i graduated from Montana State University, the degree is useless, i remember back in 2012 people told me ill be swimming in money, all the jobs dont pay well at all, i should just run away somewhere but every retard on tiktok is giving away the idea of moving out of the usa, now every cheap country is getting more expensive and full of indians. uni aint worth it if it isnt a paid scholarship for an ivy league.
>>62070125Commas aren't the same thing as a period
>>62070125>every retard on tiktok is giving away the idea of moving out of the usa, now every cheap country is getting more expensive and full of indians.I'm getting annoyed at this too. It's at the point that I'm hoping for a recession just so the travel and expat conversation dies down.
>>62070153im scared that people might discover montenegro, its a nice place to keep hidden, i dont want the fat indian expats to show up.
>>62070125>the degree is useless,what is your degree?
STEM is still valuable but don't fall for the comp sci meme, many such cases.
>>62070165Lol Balkans don't speak english natively which already filters out most jeets fortunately
>>62070165The only thing that stops them from shitting up a country is if the country already has problems. We need a world crisis to force people back into modesty and to return swathes of the world back to developing status. The longer things go on as they are, the worse every country will get.
>>62070198Mechanical Engineering, :(>>62070209im just gonna move there and farm airdrops or something.
>>62070237how are you having trouble as a mechanical engineer? just cast a wide net and be prepared to move. there are definitely jobs out there for you.
>>62070125you could become a fly fishing guide and then relocate to somewhere exotic that rich boomers wana fish at like argentina or japan and oversell the whole Montana origin story
>>62070202>>62070244the money is no longer worth it, a friend makes more money from fortnite, i swear engineering was a mistake.
>>62070125move to Senegal then. its still cheap.
>>62070237>Mechanical EngineeringLIt's an awful industry>>62070244Every role is filled with some crusty ass dinosaur and the pay is shit compared to every other type of engineering. You're also deprioritized compared to everyone else despite the fact your shit is the biggest and most cumbersome. All anybody ever says is>do we need that?>can we do it cheaper?>what if we just didn't do that?Because they all think they know everything about your shit since a layman can look at it in a way they can't with a wiring loom or a server.That's if you're lucky enough to be making new shit too. Trying to expand or update some fossilized garbage which should have be scrapped and written off 30 years ago is even worse.
>>62070273>>62070300is there any temp contracting jobs or international work?
>>62070165Where in Montenegro do you live? It’s nice here but I feel like someone is trying to scam me every day. And everything is broken
>>62070262not a bad idea, >>62070277checked, but be serious, i dont want to be around black people, >>62070300i only picked it cuz it was a "high earning" degree. shouldve become a pilot or something, >>62070346you competing with ive league grads, did you ever wonder why people try to get a masters? cuz they have to stack up qualifications, its useless, better off starting a youtube channel or onlyfans. >>62070349i still live in the USA, visited that place, the women are pretty and skinny, thats what matters to me, very clean too.
>>62070346>is there any temp contracting jobsThat's literally all there is.
>>62070141And Reddit ain’t the same mufuggin thang as 4chan my nigger
>>62070406True 4channers use proper grammar. It's clear you are from another site.
>>62070237Job market is tough but you shouldn’t have a hard time finding a job as an ME. I agree that pay is actually not that great anymore, but what’s preventing you to moving into a tech sales role? I’m making triple what the typical ME my age while doing none of the work. No offense with this question but: are you out of shape or autistic? If so you’ll never be in sales, but if you’re well put together you’re looking at a minimum of 200k+ total comp easy.
>>62070528im in good shape, and not autistic, 200k+, man cmon stop lying.
>>62070237anon you could have just asked a mech e grad about job prospects or looked at jobs while you were in school.....I remember back in 2017 mech e grads were telling me the jobs were shit.
>>62070457Maybe they do maybe they don’t The point is no one gives a fuck
>>62070554Uh sales engineering jobs easily pass 200k, but entry level you might start just around 200k total comp if you hit quota. I graduated in 2017 with my BSME and I make mid 200s in a normal year and I push 300 in a good year. The interview process is really a personality match, they either like your vibe or they think you’re a loser. After a few interviews you should find a company that likes you, again, unless you’re autistic or ugly. I’m not a handsome guy by any means but I’m /fit/ and clean looking for reference.
>>62070910i interviewed for one of these once everyone else was some nepo rich chad guy from ivy leagues but i guess i scored high on the iq test then they realized i was a chudlast interview quote:>you're not giving me salesman vibesthen i told them about how my parent did sales and they laughed at me
>>62070812i graduated 2016, i remember people complaining trump is gona fuck up the job market back then,>>62070910im good looking and fit, ill look into it, im just tired of working with browns, even the arabs, lazy fucks>>62070923"salesman vibes" a clip on tie and gay smile. fuck them fags. im good in interviews, but the end of the day the money is not worth it, but 200k. ill have to take a look at it. better than sportsbetting every day
>>62070923>everyone else was some nepo rich chad guy from ivy leagues Yeah that’s generally true, that’s why you have to LARP to be in sales. I grew up dirt fucking poor and graduated from a random state school, but I was able to convince a company that I’m some extroverted rich guy just like them. You def don’t want to come off high IQ because sales people hate smart people. Once you’re hired on, you’re good since you’ll have your own account(s) to deal with and, because you’re not a typical sales retard, you’ll easily hit quota and have job security. At my current job they took me out for drinks to meet me once I got hired on and they never invited me out ever again (I told them I don’t drink and I stayed quiet the whole time when in reality I do drink on occasion; I just hate the rich chad/stacy types and didn’t want to pretend I liked them).
>>62070244>how are you having trouble as a mechanical engineer?>median starting pay 1980: $50k USD>median starting pay 2026: $50k USD>annual number of ME graduates in the US: 30k/yr>new entry level ME jobs in the US: 3k/yrThis is before accounting for H1B abuse and every jeet and their mother landing jobs as MEs because they work for pennies on the dollar.t. BSME + MSME + PEI wanted to beleive in the dream but the dream is dead and brown.