every consumer and every country is going to want them after this
Elon was right.
>>62016894my country is self sufficient when it comes to oil and gas so no
Yeah, especially cheap Chinese EVs
> war ushers in higher consumer austerity > demand increases for gay shit and meme shitdunno about that one anon
>>62016894We don't make enough electricity for today and you want to rapidly change all transit to electrical? We either get nuclear power plants in mass or mad max long before whatever is in your fucked little head.
>>62017017Transport and energy are some of a society's most fundamental needs
>>62017153Nuclear power plants are incredibly centralized, and thus incredibly easy to destroy using just a few missiles. A PV/BESS component of a power grid is much harder to destroy, and decentralized PV/BESS is virtually impossible to destroy.Furthermore, the investment is incredibly bulky, and the up-front costs are huge, which many countries' finances cannot handle. The lead time for an NPP is at least 10 years, and that's assuming you are helped by expert builders from Russia/China/Korea.
>>62016983Oil and gas relies on a few critical pieces of infrastructure that are easy to destroy and hard to repair, such as refineries and compressor stationsAlso, a greater share of EV/PV would protect you from hydrocarbon price shocks and also free up more hydrocarbons for export
>>62017452Implying battery factories can't be bombed
>>62017660Batteries last for years. Flow batteries can last for decades
>>62016894show me the pv ev war vehicle, faggot
>>62018068The fuel needs of the military are a tiny fraction of the needs of the civilian economy
>>62017436No retard, you don't make PVs and especially the batteries fast enough for them to be viable. I should know I work on the grid, storage is no where close where it needs to be. China is better at these yet they still make nuclear and fossil fuel plants because those can run 247 with no batteries. Everyone can ignore me but I'll be laughing all the way to the bank because there is no fucking alternative if America is to continue as a country. PVs have been a fucking nightmare to deal with, batteries are a percentage of what's needed and you have to deal with huge amounts of conditioning IE capacitors with diminishing returns because none of that generation is rotational and thus all heavy industrial loads completely fuck usable power, voltage and current get out of phase. An actual feasible solution is gas or coal for as long as it takes to spool up nuclear, then no batteries, no blackouts at peak load or need for 10k capacitors. "Green" energy had its chance, it got us here. And generation isn't even top 3 for security concerns, go back to your make work job.
>>62018068Battery power with on board gas generators are in many heavy cat equipment and are quite liked. But you're just getting maximum efficiency out of gas without next gen batteries. This is the future of efficiency if it happens for both war and private sector. Diesel remains king for its longevity but dod is dead set on using it's hot af jet fuel in everything.
