will america be the only country to survive the economic collapse?
>>62116818Where is China on that list? everyone says they're the best!
>>62116818Nice try jew, Avg wage in the United States is weighted to the 1%. Use HDI
>>62116818>averagelel
>>62116818Is this a venezuelan joke? A zimbabwean? Wenigger... oh its a German one then?
>>62116818>US>UKlol and holy shit poor Japan
>>62116818Is that after taxes?
>>62116818The difference is negated by americans needing to pay for all the stuff it’s competitioners get for free.
>>62116818how can i profit from this though?
>>62116818something's not right about thisi understand the graph is true but i feel like america is the one getting fucked over in this situation, somehowalso 1pbtid twitter spam pol thread
>>62116818Now show me the same chart for median wages.
>>62116943In most 1st world countries healthcare and education are free. Higher wages don't matter.
>>62116818Yeah now account for housing and food and almost everything being 2x what they should beSure, buying a computer part you buy once every 6 years will basically be the same price everywhere on the planet. Woohooo.
>>62116954but that's all paid for by taxes, which are collected from people's income (in one way or another)so that's not a real explanation
>>62116818they need it
>>62116818What's this even? Is this the net take home?Can we instead look at what employers are paying gross?
>>62116818we call them europoors for a reason
>>62116923its not. my health insurance is $25 a paycheck (50 a month)my gas is cheaper, my income taxes are lower, sales tax is lower
>>62116974>prices arent up in other countriesLMAO. electricity is 2x higher in europe.... gas too
>>62116818>chart shows nominal income>USD increasingly worthless as cost of living inflates out of controlreally makes you think
>>62116818Yes. Ignore all the libtards.
>>62117127the euro has declined against the dollar from the 2000s
>>62117122Actually try to use that cheap-shit health insurance, retard. What's your deductible and max out of pocket, in-network and out? Don't answer, you didn't know what you're talking about.
>>62117138is that relevant if we're discussing nominal wages and implicit purchasing power of those nominal wages?
>>62117138Can you even read a chart? It's the same level?
>>62116954Which are paid from taxes on wages. Taxes that are higher on wages that are lower. Also, just have a job in the US and healthcare isn’t more expensive than the effective cost in Europe (meaning higher taxes).
>>62116955>Yeah now account for housing and food and almost everything being 2x what they should beI won’t argue against this, and you are right, but do you think Europe is better in this regard? You think housing in Britain or Germany is cheaper? Especially for equivalent houses?
>>62117069>doesnt understand “average annual wage”>show what employers are paying gross?literally what it is
>>62116818Lmao euro poor faggotsThese are the poor sodomite losers who call Americans dumb. Hahahahahahahahahahahabahahahababba
last year I made tens of thousands in crypto and then the government raped me on taxes. And it was both the state and federal government, even though the state has literally zero to do with the market regulated by the fed, just stealing something that isn't theirs at all. Suddenly I feel like our wages aren't that great.
>>62116824wumaos, oh wumaos! where are they??
>>62116935by going to Japanenjoy a filling meal for $3.20Night out in the city with 3 friends and you eat like fucking pigs, all you can drink/eat for 2 hours ~$70 Taxi through the entire city ~$20-30Going anywhere in Tokyo by train $1.20-1.50Average Business Hotel $60/Night
>>62116948this and top and tail it for good measure, also let's see medical and student debt repayment comparisons
>>62117306>how can I profit?>by spending money on a night out
>>62117319live in Japan, earn Dollars or Euros, it's not that hardI was just explaining it for your fat, disgusting burger brain how much money you'd save by being there instead of your nigger-infested shithole of a non-country
>>62117306it's amazing how much Japan has been destroyed, tokyo used to be one of the most expensive cities on the planet, now people go to them because it's cheap like they are some south east asian country
>>62117336fuck you
Average in my town is 40k (USA!), you have to go to jew york city to get close to these numbers.An acre of land in my rural area might run you 20-40k, so merely .5 to 1 year of work for a singular acre in rural retardville if you save every penny.
>>62117283You being an americam retard who didn’t even read the thread proves how retarded modern americans are.
>>62117336It’s a joke nigger. Lighten up
>>62117363yeah but the same is true in Europe, you leave their cities and their wages go to like 20k
>>62117351>>62117368You replied two times which is still probably less than the number of penises that have entered your poor and extremely gay mouth.
>>62117139Youre paying as a young person for excellent healthcare because youre forced to, but you wont use it. Im not paying for it because thats my choice as a red blooded american patriot
>>62117377>the captcha is fucked up, that proves that i’m not a complete retard!So these are the kind of copes with which you americans stay in bad shape, huh?
>>62116818Does this include or exclude employer-side payroll taxes?
>>62116943It's average, not median. I'm a britbong and when I travelled to the U.S I was shocked by how poor everyone was, I visited L.A and holy shit, I saw poverty that would make south african villagers want to send aid. A tiny fraction of Americans seem to make literally all the money, the rest are earning nothing and spending all of it on their bills.
>>62118510The median individual income for a full time worker with only a high school diploma is over $50,000. It’s over $91,000 for people with college degrees. What’s your next cope?>https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/demo/tables/p60/286/inc_ed.xlsxLA is a spic covered shithole.
>>62116818The income gap today between the US and the rest of the developed world, is almost (not quite there yet) as large as the income gap between Japan in the 90s and the rest of the world.
>>62117122Bullshit. Americans get ripped off on everything.
>>62118548>median income>for a subset of workers who range in age from 25 to their 70sBro, get it together.
>>62117139>let me tell you about your insuranceLOL
>>62118609just use google (American company btw) and look up gas, electricity, income tax rates, VAT vs sales tax, etc.
>>62118626>noooo you can’t use the normal working ages when aggregating dataSo that’s your cope? Neat.
>be united stater>win two times more than other countries>have to pay half your salary for healthcare, insurance, mortgages and caryeah sure you guys are "winning"
>>62117139>Actually try to use that cheap-shit health insurance, retard.Literally the exact same process as any other health insurance. I pay $58.14 a paycheck. I have a $3400 deductible. I don’t go to the doctor because I’m younger and work out and not fat as shit. My company also throws in $1000 to my HSA each year which has been a free $6000 for me. Plus market returns. You can cope all you want but europoors paying high taxes for healthcare that’s not better isn’t a good thing.
>>62116954you mean sub par "free" healthcare for all the immigrants you import! Very 1st world anon!
>>62117291Talk in percentages mutt, I get lashed 30% to 32 % off my yearly income in Negril. I make 1600 dollars monthly in wagies (that is top 5% wagie in Brasil) and about 12000 dollars yearly on market (crypto and regular stocks)Last year they raped me for 9000 dollars in taxes.I bet you made more raw and paid less raw in taxes.I hate having to pay for nigger wellfare
>>62117139Not that anon.But I pay $29 a month for health insurance.That's 0.45% of my monthly NET.My maximum out of pocket is $2,000 a year.The coverage pays for 90% of procedures and medication. Once the deductible is hit everything else is almost free. I already got my $2K this year.So massages are $7 for me Even shitty non union jobs I've had were similar cost.The deductable was just higher Around $5K at a shit entry level job I had.I don't think Europeans realize how much they pay for healthcare.I can actually get a doctor's appointment. meanwhile my Dutch cousins actually had to come to the US for operations. Their insurance had a 3 year wait list.Euros are just super ignorant on what goes on here in the US
>>62116818American works are significantly more productive than eurocucks and thirdworlders. We are on top because we deserve to be here.
>>62118976I'm going to rape you.
>>62116818isn’t it technically the same value since it’s the cost of healthcare and social services bringing the average wage down outside of America? Or is this pretax, grim if so.
>>62116818Opposite. With it's debt, shitty infrastructure and absolute lack of social systems American will suffer most even though on paper some would say it doesn't. If you are not making a million a year, you will suffer.
Also, the USD isn't what it used to be.
>>62116818I thought average income in America was like $35k?
>>62118510why are you going to famously poor areas during travel? methinks you are being disingenuous
>>62119576is this really what europoors think
>>62116818Haha, no. Demographics are destiny. You got Somalians and Haitians up in that bitch now.Barely 50% white, and probably not even.
>>62116818If you remove the top 1000 highest earning people the "average" wage of the other 140 million American workers is like $36k a year. Gross. Before tax.
>>62117363>An acre of land in my rural area might run you 20-40k, so merely .5 to 1 year of work for a singular acreLand in much of Europe is $4000 a hectare (2 acres) or less.$20 to $40k an acre is over priced even in America.
>>62119706Curse America. If Germany won WW2 we would be living in utopia right now.
>>62118976>I make 1600 dollars monthly in wagies (that is top 5% wagie in Brasil)lol
>>62116923nigger health insurance in the uk is 15% (deducted from your paycheck) + 8% over 12,570 + 2% over 50khttps://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-rates-lettersdo you pay that much? no do you fuckontop of 3x sales tax and vastly higher income taxcapital gains is 20% on everything over 3000>>62116954and i have like 60k of student debt which siphons 7% of my paycheckthis shit in europe is only """free""" if you are a niggerit hammers the fuck out of anyone trying to crawl out of the gutter>>62117139try use shitty socialist healthcare too retardunless i literally have a car accident then they don't want anything to do with people under 45an annual check up? does not exist whatsoevermeanwhile my american counterparts have bloodwork and cancer screening annually and if they didn't want that then they could drop to cheaper insurancei can't opt out of my system>>62117387i'm paying for someone else to have excellent healthcarei don't get shit; i don't even get dentistry>>62116818socialist economies have completely fucked themselves by encouraging brain drain and fostering an underclass where being useless and sick is their full time job and having kids is subsidizedthere is no reason for me to stay here if i could flee to the us - this country doesn't even represent me so a patriotic argument is retardedfuck knows how you're supposed to get a job in the us outside of nepotism though when i can't even look for one or attend interviews on a vacation visa legally
>>62119583Which would make those other countries look better since it’s being measured in USD, you dumbass. They’re still being paid in euros and if the dollar collapses the euro should strength its exchange rate if Europe is better.
>>62119585>L.A >Famously poorSure bud, I'm being disingenuous here, not you, for sure, no doubt :) You just keep on keepin on you smart lil tiger you
>>62119584That’s the median which also includes part time workers. The median household income is around $83k. Look at the census data above. Even people with only a high school diploma are over $50,000 if they work full time.
>>62119715>Land in much of Europe is $4000 a hectare (2 acres) or less.Where in Europe?
>>62116818It is pretty funny to call Europe and Japan "competitors" to the US instead of what they are which is vassals. The only real functional competitor to the US is China.
the idea that land in europe is cheaper is patently and laughably retardedyeah maybe if we are comparing transylvania and lappland to rhode island and hawaii but they are practically giving it away in half the country and even within an hour of a major city you can own acres which simply isn't possible in western europe
>>62120242>nigger health insurance in the uk is 15% (deducted from your paycheck) + 8% over 12,570 + 2% over 50kHoly shit. I make $146k and my effective income tax rate isn’t even that high. We do get robbed 6.2% to pay for boomers social security that I’ll never receive.
>>62116818For an accurate comparison, Wages Georg shouldn't be counted or included.
>>62120242> fuck knows how you're supposed to get a job in the us outside of nepotism though when i can't even look for one or attend interviews on a vacation visa legallyWhat’s your field anon?
The US is now exporting more oil than ever in history, this war is making us rich!
>>62116818Shartgolems have no fucking idea how badly they are being ripped off and their wages still aren't enough, my entire monthly outgoings are £400, like $500. If I was in Shartistan it would be like $3000
