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How will this actually affect the job market?
Will software engineers just become AI engineers?
Agents are extremely useful, and vibecoding can accomplish a lot, but anyone who's done it can see it's not a simple as prompting a chatbot.
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software was never a growth motor. I have never paid for software since the clinton era. The only software I ever spent money on was diablo 2, and I still regret that purchase as I could have downloaded as easy as everything else.

Code is not growth, code can be copy pasted, ever debt that was taken with assumption on growth by code is uncovered and a loss, the end
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>>62090360
Yep, the obvious transition will be to robotics/drones, and software that interfaces with the real world via machine learning
I work at a robotics company and theyll hire new graduate engineers who dont even know how to code and just teach them how to prompt and review data and it works
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>>62090332
>ditch digging isn't precious anymore now that steam shovels exist
>steam shovels are extremely useful, and they can accomplish a lot, but anyone who's done it can see it's not a simple as steering a steam train
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>>62090332
>it's not a simple as prompting a chatbot.
yeah you also have to copypaste the terminal output when the code breaks, wow so hard
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Unironically would be amazing for future software engineers, no one would want to study programming, and current undergrads would fuck up their education by not doing their work. if you've actually made performant software you know well that vibecoding only generates horrible shovelware and boilerplate code.
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>>62090375
Robotics is not a growth motor either. Same goes for AI. Those are production side patches, growth doesn't exist if the demand side is generally deflationary
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>>62090375
>vibecodes critical software
>robots decide it is a good idea to commit an out of scope action thanks to LLM hallucination.
>company gets sued out of oblivion

Tell me which company is doing that to avoid any of their products.
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>>62090444
Yeah I knew that argument was retarded when even I could beat it
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>>62090360
>>62090926
>multi billion to trillion dollar industries are nothing
Your opinions are neither needed nor wanted, Boomer.

Discarded.
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>>62090360
you pay for software everytime you make an order, retard, everytime you withdraw money from the bank, any digital fees you pay for ordering anything using your mobile phone or computer are remitted to pay for software, fucking low iq retards like you shouldn't give opinions on things they have no knowledge of
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>>62091292
>Muah socialized risks and costs expressed in monies
Stupid socialist. Those are virtual numbers, liabilities for the most part that in the case of Saas never resulted in a positive cashflow. Yes, some scammers pocketed trillions in risk capital and managed to scam retards, banks, into providing the risk liquidity, while banks socialized risks and costs. Same goes for robotics, just risk capital scammers scam from retards.

Its pretty straight forward, you cannot solve fundamental demand side deflation on the production side. The retards are going to keep bleeding capital and likely keep trying in typical socialist fashion to socialize risks and costs with unbelievable non promisable guarantees and the bleed continues while the incentive to defect increases
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>>62091537
The last time I ordered something was in 2011. A physical book from Amazon. That was the last time I paid for a book btw.
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>>62092083
What causes >people to be like this?
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>>62090332
Hardware and software will always be precious you imbecile. IT doesn't work by magic.
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>>62092257
>>>/s/harty you pedophile shizophrenic retard
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>>62090360
>I have never paid for software since the clinton era
So you never bought a car, dishwasher, fridge, phone, washing machine, boiler, nothing since the Clinton era?
Software extends far beyond what you typically associate with code. Embedded systems are ubiquitous these days and you are paying for them one way or another.



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