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crabbing chuddha edition

>Latest developments on the US strikes against Iran
https://iran.liveuamap.com/
https://x.com/sentdefender

>Some helpful links to numb the pain
https://findahelpline.com/
https://www.nvidia.com/refunds/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/refunds
https://jlingz.com/

>European indices
https://live.euronext.com/en

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners: so you feel like in the movies
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

>Boomer Investing 101: so zoomers with meme stocks can outperform you
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

>Previously on /smg/:
>>61996476
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But Chuddha...
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> futures
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kek oil naggers
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what is the next big thing?
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>>61997189
>But Chuddha...
It won't

oil is crabbing. stocks are crabbing
know what goes up? bitcoin. Why? because you stopped watching it
What is the lesson to learn here?

Mean reversion. Buy what is hated. And your portfolio will love you.
Everything in harmony. Balance. Remember: nothing ever happens
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>>61997197
Pick a random penny stock
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>>61997197
spy puts, qqq puts, vix calls, 3x oil etfs, nvidia puts
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>>61997197
biotech saas with ml
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>>61997197
Domestic semiconductor manufacturing after Taiwan being invaded causes a severe shortage
This is bad for MU and AI BTW
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>>61997197
>what is the next big thing?
looks like DRIP and SCO
But they flash crash after a price spike. DRIP does anyway. SCO seems to hold its value a little better
I would get out after a quick profit and don't look back
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Hope you sold oil marine sisters. The real pain hasn't even begun.
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>>61997191
does that hurt
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spx tanking
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How will oil baggies cope when TACO surrenders and slashes their bags in half? I will make a donation to the Victims of Oil Foundation.
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>>61997197
Railguns. The one major takeaway from this conflict thus far is that we need railguns for hypersonic and drone defense.
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>>61997191
why do they have smegma on their feet -___-'
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oil fists my baggie bastards
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>>61997217
The fact it's doing it so slowly concerns me.
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>>61997223
i bet you have dead skin all over your feet
give them a good rub and be amazed
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>>61997225
the most sinister selloffs are the ones that are slow and boring and dont even feel like selloffs at first
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>>61997217
>down not even 10 points
>tanking
NIGGA PLS
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>Indians shilling short oil on /smg/ to avoid famine
Sad , annoying and thankfully it won't work
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SARR SHORT THE OIL NOW BLOODY BASTERD BITCH BENCHOD
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>>61997234
at this time of day? in this market? it can definitely be called tanking
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>>61997197
my guess is SOXL from 10 to 70 (for the 4th time)
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>>61997244
TOO BAD IT JUST GIGABOUNCED BY 2 POINTS, ITS OVER BOBO
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>>61997207
>buying DRIP in the middle of an oilshock that has yet to start hitting it big
You should go all in on DRIP
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>>61997247
if we lose this level its lights out
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>>61997217
>-0.08%
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GIGABRAIN IDEA
IF WE CANT USE THE STRAIT WE DONT WE JUST BLOCK IT OURSELVES SO NO ONE ELSE CAN EITHER
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>>61997258
>block oil
Iran has a counter to this
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nobody would vote dem in midterms cuz they are good for fuckall, they let this entire situation happen
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>>61997249
>>buying DRIP in the middle of an oilshock that has yet to start hitting it big
>You should go all in on DRIP
we're already at the top my brotha
iran is selling oil, and is allowing other countries to pass through
china, india, and now turkey I believe
saudi is using the backdoor pipeline
so... how much of the total hormuz flow has already been restored or will come online in a week? 50%, maybe up to 60 or 70?

rat boy and orange man are both looking for off ramps, and trying to stop the economic damage from oil transport blocks
BOTH of them!
that tells me the current hysteria over oil prices is going to come down.
and then DRIP/SCO will go up 100% or more in a month. DRIP especially will go up like crazy
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SWEAT DRIP DOWN MY BALL
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>>61997265
I admire how confidently you peddle misinformation.
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>>61997265
You are either trying to troll some complete retard into losing his portfolio or you are actually serious about this delusional take on reality, you should go all in on DRIP and post proof so i can put it on my watch list and chuckle to myself
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>>61997197
Silver minors
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so you're telling me trump and his kike handlers didn't think iran would block the strait of hormuz and skyrocketing oil prices and now they have to let iran and russia sell their oil freely on the open market to keep prices down? there's no incentive for iran and russia to let this war stop, their getting rich off this.
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Welp I’m glad I cut my oil and oil accessory bags
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over the last 2 days:
S&P500: crabbing
developed ex US: crabbing
gold: crabbing

last 4 days:
oil: crabbing

CHYNA: jumped up 2 days ago on oil news, now slowly dropping down
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>>61997286
dumpey probably didnt know or understand anything and still doesnt but i guarantee the handlers and the generals did
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spx keeps tanking
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>>61997265
>50%-70% flow already
Detached from reality
Suadi and UAE pipelines can barley carry 50% of their national total output and that's when its not under drone attack .They are the only two gulf states with pipelines out of the gulf

Also Iran is only letting tankers trapped out and isn't letting anyone in to dock anywhere but Iran so that completely removes any regular shipping out from the gulf states.

Irans output itself is also under threat from Trump deciding to remove it from existence for fun
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>>61997277
>I admire how confidently you peddle misinformation.
what is misinformation?
go ahead and point it out
Iran is shipping more oil now than before the war. They aren't blockading their own oil
and they have allowed a few other countries to access oil that isn't coming from them.
>>61997278
>You are either trying to troll some complete retard into losing his portfolio or you are actually serious about this delusional take on reality, you should go all in on DRIP and post proof so i can put it on my watch list and chuckle to myself
How is this delusional?

Check the charts. Did you really think USO was going to stay at 120 forever? We are at the top for oil
Iran and america BOTH are looking for off ramps on the oil blockade. Oil is about to drop
especially once the war is over
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>>61997286
>now they have to let iran and russia sell their oil freely on the open market to keep prices down? there's no incentive for iran and russia to let this war stop, their getting rich off this.
true!
though the amount for russia is quite small
seems like iran is still selling a lot of oil
and us is choosing not to seize their oil tankers

looks like iran found the pressure point for orange man
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>>61997297
>>61997302
>what is misinformation?
>go ahead and point it out
Just did bucko >>61997302
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>>61997296
NOT EVEN DOWN 10 POINTS
IF THE MARKET OPENED TOMORROW AT THIS PRICE YOUR PUTS WOULD BE DOWN BECAUSE THATS NOT EVEN ENOUGH TO BEAT THETA NIGGA CHILL BTW IM NOT YELLING CAPS LOCK JSUT HAPPENS TO BE ON MY B
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>>61997297
>>50%-70% flow already
>Detached from reality
>Suadi and UAE pipelines can barley carry 50% of their national total output and that's when its not under drone attack .They are the only two gulf states with pipelines out of the gulf
>Also Iran is only letting tankers trapped out and isn't letting anyone in to dock anywhere but Iran so that completely removes any regular shipping out from the gulf states.
>Irans output itself is also under threat from Trump deciding to remove it from existence for fun

and how much oil is iran shipping right now?
add that to the amount saudi is shipping, already getting their east west pipeline to what, like 4 million, closer to 5? I heard the max is 7
Add up all the rest, and the release of oil from strategic reserves around the world, as well as people increasing their output (which I recall some people said is impossible lol)
And you get to 10 easily

So that's 50% of 20
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I really admire anons here
they are all clueless and special in their own way
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just vibe coded my own driver and hardware design. about to send it off to TSMC for some prototypes. it's over for tech. the future is home grown hardware.
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>east-west pipeline - 7 million a day, has not been struck (yet) and the houthis are threatening to intervene and fuck up the red sea
>UAE's pipeline - 1 million a day and goes to Fujairah, currently being hit by drones on a daily basis
>iran - 2 million a day and trump wants to take over or blow up kharg which is responsible 90% of iran's oil
losing 10 million is bad, but it can get much worse and it will take months to repair and restart production
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>>61997321
I admire anons here too. I hope Cakeanon is doing okay
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>>61997316
Those pipelines were not sitting idle before the war so your math is still off 3 million barrels so best case is 30-40% and we are not there yet
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>>61997323
Just vibe coded my own TSM with a 3d printer it’s over
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>>61994254
>>61994922
>up 350% in a year
>“uwu guyzz i don’t tink i can do dis anymoah im tiyyuhd :((“
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just vibecoded my own linux kernel with my buttplug in
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>>61997329
ultimate big brain move. about to vibe code helium production.
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https://www.reuters.com/graphics/IRAN-CRISIS/MAPS/znpnmelervl/#gulf-oil-producers-scramble-to-bypass-hormuz-as-iran-locks-down-the-strait

hmm seems like saudi is already above 5 million through the east west pipeline

>Saudi Arabia’s Red Sea pivot is now carrying meaningful volumes. According to the IEA’s March Oil Market Report, flows through the East-West pipeline have surged from an average of 1.7 million barrels per day (mb/d) in 2025 to a record daily export of 5.9 mb/d from its western port of Yanbu on March 9 — with the pipeline expected to reach its full capacity of 7 mb/d within days.
That's 5.9 from 1.5 something before the war.

>The UAE is making a similar move. The IEA reports that flows through the Habshan-Fujairah pipeline, which connects onshore fields to the port of Fujairah on the Gulf of Oman, averaged 1.8 mb/d between March 1-10 — hitting the line’s reported maximum capacity, up from around 1 mb/d before the crisis.
And UAE has increased its own pipeline from 1 million to 1.8

>While Gulf nations struggle to find alternatives to Hormuz, Iran has continued to ship oil at a rate of 1.1 million to 1.5 million barrels per day, TankerTracker.com and Kpler data show.
And iran has not stopped shipping oil
So that's already 1 million from the supposed 20 million
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>>61997331
>Violating the GPL
Wierd fetish
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>>61997331
anon vibe coding already implies anal dilation of one form or another.
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Oil bros wya

I'm thinking a tasty $100 tonight
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Just vibecoded windows12, going to sell it to microsoft [penis] for 10 Billion. The future is here.
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I'm gonna vibeee coooooode
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When will we fight over taiwan? You guys want your beauty east asian women no? Taiwan/SK/China/Japan will all be impacted.
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Im still holding soxl from last April. Wanted to sell both times it's hit 70, and I have scalped some CCs for about 100% of my original basis total. I seem to care more about denying the irs stcg rates than I do about maximizing $ in my pocket.
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>>61997325
>>east-west pipeline - 7 million a day, has not been struck (yet) and the houthis are threatening to intervene and fuck up the red sea
>>UAE's pipeline - 1 million a day and goes to Fujairah, currently being hit by drones on a daily basis
>>iran - 2 million a day and trump wants to take over or blow up kharg which is responsible 90% of iran's oil
>losing 10 million is bad, but it can get much worse and it will take months to repair and restart production
that's right, but we already see that in the price
price jumped from 70 dollars a barrel to 95
and that will reduce demand

it's not like we will "run out" of oil. 10-15% of the supply has been cutoff, when you account for all the alternates and backups which reduce the 20 million meme number to more like 10 million

Can the world survive a 15% reduction in oil supply? yeah. Prices will go up. They already have. people will use oil less. That's simply how supply and demand work
And the best cure for high prices is high prices, which iran and america are both frantically trying to do right now as they look for off ramps on the issue
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I am vibe coding at work unironically (but I am out of claude tokens)
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>>61997351
Buddy
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>>61997338
5+1+1.5=7.5 or 37% with SA carrying hard
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>>61997352
You faggots think $100 oil is expensive and your bloated 1,000,000x PE AI stocks are going to double. Kek
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mom, I just 3D printed a semi fab
trillions will be wiped from the market!
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>>61997359
Day it hits ltcg I'm selling. Long couple weeks here.
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HGRAF has corrected exactly to the .618 fib. I'm buying. Shorters will mop my floor.
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>>61997367
theres plenty of oil and there will only be more oil by the day, not less
the supply disruption has happened. it cant get any worse, only better
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>>61997352
Having the world use 15% less oil isn't as easy and cheap as you think
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>>61997373
nigga is really coping on the other side of a short squeeze with fibbanonsense bullshit on some otc garbage lmfao
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>>61997378
Why didn't Greta simply close the Strait of Hormuz to save the planet?
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>>61997351
same i always go for 3+ year holds for tax reasons among others. im a millionaire and actually make money in the stock market though.
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>>61997373
hgraf can go as low as 3-4 usd region lol
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>>61997383
It's the shorts that will get squeezed, mark my words.
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sapport turned into resistance
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>>61997375
>it can’t get any worse
>reserves are draining, petrochemical factories are halting, oil depots are getting bombed, oil production is halting
>shit takes weeks to bring back online where there will need to be overproduction to return to previous levels.
Ok
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>>61997388
you are huffing copium, exit that stock immediately before you lose more money
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>>61997387
Not with the news that is imminent.
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>>61997373
Don't lose too much money anon, i' think we're going down a bit further
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>>61997392
in other words, all known things that can only improve
thanks for proving my point
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>Greta hasnt been seen since the war began
She's the real power in the IRGC
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>>61997396
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>>61997363
>5+1+1.5=7.5 or 37% with SA carrying hard
and count in the release of strategic reserves
which looks like 1.2 million to 3.3 million
as well as others boosting production, which I was told here was "not how it works"
as if higher prices might not encourage suppliers to find a way to... increase supply
and that looks like 0.7 million

It's almost as if capitalism works, and higher prices encourage more supply. and that people react to oil shocks... or something
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>>61997398
Your mistake is thinking the market has priced in all the negative ramifications of this situation. They could very well be underestimating it.
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>>61997378
>Having the world use 15% less oil isn't as easy and cheap as you think
I didn't say it was easy or cheap
just that we won't "run out of oil"
right now is the current top in oil price. it might crab along, or jump up a little higher on specific days, but the overall trend is down, and right now is the top
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>saaar the short on a company that makes no money will be squeezed do the needful and buy now saar
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>>61997410
theres a new downward pressure on markets now for sure, but it will only last for so long basically, theres no need for panic or gigadumping, but the market is going to be super heavy every day this oil disruption goes on
however as of now clearly the market believes it will end probably within a month and so we arent seeing dramatic repricing yet
iran gets weaker by the day, they havent done shit lately, their threat only dwindles with time as well
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>>61997419
They just fired a bunch of missiles at the UAE, Dubai and Israel.
I'm enjoying watching huge amounts of patriots getting fired off.
RTX earnings are going to be stellar.
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>>61997425
oh no more of the same happening, the horror, market go brrrrr
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>>61997407
That's still 5 million short even with with reserves and using the reserves creates more oil demand down the road since they will have to be refilled before the next crisis (US was already 50% empty from the last one).

BTW if you want an example of how hard it is to just suddenly start exporting more oil look into Canada over the last year.
We've been pouring money into it since the last election with little outcome short term since infrastructure takes forever to being online.
People around the world will be delaying maintenance right now trying to meet demand and that itself will cause more problems if this doesn't wrap up quick .
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>>61997385
I'm just in the ugly bracket for stcg and it enrages me. Plus NIIT. Not a millionaire but decent income the last 4 years.
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>>61997410
These retarded niggers think the strait will all of a sudden open up for in 2 more weeks, they have no idea how bad this about to get and god help us if trump actually does strike kharg island

>>61997414
>>61997419
These stupid niggers have no idea what "pool's closed" means
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>>61997429
I'm just enjoying the show. Defence stocks will have rammed order books for years to replace this lot.
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>>61997396
i doubted this nigga and now he tha underdog again nigga fr
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>>61997414
Implying $95 oil is what it will stay at is saying it will be cheap . it won't be cheap
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>>61997433
>These stupid niggers have no idea what "pool's closed" means
the pool is closed
except for iran's oil exports
and india, and china, and turkey
so it's closed, except for the exceptions where it's not closed
and saudi and UAE are just going around the pool which is closed
so it's closed, but kinda not.
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I'm starting to think TA is like Alan Lichtman's keys- it's right, but your bias can misinterpret the data
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is oil the new silver?
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the pool is closed, the poop is pee, peepee poopoo
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>>61997469
>The pool is gated and closed to everyone but Iran
Are you happy now?
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>>61997449
>Implying $95 oil is what it will stay at is saying it will be cheap . it won't be cheap
when did I ever say cheap?
I just said this the top. At least for USO which is oil futures
uso is at 120 right now. crabbing at 118.
That is the top
there is no way that continues.

The actual current price of oil being sold, which is 95 right now will probably stay at that level, and slowly calm down to 90, then 85 or maybe even 80

but it won't get back down to 75 or 70
orange man really fucked up when he didn't buy oil for the strategic reserve at those prices. Not smart!
we won't get back down to 70 for a while
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guy saying spx was dumping got real quiet all of a sudden
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>>61997478
>>The pool is gated and closed to everyone but Iran
>Are you happy now?
except for india, china, and turkey
and probably more next week
So yes, the pool is closed
HORMUZ CLOSED!!!! according to iran
except for all the exceptions where it is not closed
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pools still closed...200 oil ?
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>>61997479
How long do you think the war is going to last with an opinion like this
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>>61997487
WHAT WHAT WHAT
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>>61997483
>turkey
Are you high ?

>China and India
Ya ships picking up Iranian oil with Iran's blessing.
Pool is closed for all exports but iranian and that's under risk of american intervention but i doubt it because midterms
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sandisk actually going to hit 1000 by EOY
lol
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>>61997495
is btc really going to hit 1m loool
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>>61997493
oil oil oil
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Wake me up when it breaks 92 or 100
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>>61997479
I disagree and think the market is over rating the possibility of the strait re opening and giving supply relief and that's keeping it from 110-120 crab .
I also think the war will last longer then the market has priced so above $100 until AUG.

I don't think I will change your mind but either way long OIL producers
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>>61997499
how
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>>61997479
So buy petrobras, got it
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OIL SMIGGAS

ITS HAPPENING
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Oil bucks are getting too uppity...
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seems like the pool is closed, except for all the exceptions, which are an ever expanding list of exceptions, increasing week by week

>>61997491
>How long do you think the war is going to last with an opinion like this
who knows?
All I know is 120 is the top for USO

>>61997494
>>turkey
>Are you high ?
Keep up to date brotha

Yes, Iran has reportedly allowed Turkey to transit the Strait of Hormuz on a limited, case-by-case basis. On March 13, 2026, the Turkish Transport and Infrastructure Minister confirmed that permission was obtained from Tehran for at least one Turkish-owned ship to pass through the strait.

>Pool is closed for all exports but iranian
Non-Iranian Oil Transit
Iran has also begun allowing a very small number of vessels carrying non-Iranian oil to pass, provided they are from countries Tehran deems "friendly" or "neutral".
Pakistan: The Pakistani-flagged tanker Karachi (also known as the Lorax) recently became the first confirmed vessel to carry non-Iranian crude through the strait since the conflict began. The oil on board was reportedly from the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and destined for Pakistan.
India: Iran has granted "rare exceptions" for Indian-flagged tankers, including two liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) carriers (Shivalik and Nanda Devi). Additionally, a Saudi oil tanker carrying 1 million barrels of crude for India was reportedly allowed to pass.
China: Chinese-linked tankers have maintained a "steady trickle" of movements, as China is Iran's largest oil customer and has been vocal about protecting shipping routes.
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>>61997508
Just more crab with 98 Max
It won't break out till the weekend
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>>61997513
so 3x uso Friday?
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>>61997355
>he doesn't know about the free api hack
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an unknown entity is artificially suppressing the price of hard working latin oil
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>WW3 in the horizon
>stack up on bottled water and canned soup
>sell for 50 times the usual price
yeah I think I know my next trade
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>>61997502
>I disagree and think the market is over rating the possibility of the strait re opening and giving supply relief and that's keeping it from 110-120 crab .
>I also think the war will last longer then the market has priced so above $100 until AUG.
>I don't think I will change your mind but either way long OIL producers
considering both iran and orange man are looking for an off ramp, and 120 was the peak fear level, any new news will likely see the price go down
Can it really last at 120, when that was the height of the uncertainty and the level we hit at the very beginning? probably not

for it to go up higher than 120, there needs to be a lot of really bad news.
but since iran and orange man both want the off ramp, I doubt it
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>>61997518
Neat
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chances of MU peaking at $500 tomorrow?
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>>61997512
Those none Iranian loads are tankers loaded pre war who are stuck in the gulf .
Even if they let out every single one that's only a few days worth of oil.
They are not letting in any new tankers westward to load from the gulf states .
Especially not since they are currently droning the gulf states oil infrastructure
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>>61997528
>those none Iranian
* Those Iranian
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>>61997527
100%. These niggers spent the last month dumping MU for dumb market reasons. We are rippan
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>>61997512
>who knows?
Are you under the impression that the timeline, whether it's 2 weeks or 2 months doesn't matter?
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>>61997491
I'd say two more weeks
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>>61997522
Iran has ignored US offers to talk about peace
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>>61997522
Isreal literally killed all the people the orangeman needs to offramp in a way that made them very hard to ever negotiate with in the future
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I'm going long a north sea oil player tomorrow. There's no way the labour government doesn't lower the crippling taxes on them and issue drilling licences in the coming weeks/months.
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>>61997536
>>who knows?
>Are you under the impression that the timeline, whether it's 2 weeks or 2 months doesn't matter?
seems like you're really excited about the timing on this
It really has nothing to do with my point
The USO 120 price point is the top. How long will it take to go down? Really not important to that analysis. I am simply looking at the price, calling a top, and then waiting.
it could take a week, a month, or two months. It really doesn't matter. It will go down from there, thus it is a top.

The best cure for high prices is high prices. Turns out supply and demand still function, and capitalism still works. Weird!

there are some people who think oil will go up to 250 a barrel, and stay there. I am not one of those people
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>>61997551
Retard, Labour is ideologically captured by Marxist Milliband. Not happening.
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>>61997553
I think you don't fully grasp the reality or scale of the problem
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>>61997542
>Iran has ignored US offers to talk about peace
Iran said they closed the strait of hormuz
but now it's open. Still closed, but definitely not open. Close but open. And we will still sell to china, but hormuz is closed.
And india too. and maybe also pakistan. And turkey.

Yeah that's an off ramp my dude
>>61997548
>Isreal literally killed all the people the orangeman needs to offramp in a way that made them very hard to ever negotiate with in the future
See above
Iran is backpedaling hard on "the straits of hormuz are closed!!!!!!!"
We are quite far away from that initial hardline stance.
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>>61997536
Isn't US self sufficient in gas? And why use Brent instead WTI?
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kiss me, babe
i'm irish
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>>61997559
How many ships do you think have passed since the straits closed if I tell you the pre-war number of daily crossings is about 138?
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can the middle east just fuck off?
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>>61997564
Brent is the global benchmark

The spread between WTI and Brent represents the cost of picking up WTI and delivering it to the North Sea
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>>61997558
>I think you don't fully grasp the reality or scale of the problem
What are you trying to say here then? That oil prices will go higher, and stay higher?

If "the economy" takes an oopsie, then what happens to the price of oil?
This is caused demand destruction, which is just a fancy way of saying demand goes down.
What happens when demand goes down? Prices go down.
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>>61997559
Lol you are a complete retard dude, please go all in on DRIP and post proof so I can laugh at you when you get your asshole blown out
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>>61997564
the US does this weird thing where it is technically self sufficient but will export 1.1x and import 1.0x. So technically it could produce all of its own gas, oil, food and then some, but actually ends up almost 100% dependent on imports since it exports all of its resources to only import the same resources.
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How do I invest in wheat?
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So how long is this nigger crab market going to continue for? I'm sick of these +/-.01% days ago even a dump is preferable to this.
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>>61997582
NTR supplies the fertilizer that grows the wheat
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>>61997583
crab is strength
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>>61997559
You are way overestimating how much traffic Iran is allowing but feel free to short oil if you know better
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>>61997575
A 2 month closure of the straits is basically an economic nuclear weapon which will cause a global recession. That was known before the war and now that we're in it.

It's only now that we're in it that people refuse to accept it.
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>>61997568
>How many ships do you think have passed since the straits closed if I tell you the pre-war number of daily crossings is about 138?
Who knows? And who cares? Go ask AI if you want an answer to that
The point I am making is that iran is looking for an off ramp
As is america
You can look at current numbers, of tracked ships who are now strangely and surprisingly turning off their radar trackers, or... you can examine the politics of iran and america, and see that both countries are clearly looking for an off ramp.

So 120 USO being the peak of fear and uncertainty must come down from here, now that both sides are looking for an off ramp
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>>61997590
There is no evidence that Iran is looking for an off ramp, they have explicitly denied any diplomatic communication with the US and said they want to cause enough damage to establish strategic deterrence.
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>>61997576
Oh okay, so you have no response and you know you are wrong.
Got it!

I'll just repost what triggered you, since it was clearly a good point:
>Iran said they closed the strait of hormuz
>but now it's open. Still closed, but definitely not open. Close but open. And we will still sell to china, but hormuz is closed.
>And india too. and maybe also pakistan. And turkey.
>Yeah that's an off ramp my dude

>Iran is backpedaling hard on "the straits of hormuz are closed!!!!!!!"
>We are quite far away from that initial hardline stance.
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>>61997559
US/Isreal already killed all the Iranian moderates that wanted to work something out. And guess what the moderates look like idiots when they get bombed out of nowhere. Iranian government is all hardliners now, they will never trust US negotiations ever again.
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>>61997589
The shortage is in the pipeline of the supply chain, so its delayed in practical effect. It takes time for it to show up. But it will. And the longer the closure lasts, the longer the effects will last when they start showing up. It's a time bomb.
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>>61997555
Checked
Milliband can seethe all he likes. In an oil shock you drill. End of.
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>>61997180
Wtf is this bullshit
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>>61997589
>A 2 month closure of the straits is basically an economic nuclear weapon which will cause a global recession. That was known before the war and now that we're in it.
>It's only now that we're in it that people refuse to accept it.
A global recession will cause oil prices to plummet, due to demand destruction
Okay, yes you are smoking crack and it's exactly as bad as I thought

>>61997593
>There is no evidence that Iran is looking for an off ramp
Except for iran saying that hormuz is no longer closed for their own oil exports, and also other countries can use hormuz, like india, pakistan, china, and turkey?
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>>61997594
just stop lil bro
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>>61997590
>Iran refuses all negotiations with USA/Isreal
>gives the USA a list of concessions they want that would completly destroy and embarass the USA as a requirement to a ceasefire and to open up the strait
>"look guys Iran wants an offramp!"
You are a complete retard dude
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>>61997590
>The point I am making is that iran is looking for an off ramp
>As is america
No they aren't.
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>>61997601
>He thinks the ZOG Milliband is going to drill
>He thinks the government isn't trying to destroy the UK and harm its tax slaves
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>>61997607
You don't hold it long. You get in, wait for the spike, and then get out. After that, you go to silver. It will spike, so you have to get out fast. Then you go to gold and hold.
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>>61997439
>>61997425
why isn't it already rising though? shouldn't it be being priced in? unless it already has been...
niggers...
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>>61997607
You think $80/barrel is enough to cause demand destruction?

To cause demand destruction we need to get close to $200/barrel first
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>>61997286
Both Grok and Claude said it would be okay
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>>61997613
I'm investing. You should go back to /pol/.
Schizo.
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Inshallah gold will go below 5000
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>>61997611
>Iran refuses all negotiations with USA/Isreal
when did I ever say that iran or america will stop attacking each other? Or seek a peace deal, or a cease fire or whatever like that?

I just said that both america and iran are CLEARLY looking for an off ramp on the oil issue

I'll repost this one again:
>Iran said they closed the strait of hormuz
>but now it's open. Still closed, but definitely not open. Close but open. And we will still sell to china, but hormuz is closed.
>And india too. and maybe also pakistan. And turkey.
>Yeah that's an off ramp my dude
>Iran is backpedaling hard on "the straits of hormuz are closed!!!!!!!"
>We are quite far away from that initial hardline stance.
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>>61997618
Investors haven't really reacted yet. They are late to the game, just like they were on covid. I sold everything as soon as the first case of covid showed up in Washington State. It was still several weeks before the market collapsed. Then I went in and bought all kinds of stuff, airlines, clothes, restaurants, waited for them to go up and sold.

Anyway, investors were late. They're late here too.

The play is oil, silver, gold. They will spike in that order. Gold will hold the value. Oil and silver will fall back down.
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how does israeli and magatards cope with them having to let Iran and russia sell their oil freely on the open market to keep prices down?
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>>61997627
Traffic is still <95% pre war average with every single exception you can think of
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>>61997622
Can't wait. Let's hope jpow goes out there, slamming his fist into the table hiking with 100p to save the world.
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>>61997629
Russia should be able to push west faster now. I wonder if Trump will do anything as they approach Kiev.
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>>61997619
>You think $80/barrel is enough to cause demand destruction?
>To cause demand destruction we need to get close to $200/barrel first
The current price is 95
>To cause demand destruction we need to get close to $200/barrel first
As far as demand destruction goes, fuel prices for normal people, as well as airlines have already gone up

As price goes up, demand goes down.
You don't need to go from 55-60 to 200 which is more than triple the price to see demand go down
I don't even like the "demand destruction" meme because it's melodramatic. I'm just saying demand goes down as price goes up

This is very simple.
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>>61997634
They planned a released of 400 million barrels from reserve.
The normal export from the Hormuz Strait is 20 million barrels a day.
Thus the reserves cover 20 days of closure.
Today was day 18.
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>>61997621
AT is a great offshore drilling stock, check how well its been doing recently (not very) despite great fundamentals and solid growth.

It will not get better under a labour government, no matter how bad this situation gets they will not renege on their renewables zealotry.
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thank god my stock broker doesnt let me buy hgraf lol
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>>61997606
MUbros we're going to wring out optiontards before rocketing past
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>>61997607
And yet we have Don and """"""""""conservatives"""""""""" ignoring basic economics.

If the price of oil was allowed to naturally appreciate, ships might actually risk the Kessel run. But instead we'll have an artificially low price an not enough oil to go around.
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>>61997634
>Traffic is still <95% pre war average with every single exception you can think of
Okay?
And what about next week, and the week after that?
My point that iran and america are looking for an off ramp points the future.
Right now, and last week or even two weeks ago now since that's when the iran war started, was peak fear
The politics of both iran and america clearly point to them seeking off ramps.

Markets are forward looking. They see that, and the price goes down. By the same you have waited for traffic to get back to 10%, 20%, 30% of pre war levels, the futures contracts have already come down. That's USO

They already ARE down compared to 120, when you look out to 6 months or 12 months from now.
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>>61997638
Industrial demand destruction is different from consumer demand destruction

Consumer demand destruction means people work from home and don't travel as much. Industrial demand destruction means power plants and factories have to declare force majure and it causes cascading supply chain disruptions
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>>61997627
2 ships passed throught the strait yesterday you complete retard

Post a position in DRIP or fuck off
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>>61997648
I see you have ignored my point once again
I'll just repost it again, and wait to see if you have any response:
>A global recession will cause oil prices to plummet, due to demand destruction

>>There is no evidence that Iran is looking for an off ramp
>Except for iran saying that hormuz is no longer closed for their own oil exports, and also other countries can use hormuz, like india, pakistan, china, and turkey?
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>>61997628
I'm really hoping for a gold play in the next 1-2 months.

If the war ends and oil goes to 75$, but private credit causes a shit storm gold could drop really hard and then bounce back.
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>>61997637
Russia are going backwards at the moment.
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>>61997647
I'm ready for 700
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>>61997653
>Industrial demand destruction is different from consumer demand destruction
man, people are really stuck on the "demand destruction" meme huh?
I think that phrasing is melodramatic and implies the demand is going away and not coming back?
I'm just saying prices go up and demand goes down.
That means we won't "run out" of oil. The price goes up as the supply goes down, and as the price goes up people will use it less. That means demand goes down

>>61997656
ah okay, so you're wrong and you know it.
I'll just repost the thing you have no response to, since it was clearly a good point:
>Iran said they closed the strait of hormuz
>but now it's open. Still closed, but definitely not open. Close but open. And we will still sell to china, but hormuz is closed.
>And india too. and maybe also pakistan. And turkey.
>Yeah that's an off ramp my dude
>Iran is backpedaling hard on "the straits of hormuz are closed!!!!!!!"
>We are quite far away from that initial hardline stance.
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>>61997651
>My point that iran and america are looking for an off ramp points the future.
You keep asserting something that isn't true.

It's not in Iran's strategic interest to sue for peace while they are a few weeks away from nuking the global economy and credibly blaming it on America and Israel and establishing long-term strategic deterrence.

It's not in the IRGC's interest to sue for peace while they've already taken a ton of damage and then wait 1 year for America to come back and strike them again.
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>letting a select 4-5 ships through a day is an offramp and not just flexing control
delusional
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>>61997659
>Iran ships oil to allies, mostly china
>ie. NOT EUROPE OR THE REST OF ASIA
>you think this is somehow an offramp because you have 60 IQ and should not have been given a brokerage account
>people need oil desperately to cobtinue to be relevant
>you think this is actually bearish on Oil

YOU ARE A COMPLETE FUCKING RETARD PLEASE POST YOUR POSITION IN DRIP SO I CAN LAUGH AT YOU
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>>61997667
>That means we won't "run out" of oil. The price goes up as the supply goes down, and as the price goes up people will use it less. That means demand goes down
The demand shift required to accommodate 10% of the world's oil supply and 20% of the world's LNG supply, 1/3rd of the world's fertilizer supply, most of the world's sulphur supply, and 1/3rd of the world's helium supply being offline simultaneously is catastrophically enormous.
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>futures
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>>61997667
>I think that phrasing is melodramatic and implies the demand is going away and not coming back?
You are just fucking retarded bro, South Korea is having virgin plastic shortages due to the oil crisis. Dozens of factories have already shut down their factories because they don’t have the base materials they need to manufacture their product. It’s downstream retard.
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oil sisters is it over? I boughted when it was over $100...
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>futures
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>>61997681
What contracts or funds did you buy?
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I am wondering, since this is a breakout, if Micron will run much higher from here again.
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>>61997520
Based, Scott Bussey saving my trades
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>>61997638
I thought demand for oil is very inelastic, people aren't suddenly going to decide to stop buying gas to go to work they're just going to stop buying other shit
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>>61997675
Kek
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MUbabes we're wagmi
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>>61997681
Probably time to go short
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>>61997685
also the reason it says I pussy is because I was going to put another 10k-39k in but I got scared :(
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excuse me saars, what are these nigger candles doing on my futures?
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kek oil baggies
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I will once again remind you to purchase fertilizers. CF, MOS, NTR, etc.
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MU baggots, you've just topped HARD
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>>61997675
>YOU ARE A COMPLETE FUCKING RETARD PLEASE POST YOUR POSITION IN DRIP SO I CAN LAUGH AT YOU
seems like I'm still triggering you, so I'll just repost the same thing again

>A global recession will cause oil prices to plummet, due to demand destruction
>>There is no evidence that Iran is looking for an off ramp
>Except for iran saying that hormuz is no longer closed for their own oil exports, and also other countries can use hormuz, like india, pakistan, china, and turkey?

>>you think this is somehow an offramp
Yes, it's an offramp from "hormuz is closed!!!!"
here, seems like you need this one. I wonder if you'll have a response to this one either
>Iran said they closed the strait of hormuz
>but now it's open. Still closed, but definitely not open. Close but open. And we will still sell to china, but hormuz is closed.
>And india too. and maybe also pakistan. And turkey.
>Yeah that's an off ramp my dude
>Iran is backpedaling hard on "the straits of hormuz are closed!!!!!!!"
>We are quite far away from that initial hardline stance.
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If I notice that a company named Veeco is doing a lot more business with my company, is it illegal to let others know? I'm sure they wouldn't like me talking about it. I'm going to buy some if the hit $30.
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things are getting spicy
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>>61997713
Letting 4-5 ships past isn't the offramp you think it is anon but if you disagree you should bet accordingly
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>>61997713
Are you aware that the majority of traffic since the shutdown has been Iranian oil tankers and the others were either attacked or the Iranians let them leave the gulf in exchange for diplomatic concessions from the ship's country of origin?
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>>61997690
>I thought demand for oil is very inelastic, people aren't suddenly going to decide to stop buying gas to go to work they're just going to stop buying other shit
when they stop buying "the other things", then "the economy" will shrink. And oil is used for all those other things too
When "the economy" takes an oopsie, demand goes down, price of oil goes down

>>61997680
>You are just fucking retarded bro, South Korea is having virgin plastic shortages due to the oil crisis. Dozens of factories have already shut down their factories because they don’t have the base materials they need to manufacture their product. It’s downstream retard.
okay?
Then that only helps my case
I'm just saying demand goes down. but if you really think it's demand destruction and we hit global recession or depression, then oil prices will go down by quite a bit
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>>61997725
>the majority of traffic since the shutdown has been Iranian oil tankers and the others were either attacked or the Iranians let them leave the gulf in exchange for diplomatic concessions from the ship's country of origin?
correct!
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>>61997681
maybe learn your lesson? if something has gained nearly 100% in a short amount of time before you consider buying it, you are too late. Stop listening to retards telling you its going to hit x overinflated price, they are wrong 100% of the time.

First silver, then MU now oil. how many times will it take for the lesson to sink in?
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Scott Bessent said 2026 will be a banquet for americans
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>>61997728
So where is the offramp?

If anything, by escorting through an alternate route that goes through their territorial waters they are implying the international commercial shipping route is mined.
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>>61997729
Those MU faggots are going to get dumped on lol.
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>>61997659
>trades stocks
>risks 10s of thousands
>hasn’t read smith
>probably talked himself out of a meal he actually wanted to save money at some point this week and didn’t enjoy it

Embarrassing desu ne
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My only regret is not using more leverage to long oil related derivatives and extra-terrestial identities.
Shill me a video game other than civ
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>>61997733
Earnings will be great so they still have at least a few more weeks of fun
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Don't check the oil charts tomorrow... it'll be a bloodbath.
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>>61997736
>Shill me a video game other than civ
I enjoyed Sins of a Solar Empire

Its an RTS on a galactic scale but slow enough to feel semi-turn-based. They ship battles are pretty cool and building up planets and trade routes and orbital economies is fun.
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>>61997737
>He thinks outstanding earnings guarantee a pump in this market

Look at NVDA after they BTFO earnings recently. Dipped.
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shaddup everbody
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>>Iran ships oil to allies, mostly china
>>ie. NOT EUROPE OR THE REST OF ASIA
>>you think this is somehow an offramp because you have 60 IQ and should not have been given a brokerage account
>>people need oil desperately to cobtinue to be relevant
>>you think this is actually bearish on Oil

>YOU ARE A COMPLETE FUCKING RETARD PLEASE POST YOUR POSITION IN DRIP SO I CAN LAUGH AT YOU
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>>61997737
MU has a higher P/E than NVDA…
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>Raj is posting selfies again
Good night
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>If the price of oil was allowed to naturally appreciate, ships might actually risk the Kessel run. But instead we'll have an artificially low price an not enough oil to go around.
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I am scared
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>>61997752
A truly horrible thread.
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>>Raj is posting selfies again
>Good night
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>Lol you are a complete retard dude, please go all in on DRIP and post proof so I can laugh at you when you get your asshole blown out
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>Don't check the oil charts tomorrow... it'll be a bloodbath.
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>>61997756
We should cuddle for safety
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BLOODY BASTARD BENCHODE DO NOT INSULT THE OILS SAR
OILS BEST INWESTMENT
I ONLY INWEST WITH MAXIMUM EMOTIONS SARRRR
OIL TO TEN TOUSAND LAKHS
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holy shit man



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