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>spend your prime years working for money so when you're 65 you can retire!

What is up with so many people being comfortable with this? By 65 most of your life has passed you by, and you will likely have multiple health issues unless you take care of yourself (which most people don't). Basically every old person I have met, regardless of their wealth, has been a miserable grouch.

Where is the advice that recommends you retire asap?
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>>62131032
>Where is the advice that recommends you retire asap?
In FIRE communities.
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>>62131032
>Where is the advice that recommends you retire asap?
In street bum communities.
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>>62131078
Grain fed post of the day.
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>>62131032
have sex
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70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
Top 70-80% are treading water.
Top 10% keep doing better and better.
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>>62131032
Ohnoes watammagonado /Demoralisations and kumar spam/?
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they can't change because the previous generations will crash the system if the next generation doesn't have to suffer like them. everyone is a petty and bitter bitch in this world.
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>>62131139
>70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
While driving their $100k El Grande Maximus XL pickup truck back and forth to their low end job.
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>>62131032
What would you rather do then if you didn't work?
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>>62131032
Nobody is forcing you to live like this, bitch faggot.

>>62131073
^ correct.

>>62131139
As it should be. Most people ate low-IQ hedonistic parasites. They should always be living in debt and be stressed out daily. They shouldn't even have a say in how society is run, nor should they have the retarded belief that they deserve the privilege in the first place.

>>62131419
^ also correct.
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>>62131032
This again? Do what you like, but if you imagine everyone who actually lives a productive life ends up miserable and regretting it, you are a fool. There is more to life than eating, fucking, vaping, getting high, and playing vidya. If you have a little discipline and depth of character, your working years will be great and retirement just frosting on a cake. While working full time you can still develop skills, hobbies, interests, a love-life, a family, etc. Even if your job makes enjoyment during working hours impossible (almost never the case) you will have plenty of leisure to do the above if you get your shit together and do it. And I promise you that the most miserable, grouchy 65 year old you ever meet will be the one who did nothing to prepare financially, physically, socially, and (most importantly) mentally for the golden years following the working years.
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>>62131032
no one is comfortable with it. NO ONE. there is no alternative. you either do it or you literally and I mean literally die on the street like a dog.
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>>62131538
>There is no alternative
This is not true.
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>>62131543
ok whats the alternative and please dont say neetbucks because thats reserved for brown and muslim people not regular caucasians.
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>>62131032
All you atheists miss the point.
The point is to glorify God with good works.
You also build wealth to support a wife and children.
Yes if you're alone just stay in mama's house playing WoW.
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>>62131532
>you can still learn skills while waging goy! It's not that bad! I can sell you some courses!
Gee thanks for the input, rabbi
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>>62131546
You already know which alternatives you're interested in, but you don't allow yourself to explore them more closely than thought experiments and vicarious observations of others.
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>>62131554
>you need to sacrifice your life for others
That's right, YOU need to do exactly that. Deal in the real world for me. We're all really thankful for your sacrifices up here, keep going, you still have some life in you
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>>62131032
>retire when you're 65
Kek! He doesn't know, they are going to raise the retirement age to 75
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>>62131032
It's more profitable for the people who know how to help you retire in 10 years to keep you working for 40 years. The FIRE community is what you are looking for, but it will never be a popular system because the corporate entities that understand finance will not promote it and lose their consumer base.
On the neetbucks note, the math does work out that a UBI is actually feasible in the USA. You remove all other welfare programs, reduce the scope of government (this will never happen though), and suddenly there's enough money to give every citizen (not illegal aliens and anchor babies) the current standard deductible as a yearly salary. Any dollar made above that amount is then taxed at a flat rate of 20%.
There will always be the chronic welfare recipients who use this to sit at home and rot just as they do now, but a UBI with the only restriction as being a generational US citizen provides a safety net to take opportunities whether that be starting a business that might not work out, moving to a different area for better work, or even moving to a less populated and LCOL area to start a family and contribute to small local economies.
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>>62131532
>And I promise you that the most miserable, grouchy 65 year old you ever meet will be the one who did nothing to prepare financially, physically, socially, and (most importantly) mentally for the golden years following the working years.
I know so many people that died roght before retirement or into their first year or so, and the ones that make it past 70 all have noticeable cognitive decline and need help from others for their day to day.
Regardless of how well you prepare for it, the human body isn't made to keep you alive and in good shape past your reproductive years.
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whats your purposeful for an alternative? Be a good little commie and share everyone's resources? resources are finite, and by and large already owned.
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>>62131588
Holy vaguepost retard.
If your family isn't wealthy and you didn't navigate your way into a very high paying industry and company by your mid-late 20s, the probability you will have to work till 60+ is super high. Even if you save aggresively, you will only be able to retire like 5-10 hears before that tops, and that's if you don't have a family. If alternatives to working existed for most people, they wouldn't work or qould only work sporadically on some passion job. Capitalism can only be maintained if working is a necessity that forces people into doing jobs they wouldn't do otherwise.
Well unless the alternative you talk about is to just to retire early regardless of your financial state and just kill yourself when the money runs out I guess.
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>>62132202
>just kill yourself when the money runs out I guess.
Look what atheistic satanism does to a mother fucker. Sad. Mix in a little Mammon worship and here you are.
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>>62131620
Selfishness is the essence of satanism.
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>>62131032
its because they get something out of it. never let someone lie to you and tell you that "we're in this together" or "it sucks for me too," they are all animals who have a compulsion to live, nothing less nothing more, otherwise they would off themselves or generate wealth.
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>>62131032
>Where is the advice that recommends you retire asap?
That requires money. You haven't seen any money advice anywhere? You fucking retard. You imbecile.
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>>62131032
>Where is the advice that recommends you retire asap?
you're looking for r/wallstbets
take a bunch of risk, roll the dice. its either ferrari or food stamps.



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