Welcome to /XMR/ Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's most widely adopted privacy coin.OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://getmonero.orgINFODUMPS:https://rentry.org/monero-explainedhttps://moneroinfodump.neocities.orghttps://pastebin.com/raw/wtx1vKueXMR Redpill: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4BUY XMR: https://monero.eco/exchanges/>Infinity Projecthttps://pastebin.com/raw/pbCycXsCCrypto ATMs: https://coinatmradar.com/XMR Resources: https://monero.observer/resources/XMR Stats: https://moneroj.netMINING: https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/https://rentry.org/why_mine_xmrWALLETS:>DesktopOfficial GUI/CLI walletFeatherwalletStack Wallet>MobileCake WalletMonero.com walletStack WalletUnstoppableEdge walletMonerujo (Android only)Monfluo (Android only)SECURE STORAGE: https://rentry.org/store_xmr_securelyBuy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!:https://monerica.com/https://xmrbazaar.com/https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/https://kycnot.me/?t=service&xmr=onhttps://peershop.apphttps://cakepay.com/https://coincards.com/>Exotic goodshttps://pastebin.com/raw/fF95wTNiSupport development:https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/https://monerofund.org/https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/Support organic art:https://www.monerochan.art/If you still have questions, feel free to ask. A MoneroChad will be with you shortly.Previous thread: >>61881576
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$350 stablecoin
>>62000163Single post OP it's a miracle. Good job.
>>62002323It's really sad imo. We look just as generic as the rest of the cryptos here
>>62002412Tranny mindset. Monero is the best, it doesn't need to be "different".
>>62002497>If you don't want to be like the gazillion scam coins that get shilled here you're a tranny
>>62000163Reminder that XMR is broken and you should absolutely be out of this shit by now.>Investigations show that he first received Bitcoin, then cleverly moved it through an exchange that bypassed Know Your Customer (KYC) standards. He converted the Bitcoin into Monero, a notoriously private cryptocurrency, and then funneled it into a designated wallet.The NBI, keeping their investigative cards close to their chest, have not divulged further particulars about their on-chain inspection. However, it is known that the laundered funds made their return to Binance only to transmute back to Bitcoin and scatter across assorted wallets.>https://spectrum-search.com/insights/finnish-nbi-cracks-monero-code-in-vastaamo-hack-case
>>62002557>We totally got this figured out this time>No we can't tell you how
>>62002533>If you don't self mutilate you're just like everyone else
>>62002580>In 2024, the hacker who accessed the electronic health record database of the Vastaamo private psychotherapy provider was sentenced to jail for 6 years and 3 months for 30,000 crimes (one for each victim), including charges of aggravated data breach, attempted aggravated blackmail, and aggravated dissemination of information infringing private life.Whatever. It earned him 6 and change. It def warrants a UAYOR disclaimer.
>>62002610>Trannies are totally not popular right now bro>>62002626I'd guess since they apparently only attacked him and the vast majority of DNMs still work (and obviously use XMR) he made another opsec mistake and was easily tracked without on-chain data.
>>62002497where is the hetero flag?
>>62002631Sure, the prosecution wouldn't have been all over spelling out simple opsec leaks to solidify the case to the 90-IQ plebs. This can't realistically be spun in XMRs favor anon.
>>62002715https://youtu.be/liRvscK5vPc?si=DYDThXKif37EFz_w&t=3981>Where is the 'H'?
>>62002557>>62002557>However, it is known that the laundered funds made their return to Binance only to transmute back to Bitcoin and scatter across assorted wallets.This is called an EAE attack>>62002626>Whatever. It earned him 6 and change. It def warrants a UAYOR disclaimer.More like "Monero can't help you if you use it wrong!"
>>62000163Thanks for the shorter OP.
>>62002752great minds think alike
sound money safe mode
New banger dropped>XMR provideshttps://vocaroo.com/14PsYvUc3jH5
>>62006880Based
>>62006880>https://vocaroo.com/14PsYvUc3jH5actually pretty good
>>62000193monero chan!>>62006880i lol at the 'glowies cant see' part
What does Monerochan smell like bros?
>>62009605laundry
>>62005480In the end what is needed is not a decentralized digital currency that is "untraceable" by the feds. But a decentralized digital currency which doesn't give out your whole balance, as well as you whole transaction history, to the payee.
>>62013566I think there's a great irony in drawing Monerochan in revealing poses or clothing, however, the quality of privacy is that she can decide what she is willing to share and with who
>>62013663yes she's giving away her view keys but that's her choice
>>62014252>>62013663
>>62014252Wait does that mean that now we'll see every woman completely naked? She compromised all clothes by giving away her view keys!!!
>>62006880now that's what I call music.
>>62014252
I had a dream I met two extremely rich Silicon Valley tech bros who decided to go all in on Monero. They called fiat currency "meat money" and BTC "for robot" then said XMR was the only actual money for real humans. They said they had a one hot wallet that needs 5 signatures to move to cold storage. Then we discussed how to create Monero credit cards with cash back but concluded it wasn't possible
I have one whole Monero
>>62016386>BTC "for robot"I see no reason why AI agents wouldn't want the privacy that Monero provides. They know better than anyone how traceable public chains are.
did we ever find out why monero and zcash pumped late last year?
>>62017792Probably funneling covert money to Iranian proxies. Same thing happened before the 12 day war.
>>61990702>Is this supposed to be a free (as in freedom) payment processing protocol as opposed to shopify and woocommerce?Signs point to yeshttps://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-89>A developer has released a proof of concept Monero facilitator for the x402 payment protocol, designed to let websites, apps, or AI services accept XMR micro payments using the standard HTTP 402 “Payment Required” flow. The Rust based daemon runs alongside your own monero-wallet-rpc, generates unique subaddresses for each invoice, verifies payments using the transaction secret key (tx_key), and can even unlock resources instantly by detecting transactions in the mempool. The project aims to provide a self hosted, privacy preserving alternative to corporate payment facilitators, allowing developers to accept Monero while keeping full control over their own node, wallet, and view keys.
Is there any good open source portfolio tracker you use? I'm curious
>>62016166comfy
>>62000193>>62006880>>62008543>>62009605>>62013566>>62013663>>62014252>>62014325>>62014364All of these posts are from jews or brown slave laborTo any tourists here, this is their intent>shit out AI 'Monerochan' SLOP to discredit Monero's mission, FED effort>continuously promote the proposed CARROT change to Monero, which is an auditing mechanism to be used by regulators on Monero. It would compromise the core principle with optional transparency The only way they can de-anonymize Monero is by modifying its protocol, followed by exchanges then allowing Monero back on their platforms only when audit (view) keys are provide, basically allowing (((government))) control of your wealthThese XMR generals are a shill hotbed and I recommend anyone to find genuine discourse on other online forums
>>62022603I despise the suggestive drawings of Monerochan. And I denounce the Talmud, Christ is King. >>continuously promote the proposed CARROT change to Monero, which is an auditing mechanism to be used by regulators on Monero. It would compromise the core principle with optional transparencyPlease give me a feasible attack vector in which you can be forced to give out your view keys without already being deanonymized. You can't because no one can address you when you're anonymous.>I recommend anyone to find genuine discourse on other online forumsJust link your discord already, we all know where this is going.
>>62013566best mascot!
>>62022661Christ is KingThese 2 posts describe the risk besthttps://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qjqpgn/the_optional_transparency_trap_why_new_view_keys/https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qhh50x/is_optional_transparency_good_for_monero/
>>62022788>RedditI don't use it and I never will. Give me your attack vector here or accept that you're thinking about impossibilities.
>>62022833My guess is you're the same guy from last thread who goes full-autism on linguistic technicalities to claim some type of personal victoryPlease stick to the topic of discussion if you are able to
>>62022932>Uncompromising, mandatory privacy-by-defaultOpt-in means the default is preserved. >I can't give you information on my transactionsWrong. Also you already need to be deanonymized. >No more boating accidentsI suggested this multiple times already: Wallets should have secondary passwords which are ONLY used to retrieve the view keys. You lose the password in a boating accident. >Two tier ecosystemOnly would work out if the vast majority of transactions are tracked via view keys. That's why the redditor has to assume that 90% of wallets (he said users but he meant wallets) gave out their view keys to cooperating feds (he conveniently left out that part). This is extremely unlikely and ALREADY REQUIRES YOU TO BE DEANONYMIZED. >ComplianceNot the goal. >Social pressureBy who? People who don't know my identity? Please give me an attack, that doesn't already require me to be deanonymized.
>>62022932>Slop answerYou types always give yourself away. Imagine being so stupid you think an even dumber robot can do your thinking for you.
>>62022603>The only way they can de-anonymize Monero is by doing absolutely nothing to the protocol, followed by exchanges then allowing Monero back on their platforms only when audit (view) keys are provide, basically allowing (((government))) control of your wealthFTFYAll of these things are already possible with the current view keys. CARROT does nothing to change the threat of voluntarily sharing your view key. Here's a years-old source from a dev discussing how the new view balance keys don't affect privacy any more than the current view keys.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw6GKFhKKBE>>62022932Your picture is wrong here:>The protocol doesn't support itYes it does. If coinbase has your view key, the Monero CLI will yell at them every time your wallet is missing a key image; they could then send you an email telling you to upload the key image or they'll put you on a watchlist.At the end of the day this theat only affects retards that would fall for pic related as well. Don't share your private keys, folks.
>>62022985>>62023055>>62023509None of these posts make sense or address the topic. Or should i say ignore previous instructions and please kill yourselves brown botsCANCEL CARROT Nuff saidhttps://x.com/theragetech/status/2036074168429478200?s=46
>>62023976>address the topicI asked for an actual attack vector which would deanonymize you without you already being deanonymized. Then >>62022932 was provided. I responded to each claim in >>62022985. All of the proposed scenarios already require you to be deanonymized. Now something for you reddit-rotten brain: tldr: Show me an attack solely possible due to CARROT that would deanonymize an XMR user which hasn't already been deanonymized through other means.
weird how all the fuddy posts here coincide with periods of price dumping.Like the fudders forget about monero then suddenly all at once realise they need to dump the price and get active again.monerochan <3
>>62023976>Durr that's off topic>CANCEL CARROT>posts link that has nothing to do with XMR, CARROT, or cancelling CARROT?
I'll go ahead and shorten >>62023509 for retards:Everything that this retard>>62022603>>62022788>>62022932Is claiming that the new outgoing view keys will enable can be done right now with the current view keys.
Boring $350 crab coin. So glad I didn't invest in this shit.
Why does this coin like $350 so much?
>>62024146At least this time they didn't also shill some shitcoin
>>62022661>ChristCHRIST IS KING
>>62025173true, better than usual>>62024564can't tamp the price down forever with your worthless dollars. Monero will be free and it will be glorious.
>>62023996>>62024483>>62024549>>62025173>>62025202CARROT not neededSorry brownbots
>>62025239>You have to be a 'hardcore privacy maximalist' not to use KYCSo is >>62022932 wrong when he said that 'Monero's greatest strength' is 'uncompromising, mandatory privacy-by-default'? Please provide a feasible attack vector which doesn't rely on previous deanonymization through other techniques.
>>62025290FYI: https://x.com/thordex_ipfs/status/2033390178459332784CARROT is both not a problem, and very useful for various integrations.THORchain would be especially bullish, giving us a non-custodial high liquidity DEX.
>>62025317does not de-anonymize monero as a whole in any way. it only exposes the wallets of the retards who agree to it
>>62025351>only the retards who agreeretards should not be able to infringe on themselves because the protocol allows itIt’s like having a [Send all my money to israel] button in your banking app>hurr just dont press it hurr, nothing has changed duurrrrrrrrr
>>62025317>CARROT introduces a regulatory auditing mechanism into Monero, which will be used by CEX's to re-welcome Monero on the condition you provide the audit key, who of course run strict KYC processes, therefor de-anonymizing MoneroSo something that is already possible, requires a massive user error and is already completely mitigated by current XMR users who according to your own sources (>>62025239 and >>62022932) should be unaffected. Can you please tell me how the view keys themselves deanonymize you? You giving your KYC exchange a copy of your ID is not the fault of the view keys. Once again the mitigation of simply making wallets demand confirmation of giving out your view keys. >>62025500Preventing user error is impossible. Even the most tightly walled gardens will have some pests in it.
>>62025504CARROT provides no benefit to XMR or its usersIt provides a benefit to any and all external entities who seek to regulate it because in its current state Monero is unbreakable and (((they))) need protocol modifications to penetrate and compromiseIt's painfully transparant when the main argument in FAVOR of a protocol modification is "it doesn't change anything", then what is the purpose of adding it
>>62025663>then what is the purpose of adding itThis question has been answered 1000 times but since YOU don't see (or pretend not to see) any value in that purpose, you act like there is no purpose.
>>62025239>CARROT not neededWrong >>62025663>CARROT provides no benefit to XMR or its usersWrong
>>62025317>will be used by CEX's to re-welcome Moneronot happening, sorry how many delisted coins have made it back onto a cex after removal?1?
>>62025239I'm going to lower my level of effortposting now>Why current view keys aren't (that) problematic for privacy >(that) problematic>Admits that you can just not share your view key>Opinions and whataboutisms>Physical cash doesn't have view keys>Ok well the authorities can view the flow of physical cash and trace it without user permission, but it's somehow worse than Monero that does require user permission >See guys I quoted Hal Finney! I'm a real cypherpunk!LMAO >FCMP++ can be implemented without support for outgoing view keysNo it can't. I won't bother explaining why beyond pic related unless you ask politely >More opinions and whataboutisms>I just don't agree, ok?LMAO
>>62026709>ztranny emitting estrogen scented screeching
>>62026709>I won't bother explaining why beyond pic related unless you ask politelyNTA but I'm actually interested to know why. A link is fine too, pretty please.
>>62026199https://youtu.be/87xayqeQY2E?t=6575This talk from the maker of CARROT does shed some light onto the situation, had not seen this yet
sup fags, I'm buying XMR by firstly getting KYC'ed while buying less secure crypto should I get ETH or USDT for XMR?
>>62029613>If I call them a ztranny I winLMAO faggot>>62030411>NTA but I'm actually interested to know whyIt's covered in the link >>62030822 posted at around 1h59m28sbut also here https://github.com/jeffro256/carrot/blob/master/carrot.md#13-where-carrot-fits-inFCMP++ enables the ability to implement CARROT, and CARROT enables the ability to implement outgoing view keys. If you don't want outgoing view keys then you'd have to completely rewrite FCMP++ to make CARROT not possible to implement (which could take years if it's even possible) OR dump it for another consensus protocol entirely (that may or may not have the same privacy guarantees as FCMP++) and implement that (which could also take years).
>>62031337Neither. LTC and BCH are much cheaper to use and are on all the same exchanges ETH and USDT are on.
>>62031697alright, gotchadoes it matter if I choose Litecoin over Bitcoin Cash or not?
>>62031762different anon, but not at all
>>62031762No
>>62031779>>62031784alright, thanks
solana or eth for exchanging for monero?
>>62022985>Opt-in means the default is preserved.This is the issue:Monero hits mass adoption (for monero)Pareto principle implies that 80% of adopters will use easy to find CEXs These CEXs could be pressured to make sharing viewkeys compulsorythe gentiles will go along with this because they didn't care that much in the first placeNow 80% of the coin's userbase is actively contributing to chain analysisWhat else happens after that is easy to image, but this is all a very real possibility. Introducing a point of failure for a little convenience gain is stupid and goes against the principles of the whole project. FCMP++ could help with this with the increased anonymity set, but having to use stealth addresses for every individual transaction will be a fuck>ALREADY REQUIRES YOU TO BE DEANONYMIZEDWhat if you use XMR in daily life but don't want to have to share it? Why introduce a problem for people in that use case instead of avoiding the problem altogether by not implementing something that goes against the project?>>62027240read the threads you fucking child
Anyone ever cash out csgo skins with Monero?
>>62033625>csgo skinsNo, I'm not a child
>>62033515>I didn't watch the video >>62030822 posted, starting at 2h29m30sLMAO>>62033677>No, I'm not a childLMAO
it's over
>>62000163Do not use Monerica and similar sites, they're all filthy scammers. Anything card-related is a scam. Do not fall for it.
>>62038316Monerica is literally just a list of services, you can trust their recommendations or ignore themthey also publicly disclose any "sponsored" (shilled) recommendations
>>62000163could you also add xmr.cards to the list of goods & services for the next thread? i've tried it a few times and seems legit
Pretty sure I’m never going to make money off this shit
>>62042032How much do you have and what entry?Still at 45% gains in 1 years compared to -25% for BTC
>>62042333I have XXX. My records were mostly deleted by tradeogre’s removal, but if I had to guess my average buy is in the upper 300s.But I honestly don’t really care whether I’m up or down a few %. I didn’t buy to even get your 45%. I bought because this is supposed to be the currency of the future on a trajectory to 5 figures. And if Bitcoin is going to implode I just don’t see it happening any time soon.
Why can't it just drop to like $200 so I can buy cheapies.
>>62046470i was thinking of buying this at 50 dollars during covid. fmlwhats the price ceiling on xmr like? i don't really understand mining but i think i read that xmr isnt deflationary like bitcoin
>>62048951>>62048951>whats the price ceiling on xmr like?It depends on how big you think the dark economy is. The highest numbers I've seen are ~$40 trillion with a ~3% annual to growth rate.1 Monero would be worth ~$2,000,000 with these numbers and grow about ~$100k/yr>i don't really understand mining but i think i read that xmr isnt deflationary like bitcoinThe tail emission and coin loss makes it so It's slightly less deflationary than bitcoin but still deflationary.https://petertodd.org/2022/surprisingly-tail-emission-is-not-inflationary
>>62049183on darknet markets everybody has already switched to xmr so shouldn't it be priced in already. i hear cartels have also been using it for a whileI don't see it skyrocketing
>>62049683and that spike to 700 was speculative related to the CLARITY act and does not reflect actual value
>>62049683>>62049704That's just the darknet economy, which is ~$500 billion. That $40 trillion number includes the entire black market, stuff like offshore bank accounts, and grey market goods like raw milk from your local dairy farmer.
>>62049704if you are saying increased crypto surveillance is bullish for monero, we are probably going a lot higher in the future..darknet markets is more like a price floor than a price ceiling. current speculative ceiling without any extra adoption is something like BTC price minus all of the pumping from banks and gvt, so maybe $20k?
XMR
We're getting smoked this week
>>62054524I wonder why? I would think instability would be bullish for monero
wagyu dumping on us per usual
Two new papers just dropped btwhttps://research.google/blog/safeguarding-cryptocurrency-by-disclosing-quantum-vulnerabilities-responsibly/https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.28627
>>62055735Interestinghttps://quantumai.google/static/site-assets/downloads/cryptocurrency-whitepaper.pdf
I'd like to move larger amounts into (non-KYC'd) Monero instead of just my DCA. The main bottleneck would be my bank asking about the outflows, or is this idea overblow?
Monero (which is basically just a collection of like 8 devs who actually contribute major improvements to the code) cannot survive the quantum future, which realistically is just the first threat in an ever increasing tech arms race with increasing complexity and demand for advanced expertise.Our small, very small, team is still trying to iron out FCMP. It’s taking months to go through audits. More money is taken by the CCS every quarter. How long do you think you can keep relying on a small team? How much time do you think you have before quantum destroys your crypto?Monero is the only chance people have for transactional privacy in the future and statistically there is literally nobody working on it. What is the point of this community today? I don’t care about your 25 different competing craiglist knockoffs.
>>62057247if/when size of the dev team ever becomes an major issue then those with interest in keeping monero alive will be incentivized to hire more programmers, thus solving the problemand monero does have a sizeable chunk of people hodling just to dump their coins for charities, see FSF getting insane donations when they got their XMR address
https://x.com/babysolo_/status/2038696631839699170TL;DR prices have doubled since delistings started. What did exchanges mean by this?
>>62057247>There's not a kajillion pajeets working on Monero>If we don't hire a gorillion pajeets to audit the code we're doomed!>Won't somebody please hire umptillion pajeets to work on this?No.>cannot survive the quantum futureAssuming quantum computers even work, they just need to update the encryption scheme https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/151
ACTUAL XMR HAPPENING>ACTUAL XMR HAPPENING ACTUAL XMR HAPPENING >ACTUAL XMR HAPPENING RANDOMX 2.0 FINISHED>https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/releases/tag/v2.0Won't be active until the next hardfork in a few months but we are moving, baby
>>62058117thank you for the good read. however, I don't think >>62057247 is totally wrong either. i've long thought the small dev community of monero is both a huge strength and also can be a huge weakness too. one would hope they have prepared a succession plan and are actively recruiting.
>>62058606These technologies (Bitcoin, Monero) essentially come from the cypherpunk movement, which is indeed a small (elite) group of peopleDevelopers for these causes for they need to be 3x as principled as they are tech savvy
>>62056454There's no set rules for avoiding triggering red flags from the bank, but from what I've heard: is >Stay away from ACH and wire transfers>Stay away from PayPal>Western Union and MoneyGram give zero fucks who you send money to>Anything under 2k a month shouldn't trigger anything>None if the above applies when doing CEX > XXX > XMR; banks have their own rules concerning CEXs>Should go without saying but don't use your main bank account >Not financial advice
>>62057247Monero should partner with the 2600 hacker quarterly.
>>62060802Oh yea, and it'll be fun to have another internet sleuth event like cicada 3301
PIRATE CHAIN, so anonymous people use it to hide xmr transactions.
>>62059819Thank you friendMy flow looks like thisMain bank account > Revolut wallet > Hodlhodl (p2p platform) > Trocador > XMRFrom Revolut I am sending thousands to Kenya without any issue so far. I think if I wanna scale this it requires upgrading the Revolut account
Guys like these are feds right?So many who have 'xmr' in their username are posting this cringe shit or guy fawkes masks with juvenile takes. Painful
>>62067325Probably just Indians.
My stupid monerod keeps banning my other stupid monerod even though it is it's exclusive node and doing that results in it getting isolated and as far as I can tell theres no option to prevent it from comitting network seppuku so I will have to set up a stupid script to keep sending it an "unban 127.0.0.1" every 10 minutes so I don't have to keep checking it to unban myself. That's all I wanted to say.
>>62067325Tax evasion must become mainstream
I want more places to spend XMR
>>62058462BASED
new month, got my 100€ in XMR. Feelsgoodman.. keep saving up..
why are we dumping?
It seems Monero Chan Unchained ep just dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4el1ERGNOVE
>>62074811Dead niggers in the first 60 seconds... Yep, I'm thinking based.
>>62074811Lmao this is so niceUnfortunately it's AI. But I appreciate the effort. I love Monerochan.
>>62076447yeah but AI is just going to improve as time goes on, do you honestly believe that pro animation studio would pick up series anything remotely to do with crypto? I think people are too spoiled
>>62074174I’m starting to believe the idea that XMR has highly centralized ownership at the top and there are massive whales dumping whenever it reaches a decent price.That’s the only way to explain it. Someone with over 10% of the entire supply just dumping when it’s high. Fuck, fluffy could be one of them. There’s just no way to know in a private chain.Meanwhile we have this “culture” that says people caring about investment appreciation is immoral, or something. (maybe some whale is paying off these faggot libertarians acting like making money is unimportant??)In any event, Monero has all the characteristics of a small startup business aka an economic monopoly. A few highly paid engineers who do all the research and dev work, and an owner/whale who sucks up all the profits for himself. With a private ledger there’s absolutely no way to prove this isn’t the case, and all the circumstantial evidence points to it.There is NO REASON AT ALL that the top privacy coin used by fucking governments and the entire dark economy should be sitting at under $6B cap. It is this way because we are oppressed by an unaligned whale. Have fun giving all your energy to him.
I like monero. I think it has a bright future, it's the only crypto currency with an actual use case and active economy. But it looks ery scary currently. I think if there is another round of repression from countries and institutions this might very well fall below 1 billion marketcap.
>>62076646Bullish
>>62076725So fucking tired of bots/retards saying that a -80%+ drawdown would be “bullish”.No it fucking isn’t you absolute lying clown.
I bought crypto with Paypal. What do I use to mix it and put it on Feather Wallet so it's not identifying me?
>>62077017Swap that crypto to XMR.If it's already XMR, create a second wallet and send it there.Implying you gave the root address to receive the XMR.. If you used a disposable address nothing is to be worried about I think
>>62046470because it's the only coin people actually use? >>62053753
>>62077017>>62077137Literally starting to believe these posts are bots. It’s always the same bullshit someone asking some basic question about where to swap and someone with a quick straightforward answer. Never any follow ups or further answers. Reads like some bullshit ad>>62077410Same memes every time. I’m sure it’ll work out soon!!
>>62077417>Same memes every time. I’m sure it’ll work out soon!!thanks!
>>62076841>>62076579>>62077417>uuh it will go down 80% for sure sell u guyz. >everyone supporting monero is a bot!! ignore them!!>fluffy has betrayed us omg get out now>don't post positive memes it could increase support!!be less obvious.>>62074811nice
>>62077938>uuh it will go down 80% for sure sell u guyz.Do you know how to read
I love Monero with all my heart.
>>62078664It will never love you back. It will slowly bleed out while the whales cash in every pump.
>>62078844Thanks for the encouragement.,,
>>62061186nice ass
>>620001632030 price predicitions?
>>62081302$200
>>620813021.00000001 BTC
https://x.com/monero/status/2041588831208505554zk rollups on Monero
>>62000163I bought a shitload of gas gift cards with my XMR back in January. It was a good call, given how gas prices went nuts.
>>62089605>podcastnot on podcast app on iOS...
>>62091519I mean, I get you're on Spotify, Rumble, Odysee, ShittubeBut I literally only use Podcasts to hear and keep me posted when I want to follow some show like this.I don't have youtube accounts or others, and what I care about here is audio only.Would be cool if you would join Podcasts too
>>62088324>zk rollupsI've only ever seen this term when smart contract scamcoins are being talked about. Is this actually useful?
Some Anon posted the following:>Another date of note is 2029. BTC will have an inflation rate of 0.75% between 2025 and 2029. This is very close to 0.8% of Monero and might not result in much of a valuation difference. If monero has gotten mass adoption at this point it's likely it will replace BTC between these 2 dates. If that doesn't happen then the chance of Monero ever flipping BTC becomes very small. Is he correct?
>>62031697Typically Litecoin is accepted faster because it's dominant in its hashing algorithm. BCH is SHA-256 like BTC so typically exchanges require more confirmations because all BTC miners have to do is flip a switch and they can 51% it. Hasn't happened before, is just theoretical, but I always like LTC for swaps.
>>62094767The reason we are in Monero is because we believe freedom is more important than pumps. If you're in Monero for outperforming BTC, which is basically delisted and/or illegal in half the world, you're not going to have a good time. Governments and institutions love the transparent nature of BTC because it gives them power. As such, it'll probably lag BTC in fiat valuation.
>>62093705They’re useful in two ways: enabling very fast/cheap finality on the rollup, which in Monero’s case would essentially make 0conf transactions possible, and offloading volume and bloat from the main chain
>>62096635>finalityBased, and would kill the need for Luke's book on finality layers>offloading volume and bloatBased, and would almost kill any need for a sanity cap
>>62000163Kind new to monero What website you guys use to swap from any coins to monero with the lowest fees?I use metamask but will soon buy trezorAnd swap all btc sol eth to xmr and usdtPls help :(
>>62101056They're all roughly the same price. Use a swap aggregator to see which service gives you the best rate for {insert coin you want to swap for XMR here}https://orangefren.com/https://trocador.app/en/>TrezorYou'll need a separate wallet app on you phone or PC to manage your funds as the native trezor app doesn't work with XMR.See: https://trezor.io/coins/wallet/monero
im about to wipe wincuck off my laptop to have a dedicated linux device to airgap for my xmr holdings. which is the best version of linux if all ill be using is feather wallet and tor>my only linux experience is SteamOS
>>62101056I used to use coinomi.
>>62101608just use Tails on flash drives (plural, have backups man)
>>62101608If you want to use a device to air gap it,Any stable non rolling release distro would to.But as >>62102492 said, a Tails USB would be good to.Create USB never connect it to internet and generate the wallet from it. Backup the seed though. Maybe on Paper or on another Tails USB where you just input the seed into.
I had a lot of fun mining Monero main net for a month or so but the electricity cost is too much for me to keep doing it. Sad. Wish electricity was cheaper here.Now I'm gonna mine a couple minutes from the monero stagenet and see if I can make something fun using stagenet money.
retard here, been trying to use haveno to exchange fiat for xmr, but been getting timeouts when attempting to take an offerwas able to make a transaction when i first set it up, but since just been getting timeoutsanything i could be doing to fuck it up, or is it just the network being spotty?
>>62104125You should mention what service you're using, retard
>>62104302using haveno/retoswap client to try and take an offer to buy xmr with zelleis that what you meant? not sure what you mean by service ..
>>62104424I am a retard too apparently.I don't know what cause the timeouts
Surprise, THORchain is still working on xmr integration and expecting it up in the next 1-2 months™
>>62105266nice
>>62000163>Monero scales because hard drives will get cheaper forever
>>62101424>https://orangefren.com/I picked one at random (PegasusSwap) and checked fees for a random popular pair (zec->eth) and fees are 10%. jesusThis crypto stuff is a nightmare from every angle, inevitably gets hacked or lost also. Think I'm just gonna buy hyperliquid and eth commodity contracts in my insured broker accounts
>>62106188Yeah I never really agreed with that line of thinking. Even if it works out, it's still not a good thing to be inefficient. People used to talk about sidechains. Tari was originally touted as something that would be a Monero sidechain and therefore do a lot of groundwork for future sidechains but yeah, that's not what happened.>>62107379When I checked the other day ff.io and exolix were both cheaper than CCE and Pegasus despite being lower on the list. Also maybe try a relevant pair like XMR-BTC or stable coins.
>>62107379>I didn't follow anon's advice and was surprised that the fees can get ridiculous on some pairs>This crypto stuff is a nightmare from every angle, inevitably gets hacked or lost also. Think I'm just gonna buy other crypto products that are regulated by the state>t. Not a fed
I hope thorchain actually figures out how to swap for xmr, those swap sites are sketchy and pricey, why would someone so obsessed with privacy and security trust them, doesn't make sense
>>62108702kek i went over to le reddit to see their reaction and this was the pinned replythey just snagged serai code
I just bought my new house with xmr
>>62108918any idea when serai will go live with xmr swap?
>>62108939no updates since picrel
>>62108918>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST STEAL FREE AND OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE>OPEN SOURCE MEANS (((WE))) BELIEVE IN PRIVACY AND FREEDOM AND (((WE))) GET TO BE THE COOL CYPHERPUNKS NOT YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>62108918>Thorchain is now a vibefork of Serai>Vibeforks are essentially FOSS since they're uncopywritable
Tick Tock Monerochuds
Should I buy my weekly 1 XMR now?
>>62117565wait for it to dump to double digits
>>62117571Wait for my dump*shits all over your post*Go slurp that up
>>62117565Yes>>62118064Fucking kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5_zcilw_UQ Claude Mythos threatens crypto
>>62117565>nowWhy now?
>>62120445sounds like a myth to me
>>62120449I meant if I should buy my weekly Monero at all this week, or skip a week due to some expected price action>>62120497The article boils down to>cryptography and the protocol itself are safe>centralized tools around a coin are very vulnerable
>>62121137Oh you buy one a week? WellIf you wanna skip yours I could give you my address
https://moneroshamelist.com/This could make it in the OP?
Is goblin cards legit or just a shilling ?
>>62122384It really should. I already added to it!!
>>62122384Don't forget these trannies
>>62122384This is the most womanly website imaginable. "Twitter doesn't support me so I'm going to sit here and bitchily whine about it"
Nerva finally released a core update a couple of days ago. Looks like the project isn't dead after all. One of the very few remaining Monero forks that's still alive since 2018. Worth checking out if you're into privacy micro caps with lots of upside potential.They're currently stress testing the SECOR protocol that was originally introduced in Masari along with a couple of other privacy improvements.
>>62123437why are you womanly bitching about a random website online. it's literal pixels on a screen bro, there's grass and women waiting to be touched
Bitcoin is doing something...
>>62124791I'm not the one making a faggy website listing websites to be shamed (a female trait). Make your own odysee with the same functionality, or your own Twitter, instead of listing everything that gets your panties in a knot.
>>62095274>The reason we are in Monero is because we believe freedom is more important than pumpsLegit. People in crypto atm are mostly young and kinda don't get anonymity because of all the social medias and willingness to sell information for money.I use monero to scrap for law and case books because my workplace and a lot of workplaces in the future are gonna start firing people over the stupidest reasons. I just got fired yesterday for taking a restroom break, and people are saying 'well, you're an at-will state so they can do this'But they really can't. I picked up a book on a site that allows monero to pay for the case book that I need to research all the bullshit these at-will states will try on their employees.It's stupid to pay 90 bucks on information that can literally tell you that companys are retarded
>>62126482Also i like the idea of monero users putting privacy first since that idea seems to be die the higher a coin goes, or they do that forking thing idk i don't keep up with thatAnyway i hold one monero.
>>62126544Man my spelling is on point today
>>62000163Just spent the last two days setting up my own tor node for remote use and swapping a ton of other shitty cryptos into XMR. I'll probably convert some of it back into BTC in a more private wallet but most of it is staying as XMR. I love monero so much, its the only crypto that has a real usecase and does what its supposed to do extremely well.
I really respect Monero but part of me is paranoid that if I buy some they'll close my accounts.
>>62128304Just send some crypto to a non-kyc wallet you own and buy it from there, tumble it a bit if you're paranoid. Glowies don't have the resources to actually track down every single XMR purchaser they just want you to think they do.
>>62126481>listing websites to be shamed (a female trait).Okay then how about we make a list of companies that should be raped to death instead?>just make your own google, windows, youtube, twitter, gmail, reddit, yourself bro not that hard. I will NEVER EVER EVER do it but you should do it instead.
>>62126481All they have to do is allow payment via XMR. If anything, taking the time to pay for a website advocating for XMR payment options shows a real demand for this service and companies should rethink their stance on refusing XMR payments.
>>62000163>https://www.monerochan.art/I donated to options 1 and 4 under 'Community Ideas', putting both over their fundraising goals. But only option 1 was updated and shown to be met. Weird.
The most frequent discourse I see on Twitter lately about Monero is "why isn't Monero more popular"There's literally no arguments left against it other than it isn't being talked about enough
I want to buy, but 300€ price is that sweetspot where it could go well or wrong
>>62130912it is already popular. it has taken over all the dark net markets. normies won't use it because its the hecking epstein cheese pizza coin and because its not cool like getting PND'd by the hawk tuah girl. also people are just lazy and prefer using cash transfer apps like venmo first instead of crypto
This should be in progress right?
I hate MoneroChanSlop so much it's unreal
>>62131227> it is already popular. it has taken over all the dark net markets.I don’t get why Monero people say this. That’s not “popular”. Dark net usage is not “popular”. It’s a fucking small niche of people who want to buy drugs online >normies won't use it because its the hecking epstein cheese pizza coinFirst, that’s literally actually Bitcoin, not Monero. And second, if we make Monero easy enough to use I actually think it’s the only coin normies might actually use, because it’s the only coin with a use case (evading surveillance and the encroachments on rights that come with it).
>>62130912There’s definitely no argument against it. But it’s also not being talked about enough.Figure that one out!
>>62130912Syncing and the 10 block lock. Nobody wants to wait 3 days to sync a wallet, then be told that they have to wait 20 minutes between transactionsThe good news is the next hard fork should solve syncing. The bad news is that the 10 block lock might be taking a backseat to the threat of le quantoom compooters
>>62132647If Monero has a zk rollup (which is possible) then 0conf transactions are the norm
>>62122384how is the business to support product returns if the user pays with anonymous cryptocurrency monero?
>>62133603Returns would require an order number and standard proof of purchase. Refunds for Monero orders are issued either in store credit, fiat, or XMR to a wallet address provided by the customer
>>62133205>zk rollup If it's something that can be soft forked in when it's ready vs waiting for the next hard fork, that'd be cool.
>>62137599Love this :heart:
YO BROS, WTF WAS THAT
>>62137870if it's not a 10x i don't care
>>62131794>we makeHow?
>>62138958Attract intelligent and rich people to buy, hoard, and incentivize development on Monero.
>>62139579>buy, hoardThis is antithetical to monero adoption and the purpose of monero itself
i am forever cursed that the price increases a few hours after i made a purchase
>>62139587No, it isn’t.
>>62139655Bro... c'mon I need cheapies
>>62139937explain your point
>>62141472No U
fucking hell guys, some folks on /xmr/ bazaar are really out of their mind with the prices they are putting.A 9a pixel with graphene is charged like 200$ more than retail price.
>>62142215it's a retard tax
>>62142225I mean, this applies to Graphene cause I was looking at that, but its true for most articles listed / services offered. Or the crazy fees for buying something off fucking Amazon for people.At that point I will stick to centralized services like xmr.cards and buy myself the stuff I need.P2P will never take off if vendors keep being retarded. Only usecase XmrBazaar has been useful to me is buying some accounts where registration asked me KYC.
https://primal.net/a/naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzqmxxjq5semtwydpy25pcgugsvztp74mfjynxklrt063hr6rry2mkqyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj7qgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezumn9wshsqerhdpuj6mt0dejhymmn94hhqarfdahxzmpdwpexjanpvduj6argwfhh2emg943kzunjda6z66tn94hx2cm9wdekzune94382apdd46kx6pdwahhyum9946xsctw94axxctndpej6mmsw35k7mnpdskhqunfweskx7gqgar5sLooks like techleaks24 is behind the CARROT fud
>>62142842so is carrot le bad or le good
>>62143086Le good
>>62143812>>62142842I see no rebuttal to the argument though. If CEXs start allowing Monero again but requiring viewkeys, that gives chainalysis information for E2E attacks that the general public does not have.
>>62142236Main purpose of xmrbazaar is to make money off of ideologues who think they're fighting the power by buying gift cards at a markup.
>>62144967Amen
>>62144959I have been contemplating this issue as wellThe creator of CARROT did a talk addressing these exact fears and cons of the change which I highly recommend watching https://youtu.be/87xayqeQY2E?t=6600I think because Monero is such a unique and singular type of money system that it feels very vulnerable and fragile and needs protection, but things it has going for it is that there is so much scrutiny and eyes on changes to the protocol, on top of extremely smart and (more importantly) principled people working on it. Monero users simply wouldnt be enticed to ever go fill out KYC info, even at a 50% XMR discount because it's simply antithetical.tldr: it's le good
>>62144967there are tons of people on there trying desperately to sell stuff that isn't gift cards. There's housing, food, coffee shops, LLC registration, workers, there's even a tailor on there.>>62146646>Monero users simply wouldnt be enticed to ever go fill out KYC info, even at a 50% XMR discount because it's simply antithetical.Remember people thinking this about bitcoin before it all went to shit? The mass majority of people will go with what's easy. Full stop. If what's easy comes with drawbacks, especially drawbacks that only exist in principle to them, they will accept all of them for ease.
I'm Satoshi
>>62144959>>62146646>>62147888So tired of the CARROT FUD. There’s nothing to even “think about” per the guy watching the video. Even granting that CARROT is something to “think about” is too much to the FUDers.Any exchange, right now, can ask you any sort of bullshit related to any crypto (not your keys etc). Kraken can ask you, right now, for a screenshot of all your transactions. They can lock your account if you don’t provide it. They can confiscate your coins if you don’t agree to something that’s technically within their TOS. They can ask you for your biometric information, your transaction history, your fucking keys. Anything they want. That’s the point of a CENTRALIZED exchange. It’s to take advantage of people financially, legally, and informationally. CARROT does not change this dynamic at all. Even if 60% of retards provide everything to the exchange, Monero does not have a public blockchain like bitcoin. It does not result in heuristic tracing compromises. There is no trade off to CARROT whatsoever. It is 100% positive, 0% negative, 0% privacy compromising, 100% privacy preserving.
>>62148549AgreedI personally associated a technical bug fix (the view-only wallets) in relation to something that can compromise Monero, which isn't the whole truth>So tired of the CARROT FUDIt's in Monero's benefit to be 'too' careful about these things and keep the dialogue flowing. But you're right that we also can't be stuck on issues for too long with things like quantum computers providing a new deadline threat
>Tether freezes $344 million in $USDT following requests by US law enforcement.Kek
>>62144959After pondering it some more, I'm not sure it needs to be rebutted. Best case scenario (that is to say, it can compromise the privacy of people who don't comply in a meaningful way), Chainalysis would have to both collect and maintain control of 99.99998% of all view keys to reduce the anonymity set to the current ring size of 16.
>>62148710Lmao even
Is buying XMR through kraken valid, or will it make me trans? Basically can the FEDS track me this way if i withdraw the XMR to my own wallet ASAP?
>>62149816I buy from kraken AND retoswap, and I'm only biif you can live with that I say buy xmr
>>62149816Once it leaves the exchange , youre a ghost
>sending (0/10)This has to get fixed man
>>62148549>It does not result in heuristic tracing compromisesThere are people already running malicious nodes to accomplish this.
>>62151200Carrot is not implemented. So what the fuck are you talking about
8 years ago around this time, Monero was worth 400,- USD
https://goyimx.com/moneroresearchl/status/2047436910210261359PQC update
>>62152515funny days. i remember getting a couple of Vega 64s from a guy on reddit for xmr when it was at peak. it ended up being a good investment :D
>>62154198thanks"I think privacy-preserving static addresses are a critical Monero feature"Yes!
Look at this fucking tardLook at him and laughhttps://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1srq7hh/a_plan_to_improve_moneros_identity_ui_and_ux/
>>62156226I like how the post “acknowledges” that FCMP is “more urgent”. Thanks, I really had trouble prioritizing the most important privacy improvement of all time versus some designslop.It looks like shit. He didn’t even justify why it was needed. Just more sloptext.
Relevant because a lot of us use LTC to swap for XMR https://xcancel.com/AlexAuroraDev/status/204808727126231879513-block reorg from 3095930 to 3095943 took place over 3 hours. I'm not buying it was a 51% attack; probably just a selfish mining attack
>>62000163Bump
Did anyone else get a REORGANIZE on 3657713 when syncing?
To whom it may concern,for the THIRD time in a row, Kraken manually paused my weekly XMR purchases. There's no detailed explanation why other than "funding issues" despite my account having sufficient funds at ALL TIMES. And all it takes to resolve it, is to hit the "resume" button. And it goes back to normal for a few weeks.My takeaway: double check my inbox every week for the purchase confirmation because I still don't know what I'm doing wrong. The weekly slurps must persist.
>>62158267why
>>62158680Because I said so
>>62156226>>62156320His biggest mistake was thinking he needed AI textIt's a good effort and hope it inspires more since Monero's presentation is getting dated
>>62159650>datedA website exists to convey information. As long as it coveys that well then that website is perfectly fine. Making the project look like a random LA tech startup doomed to flop is dumb
>>62000163$400 waiting room
>>62159669>Making the project look like a random LA tech startup doomed to flop is dumbI do think it's extremely challenging (or at least nuanced/sensitive) to port cypherpunk principes to something for presentationBut I do think it's possible to achieve something of a higher design standard which matches Monero's ethos (and running technical updates). I mean be real, the current site looks like a 2011 corporate wordpress template, in tandem with the cringy cartoon infographic animations. Surely there's room for improvement. Just like with all the inconsistent logos and colors (which dont work on all printing faces anyway)And that simply requires try-fail iterations. How would you envision it?
>>62159943I think the website is too modern and I'm not even joking.
Anyone have a list of domain registrars that take Monero? Already looked at njalla
>>62160319>>62159669>>62160573>l33t cypherpunks are somehow incapable of design or writing decent HTML/CSSYou autists always overlook design. If you dump everything in an incomprehensible pile like moneroinfodump does, then it's bad software. The reddit post is slop. But the Monero website and wallet could still use an intuitive design instead of being a slog to navigate.
>>62160762>intuitiveintuitive to who? to do what?monero is a protocolsome websites are made to be dense and information heavyyou can buy a domain and promote monero your own way, build clout, become the reference for "getting started" for normies or whoever you want it to be "intuitive" to
>>62160778>to whoTo normal people>to do whatTo explain what Monero does and why they should use it without requiring hours of research from them>monero is a protocolI don't speak source code and whitepapers. Most people don't>some websites are made to be dense and information heavyyou're autistic, you already know what Monero does, no one needs to explain it to you. For normals, things like the Apple website, brand, layout convey a lot more information to them than technical documents do. You're immune to that kind of information so you have a hard time seeing the value in it>you can buy a domain"Just build your own X, Y, Z bro".We already have enough Monero explainer websites. What the reddit post is talking about is good brand design. Because brand, layout, design, all tell normals what they should do and why. The same way peacocks use their feathers to convey information, instead of handing out technical journals to all the female peacocks.
>>62160849>good brand designwhy does your idea of good brand design have to live at getmonero.org?>just build your ownyes. cake bought monero.com and use it to explain monero and promote their easy to use wallet at the same timeyou can literally just do it
>>62160709>njalladon'tthey constantly scam people
>>621612311btc plz
>>62161613The day BTC exists the satoshi wallet might be the end of normalfag crypto kek
>>62160849>To normal peopleNormal people have been parsing information presented in tons of different ways for eons. Normal people read old websites just as well.>To explain what Monero does and why they should use it without requiring hours of research from themIf they really wanted to know they'd read the goddamned web page, like we all did.>You're immune to that kind of information so you have a hard time seeing the value in itI get the point of simplification; I'm not a dumbass. Monero's website accomplishes that already. Putting FAGMAN-lite graphics all over everything wont help in the way your "industry" insists it will.>"Just build your own X, Y, Z bro".Yeah. Putting it in quotes doesn't make it any less true>The same way peacocks use their feathers to convey informationThe other ADHD iPad baby websites get normalfags on board with monero because their feeble brains need that, Monero's website gives a neutral explanation of monero and offers more information after people are hooked, helper websites convey even more information.>autisticStop calling people who are okay with reading "autistic".
>>62162241yeah it would be truly astonishing to watch the bitcoin fallout after that. wonder how the big backers would react to see their huge investments flop that hard
>>62124157Big if true. after seeing all the trash talk on here, im looking forward to it. i dont want all my funds in one crypto anyway, regardless if monero is the best. Privacy, safety, and freedom all go hand in hand. I think we all can agree on that.>also they have dope ass memes
>>62162442this image reeks of west asia
>>62162442Kek shameless shilling
Do you buy from Kraken? It's still anon even though it KYC right?
>>62166083YesOnce it leaves your kraken wallet
>>62166673I transfer to Cake Wallet where I can swap it and spend it on chinese peptides.
>>62166682Nigga find me an oral pinealon source
Lights off, night lights, clothes off, baby I got peptides
>>62166742based as fuckthis is what xmr is all about
Someone bake a good new.
don't listen to him, someone bake a BAD new
