older woman at work that the women of your generation are all whores with terrible personalities.
>>62007482Date women, not hos.
>>62000657>it's practically legalHow/where do i find good quality prostitutes that aren't filthy, AIDS-ridden hoes? Especially when travelling?
>>62005574the blind leading the blind, anon do not listen to this mf. You will go and humiliate yourself, get no bitches and feel worse about yourself. DO NOT "PERFORM" a talent on a stage. I can't believe i even have to say this, surely this guy is trying bait you.
>>62007223This
>>62007589Leoslist
>>61996732I used to pump and dump chicks back when PoF was the main hub for “dating”. Lots of ghouls and a few average women would message me. Never expected to get anything above a 5/10. Most if not all would blow me in the first 15minutes of a car ride. A lot were also mentally unstable. Couldn’t imagine what it’s like now.
>>62001777Because he's lying.
>>62007482Great Im turning 30. But why can't I just say that women my age usually have terrible personalities and whores? I feel its a mixed bag but worse as alot of scraps are left compared to when younger. Longer someone is on the market they are bound to be picked up if they are good enough. I shouldve taken a plane or two of opprunities I had out of Saigon but I was young, dumb and chasing women instead of settling.>>62007498Alot of women are sloots especially if one gets older I think, a lot of good men and women get scooped up. Not all but the market narrows. Or people have more baggage and you have to navigate that BS. Not that I dont have shit Im carrying Im an example I guess.
>>61996559Females in the workplace means every encounter, even a business one, could have some kind of sexual undertone.
>>62004064Women use unofficial dating apps. Instagram is the biggest dating app in the world and is what the normies use to hook up with
>>62000629>tinderOk unc lmaoWho even uses that
>>62005164
>>62000281>The average man would be able to rent relatively cheap pussyMen don't want that They want a woman of their own
>>62007482>The worst is in your 30's it starts to be coded for "are you gay?"Yeah I'm 34 and apparently my mom's sisters have been speculating about this behind my backNo, Kathy and Elizabeth, I just don't know any women
Young men are unfortunately blinded by "improvement", thinking they're constantly climbing some peak. What no one sits them down and tells them is that your looks will drastically start declining in your late 20s, as well as your relevance. By the time you cross 30, most other 30 somethings are tied up in their families and small circles and couldn't give a fuck less about whatever you're up to or working on.The reality is a man has a small window, about 20-27, to peak in whatever he's working on, whether it be body or art or social connections or traveling success or whatever. And this is because your looks and youth, and ability to connect with other untethered youth THROUGH whatever it is you're doing, will never exist like that again. If you don't hit it at that time, you missed out on essentially your only time in life to shine.What is really the point of being alive after 30? I'm not really sure. I suppose it's making a family, and reminiscing on your 20s. But yes hobbies and all other shit besides your family and fostering your community are useless at that point
>>61996732>Wall of text about girls>A billion responses>100+ post threadEvery time. Keep it up basedlad.
>>62008646>What is really the point of being alive after 30?shitposting and being a spectator of the world, i can't think of anything else really and i'm 40, it's like my soul left my body and i can't remember when it happened
>>62008527>Men don't want that.It's a decent fallback, and many don't have anything else.You could try it>They want a woman of their own.The only thing most modern women have to offer is pre-owned pussy.Enabling pussy to be rented as cheaply as possible through deregulation would help change women's behavior for the better.
>>62008646>The reality is a man has a small window, about 20-27.Objectively false. Peak SMV for males is in the late 30s>What is really the point of being alive after 30?Maybe trying to build epic shit before you die, something potentially much bigger than yourself.A metaphorical cathedral.
>>6200947038 and feel this deeply. Retired and living in my seaside cottage alone, just browsing 4chan, playing vidya and disinterestedly watching the world crumble around me.
>>62009761>just browsing 4chan, playing vidya and disinterestedly watching the world crumble around me.Imagine what could be achieved...if being such a lil’ bitch weren’t the norm
>>62008646>>62009470Fucking brutal. Im turning 32 in about a month. I wasted my 20s on video games, porn, hookers and being a worthless neet retard. I kept waiting for my life to "start". Lol, lmao even. Most men live quiet lives of desperation. I'm starting to accept the fact that nothing will get better. Ive been hopeless and depressed for so long, even suicidal, but could never do it. Not depressed enough to kill myself I guess. There's nothing that weighs you down more than shame and regret.My mother died a year ago of cancer. Left me around 300k usd. Nothing changed. Im more depressed because now I'm completely alone. My father is a typical leftist boomer, remarried to a jew wife ex banker. My sister is a leftist whore career ball busting cunt. The memes truly write themselves. I have to make my own family but finding a suitable women that dosent have tattoos, is fat, or has a body count with dozens of hundreds of men seems impossible. It's all so tiresome./end faggy blog post
>>62009740I agree. The problem is if you wasted your 20s on vidya, porn or whatever else and never became a man of responsibility that's useful in some sense, you're fucked.
>>62009740>Objectively false. Peak SMV for males is in the late 30sThat's mostly Copium. It's only true if you become a very successful (elite even) man. Not even talking about the fact that many men go bald or start to get grey hair around 30, but Most girls in the west don't want to date men who are more than 3-4 years older than them. So in your late 30s, your dating pool is not looking good, even if you have built quite a nice life for yourself.I imagine this may be a bit different in poorer countries, and there women may be more interested in the provider value of an older man.Because of that, the best years for a normal man are 25-30. You start to have some decent money to spend, the girls who are interested in you are at their peak. After that, sure, you can still attract 30+ single women, and it may even be easier, as their options shrink. But they're less hot, less fertile and have more baggage.
>>62000185this. I just hookup a ton through Tinder and rarely meet anyone twice unless it's a FWB thing. If you didn't meet in high school then there's no point in anything serious unless maybe you're geomaxxing.
>>62010098Dating apps are great for hookups if you take care of your body and know how to play the game. If you want a genuine relationship they're poison for your soul.
>>62010105I have a great body and do know the game. Yes I don't recommend a genuine thing with any of them. Make sure to date multiple of them so you don't get ever get attached to one> If you want a genuine relationship they're poison for your soul.It's the same anywhere else though. Most chicks use dating apps after high school at some point anyway
>>62009740>Peak SMV for males is in the late 30sTestosterone peaks in mid-late 20sIf you wasted your 20s, you aren't suddenly going to be attractive to women because you have a 3x age. The only reason I'm saying this is because the MGTOW/Mansophere cucks spread this harmful idea that makes men think they can do nothing and succeed like women.
>>62008646>What is really the point of being alive after 30?It sucks if you are a chud with nothing going for you. BUT if you have accumulated assets, and set up for early retirement, can live comfortably off your investments, and have a nice paid off home in a nice area, then life is arguably the best between ages 30-45. You are old enough not to give a shit about keeping up with the crowd because you already made it. If you are sucessful you have a lot of assets and a girlfriend/wife who is 5-10 years younger than you. You skipped the humiliation rituals and jestermaxxing stage that all the simps and normie cucks endure in their 20's trying to remain relevant and cool and getting cucked by women. I would argue that having "made it" by your late 30's is a bigger flex than having a good time in your mid 20's. If you made it then you don't have to cosign a mortgage with a roastie. You don't have to rely on your wife for an income to survive. Your children will not grow up like middle class or brokies. Its all perspective. Id rather be 35 living off investments then be a 27 year old wage slave with a girlfriend struggling to get by with an average middle class lifestyle
>>62002560What league are you in?
>>62005164Wouldn't a natural state of reproduction have half of women dying in childbirth?
Personally, I can't imagine being in love. The idea of another person hugging and kissing me seems fantastical. I like the idea of it but that's all it is, an idea. Nothing tangible. It's like the idea of flying on a space ship or dying in a nuclear explosion. I don't know what happened to me as a kid.
>>62010382Lack of interaction with girls as a child, and perhaps also lack of affection from parents.
Fucking dweebs in this thread... DURRR DOYY FURKING BROOTALL, But hey I get it, not everyone's desire to get laid or have a family is the same, but this is how you deal with it? You can't even cope with reality. Lmao. Go to bed Timmy.
>>62007438>leaning into their feminist bullshit.after all, if you were a whore in 2009, clearly men are responsible for your bad life choices!
>>62010282>I would argue that having "made it" by your late 30's is a bigger flex than having a good time in your mid 20'sWith you. Had a good time in my 20's. When it's far enough in the rear-view, it feels like someone else's life. Good times as memories don't mean as much if they're not meaningful and the people you shared them with aren't still in your life.Also hit my 30's without much going for me, making early 30's a giant humiliation ritual with effectively no enjoyment. Starting to catch up and shit's improving, but basically I'm late 30's and feeling 10 years behind.
>>62010382The same goes for sleeping with women in the same bed at night. Seems like a nice fantasy, being in bed with your wife curled up on your shoulder sleeping soundly and safe...But the reality is sleeping next to other people in close proximity sucks and its worse than hell. The reality is that your wife will be hogging the bed, snoring, kicking talking in her sleep, has bad breath, waking you up just to complain about something or nag you. disturbing your sleep. You will never appreciate having your own bed after you have to sleep next to a woman for months on end. Not having to share a bed like married cucks is pure bliss
>>62003859death cultthe scorpion stings the frog and dooms them both because it's in his nature
>>62000003me ex unironically tried to compare me jerking off to porn to her cheating on me
>>62001020>you begin to value time alone above everything else and start longing to be single again. The most miserable people are married.absolute TRVTH NOVA
>>62005164>increasing the general genetic quality of humansnigger, what the hell are you talking about, they literally select for low IQ (almost retarded) inbreed looking barely human beings.
I have a son and i didn't let the hospital circumcise him. I count that as the ultimate win
>>62012554Be sure he knows how it works.I didn't realize that the foreskin should retract until I was in my early 20s and I haven't been able to fix my phimosis enough to feel like I would be comfortable having sex, but I did stretch enough to be able to clean in the shower.
>>61996559I saw two of my coworkers getting pizza late at night last Friday. I didn't think of it much in the first couple seconds but when I saw they were totally transfixed and didn't even seem to notice me looking at them I realized they were almost certainly fucking. But part of me thinks they did and pretended not to notice me because I noticed the female treating me less friendly than normal since then, and two times this week when I saw her in the hall as I had my backpack on she made a very deliberate motion to do something with her watch which makes me think she's trying to build a log on when I arrive at work. They're both major striver/social climber types too, the male is admittedly smart and swole as well, but I know they gossip and kiss ass a lot. The female seems to always jump between teams at the perfect time.
>>61998615>Getting your dick wet for 15 minutes every other day?When you hit your 30s, average is like 3 times a month
>>62002719Depends on the size of the company. For large ones they're very zero-sum with teams pitted against each other. If you're a mid-level manager and you have two prospective employees to hire, one is a quiet nerd who will do amazing technical work to spec and put in hours, another is a butterfly who gives you the scoop on what everyone else is doing and knows how to impress a high-level manager, it's the latter that will get your team's budget increased over the other team.
>>62009740>Objectively false. Peak SMV for males is in the late 30sMassive cope, there's a reason hot milfy teachers are fucking their underage students over their beer-belly declining-T husbands. Just this morning I saw another man my age (late 30s), around 300lbs, form-fitting Star Wars t-shirt, Norwood 4, hunched posture, sipping a bottled strawberry Nesquik as he walked to get the mail.t. Norwood 3 declining-T having to work out regularly just to not look like a pathetic slob
>>61996559>umm that's actually kind of weird that you want to know that, body count doesn't even matter, stop being insecure!Ez
>>61996732My gigachad brother married a woman 10y older than him and divorced a year later. I wish I was joking. It is so fucking over boyos.
>>62011216>the reality is sleeping next to other people in close proximity sucksThis + I will not exchange being able to rip nastiest farts at will for anything
>>62009470Life after 30 is a slow-motion suicide without family. It's all the negatives of getting old; watching your friends drift away as they start their own families, your parents and siblings getting old and die, watching everything in your life slowly putter out as the magic fades; without any of the positives of things like family or community to shore you up. Everything rots away and you're left with the bleakness of oblivion, no hope of anything continuing. Anyone who has experienced considerable ageing among his family members (or already in himself), knows how blackpilling it is. It's really rough, once people pass their early 50s (or sometimes even sooner) you start to notice the slip-ups, forgetfulness, the declining of fine motor skills, the difficulties understanding new information. Human existence is a tragedy, there are so few years that you are allowed with full mental and physical strength. Your peak years are mostly wasted with education, where you have barely any control over your own life, because you have little to no money nor autonomy. Add to that the time spent sleeping, working, hygiene, housework, shopping, appointments, visits to the workshop - what do we have left? Everyone who has to work for a living basically leads a precarious existence, regardless of whether they are a simple worker or a well-paid employee. Before they have built up a comfortable fortune and a well established understanding of the world, the body goes downhill.
>>62014157>as the magic fades>assuming there was any magic at all
>>62008646>What no one sits them down and tells them is that your looks will drastically start declining in your late 20sThis is only true if you don't take care of yourself at all.
>>62008073This is why we need to make it so that boys can get pregnant. We would constantly select for the highest IQ, most stoic dispositions, and most beautiful features. The age of eugenics will begin when women are obsolete.
>>62014157Dont you think that the image you posted encapsulates perfectly why its not happening for me and you. Wojak here seeks to remedy whatever heavyness he has on his heart via an outlet, as we all know nobody wants to be somebodys anything, saviour helper gf, they want it the other way around, they wanna have to pressure you for it. This good hearted shit just doesnt work out because you try to do it for yourself and for whatever reason people seem to feel it and be repelled by it. I think if family was truly the goal shit would find a way of working out
>>62014157Can confirm.33I slave away at a 100k/y job and save most of whats leftover after expenses.I havent taken a single vacation in years since whats the point if its just me.I havent enjoyed life as I have to be the one to take care of everything and nobody will pick me up when Im down and if I get sick or injured, im on my own.I wake up every morning and wonder what is this all for?Just so, one day, Ill be like this meme >>62001961 ?I have half a mind to just take all my money out and blowing it like a retard for however much time I can spending on luxury and frivolous experiences until Im at my last dollar and then killing myself
>>61996961Single women still get offers nonstop. Single men don't.
>>62015438>nobody will pick me up when Im downNobody would do that even if you are married with kids and all that. Even "friends" will think you are depressing to be around and kick you out. There's a reason so many men turn to alcohol.>what is this all forTo not work later. You wouldn't kill yourself right after working, right? Me, I'll burdenmaxx as much as I can, claim unemployment benefits, disability pension if I can. Only after all that I will flip off this world and end this.
