How do you best avoid a wrench attack? Multi sig?This assume they already know your name and have found you even if you've moved address eg thanks to the ledger leakFrance faces the brunt of an increasing violent crime wave against the crypto community https://share.google/yLMyDqWqEtYbWwyTj
>>62146517CCW in states that aren't Constitutional Carry.
just carry around a bigger wrench
>>62146517Throw a pocketfull of nuts and bolts at the assailant. They won't be able to attack you until they've tightened them all, giving you sufficient time to escape.
>>62146561Let's say you're already compromised and your gun is out of reach, or maybe that you're not in the USLet's say they've already tied you up etc. what is the best setup to have that you can prove to the attacker(s) that you simply can't transfer funds?
>>62146517A really big magnet to pull the wrench right out of his hand.
>>62146572My guns are never out of reach and I wouldn't go anywhere where that would be the case.
>>62146572If you're already at their mercy, you're fucked because they have no reason not to believe you're lying and even if they do believe you, they'll probably still beat the shit out of you or kill you out of frustration. Probably best bet is to have a fake sacrifice account with a small amount of crypto that you can give up to appease them. Either that, or some method of tracking them down afterwards and getting your money back, but I wouldn't have the faintest clue how to do that.
>>62146572What do you think happens when they find out they can't get it? Just let you go and go on with their day? LolYoure fucked either way, the best option is to not let any scum get the info you have crypto to begin with (and live in a non shithole)
>>62146517I carry a full set of non-adjustables. More ammunition and I can find exactly the right size to unscrew the attacker's cock quicker than he can adjust his stupid spanner.
>>62146596Many people have already been compromised without it being their fault directly eg LedgerAnd what if a big entity like Coinbase ever had its database leaked? When KYC is involved, there is only so much you can do.>>62146596If they can see you can't physically/technically transfer anything then that might work for that exact moment. You'd still be fucked later probably.
its ironic that i was a retard kid and bought my ledger nano s from amazon in 2017 (verified directly from amazon, not third party) and that it saved my ass sofar.
>>62146517>This assume they already know your name and have found you even if you've moved address eg thanks to the ledger leakif they know your name, its extremely trivial to find out where you live anyway. You can even not have any social media presence at all, but any relative or friend or someone you went to school with etc WILL post pics of where they live and then its game over. The only way to avoid a wrench attack is by being not a valid target in the first place OR having actual 24/7 security. Or you're schizophrenic and carry a gun/weapon with you 24/7
I don't have any crypto
>>62146841Be sure to let us know how that works out.
>>62146841Doesn't matter. I've already ordered a ledger device to your home and the database has been leaked.
>>62146841"Yeah sure. We're not dumb."-The attackers while beating the fuck outa you
>>62146517Threaten the attackers by saying you will send the Pain Token to their wallets.
>>62146517this is a euro fag problem. As I'm typing to you, there is a 12 gauge remington express behind my door, on the other side of that is a mossberg 20 gauge bird gun, to the right of that is my plate carrier vest and PSA ar-15. On my kitchen counter is my revolver. I will probably be going up next week to buy a lever action from academy, have never owned or fired one.
>>62146572Fake cyanide pill tooth, start trembling and drooling, hopefully this scares them and they run away
cant you keep physical 2FA/ ledger devices, seed phrases, etc in a bank box? everytime your here about these frog wrench attacks it sounds like they had the equivalent getting robbed for cash that you had in a not hidden safe or something considering how easily transferable it is.
>>62146572Blockchains should integrated delayed transfers.For example, the owner should be able to set a timer, during which the coins are not send. Then after the time has passed, confirmation again for the transfer, with a password. That would stop most attempts.
>>62146596Until now, not many have been killed. Often for a pure civilian it's beating up, cutting, but not Cartel like, or cutting a finger. Those who have been killed, had already have some sort of relation with the criminal world. Alarm system that can be triggered when you are in the house. With an emergency button that make it ring and call assistance. Guns obviously. They would most likely flee. It's not their interest to shoot at you, since they would have nothing, and also would just have committed aggravated murder.
>>62146973This doesn't work if they kidnap your mother and send you her finger.
>>62147545I mean this is a worry for anyone with any kind of money anywhere. Look at that Samantha Guthrie’s mom shit. Ultimately the world is a very fucked up place and you have to protect yourself and teach your family to do the same.
>>62146517Just don't use crypto. Keep all your cash and valuables in your mattress so if somebody wants it they have to take your whole mattress. Simple as.
>>62146517multiple wallets. having an unsecured metamask wallet on your computer with 0.05 ETH is generally a good way to get "notified" when your PC gets compromised. this wallet can then also be exposed in a wrench attack. well invested 0.05 ETH.
>>62146517I didn't read anything other than the subject but the solution is obvious retard. Buy a fucking gun.
>>62146572They have hardware wallets that you can set a timer on and will lock the wallet for that amount of time. 1 day 20 years, whatever timer you set. Funds cant be moved until then. So even if you gave them the right info they couldn't move money from it. You could tell them it's locked, but they might not believe you or get mad when they find out it's true.
>>62146517Multisig, yeah. Especially if the wallets are geographically dispersed. You have to make it so that even if you told them absolutely everything immediately you know that they'd still not be able to recover the wallets super quickly. If they've got to now get out to some bank in Alaska and Switzerland during regular hours and forge your identity or attempt to break in at a bank or another house across the country it's a huge mess for them. Realistically they only have so long to hold you. With a basic home break in they've got maybe 15 minutes. If they've disabled alarms or whatever and no one sees the broken glass it's maybe, maybe 24 hours before people notice, but then it's still a mess for them to manage an extended hostage situation.Defeating that requires a very sophisticated level of criminality that's more on the level of a Hollywood heist movie than the typical robbery of 1-3 guys pulling up to snatch and grab the goods. But at that point you're more in fantasy land- why doesn't someone kidnap Elon Musk or Bezos long enough to liquidate tens of millions of stock and transfer it to an offshore account?
>>62146572Legitimately not be able to simply transfer the funds. You use the self-destruct code on your Trezor when they hand it to you. Now the Trezor needs the backup key, which is split everywhere.You may not be able to convince the thugs of this, but you can't do anything about it. You can cry as they put a drill into your kneecap and tell them absolutely everything about where the keys are, super promise to go into the bank in Zurich to get your part of the backup wallet out, but you simply won't be able to get the funds for them. They may kill you, but honestly that's going to make the heat so much worse for them.
>>62146572Escrow for the blockchains that have it. The only other option I see is relying on somebody else to hold part of your key
>>62146572>Let's say you're already compromised and your gun is out of reachThis will never happen to me, I'm not a goy cattle like you are.>or maybe that you're not in the USSee above reply.
