>>62118827How is he wrong? 99% of bitcoins problems could be solved by rolling out a new identity provider OK'd by major financial institutions and the EU, forced KYC at the wallet level with things like face scans and digital ID to ensure the right person is the one accessing the wallet and they're not a sanctioned individual, and then just freeze all the legacy wallets until they've updated to the new identity provider. It's seriously that easy to fix bitcoin and it also becomes quantum safe too.
>>62118846kys fed
>>62118846>>62118827Boot all of them from the team
>>62118827Quantum computing is one trillion light years away from being able to break sha256 encryption.
>>62118846Based and safepilled. Think of all the available insurance you'd be able to purchase in this regulated paradise as well. I'm so excited for you wholecoiners.
>>62118858it's not sha256, but ecdsa. many early wallets have had their public key exposed, which can be used to compute the secret scalar using shor's algorithm. but we're still quite far from a quantum computer capable of doing this
>>62118827>BIPlol
>>62118827>BIPlmao>>62118846bitcoin has no problems>>62118853what team? lmao>>62118858>>62118902quantum computing is not real and it will never be reallogical qubits defy entropy, they're literally impossible to build at any technological leveland yes, SHA2 is "quantum safe" because grover only reduces the brute force by half, but you still have 128bits of entropy which would take trillions of years anyway, shor will never be run on a quantum computingwe will, in centuries, arrive at classical computers capable of maybe running shor at a level that can get "lucky in a century of runtime" quantum computing will never run shorin fact, quantum computing will never factor the number 4
>>62118827Why not allow the inventors of quantum computers to take those coins? Don't they deserve them? If Satoshi is alive, he can move them to a quantum-resistant wallet. If not - I believe he wouldn't mind that some scientists will inherit his wealth.
>>62118943Kek im quite sure the price would tank by atleast 80% thats why
>>62118827>nukes are real>quantum nonsense is real>moon landings are realkek
>>62118827Kek
>>62118827Quantum computing is a scam and they know it. The universe won't allow us a shortcut. Noise grows exponentially with qubits (to the point it's unusable), and supercooling means it will never be energy-efficient except in outer space.Just like entangled particles won't allow us to transfer information faster than light; Einstein already thought we'd try that and clarified it's not a workable hack.
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>>62118827But its not dormant, people randomly send coins to his genesis wallets fairly regularly. Its actually a method of burning coins since putting coins in early era wallets that are known to be unused decreases the available supply which theoretically increases the price of the available coins.
>>62118865Its still not safe because the bitcoin network is not actually owned by anyone, so its not illegal to attack it since you aren't attacking anyone with any legal claim on anything, it would be "safe" if a nation state made their own blockchain that they claimed ownership of and insured with their national resources, but then it would be antithetical to the intentions of the bitcoin project.
>>62118923>we will, in centuries, arrive at classical computers capable of maybe running shorthat's not possible, shor's algorithm as a solution to ecdsa is only plausible if a computer can simulate all points on the curve simultaneously, which is only possible with quantum computation. the state obtained from the quantum computation is then decomposed with a classical computer to determine the secret scalar.>>62118943censoring satoshi's wallets is only part of the solution. updating to a quantum-safe signing algorithm requires all users to transfer funds to a new address. since satoshi presumably can't access his many hundreds of wallets, he wouldn't be able to participate. And if the chain is hardforking to counter quantum computers, then it makes little sense to leave this problem only partially solved
>>62118846lololol you've got it wrong, btc and crypto is exactly the opposite of that and nobody cares what authorities think or sayyou can all go and fuck each other
>>62118827>>62118846>>62118851bitcoin is not an anonymous coinit's an investmentif you want sth to run from the feds use monerobtc should have face id etc
>>62118943Western scientist wouldn't be the one to get them. Hacking a wallet would still be illegal here even if you could. Fuxking dimwits.
>>62119981This. The leap of logic is so fucking stupid. We're supposed to believe that, in the event that quantum computing is even possible, the first lab to make one are going to utilize it in petty crime to steal BTC? Gotta be a fuckin tard.
>>62119599>Noise grows exponentially with qubits (to the point it's unusable),they add coirrection codes>and supercooling means it will never be energy-efficient except in outer space.1) no, achieving <1 K or what ever in lab is possible2) so do it in earth orbit. or even do it in space (in decades) but still no
>>62118923>we will, in centuries, arrive at classical computers capable of maybe running shor at a level that can get "lucky in a century of runtime"this is how we know you have no idea what you talk about>btc should have face id etcyou are a retardocoinjoin = anonymity
>>62118827QC is worthless. Less than worthless, even. Only fraudsters will try to tell you it is ready for anything for reasons that are super simple for anyone who knows the math but sound like nonsense to normies: If your qbits are not entangled with each other. ALL of them.
>>62118846What the fuck would be the point in BTC if it became that pozzed.
>>62119444oh no?!
If quantum hackers are taking bitcorns then they’re probably state sponsored because goys can’t even afford ram
>>62120108>If your qbits are not entangled with each other. ALL of them.according to LLMs:Today’s quantum computers have demonstrated Shor-like factoring only for tiny numbers:15 3 × 521 3 × 735 5 × 7These experiments used:~5 to ~20 logical-equivalent qubitsBUT often with heavy simplifications (hybrid tricks, compiled circuits)
ooo look at me im a cypherpunk look at my dumb cypherpunk beard
>>62118827What about solar freaking roadways? How will be protect against that huh?
>>62118827Bitcoin is an abomination and all core developers are pedophiles
>>62118827Nobody cares about a shitty dividend fork of Bitcoin.
>>62118846Whatever. Vangardists will just move to an other chain. It's always like this. Reminder that Youtube was cool at the beginning. Even Google search gave really good results before delisting/censorship. Hell even Reddit had plenty of contrarian subreddits, full of informations. When something becomes normalized, it turns to shit.
>>62119448Oh since we are onto this: >Space is real>viruses are real>Dinosaurs are real>Mainstream historical chronology by Joseph Scalinger is real>Heliocentrism is real>Satellites we see in the sky are real
>>62120025>btc should have face idwhen did I ever say that, retard?>>62119731>that's not possible, shor's algorithm as a solution to ecdsa is only plausible if a computer can simulate all points on the curve simultaneously, which is only possible with quantum computatiothat's truethe problem still remains, it's impossible to achieve that because of entropy, not because of any engineering issue
>>62119969>bitcoin is not an anonymous coinit's pseudonymous>btc should have irrelevant what you thinkmy node, my rules
>>62120863>Today’s quantum computers have demonstrated Shor-like factoringthey have notall factoring done by supposed quantum machines were >fed the answer>or used a classical hybrid setup which defeats the whole purpose of the machine itselfthe actual number of logical qubits built is ZEROa quantum computer (it's not a computer) has not factored the number 4 yet
>>62121988>>Dinosaurs are realAll the "bones" you see in museum are plaster.
>>62118827Based. Less supply the better
