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Are corporations retarded?
>Work at a big manufacturing company
>The company pays shit money
>Understaffed as a result
>Employees are overworked and stressed
>Can't keep up with the workload, make costly mistakes, work is less effective
>Something as simple as getting to a wire pallet in the warehouse takes hours because there's too few forklift operators
>High fluctuation so good employees leave after some time
>The employees who stay have to constantly spend their very limited time on training new employees
Is this really more profitable than increasing pay, having lower fluctuation and less stressed and overworked employees?
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>>62013515
Yes, you are a replaceable wagie. While there's no doubt a difference between good and bad employees its not worth an increase in pay. When you are directly tied to production the company wants your pay to be as low as possible. General and administrative costs can be cut at any time, but production is directly tied to their margins, so a 2% pay increase would lower their valuation by 30% or so. To you it might seem like a big deal of things working slow, but to the owners and upper management they couldn't care less.
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>>62013527
There's mainly a problem with quality management. The people who work in production barely get minimum wage so most of the workers are literally the lowest of the low, retards, alcoholics/junkies and foreigners who can't even speak our language. As a result there are constant problems with the quality of our products. There have been days when we had to scrap a whole day's production because some drunk mongolian didn't follow protocol and fucked up all the products he touched. This of course costs the company hundreds of thousands of dollars. And it also worsens our relationship with our customers who can then force us to lower the price of our products.
Quality is extremely important our customers give us a rating depending on the number of warranty claims, results of audits etc.
The quality department is ofc also understaffed so it's pretty hard to deal with the constant fuck ups in production. We're so understaffed that we often fake important data.
>Customer demands data about the geometry of our products
>The geometry is completely fucked
>Present our customer with made up data and tell him everything is ok
There are some regulations imposed on us by our customers and there's too few people to actually implement those regulations. So we just lie to them and hope we're not gonna get audited. If we actually got audited our customer would stop making mew deals with us which would cost our company millions.
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fluctuation? really
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>>62013580
Sounds like solution is quietly getting your company audited somehow. The cost-cutting process will inevitably drive standards as low as possible again but you might get couple years back
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>>62013580
>The quality department is ofc also understaffed
brother am I responsible for the quality of our products and I am at a point where I do certain assemble processes myself because I cant trust our retards to screw in a few simple screws properly without fucking things up. I literally have to do their job or else we will lose customers to bad quality. sorry for the rant, your post somehow gave me ptsd.
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>>62013621
> I cant trust our retards to screw in a few simple screws properly
One of our workers was supposed to weld part Y to part X. But he ran out of parts Y, so he just welded part A to part X (which makes the product not work) and removed the sticker that says part A because he didn't want to take the 3 minute walk to the warehouse to get part Y lmao.
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>>62013669
yeah thats pretty much the retardation that I expect from our guys. literally nothing one can do because even if you replace someone like that you might end up with a person who is unironically even worse.
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>>62013515
>Are corporations retarded?
Yes. That's why everything is expensive and shit at the same time
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If I left my corp job I would never work in one again, I would start a business or just not work. I hate everything from the culture to the low wages to the stupid made up targets for the sake of targets.
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>>62013515
>>High fluctuation
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>>62013598
I'm and intern and for some reason interns are paid quite well so I'm currently pretty comfy.
But my colleagues are stressed as fuck, they constantly work overtime, they have fucking nightmares about work and the pay is meh. So I don't intend to stay in this company after I graduate from college. Our boss is also a fucking asshole who doesn't respect his employees, lies to them, humiliates them etc.
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>>62013515
Dont care. Not there for eternity, just as long as I bagged in a few 100k.
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>>62013584
I meant employee turnover lol
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>>62013515
I mean, if their workers work hard for cheap and they still are able to hire people... then it does work for them.
also, AFAIK, manufacturing companies are shit, and their alternative is not treating employees better, but automation.

>>62013584
>>62013725
why do you care so much about words) I'd bet OP is ESL (like me), but you still got the message.
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>>62013527
This. Unless those retarded workers discover some dormant brain cells and leave for greener pastures, those companies will keep doing it because it's never failed.
OP, since you have a few more brain cells than the ones around you, make use of it and develop your skillset as much as you can to use it as a springboard for better options. Otherwise, your fate is the same as your co-workers.
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>>62013515
>I provide less value for the company, oh no
Just relax bro. The slaves don't give a shit. The management doesn't give a shit. It's all circus.
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>>62013669
>not my problem
based
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>>62014105
I get that the regular workers in production don't leave. As I said, they're retards, foreigners, alcoholics, ex-cons etc.
But I don't get why my coworkers in the quality department don't leave. A few of them have decent pay, but I don't think it's worth the amount of responsibility and stress. Some of my coworkers barely make more than me and I'm a fucking intern with 0 responsibility.
It's like they've gotten used to being worked like dogs and being chewed out by our boss as a reward for their efforts. Oh and there's basically no opportunity for career advancement.
It's quite sad to see it.
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>>62016225
My friend who works as an airplane mechanic has a similar situation at work. The boss of one of the teams is a massive asshole.
Every morning he has a meeting with his team where he insults and humiliates his subordinates, he tells them stuff like
>You're a useless piece of shit, get out of my sight
>Just quit, you're the shame of the aerospace industry
>I ought to beat your useless ass you fucking retard
And they just take it, they're utterly buckbroken.
It boggles my mind why those people allow some asshole to treat them like slaves
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>>62013669
Yea but if part A into X ended up working better, and making a ton of money for the company, his yearly raise still wouldnt match the rate of inflation. You weld it yourself fag
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>>62013515
>Are corporations retarded?
Yes.

>Is this really more profitable than increasing pay, having lower fluctuation and less stressed and overworked employees?
The value of your labor is falling of a cliff along with the value of the products/services that the company provides.
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Companies and governments and populations are very shortsighted and don't do long-term planning, it's just a big game of hot potato. As long as it doesn't blow up while they're there, it's all good. All of society works like this. Everybody is robbing the future for the present.
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You care, lol, that’s your first mistake
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>>62016455
Yeah, my coworker invented some new production process that will save the company at least a million dollars every year. He got a $1000 bonus as a reward lmao
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>>62013527
You underestimate how long it takes to interview, hire and ultimately train a new employee. It can cost up to tens of thousands per employee and if you do that for a role even once a year or two, that will often be much higher than a pay raise on its own.
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>>62013965
They mean two different things
Employees quitting from high fluctuation implies they get 6 10 hour shifts 1 week and 1 8 hour shift the next week.
High turnover means people quit quickly because ???
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>>62013515
corporations are in the business of loosh mining, the suffering is the point.
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>>62016876
*farming
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>>62016281
>It boggles my mind why those people allow some asshole to treat them like slaves
These people likely have families to feed. Having one instantly turns you into the most cucked creature in existence.
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>>62017065
this. The way slaveowners kept their slaves in check was giving them a wife. The wife rats them out if they express anything contrary to being a slave



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