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They're going to rugpull the entire US economy
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I think they can keep the plates spinning for another decade, maybe two.
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>$64 trillion baked in
Fucking hell
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eh I wouldn't worry about it
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>>62020044
the us always has her military to back her debt.
just don't think about how utterly incapable of winning wars evem against the most backwards of enemies they are.
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>>62020044
And why is that my problem?
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>>62020044
>64 trillion
>that's 25 trillion in 10 years
Holy shit the USA is just going to go "lol I'm not paying for that shit" one of these days and crash the global economy harder than the Bronze Age Collapse.
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>>62020044
Those are some rookie numbers.
Japan's debt to GDP ratio is 237%. Us is only at 128%
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>>62020090
this, everyone knows its a ponzi but it'll drag on
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>>62020581
Because what's the alternative?
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Countries without net debt are already setting population caps kek
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>>62020361
>the us always has her military
Not when Gen Alpha doesn't want to die for Isreal and hyperinflation is just around the corner.
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>>62020436
>the USA is just going to go "lol I'm not paying for that shit" one of these days and crash the global economy
guess which banks and pension funds are the most exposed to US bonds
it's like you guys don't have access to the internet sometimes, but somehow found a way to broadcast your retarded post into here

it's amazing how you were able to get past the captcha
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>>62020361

>her military

You mean the sheboons mutinying and clogging toilets and setting shit on fire?
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>>62020044
Stop being a bitch and make the debt ceiling at 50 gazillion. Problem solved, you are welcome.
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>>62020044
If Powell would LOWER THE FUCKING RATES we could refinance and be done with it
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>>62020044
Literally not my problem, you took out the debt, not me.
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>>62020044
>no inflection point
>linear scale
They will, but this train still has tracks
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>>62020044
Debt is good though
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>>62021695
They're making it your problem via inflation (an invisible tax via purchasing power destruction). All of this could have been avoided if past Americans didn't let rootless private banker jews gain control over currency issuance (the FED ponzi) and wean everyone off of precious metals for a century. It all comes down eventually though, the world doesn't want America's jew-printed debt notes anymore. You'd best start believing in controlled demolitions - you're in one.
>>62023427
Debt is Slavery, so for some, yes it's good, for your goyim ass though? Very bad.
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>>62020044
what's the point of saying
>for the first time in history
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it only goes up so the latest number will always be the first in history
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>>62020044
Please forgive my financial ignorance, what's the breaking point? Where does everything go sideways?
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>>62020361
The US government and ADL are doing overtime trying to shut down the "won't die for Israel" narrative.
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>>62024879
why are arabs and antisemites literally so obsessed with israel? is it like some sort of inferiority complex? why do you simp for sandnigger muzzies against innocent white women?
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>>62024312
when the quality of life for the peasants drops so much that they chimp out
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>>62024312
Just like the fall of the Roman Empire, there isn't really one point it stopped existing, at least nominally. The USD will just keep losing value until it stops being attractive to migrate to the US since their absolute salaries will be low compared to the rest of the world. Eventually they will lose their leading edge on knowledge and technology. At one point, we will see a brain drain OUT of the US for the first time. They will be so poor that they won't be able to afford importing stuff they need for their military. We can already see how dependant they are on imports for computer chips. They will turn into some sort of a big Brazil and will finally split into two to separate countries again, this time permanently. The liberal one will eventually collapse and balkanize, while the conservative one will hang on and slowly die out centuries later.
I doubt these will happen before 2100, and for that reason I still invest in the US stock market. There's a lot of money to siphon out of that place just yet.
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>>62020090
There are 10 trillion in unfunded pension liabilities because of BOOMERS LOL coming due every year.

It's either oyu kill your parents or they jack taxes u to 50% (not on elon) to pay for your parents to keep partying until they have dementia and need a 24/7 nurse.
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>>62024927
It's almost like aipac bribes all our politicians and makes them go kiss a wall and sell the usa out to kikes or something...

The epstein hasnt got much longer left. People know what kikes think of goyims now.
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>>62025155
bribes are illegal tho
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>>62025425
lol, lmao
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>>62021448
>groypers infiltrating institutions
>white military forming separate militias
>right as the republic reached the oligarchy stage
the history books that cover the rest of our lives will not be boring, at least
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>>62025431
literally you will bitch and moan about muh aipac bribing politicians
1) bribes are illegal, so just call the cops on them if thats what they are doing
2) elect politicians who wont take bribes
israel is just that badass that all americans love it, like its an oasis surrounded by these dark ppl
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>>62025479
Bribes aren't illegal dumbass, what do you think lobbying is. That's why US has very low levels of political corruption, because corruption was made legal, it's just legal to take bribes in US
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>>62025491
retard. lobbying isnt bribing. just admit you hate israel lol
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>>62025058
Same parents who had me circumcised
Same parents who either/or
>reeeeee about ice and the poor little browns
>xtians who support Israel and zognald

There might not even be a civilization when it's all said and done. Civilization and all modern fiat will die with the boomers.
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>>62020044
this has been said for 50 years dude. nothing will happen.
>2030
>omg us debt is 549 trillion it's gonna collapse any second now!!!
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OH MY GOD, THE US DEBT IS INCREASING, THIS IS UNHEARD OF
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>>62020361
>her
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>entire economy is based on debt
>90% of debt is owed to the US
if you are worried about the debt you are fucking retarded
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>>62020555
Not a comforting comparison for several well-known reasons.

90% of Japanese government debt is held domestically — by Japanese banks, insurance companies, pension funds, and the Bank of Japan itself. This means Japan is essentially borrowing from itself, so there's no foreign creditor pressure, no currency flight risk, and little chance of a sudden foreign selloff. US debt by contrast has significant foreign ownership (China, Japan, and others hold large portions), making it more vulnerable to geopolitical pressure.

The BOJ owns an extraordinary share of Japanese government bonds through decades of quantitative easing. A government effectively owing money to its own central bank is categorically different from owing it to external creditors.

Japan is the world's largest net creditor — it owns more foreign assets than foreigners own Japanese assets. This means the gross debt figure is offset by enormous foreign holdings.
The US by contrast is the world's largest net debtor nation.

Also, Japanese government debt is held at very low interest rates. But the US is moving at an accelerating pace towards the point where the interest on the debt alone exceeds all revenue.

And Japanese households have traditionally maintained very high savings rates, providing a large domestic pool of capital to absorb government debt. In the USA, on the other hand, the people are up to their eyeballs in their own personal debt and are defaulting at an accelerating pace.

So the USA is actually far more fucked by its debt than Japan.
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>>62025539
Great innit?

My mom was somehow simultaneously a feminist AND a religious christian in highschool so she had double the reasons to cockblock me in every way possible. Missed out on teen pussy because of that psycho.
>BUT WHY ARE YOU SO MENA TO ME NOW SON
SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH, DON'T CALL ME WHEN I'M DRIVING HOME FROM WORK AT 10 PM BECAUSE I HAVE 3 JOBS
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>>62025647
>>62025861
The US won't collapse, it will jack up taxes on (You) and everyone younger to get back their money, because hte debt was taken out against the future generations.
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>>62020044
this is good
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>>62020044
A debt crisis doesn't necessarily mean the economy goes kaput. They can just inflate the debt away if need be. If the US Gov buys assets like Gold for $5000 and then decides that they are going back to a gold standard where Gold = $10,000 suddenly they have doubled their money, but really they just made the currency worth half as much. This helps with debt though because the debts are still at face value so they can just sell the gold back at the new prices and pay the debts.

Now imagine instead of making it that obvious they buy a bunch of gold at $5000 and then over the course of some years they allow it to rise to $50k. That is 10x and doesn't technically seem like a devaluation occurred, but the assets owned by the government suddenly exceed their liabilities so the government is solvent again.

Even if they don't plan on doing this if the government needs to pay for something really bad they can just print so this might end up happening without any plan for it to happen. Even technically speaking all the scrap steel in the navy might eventually be an asset worth more than all the debt used to pay for it if a commodities go up in price sufficiently.

The problem is that a commodity boom is terrible for the rest of the economy because everyone who needs anything needs to pay the high commodity prices
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>>62024927
g8 b8 m8
the brainwashing no longer works lmao
death to israel
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let's just forgive all debts and move on
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>>62020044
Why did the Supreme Court do this?
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>>62020044
See you bros at the rations line
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>>62025047
US salaries are good though? I mean the whole reason people get paid more here versus some place like Japan is primarily due to inflation.
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>>62020090
Everybody stopped breeding. All industrial and post industrial societies all over the world stopped breeding. There is going to be a giga crash in anything requiring young people in the next 40 years. It likely won't get too bad until the Boomers die off in the 2040's. Life is going to get old and slow for a lot of people all at the same time.
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>>62025522
Kvetching kike is kvetching
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>>62027547
Keep inflating and devaluing the USD against other currencies and you'll see how those 6 figure salaries become comparable to minimum wage in other developed countries.
>>62025647
>90% of the debt is owed to Americans
>one day, the government is just no longer capable to pay the tumorous interest anymore
That's not the own you think you had, anon. There's no free lunches in economics. One day, someone will have to pay the bill.
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>>62028408
why do you love muslims so much?
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>>62020044
It's fine. will just print more money. we can and will print our way out of this scenario
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>>62020044
who’s they?
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>>62029911
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>>62028951
>btfo repeatedly
>*changes argument*
Sad!
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>>62029911
jews
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>>62025861
>90% of Japanese government debt is held domestically
Chat estimated that US debt is 75-80% domestically held.. So it isn't that different from the situation in Japan.
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>>62027392
>They can just inflate the debt away if need be.
The issue is that most of that debt is held by Americans, you "inflate the debt away", that's someone's pension you just made disappear.
There are no accounting gimmick or brutal way out of it..
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Money is a wholly man-made concept. It doesn't matter.
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>>62031383
yeah, we invented money because a barter economy has some real issues i.e. coincidents of mutual wants.
so unless we want to go back to a barter economy, then we need money and it does matter.
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>>62024312

When interest on the debt exceeds all revenue. Probably sooner than you think.

Assumptions: Revenue grows 3.5%/yr (10-yr trend). Spending grows 5.5%/yr (recent trend). All debt — existing and new — rolls over or is issued at 4.3% (current blended market rate). Annual deficit added to debt each year. Starting debt: $36T (FY2024).

Under these assumptions, the model projects interest payments exceed all federal revenue around 2042 — roughly 16 years from now.
A few things worth noting about what the model shows:
The compounding trap. The reason it happens so fast is self-reinforcing: each year's deficit gets added to the debt, which generates more interest, which widens the deficit further, which adds more debt. It's a debt spiral — the same dynamic that destroys household finances, just at sovereign scale.
The crossover is actually worse than it looks. When interest alone exceeds all revenue, the government would still need to fund Social Security, Medicare, defense, and everything else — meaning it would have to borrow 100% of non-interest spending plus interest it can't cover. At that point the only options are default, hyperinflationary money printing, or a catastrophic fiscal restructuring.
The model is arguably optimistic in one respect — it assumes the interest rate stays at 4.3%. In reality, as debt spirals and creditors lose confidence, rates typically rise, accelerating the timeline.
What could change the trajectory:
• A sustained primary surplus (spending cuts + revenue increases) — politically very difficult
• Strong GDP and revenue growth outpacing spending
• A sharp drop in interest rates (the Japan scenario)
• Debt restructuring or default
The CBO's own projections, while less aggressive in their assumptions, tell a similar directional story — just stretched out slightly further. None of the serious fiscal analysts dispute the direction, only the timeline.
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>>62024312
>what's the breaking point?
there isn't one
that's the funny part
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>>62025522
uh oh
kvetchy maldy melty
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>>62020123
The funny thing is that at every time point every official estimate for what the debt will be in 10, 20 years has basically always grossly underestimated it.
>>62020555
The question is when will Japan collapse? Because when it does everyone else is fucked. Either the shockwaves spin out of control as yields spiral out of control on remaining debt markets or at the least it sets the bar for how far the debt nonsense can go. Either way that imposes a timebomb here.

>>62020374
If the dollar collapses shits going to get bad in a lot of ways.

Even if YOU have land and a pile of gold, the collapse of the dollar will make your life stupidly hard. Once the welfare money dries up you're going to have roving packs of minorities you're going to have to shoot up, with no one to help. I know you're excited to do that but still that's a lot more shit to handle.
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>>62020044
confirmed: it's over
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>>62025522
Jew alert! Jew alert! OUUUUUUOOOOOAAAAA OOOOOOUUU! Jew alert! Jew alert!
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how can I profit from this?
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>>62020044
We’ll just roll it forward
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>>62025058
>It's either oyu kill your parents

Kek, what do you the jab was? And you Cannot tell a boomer the jab wasnt the best thing that ever happened to humanity. So fine, fuck it, let that same stubbornness thats made the entire planet a misery with them be their downfall.
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>>62028397
Already like this in my area, houses stay there doing nothing unremodeled for months / years / sometimes never.
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>>62024312
When gibs are no longer payable.
Everyone kind of tiptoes around this but when the free money stops flowing from the government boomers can no longer retire and welfare monkeys can no longer afford food or housing, at that point it's an immediate crash of 50%+ in the economy that lasts for decades (these people are never finding a job, lmao)
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>>62020090
they will do another vax culling to flush out the next cohort of social security beneficiaries.



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