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Should EU countries have a power to strongly dissuade other member states from committing economical sudoku? The example is Germany -- decided to shut down its nuke plants during the Russia energy crisis. Should other EU members be able to call for an intervention to get such a self-destructive crackhead back on track?

Germany economical failures thread.
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>>62103558
>puccian propaganda
>"gice germany destroys itself blyat"
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>>62103567
You hohols are so insufferable its incredible.
>>62103558
No EU should not get more powers, they should get less.
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>>62103567
Also wtf is propaganda? That we did shut down our power plants? That we are on the way down with incredible quick increasing costs for boomer pensions, migrants, incredible slow and incabable bureaucrazy and foreign countries.....like ukraine.
And no this is not some internet doomer thing, germany is economically unironically done and it will show hard this decade.
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>>62103569
Projecting much, Ivan?
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>>62103573
>boohoohoo I am a sad faggot
Fuck the gimmicky car industry. BMW is the only brabd, that adopted properly. And fuck nuclear. Were going to have off-grid electricity and complete independence from turd world resources like the chinese.
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taxes, social welfare state, islam, green ideological politics, de-industrialization, failing pension system

these are the things that instantly come to my mind as a german when I think about my country. its NOT culture, mechanical engineering, prosperity, made in germany and whatever we used to be known for.
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>>62103630
Shit every other first world country has. /pol/niggers should get the rope. Leave my board.
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>>62103632
these are not typical american problems, they are mostly european ones.
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>>62103615
The Chinese specifically started investing in building green energy parts because they knew that zealous retards like you were going to buy them. Who do you think builds your solar panels and windmill blades? You've willingly subjected yourself to yet another dependency on a foreign nation, and the Chinese are thrilled that they can take you for every Euro you have.
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>>62103652
Moron, the chinese build giant solar parks to reduce their dependence from russian shit. They try to reduce their dependence on resources they do not control directly. Its valled deriscung and the EU dies that as well. Go back to your idiotic liberal-cohenservative blogs.
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>>62103653
>muh reddit
Rentfree /pol/nigger.
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>>62103653
/pol/niggers be like
>china is a based fascist state
But in the same time
>Faggot gypsy shitholes like Hungayry should have the right to cockblock Germany
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>>62103654
The Chinese build solar parks, and they build coal plants, and they import oil and LNG because they're constantly trying to expand their manufacturing. They recently discovered oil out in that desert that they have, and were thrilled because it meant even more factories. Meanwhile Europe is intentionally stopping all domestic production of any energy that isn't green, while still having a society that runs on fossil fuels. It's just that instead of producing energy themselves, they import it. Europe's obsession with green energy is insane, and the rest of the world has rejected their precepts and continued to build and expand.
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>>62103654
>>62103656
>>62103660
damn. this zesty neggro so angry he had to post three times in a row.
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>>62103656
You need to go back.
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>>62103662
Coal is temporary and germans do that as well, because the GDRs energy policy wasnt already retarded enough. De-riscing energy infrastructure and adding redundancy is the best thing to happen. I dont give a fuck that you think environment activists are funny, boomer.
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>>62103664
Are you just a blackpilled /pol/nigger, MIGA subhuman or really an obsessed zigger retard that thinks only ukraine has problems with your federation of alcoholics?
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>>62103674
>reee everyone is /pol/
>proceeds to spam /k/ narratives and samefags half the thread
Shouldn't you be dying for Israel, /k/tard
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>>62103704
>muh /k/
Just read anything but /pol/slop, you moron. Its literally that easy to ask AI why germany does things but your retarded MIGAnigger drill baby drill talkingpoints.
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>10 post by this Id in a thread with 20 posts
lowest lowlife or glownigger
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>>62103613
>everybody i dont like is russian
mental illness
>>62103615
Kanacke oder wat?
>>62103615
>off-grid electricity
Dunkelflaute noch nie gehört? Viel Glück bei Windstille und keiner Sonne.
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>>62103716
>muh Dunkelflaute
Dafür ist der Wasserstoffausbau. Nutz KI, du kompletter Vollidiot.
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>>62103715
>defending your country is "glowniggardry"
Ok MIGAtard. Arent there a few circumsized cocks to suck for you?
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>>62103615
How does shutting down nuclear help with independence from the turd world? Germanistan just became MORE dependent on russia you retarded Saupreiß
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>>62103740
Its expensive, inflexible and the Endlagerung is still an unsolved issue. 40% of the fission material came from russia either. Solar power, sun to fuel and hydrogen are Hitlerite technologies. Just kill yourself.
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spineless whining is still the largest german export it see
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>>62103558
>elect anti nuke open border idiots
>country is literally destroyed
hopefully voters choose correctly soon
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>>62103749
france is 70% nuclear and has lower electricity prices and carbon emissions per capita.
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>>62103779
Parasites will literally move elsewhere, if we make our energy infrastructure kriegstauglich, off-grid and redundant, because that costs a shit ton of money, especially opportunity costs are high as you can see in this thread full of complainers.
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>>62103737
>>62103715
wrong board faggots
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>>62103749
I asked how does it help with independence from the turd world, you gave me a bunch of unrelated buzzwords.
>prussian
>talking about the austrian man Hitler
I hope russia nukes everything north of the Donau
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>>62103787
Its not about carbon emissions, people who still use these 2010 talkingpoints are full of shit (yeah our puppet politicians too).
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>>62103797
Too bad I am living south of the Danube, moron. Look retard, diversifying your energy sector is as good as diversifying your assets.
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>>62103799
that chart is of prices bro

the claim "nuclear is expensive"
the reality "power is cheaper in 70% nuclear france"
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>>62103795
>Parasites will literally move elsewhere
your brain literally may not work bro

they have been coming for decades and that wont stop until the standard of living is lower than where they are coming from.
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>>62103803
shutting down nuclear power did not diversify your energy sector. it did the opposite.
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>>62103804
Germany had three remaining reactors post 2022. Were talking about stuff we have, not stuff we wish wed have. Also France has a lower population density and huge backwater land for guerilla conflict. Germany literally nukes its own core population just so some boomers can have cheap shit. Not gonna happen.
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>>62103809
>let me tell you about your country
Lion share of foreigners here are EU migrants, its not my fault and not Ursulas fault that females do not breed on an overpopulated wealthy continent.
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>>62103733
>mein quelle ist ki daher weiß ich das das funktioniert
Tut es nicht. Wasserstoff ist nicht für das Stromnetz. Das Stromnetz würde jeden Abend zusammenbrechen du absoluter Dimwit. Aber das wäre gut dann würden die Leute mal aufgerührt.
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>>62103823
>Lion share of foreigners here are EU migrants
Why do you lie? ´
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>>62103946
Ich arbeite in der Branche, Wasserstoff/Biogas ist buchstäblich für die Spitzenüberbrückung. Halt einfach deine dumme Fresse.
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>>62103952
Sorry Ghetto dweller. Obviously I speak from my middle class neighbourhood.
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>>62103960
OH YES OF COURSE ITS ALWAYS THE SAME WITH YOU SCUM
>diversity but not for me haha
Good neighborhood is a codeword for white neighborhood.
Guys like you are the worst
>>62103958
>Ich arbeite in der Branche,
No you dont
>Wasserstoff/Biogas ist buchstäblich für die Spitzenüberbrückung.
Spitzenüberbrückung ja genau SPITZENüberbrückung. There you see you just got this from AI and dont know shit about it. Its only good to smooth it over the day. Its never enough to save enough for a whole week of cloudy windless weather. And i dont want to start about winter. Its mostly for cars and there its a good idea. Not for the power system.
Holy retard
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>>62103958
Btw im not saying it cant work with 2040 technology. But it doesnt work with 2026 technology. No way to save enough gas.
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>>62103969
>I am a poorfag pleb
Go back to pol then you fucking tourist.

>hydrogen I-is not for the grid
You goalpost moving retard. It is for the grid, the Bundesregierung advances its capabilities to decentraly produce electrical energy via highly mobile gas engines.
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>>62103974
It already is working, 2030 data centers are going to rely on hydrogen-ready technology. Moron.
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>>62103558
Merkel knew that a big war is coming and that nuclear facilities will be primary targets once all red lines have been crossed. She then used the Fukushima happening asa scapegoat to ban nuclear power plants.
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>>62103996
Retarded cope.
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>>62103558
Nuclear power makes sense when there's high sustained demand.
Germany shares a border with 9 other countries. There's always the possibility of buying / selling electricity to balance the grid. Fluctuating renewables also make nuclear less attractive.
Then there's specialization going on inside the EU and France happens to make the nukes and the nuclear stuff. This way Germany can host the largest conventional military without becoming too threatening to its neighbors.
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>>62104077
This guy gets it. Heil EVROPA.
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>>62103799
Of course it is, but not for the same reasons, today its just about racking in taxes through carbon tax, none cares about actual carbon emissions
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>>62103558
The EU was designed by the Americans to bleed Europe dry.
Thanks to the EU regulators, they have no industry of note, no digital platforms of note, and they now rely on American liquified natural gas.
Every EU politician should be placed in front of a firing sqaud.
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>t
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>>62103984
>I only care about me fuck the others
Least egotistical liberal
>did not reply how it can work in winter
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>>62103558
>we need to transition to clean energy
>no not THAT kind of clean energy, that one is bad because of some shit that happened 40 years ago in the soviet era
I will never understand leftoids
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>>62103988
Nothing is working, we have absurd prices to import power and still need coal.
>>62103984
>>62104083
>we need to import browns (but pleeeeeeassse not where i live)
>but hail evrope
glowing hard
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>>62104859
>I am a loser that larps having empathy
Fuck off back to /pol/. This board is about business, not your turkish neighbour. Hydrogen is stored in summer, what the fuck is your problem, polgroid?
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>>62104904
>we have to import its sooo expensive help me I am a faggut
Read again, you fucking faggot. Europe is a balance act between our neighbours, not your perfect pig sty with enough cheap cummies.
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>>62103558
It was america's plan all along. Green parties are CIA controlled. So is the medias, Merkel, and most politics in germany.
Sabotaging the nord stream 2 was a way for america to increase germany's production costs.
Higher production costs means less competitive.
Less competitive means america cans take over germany's markets.
America wants to cannibalize european markets. And also wants to absolutely prevent any Berlin-Moscow axis (alliance).
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>>62106083
Neighbors like austria and the ones balancing us and are mad as fuck. You are just iltra retarded because you can.
>still defends brown immigration
>BUT NOT TO ME PLEASE
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>>62106629
Not responsible for your well being. Fuck off, faggot. Cheap cummies is short term. EVROPA is for eternity.
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>>62106713
>EVROPA is for eternity.
Its literally beeing replaced as we speak
The people define Europe not the landmass
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>>62106713
>Not responsible for your well being
But you feel responsible for ukraine well beeing? Typical liberal asshole.
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Oh look it's the weekly muh Germany is doomed thread again with Ivan and Sergay dropping their "truth bombs" regardless of how little their talking points depict the reality.
>62106615
It really shows also.
>comes up with "politicians are controlled by other countries"
>doesn't mention Russia and China are proven to place people in the AfD

You Russians forcing right-wing views can fuck off back to facebook. Gerhardt and Hildegard will gobble up your shitty lies and fabrications there.
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>>62107113
>>62107123
You mouthbreathing retard, the underclass being replaced especially in germany and france has been ethnically diverse since hundred years, in the case of france 150 years. Ruhrpottpolacken arent Vikings.
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>>62103558
Well, giving "Green" politicians any power will do that to your country. Socio-Environmentalism is a suicide cult.
Publicly they declare good sounding goals, but in the back-end they'll do everything destroying your country.
That should be the lesson to take home from early 21st century Germany: No to Green. (Regardless of the associated party.)
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>>62107364
>the underclass being replaced especially in germany and france has been ethnically diverse since hundred years
>in the case of france 150 years. Ruhrpottpolacken arent Vikings.
Dude, I was in elementary back in the 90s. We had like 1-in-10 pupils that had trouble with the German language at the start of the first year. They took an extra preparation year to achieve the bare minimum of language skills required to start the first year ("school kindergarten").
These days it's more like 1-in-10 pupils that are not troubled. And it's clearly related to the origin of their parents. It's absolutely impossible to give all of them that extra year.
So the "democratic" powers that must not be questioned have deemed, that the testing standards had to be lowered. Resulting in a total education apocalypse at public schools.
Fucking 40% of 8th graders in Berlin are analphabets ffs. (By the way: How the fuck is "analphabet(s)" not in the "English (United States)"-Mozilla dictionary?)
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>>62107201
>Russia and China are proven to place people in the AfD
>You Russians forcing right-wing views
Yeah man these evil evil right wingers, damn, not as if all other parties are made of usa placed people
>>62107364
>names one example that doesnt even apply
Poles and germans are the same ethnicity
>import nonwhites BUT PLEASE NOT TO ME
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>>62107564
Welcome to the brave new world. What am I suppossed to do? Endlessly kvetch on an incel imageboard like you? Cheering on the golden horde that uses donkeys in the fourth year of war? Damned, get a grip on reality. Reading is for dorks.

I support capitalism, fascism and genocide of losers.
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>>62107601
>I support capitalism, fascism and genocide of losers.
You support ukraine and mass migration (but not to you) and nothing else.
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>>62107601
Also you did not reply to >>62107579
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>>62103558
>sudoku
Should EU countries be able to stop others from playing a fill-in-the-numbers game? WTH?
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>>62108940
Not wasting my time with your petty bourgeois bullshit about
>what about da turkish bulls in my cunt
>what about corruption in ukraine
>what about my fuel guzzlers
Go fuck yourself.
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>>62109763
Why do you care about Ukraine but not about your neighbor?



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