I recently discovered that the "business community" online is not skillful specialists who are trying to build a business in their respective fields of knowledge/trade, but rather a bunch of uneducated retards trying to get rich fast and spend whole day spending money on a gypsy-esque idea of a luxury life. And this so called "grind" that they are reffering to all the time is basically googling/asking ChatGPT what business they should make. Of course 90% of businesses fail, when 9 out of 10 "entrepreneurs" are literally just gamblers.
>>62153139Gambling is probably the easiest way to make it. Just imagine wasting 10 years of your life on some business just to lose it all to some bullshit that fucks you over.
>>62153139h-hote....
>>62153139Sure, what now? 1. Nobody wants to really understand complex, high-barrier-to-entry businesses.2. If there is an undiscovered niche, people try to keep it on the DL, then it grows rapidly for a little bit (e.g. underwater welding and air traffic controller back in the day). Or drone pictures for Zillow - that's a decade old now. Nobody who knows niches really comes here either, for the most part.So yea, internet is back to being the loser containment zone for the most part. Also chin is old, demographic definitely aged.
>>62153181>internet is loser containment zonehave u seen instagram? all the hot popular rich people basically live on that app and post 24/7 lol
>>62153139I couldn’t relate to the landwhale plapjaks but this one resembles my wife pretty closely
>>62153139i just discovered OP is a faggot
>>62153181>underwater welding and air traffic controller back in the daywhew holy shit its been over ten years nowyou would never want to do any underwater industrial shit though, trust me
>>62153139>when she won't doggy style because she wants to look at you>have to see her fat gunt and can't see the TVwhy are women like this
>>62153139I want 5/10 gf
>>62153164>Just imagine wasting 10 years of your life on some business just to lose it all to some bullshit that fucks you over.this happened to me, to make matters worse I was a senior in college (math and cs, not an art degree) at the time and using student loans to build my business out, purchasing equipment with the idea I could sell it to repay loan if it failed. shit got stolen, I got extorted, lost everything, etc. my 20s were completely wasted despite doing all the 'right things' and being very ambitious and put together.im mostly focusing on gambling now
>>62153241nice body but a butterface
>>62153322that's a 2/10
>>62153241agreed she does look like this anon's wife
>>62153330OuchSorry anon; hope things are mostly sorted by now
>>62153522they aren't but at some point you just stop caring and it's the new baseline so it's all the same I'd probably be just as miserable if everything worked out somehow. I just miss having accomplishments and momentum the most
>>62153139haven't had sex in almost 2 months
>>62153340In Canada that’s a 5/10
>>62153139where did you get a picture of my girlfriend?
>>62153340that's considered a 6 to 6.5 depending on the face in my country
>>62153330>math and cs, not an art degreeessentially the same thing these days thobeit
Hoeflation is so bad the meme is already outdated, a woman like that now expects far better than wojak
>>62153330that sucks. what kind of gambling do you focus on? and where do you do itwas thinking of going to vegas to hit the tables and slot machines but it's probably a scam these days. was also going to look into sports betting
>>62153330Meanwhile some bitch with an arts degree makes 150k per year as an hr roastie doing nothing all day think about that. This is why it is mostly not worth it to work hard, better to abuse the system.
>>62153299Like OP, you should have known
>>62153139me on the left on the tv
>>62153139That still looks like a good time besides big mouth
>>62153930>that sucks. what kind of gambling do you focus on? and where do you do itmostly focused on SPY options right now, intraday for the most part. I've been building out an automated trading system for the last year and options are the most complex instrument class so I've been focusing on those and representing vol surface and dynamics. I'm trying to model the whole SPX complex (SPX/SPY/VIX/ES etc) and find statistical edges.if I can just get 5-10% a month reliably without risk of blowing up I'd be set. I know it's possible, so I'm just ignoring everything else in my life until I get there>>62153942yeah I wish I could abuse the system somehow, easier said than done for a regular person
>>62153139congrats, I guess. should have realized a long time ago
>>62154001I enjoyed the first few seasons.
>>62153241At least you have companionship to go through life together haha. Imagine all these lonely losers your age just having sex with their own hands and posting on the internet all day.
>>62154962>At least you have a fat decaying old hag to lull you into a false sense of security while your lifeforce slips away
>>62154962Being alone is unironically better
>>62155046Dude you're still getting older by the day.Its a nice feeling that someone is close to you and loves you for the person you are.Cant imagine how bad of a person some people are who cant experience this.
>>62155067>someone is close to you and loves you for the person you areYou've never been with a woman, have you?
>>62155081Im married for 5 year now anon.My wife is also my best friend and companion. I cant imagine a life without her anymore.You are literally biologically wired to have a female companion anon, you just have to find the right one.
>>62155084Women are mind fucked by satanic jew rats thoever.
>>62153139>Most people are lazy retards trying to be the lucky oneDo you still have to be over 18 to post here?
>>62155092Kek ok incel
>>62155046that's really mean thing to say Timmy, so how was your day at school?
>>62154962>>62155046lmao got proven right IMMEDIATELY
>>62153561How are you still alive?
>>62153561Big deal, faggot. I haven't had sex in 14 years
>>62155084>>62155067gayand I’ve been in a relationship for 11 years now. You are gay
>>62155297Based.
>>62155096Its a pretty safe bet when you run into one of these>broad brush overgeneralized explanations of [demographic group]its probably a third worlder (whether they reside in the west or not total lack of enlightenment tier values is evident in the way they shape their worldview and outlook.
>>62155096Its a pretty safe bet when you run into one of these>broad brush overgeneralized explanations of [demographic group]its probably a third worlder (whether they reside in the west or not). The total lack of enlightenment tier values is evident in the way they shape their worldview and outlook.
>>62153139Well of course, successful people never waste their time helping anybody so naturally they’re not going to hang out online giving everyone real advice.
>>62154281How are you programming the automated trading system? Are you using an API of a broker?
>>62155672>Are you using an API of a broker?There is literally no other way to do it, unless you use a provider which does it for you and gives you a GUI.
>>62153181> 1. Nobody wants to really understand complex, high-barrier-to-entry businesses.Nobody wants to make shit wages for 5+ years learning the best practices for in demand blue collar businesses. Nobody wants to be treated like a nigger and make a Mcdonalds wage for half a decade to learn how to properly install septic systems when my boomer boss started the multimillion dollar company by paying two Mexicans to hand dig holes where they dropped septic tanks that were so cheap and shitty they’re now banned. That’s to say nothing of the legal barriers to entry those same boomers erected to protect their businesses from competition like you.
>>62154281>if I can just 2x my port every year with zero risk I'll be setBest of luck!
>>62155710What you are talking about is an entirely different "business" model than startups, etc.You are essentially talking about the LOW-barrier-to-entry businesses, note the distinction since what you quoted from me says HIGH. Building decks, doing floors, redoing roofs, concrete pouring, re-wiring homes, doing HVAC, granite counters, bathrooms, windows, car repair, AirBnB, Turo fleets, etc are all low-barrier to entry. You did describe the issues with that. The main issue you forgot though is that the people that work for you are either complete trash or they just leave to do things on their own and there is very little you can do to retain them.This has very little to do with "startups" in the sense that you are trading arbitrage with a bot when crypto exchanges are new, for example.There are also funded business, e.g. a new sports betting operator that has to get funded to the tune of $200,000 to even get started, and that's a whole other story as well.So when people talk about "business", I think they have to differentiate between these since the risks / returns are so different. Basically, wagie-ism has a ton of issues too, specifically capping out hard. Consulting is slavery for 1.5-2x. Then there is going to big startups as an employee which is basically same risks as a business. If you can make FAANG or be a surgeon (and not at 50), sure, do i.
Yeah, more or less.Trying to find my own field to do stuff in is impossible online because I have two things that I have years of experience in>Commercial fruit production>House remodelingFor the first one nobody focuses on anything small and it's all schizo unprofitable food foresters or homesteaders, or some commercial zogfarm selling toxic green leaves (I would never sell a leaf for someone to eat)For the second one none of the prices are even remotely comparable and none of them talk about the actual hard parts, which are financing and nigger tenants. It's all a clickfarm or hustlers or whatever.Btw I'll spill the beans on something, putting up a u-pick needs only like 1/4 acre of land and people actually pay MORE than the market value of fruit to pick it. It requires almost no work. The more land the more work you invite exponentially.It takes almost no initial investment to buy + plant 1 acre of land, you could do it in a year with a mcjob.
>>62155751How much money is there in u-pick really? Seems like a fad too, I got dragged to those a couple of years ago, but doesn't really seem like a thing anymore. Super season too. >House remodelingYou basically have to do full chain here, as in find cheapies and then remodel and re-sell, kind of like cars. Very saturated market, some grandma died and kids sold at reasonable cost (not 3x flipper mark up). Saw one house like that in the city in the year, flipper bought cash within 30 minutes, usually they don't even hit market because RE agents have their own people they go to with deals.
>>62155780>How much money really?Like 10k with a little operation you run yourself 3 weeks of the year, the advantage is its seasonality. You might spend like a month of the year actually working on it, you aim for seasonality so you don't have to run the thing constantly.>Doesn't really seem like a thing anymoreIt always has been a thing, the trick is to keep it small though because as you get bigger you have to be more of a big business and not just a free 10k a year pseudo-business. And with 10k a year I'd be close to retirement.>Housing is location-specificYeah it is.My area has a severe lack of flip-to-rent people, they try to flip and sell it for massive price increases but nobody's renting their flips. I know the market will be absolutely crazy cheap in my area in a couple years as people retire, and I'm already seeing great deals as landlords turn 75 and no longer want to do the work.But this is all extremely location specific and if you're in a bad market you can't do it there.
>>62155746What are some examples of a high barrier to entry businesses
>>62155852Anything that's a real business - banks, car manufacturing, commercial real estate, defense, airlines, data centers, etc.There are also medium investment business such as sports gambling platforms where there is some regulation and you need at least $10,000 a month and $200,000 in paperwork to run it, so randos can't do it but neither do you need corporate investors.
>>62155871The businesses you’re describing are impossible to enter. Your chances of starting any of those businesses are practically nil unless you were born to incredibly wealthy parents.
>>62155928Of course, my point is to be clear about what we are discussing.You need a 100 mil liquid to even think about asking other investors for more.
>>62153139>started from bottom, now we hereFrom plabjack to overweight butterface?Dude, he is getting better at picking up chicks!!Mad respect!
>>62153139Bro just long AMD and be done with it.
>>62155935What you’re describing is completely different than what the OP is talking about. What is even the point of coming to a thread about the kind of people starting small business and then talking about ultra wealthy nepo babies starting businesses that the average person could never dream of starting?
>>62153942yeah but those types lost the intellectual lottery. they spend well over half of their salary on pointless bullshit to impress people who don't give a shit about them. They biologically can never make it.
>>62153139Yeah, you get a lot of that on LinkedIn: bullshit artists with no useful skills spamming the site with their idiotic opinions in the hopes that maybe someone will hire them to do "consulting".
>>62155067>bad of a person>women are attracted to morality>implying
>>62155084>biologically wired to have a female companion>source: my asshole
>>62153139Pic rel is literally me with chubby Mexican girls >5'7. Based.
>>62156066I mean there are some big spenders here rich from crypto investments.
Guys, you're not supposed to like the plapjak.
>>62155713It's definitely possible with a smaller portfolio size, like under $1-2m. Not sure where you're getting 'zero risk' from, but yeah the intent is to optimize for risk adjusted returns for a smooth equity curve. There's a lot of volatility and convexity in the market, if you can capture more upside than downside without moving the market too much in the process, all of this is possible.
>>62156364Consistent 100% returns is impossible, regardless of portfolio size
>>62153139No shit.It's actually even worse when you see the business community IRL, like industry conventions and meetups. 80% of attendees do not do the thing the convention is about. They're there to shill some unrelated thing, or begging people for jobs, or just getting selfies, while having zero skills of their own.
>>62153139It's even worse than you think. These people aren't trying to set up business. Their whole business is spending money on material things that the poor and uneducated think means wealth. Designer clothing, expensive watches, nice cars, business class flights. They then try to sell dreams to these same people by selling repackaged courses about dropshipping or life coaching. They are a cancer, it's just a more modern take on the pyramid schemes that used to get spammed all over the internet in the 2000s.
>>62156547Check out those "networking events". Those always make me laugh.
>>62153139I don't recall ever seeing Wojak with a GF before.
>>62156478This is demonstrably false contingent upon the definition of consistent. Market makers get these kinds of returns regularly but it hits capacity constraints, for example. It doesn't scale forever, but it's simply untrue to say it's impossible. Warren Buffet in his early years returned 100% until his portfolio grew too much.
>>62156478Here's one such example, retard:https://blog.everstrike.io/the-0-hft-strategy/
>>62155151inb4 she breaks the shelf off the wall in the shower and somebody needs to fix it
>>62153139My little goyims are trying to be entrepreneurs and shit. Cute.
>>62153241Congrats anon, when is the baby due?
>>62157205Thanksgiving. Gets us out of hosting
>>62156852Over a 4 day period?
>>62156547This but unironically, it's all grifters and scammers
>>62158034How much crack do you smoke daily?
