this is the fakest and gayest thing I have ever seen
Just keep it up for another 2 years plz
>>62130967yeah but for how much longer is it gonna be fake?
that's the important question>>62130968how come, anon?
>>62130967niggers be like>it must come down because it's going upNo, your shitty currency is just losing value. It's never coming down.
Dips are not allowed anymore I guess
>>62130974>your shitty currencyusd?
>>62130967how mysterious that this price action of april 2026 looks identical to april 2025
>>62130983yeah didn't someone talk about an "april shakeout" two years in a row?why april?
>>62130969till migger announces something
>>62130967please learn from these drops and recoveries
>>62130998>please learn from this six sigma event while the POTUS actively rigs the market kys
>tfw boglechads win again
>>62131005or dont bro!
>op
>>62131009everything that could possibly be 'learned' was encapsulated in the response I just gave you along with the text in the OP
>the market is rigged!!!!!
>im not wrong, everyone else is wrong
>>62131015stop being a brainless retard. you should be able to identify this rally was peak clown regardless of your positioning or you're going to be giving back any money you (allegedly) made here
>>62130993what if something else happens doe
>>62131020>this rally was peak clownWAS or IS?
>>62131028it remains to be seen, I deal in probabilities not absolutes
>>62130967they have infinite money and you expect market to be real, they can print any amount they want and short or long the market when they feel it
>>62131020it doesnt matter if the sp500 goes down again, because it will go back up. Midwits dont make money
its tough to know which V shape recovery OP is crying about. i see at least 4 good ones.
>>62131020It’s not peak clown, it’s just printing. When you print 3 trillion dollars in 2 months it has to go somewhere.
Do people not realize that the shit and piss 500 will always go up due to inflation?
>>62130969As long as fiat currency exists
>>62131030there is no proof the treasury is buying equities directly or indirectly. this rally was pretty low volume and I think mechanically driven as a squeeze on low volume plus delulu algobots. >>62131033yeah no shit it trends up, your post is pointlessgod everyone here is so fucking retarded sometimes. can't we just discuss how ridiculous this was without bull vs bear posting. it's so tiresome. I bought calls on the way up too, but I can at least acknowledge how insane this was. the amount of rigging of information and market timing from both Iran and the US during this was unprecedented. the intensity of the move was too, from oversold to overbought within that two week period. regardless of your positioning it was a very very rare sequence of events and should be studied and it'll be interesting to see where it goes over the next couple weeks and what the news flow looks like.
>>62130967Try pricing the market in a real currency lmao
>>62131040"printing" didn't substantially change on April 1st. what turned the rally around was Trump's clownposting on Truth Social.
>>62130967it's up what 4% on the year? it's routinely up 20% or more you dumb cryptocuck
>>62131044Its not that, it's because it just randomly pumped before he announced anything and the strait was still closed
>>62131052you are the exact type of idiot I'm talking about
>>62131049perhaps>>62131047oh shit
>sure you were smart enough to by the dip, but i am even smarter. i blew my account up.>the market is rigged to go up but i still shorted it. >everything is fake but my losses are real.
>>62131044oh yes all the additional inflation that didn't exist for the six months it crabbed below $700 and then suddenly appeared and got priced in from April 3rd to April 17thlike can you not see the chart? it was crabbing sideways on bad economic data, war announced, it plunges and everyone is scared of oil squeeze, then Trump dickteases back up to to ATH via clownposts. no economic circumstances have changed that were suppressing it previously and the war stuff has only gotten worse. certainly to some extent you can at least see how this is odd>>62131065again, this isn't about my personal positioning or anyone else's. I bought calls at the bottom but did not ride it all the way to the top. exited around $660-650. who cares. I bought puts Friday. none of it matters. this thread is about commenting on and discussing the rampant fakeness and gayness. can you please stop being a retard and making this about bull vs bear posting, it's really beside the point.
>>62131074>and the war stuff has only gotten worse.has it?
>>62131057Hello my little genius did you ever stop to consider that you are the idiot? The only reason the market was down at all was 100% manufactured. Every major player is crushing it this year. We should be up double or more.
>>62131049its the banks, not treasury, what i am saying is that they can create liquidity and change market sentiment just like that and when normies buy up the top again, they will dump, without ability to create liquidity you could not do this manipulation.
>>62131076I can't think of anyway it's gotten better? the US now has naval presence in the strait and Iran is blowing up tankers, peace talks failed. you could argue the fact that peace talks took place at all is good though, but so far it seems like the differences aren't resolvable.the only way it's really gotten better is trump has changed his prose from threatening to glass them to at least bluffing about peace. but if anything this just leads to a stalemate which is probably the worst case for oil situation I'd think>>62131080That's exactly my point you retard, can you not read? it's right in the OP.
>>62131076Strait is closed again
>>62131084the fed can't legally buy equities either to be clear. whether the fed and treasury are actually doing this is another question. do you mean like private ones like JPM? because they obviously do. but yeah banks will control the liquidity in the economy but idk about the market, wouldn't that apply more to market makers at large, which are not limited to banks? at any rate the coordination between the underlying market moving forces and the fake coordinated media like Axios has been off the charts. combined with nearly unprecedented price action, it's just been a while last two weeks. the SPY weekly chart just looks comically insane right now.
>>62131099it was never even open, it was just either closed by Iran, or closed by Iran and also the US blockade. ships haven't been moving through at more than 10% the previous normal rate since this began.
>>62131090i see>>62131099BWAA
>>62131090you have a strange way of communicating. yeah it shouldn't have needed a rally it should have just gone up without it.
>>62131109you are not comprehending this conversation or thread
>>62131114oh ok it's really hard to comprehend you must be a genius sorry bud have fun talking to yourself
>>62131131it's actually really easy once you know how to read and take the time to do it before posting
>>62131136>this is the fakest and gayest thing I have ever seenwow next level m8 I have learned so much you are truly above all else with this deep yet easy to understand comment that you seem to want to respond to over and over again for no apparent reason
>>62131103>the fed can't legally buy equities either to be clearbut they still have enough money to do it illegally or to change the law, right?
>>62131021then he will announce something else else
>>62130967It's a tripler with a full moon right round the corner btw.
>>62130967newsflash: markets can remain gay and fake longer than you can remain solvent. either dance to the tune of it and get fat and wealthy or stay out of it
>>62130986Last April had “liberation day”, where Trump threatened the whole world with huge tariffs.
>>62130969Until boomer jews convince enough retail to buy into it, then they rugpull.
>he shorted?>pump eet
>>62131424it's just never been so blatantly manipulated and insanely gay
>>62131705its called "you were wrong". your worldview is wrong. your perception of reality is wrong. no one was going to give you an all clear signal at the bottom. then tell you its ok to buy and make 100x with leverage on the way up. >unexpected thing happened>market sold off>market had time to understand the situation better>markets came back up
>>62130967we just needed to cool off before the next rally
>>62131008mid 30s and my 401k is pissing distance from 7 figures. 50% VTI, 30% sp500 and 20% VGT. re-balance once a year, buy every paycheck.In another 10 years we'll be having this same conversation again, literally all you have to do is buy, hold, and wait. it really could not be any easier. As daddy buffet says you will never run a marathon if you don't ever start running.
>>62130967President Pussy market.
>>62130967The only gay thing are the delusional doomers on this board who were calling for a 50% correction on index funds just a few weeks ago. Board is full of bear troons. It's not going to crash before they buy something.
>>62131798what exactly was I wrong about?
>>62130967are you upset nigger or just mad?
>>62131434why dey doin dat in april twice?coincidence?>>62131436fr?
>>62131994what is up wit the endless stream of retards here. I bought calls when it was $630. I am still mad the market is being so exceptionally fake and gay. it is possible to be aware of the clownishness of the markets and still make money, believe it or not.did I also buy puts that will probably expire worthless? yes, not afraid to admit I dont' have a 100% hit rate. am I mad about that? not at all. the point is this move was comical and it was fueled by lies, the market is behaving extra weird.
iran refused second round of peace talkswill this make it drop?
>>62132036theyre zoomers who primarily do sports betting or watch gambling streamers. their investment sense is abolutely fried
>>62132056we will wait and see what the #1 truther Donald J Trump says. most likely he will tell us that we're on the verge of an Israel-focused agreement that gives Israel full control of Iran, Lebanon, Syria, United States, Venezuela and Greenland.
>>62132081based
>>62132036>>62132060mad and coping
>>62130967>bear still think line can go down when we literally have infinite money supply
>>62131074regardless what it's doing, why are you so emotional about it?
>>62132036I agree with you anon.Answer me these:>Where should the money go, is there a absolutely any investment that those loaded want to put their money towards? Because the way I see it the parasitic elite is making money through asset bubbles, that's how they finance themselves and until the next bubble comes along they'll keep the previous pumped up so that retards buy the top >What compels them to sell?Unless they start needing the nomey to cover basic necessities, they can keep the current valuations indefinitely. Like boomers with real estate.
>>62132246>why are you so emotional about it?he's mad because bears are all terrorists who hate America
>>62132246Personally I think the markets are quite real and straight. I think OP is just frustrated that he doesn't understand what's going on in the world and he wants a "there there" and a pat on the back.
>>62132081sounds like he's blowing up Iranian ships and threatening total annihilation again. brace for a -0.3% circuit breaker on Monday >>62132246I am not emotional about it at all, I am just looking for discussion on perspectives that lead to this behavior. I'm of the opinion it was largely a mechanical short squeeze driven rally on low volume and algobots bidding into headlines. >>62132262I agree I'm not saying there's a better place, the S&P 500 will keep going up unless we have some major changes in how the USD is issued and minted (not happening). I'm aware any dip is then seen as a sale and bought up. But with sufficiently bad news and stock performance, sideways years aren't out of the question, so the market _should_ price in that risk by selling or at least reducing buy pressure. How we made ATHs during this is beyond me.>>62132347Are you incapable of identifying statistical anomalies even when being dickslapped by it?
>>62132531I think you've been paying attention to markets but not to the real world, now the real world is moving the markets in ways you can't predict. You say "anomalies" but everything that's happening is part of an economic war. It's not random.
>>62132631>You say "anomalies"The move was a statistically anomaly by definition. Moves of that magnitude and intensity over such a short period of time are exceedingly rare, I think the only other one IIRC was like in the 1950s. That's what I mean when I say that, I'm not talking about anything else just price action and that this was like a six sigma event. It went from oversold to overbought in a hearbeat and blasted to new ATHs, escaping the previous rangebound ceiling. Look at the chart and tell me it's not an anomaly. This feels like bitcoin in 2017.When you take that, and couple it with a complete mismatch between what the president is saying and what's happening, it's bizarre.
>>62132657You have failed to introduce the thousands of variables that explain why the market is acting in the irrational way it appears. It is actually quite rational you are just too low IQ to interpret each variable and its economic implications
>>62132631And here's the weekly chart back to 2004. There is no other time where it behaved like this, and when you take the surrounding macro and geopolitical reality it's even more odd. The tariff rebound was similar, and I think the market has a lot of memory of that which over-extended the move. I recall reading that retail dip buyers outperformed institutional money on the tariff dip, so I'm sure a lot of big money didn't want a repeat of that.What I'm getting at is just that this was by any definition a very rare and perhaps unprecedented last couple of weeks.
>>62132668>it's priced inoh wow very insightful, are these infinite variables in the room right now? Can you show us your pricing machine? I don't care where spot price goes personally. >It is actually quite rational It is not and never has been, and that's ok.
>>62130967>this is the fakest and gayest thing I have ever seenWelcome to the jewish casino.No crying allowed here goy.
>>62132684not crying, just observing and plotting. markets at ATHs give trumpstein some wiggle room to fuck shit up while softening the blow.
>>62132631Just wanna add the tariff rebound *price action* was similar, but fundamentals here are way different. It rebounded more violently on worse fundamentals.
>>62132683Another low IQ post and comparing charts from 2004? Since you are attempting to deal in the real world (and failing) here's free advice. Buy the index and dont ever look at the price
>>62132728Are you too low IQ to understand what a statistical distribution is? The bell curve itself? Do I really have to say it?
>>62132755Wow a bell curve distrubution. Something taught in 8th grade. Brilliant. Post your net worth you must be loaded.
Also nfts are back
>>62132770Yes, so any reasonable should understand that the price action in the last two weeks was indeed a statistical anomaly on that distribution >>62132657This isn’t even up for debate it’s just objectively true, not sure why this is so controversial here. What matters is forecasting what’s next
>>62132785S&p 12k by 2030Anything else is not important. Day trading is a suckers game. Try enjoy the roller coaster on the way up
>>62132798I make money trading volatility primarily, intraday and interday. “Day trading” is probably a suckers game but intraday trading is not, market runs on it.
>>62130967I'm more of a cryptotard and I was finally getting sound of mind to put a chunk into an s&p index but this doesn't seem like a good time. It should be going down soon right?
>>62133283im inclined to say yes it will retrace a bit, but you can always DCA over a given timeframe too. there's a chance it doesn't and you'll be left waiting forever
>>62132806>“Day trading” is probably a suckers game but intraday trading is not, market runs on it.wtf is the differencegoogle grok told me theye're the same
>>62133338they are the same, I'm just intending to point out there's a difference between a typical 'day trader' using TA and making directional bets vs someone who trades intraday like a market maker or arbitrageur, who typically provide a service to the market. someone running systematic automated strategies intraday I wouldn't necessarily call a 'day trader' personally
>>62131863>investing in both VTI and S&Pwhat's the point of holding both of this?
>>62130969Until you're dead bro>>62130967Up, down, up, down
>>62130967AMERICA is winning. The only fall will be when space colonies seek independence like a thousand years from now.
